Jul 29 2005, 10:03 PM
So I picked up a first run, red, 174g. Quarter K. But am not able to throw this very well...I got off some good drives, but more than 70% of the throws were unpredictable. That being said, my average drive is about 270 - 300 and my primary drivers are a Champ. Beast and worn in Z Predator, both also 174. Okay, back to the problems I'm having with it...if I don't put enough power into it, it will just fade left, and if I put too much into it, then it dives right and does a cut roller, either way it only makes it about 200 ft. So I'm wondering how much height to get under this thing and how to throw it more consistantly.

bruce_brakel
Jul 29 2005, 11:21 PM
I'm having no problems whatsoever throwing it 20 to 30 feet farther than my other distance drivers. I just throw it for all I got. I'm throwing 165s and they are fairly overstable.

dannyreeves
Jul 30 2005, 12:28 AM
I think your main problem is you are throwing the wrong discs. If you can only throw a max of 300 ft., the Beast, QK and Predator are not the kinds of discs you should be learning with. They are all too fast. Get an few XL's or DX Teebirds and learn them. Once you can throw them well (350ish') you can get some faster discs and get them to do what they do.

Jul 30 2005, 02:46 AM
my whole bag is just stuff I get from different player's packs...I know I should be throwing slower stuff, but just don't own any.

Parkntwoputt
Jul 31 2005, 02:41 AM
There are some course pros who sell discs that also have used boxes. Our course pro trades in 3-1 used discs of similar plastic. Or you can trade a used candy disc for a new DX disc, or at least apply your trade to the value of purchasing a new disc.

I disagree that the speed of the disc is entirely to blame on a matter of control for a beginner. The most important factors are feel and stability. A beginner should NEVER throw a Predator. I do know a lot of beginners who love the Sidewinder, it is a faster longer version of the Leopard. And the player should like the way the disc feels. Some people prefer wide rimmed drivers, others prefer narrow rims. That is just personal even though the wide rimmed drivers go further.

Also, a less stable disc, like the XL that "Roc" said, is actually a fairly straight to understable disc. Throwing understable plastic will help develop the much needed control to throw longer and more precise shots. Especially once the player develops some power and arm speed, the understable disc will require greater control to keep the disc from flipping over. I think the reason that the QK is flipping over when you throw it hard, is because you are dipping your shoulder and/or breaking your wrist when you release, both of these together or seperate will cause the disc to turnover into the ground.

Good discs to start with, now that you have started throwing already are

XL
Teebird
Flash
Sidewinder

Teebird and Flash are the most stable of the 4, but once you get a lot of power behind them you will realize that you will be able to flip them over as well, even with proper mechanics.


BTW, the best place to throw that QK....is away.

Jul 31 2005, 11:43 AM
I've been playing for about 4 years now. I'm ashamed to admit that considering how bad my drives and putts are, but that's a different story. I am pretty sure that I was dipping my shoulder when trying to throw it hard...I played too many rounds during that 24 hour period. I used to throw XLs a lot when I was starting out, but started flipping them over, so I moved to XS's and the same story there, then some local pros told me that I should move to something more stable, and that's why I've been throwing the predator as my main driver ever since. I am most likely going to pick up a teebird in a few weeks and see how that works.

Jul 31 2005, 04:27 PM
Right into the nearest trash can would be how i would do it :)


-Scott Lewis

Jul 31 2005, 08:44 PM
I threw it over a trashcan if that counts for anything :D tossed it to someone who was standing on the other side of the can

circle_2
Aug 02 2005, 01:17 PM
I've only thrown one a few times, but it seemed to fly better/farther with a Roc-type throw...more snap and less speed.
.02

Aug 02 2005, 02:17 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna throw it in a cardboard box and mail it. :D