how can we as disc golfers hope to attract more spectators; and subsequently more money and sponsorships, if some of us can't make a 120' approach shot with the other members of your group standing 70' away from the basket along a treeline (in the shade) albeit slightly in the throwers sightline.

i mean!

Having been warned for being in a person's peripheral vision while putting, yes, you do need to make an attempt.

I actually have problems taking a shot if somone is in my peripheral vision. I have no problems shooting STRAIGHT at the person if they're behind the basket, or between em if they're in front of the basket, but I'm easily distracted from the corners of my eyes. Wearing sunglasses seems to lessen the effect of this.

Anyways, in the spirit of the rules, everyone needs to make an attempt to not be a distraction, up until it's impeding the procession of the game. It's pointless to do laps around the disc catcher because everyone is 5 feet away from the basket and we don't want to distract them. When we're 30 feet away and need to focus on hitting the putt, it'd be nice to not walk past the person and up to our disc on the other side of the basket, even if it's 35 feet away.

As far as gallerys go, I have a 'gallery'/'caddie' with me during every round. She does a great job of staying behind us; being down the fairway, spotting for us; being down the fairway to let us know when the card in front of us is clear; etc. Gallerys like Ball Golf has might be worse than in Ball Golf. In Ball Golf, you focus on the ball and your swing. In Disc Golf, you focus on the target and throw. It's a lot easier for the enviroment or other players to distract a disc golfer than a ball golfer. Because of this, extra care needs to be taken.

Personally it does not matter who or what is in my vision, as long as they are not moving when I am putting. While doing approach shots or drives I can deal with about anything because once I know where the target is I don't look at it until I am done with my follow through anyway.

As far as galleries go. I LOVE THEM! There is no better time to show off your disc golf skills. Two weeks ago at a charity doubles tournament, the local TV Station came by to do some film. The camera man was 20 degrees to my right as I had to throw a 200ft approach shot and landed it 20ft from the basket. Then when I went to make the putt, I decided that a straddle putt would look "cooler" on TV and with him directly behind the basket by about 20-25ft and in my line of vision I proceed to nail the putt.

I guess I am used to spectators from high school sports, in track and cross country at our larger tournaments you would have between 500 and 1000 people, not including other athletes watching you.

But a spectator should be warned, for purposely doing something that distracts a player. And thrown out of the course for doing it a second time.

how can we as disc golfers hope to attract more spectators; and subsequently more money and sponsorships, if some of us can't make a 120' approach shot with the other members of your group standing 70' away from the basket along a treeline (in the shade) albeit slightly in the throwers sightline.

i mean!




801.01 COURTESY
B. Players should take care not to produce any distracting noises or any potential visual distractions for other players who are throwing. Examples of discourteous actions are: shouting, cursing, freestyling, slapping course equipment, throwing out of turn, throwing or kicking golf bags, and advancing on the fairway beyond the away player. Shouting at an appropriate time to warn someone in danger of being struck by a disc is not a violation of courtesy.



So I'd say, yeah, if you are in this guy's group and you are closer to the basket and in his line of site, he can call you on it.

In my experience, it seems to be a common occurence that players advance down the fairway past the away player for a variety of reasons. Most players will do it during a round, in a rush to find an errant drive or even just inadvertantly passing someone's lie. If no one is bothered by it, no big deal. But if someone does ask you to step back or not be in their line of site, by rule they are within their rights.

Having said that, I can't say I disagree with the sentiments here that some people can take it to ridiculous extremes and that some people ought to get used to the idea of spectators or others being in their line of site during a shot. It's something that will not be as easily controlled as the sport continues to grow, so it's something golfers are going to have to adjust to.

--Josh

The away player is in control. If walking to the shade in front of his/her lie is a distraction, you must wait behind the player until after the shot is made. If heat is an issue, ask the away player if they mind if you go to a shady spot while they throw. I know in Texas, we are really liberal in allowing players to find shade if possible (in the old man division), but the away player is the one that decides if it is allowed further down the fairway.

From what i heard, the creator of this thread lacked professionalism about this issue and later mooned the player that asked him to move.

