I was wondering what most people were mixing their RIT powder dye or Liquid dye with these days? I know Non Acetone Fingernail polish remover was big last time I checked but I tried that and didn't have much luck at all. Anything else work with this stuff?

There are two options that people prefer. You can either mix it with acetone into a small paste or you can use the liquid stuff and heat it up a bit. It all comes down to what you are comfortable with (some people are a bit weary of using a flammable and toxic chemical).

When you say use the liquid stuff do you mean Liquid RIT? Then just heat it up and go?

Yup. You might also want to heat the disc itself as well but be careful not to melt the plastic. low temp at best. Good luck! :)

Acetone is the worst thing for dying discs if you didn't know that. If you can't figure out how to get bright colors without acetone; keep on searching..... Trust me I have been dying discs for 5 years+ My work speaks for itself.

What about denatured alcohol, has anyone tried that?

Acetone is the worst thing for dying discs if you didn't know that. If you can't figure out how to get bright colors without acetone; keep on searching..... Trust me I have been dying discs for 5 years+ My work speaks for itself.




These guys are looking for instant, and known results. Acetone is instant, and known to work. It's your opinion that its the worst thing to use. It's others 2 cents that it's the best. Who really cares what you use as long as the results are good......like your dyes.

Acetone is the worst thing for dying discs if you didn't know that. If you can't figure out how to get bright colors without acetone; keep on searching..... Trust me I have been dying discs for 5 years+ My work speaks for itself.




These guys are looking for instant, and known results. Acetone is instant, and known to work. It's your opinion that its the worst thing to use. It's others 2 cents that it's the best. Who really cares what you use as long as the results are good......like your dyes.



and seeing as how he didn't list anything else that we can try...

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I would have to agree with Josh though. Acetone, IMO too, also is not a good additive for your dye mix, and I would be careful as to playing with heat too. Not to butt heads with Jeff, but I dont use heat and wouldnt recommend it to others, there is potential for damaging the disc to the point that it wouldnt be usable for tourney use. But if your not using these disc in tourneys, try whatever you want who cares right!!!

Well, let's not mix acetone with fire or respiration. Acetone is NOT a carcinogen. Acetone exposure can be harmful to the brain, lungs and liver.

You can google acetone and msds [a common abbreviation for manufacturer's safety data sheet] together to find out more about acetone safety issues.

http://www.bu.edu/es/labsafety/ESMSDSs/MSAcetone.html#anchor888417

I don't use acetone in my dye mix. I'm doing o.k. maybe:

http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=897&st=140&

Acetone merely speeds up the process. I'm not in a hurry. I have shelf space for 30 discs in my dye room and that is all I need to do 60 discs a week or two before a tournament.

...has anyone ever tried mixing dye pigments with denatured alcohol? I understand it's a powerful solvent, and likely safer than acetone. Here's some tech info from this (http://w3.uwyo.edu/~metal/solvents.html) site:
<font color="red"> Denatured Alcohol: (Denatured Ethanol) This is ethyl alcohol with just enough 'denaturant' to make you violently ill if you try to make a cocktail out of it. Denaturants vary, but the most common one is a few percent methyl alcohol (methanol). I couldn't find a MSDS on the 'denatured' version, so the info below is from the ethanol MSDS. The only major difference should be in toxicity by ingestion, which is the whole point of the denaturant. Ethanol is a fairly mild solvent, and may require more patience and elbow grease than others. On the other hand, it's pretty safe. Water dissolves in it, so you can use it to dry off delicate items that have gotten wet, or have been washed in water first. Ethanol will cleanly remove even the most fossilized protective paper from acrylic plastic (Plexiglass), if you let it soak overnight in a plastic bag.

Acetone: (AKA Methyl Ketone, Propanone, Pyroacetic Ether) The one unique application I know of for acetone is that it dissolves cyanoacrylate glues (SuperGlue). It will attack many plastics.

Toxic by inhalation or ingestion
Irritating to respiratory system and skin
Risk of serious damage to eyes
Attacks liver and kidneys
Flammable, Flashpoint = 1F, -17C
Time Weighted Average exposure limit 200-1000 parts per million (470-2400 mg/M*3) (Varies substantially from country to country) </font>

How about "Orange Oil"?!?

I earmarked that Discontinuum (http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=897&st=0) DISCussion, and plan to get through it all, but I saw something interesting there near the end:

...I finally came up with a dye additive that would do what I want to do. I call it Jelly Dye. It's not really a different direction, just the process that I wanted to do.

...any idea WHAT Jon is talking about there? I would guess it's even move viscous than "paste" consistency, but what would be the advantage?

I earmarked that Discontinuum (http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=897&st=0) DISCussion, and plan to get through it all, but I saw something interesting there near the end:

...I finally came up with a dye additive that would do what I want to do. I call it Jelly Dye. It's not really a different direction, just the process that I wanted to do.

...any idea WHAT Jon is talking about there? I would guess it's even move viscous than "paste" consistency, but what would be the advantage?



It's not really an advantage, it is just a technique. I like to paint the dye with brushes and the thickener I'm using gives a good glide with the brushes. However, I've found that after the dye sits for a few days the thickener seems to encapsulate the dye and I don't get as bright of colors. So, I'm mixing smaller amounts and using them quicker.

Hint about stuff to mix with your dyes:
You need to break the surface tension of the water in the dye in order for the dye to work into the plastic at a molecular level. This is very similar to how washing your clothes works. If you don't put any detergent in the washer then the water has too much surface tension to get into all the molecular sized pockets in your clothes to clean the dirt and stains.

Thanks for the explanation. Does it really make a difference, letting the dye 'cure' for days instead of hours or minutes?

If I get your drift, that's a pretty huge hint. :)

So, you're saying to use liquid soap....

Orange oil will literally chew up the plastic.

I've experimented with a lot of stuff. [Not just in the 70s either!] Forget about orange oil.

I've tried alcohol. All I got was runny dye that smelled funny. Now I add a dash of paprika and cinamon if I want it to be better smelling. :D

Time matters with the dye mix I use.

On TBender's Tony Tiger disc you can see the difference between 24 hours and 48. He is no longer using that avatar but I am at www.discontinuum.org/forums. (http://www.discontinuum.org/forums.) Compare the depth of red of the scarf with the color of the scarf knot. That was the difference btween 48 and 24 hours.

is there any kind of plastic that you can practice on without risking messing up a disc?

is there any kind of plastic that you can practice on without risking messing up a disc?

Last night I was stealing tires off a car because my tires are worn. While I was messing with those annoying plastic wheel covers I wondered if those would dye well. I'm going to check that out next week!

[Note to Diana: Make sure your car has four tires before you take it anywhere. ;)]

I just practiced on old discs in the garage, to other household members' dismay!

"Nix" to alcohols and Orange oil, then.

Just some trivia on stuff disolving: I stored a pair of steel-toed boots with a bottle of "409" cleaner, and it leaked. The outsoles had totally crumbled away; the contact cement was unaffected. :eek:

I am starting to Tie Die some of my older Disc Golf Shirts !!!!!

What are Cool colors ?

"Nix" to alcohols and Orange oil, then.





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