If that is true, and unless mooning is legal in that particular park, that is an 804.05.A(4) violation and eligible for consideration of a DQ and possible suspension. :eek:


(4) Activities which are in violation of the law or park regulation or disc golf course rule,...

I was in this group.

All I have to say is;

It's like school on Saturday, no class.
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I enjoy playing golf with both you guys, but let it go.

Squash it!

If that is true, and unless mooning is legal in that particular park, that is an 804.05.A(4) violation and eligible for consideration of a DQ and possible suspension. :eek:


(4) Activities which are in violation of the law or park regulation or disc golf course rule,...





It was on a college campus

You shouldn't be in front of them anyway. If they ask you to move then you should move. What would you do if Climo asked?

I was a spectator and happened to be directly across from a Pro when he missed about a fifteen foot putt. I got blamed for my umbrella moving. I didn't want to try to rush out of the way and be a distracton. Had the Pro pasused and asked me to move I would have.

I moved when I was asked. No lip from me.

I'd move if anyone asked.

Just don't ask me to move fast.

I once was playing a hole close to a tennis court and this guy misses a 15ftr and he blames the people playin tennis. The wise Jedi JOE WHO asked him very calmly, "Is that as far as you concentration goes?" I believe that applies to a lot of situations.

Ask me to move I will, tell me to move and we will discuss it.

I am usually the guy everyone asks if he is okay because I am always dawdling behind. I try and make a not never to get ahead of anyone in a tournament. In casual rounds, I am all over the place.

If someone asks me to move, fine. If they tell me to move, I might cuss them out in my head, move and then forget the whole thing happened about two seconds later. I think I have Adult Attention Def....Hey is that a butterfly?

I was the one involved in this.

I asked the person to move b/c I was making a jump putt and he was in my line of sight. He gave me lip about this and later on in the round intentionally got in my way when I had a 20 foot putt.

The next round, he was found mooning me while his group was still putting and looking for a disc.

Sounds like a pretty nice guy.

At the 2004 DGLO on the first hole of the final nine Scott Martin was visually distracted on a putt when a PDGA Tour Quite Sign was being waived around. He told the person to hold the sign still before putting then he missed the 15 to 20 foot putt that he normally would have made.

is the head honcho in a pink polo distracting? I remember on the worlds video when C. Todd won, it was priceless Guru walked up to shake Cam's hand or something and Cam totally snuffed him, so he could hug his girl! I wish I still had that video

That would have been very interesting to see that. I know that in PGA events the golfers tell specators to move back because they are too close. I dont understand why you would want to stand 10 feet from someone swinging a club and hitting a ball it has accident written all over it.

From what i heard, the creator of this thread lacked professionalism about this issue and later mooned the player that asked him to move.



the mOOning was completely unrelated to this issue.
it applied to the throwers actions at lunch, which involved his verbally assaulting me from tournament central.

i was also involved in this.
i was not the only one asked to move (there were 5 of us). we moved - he motioned for us to move more - we moved more. he asked us to move more, we moved more (oddly enough into a position where i could not even see MtL take his UPSHOT (jump putt, myass.) - i should have called myself for a courtesy violation for not watching the shot.)

I have no qualms about my actions (other than the bickering at tournament central and the hollering on the course).

and yes, i made a smartass comment or two, but that's just my typical M.O.

What would constitute as being PDGA illegal for a Visual Distraction could someone hire a person to bother a player?

From what i heard, the creator of this thread lacked professionalism about this issue and later mooned the player that asked him to move.



the mOOning was completely unrelated to this issue.
it applied to the throwers actions at lunch, which involved his verbally assaulting me from tournament central.



still unprofessional

plank. if i could, i would mOOn you, right now.

plank. if i could, i would mOOn you, right now.



If you could get someone to pay to see that, it would be professional.

P.S. I'm not sure which of you I'm cracking wise to...possibly both...but it's for the sake of the word play; I don't actually mean offense.

What would constitute as being PDGA illegal for a Visual Distraction could someone hire a person to bother a player?



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