Jul 15 2005, 07:40 PM
Just curious. It came yesterday, and I am looking forward to playing with it, but is it like worth a lot of money or something??

atxdiscgolfer
Jul 15 2005, 07:44 PM
IMO its no bueno, once you throw it you will see.

Jul 15 2005, 07:50 PM
? What ya mean?

Jul 15 2005, 08:13 PM
This may be a slight exaggeration, as I have only thrown someone else's twice, but it will get nicks in it from blades of grass. None the less, I'll probably pick one up soon.

Parkntwoputt
Jul 15 2005, 11:12 PM
I have never thrown one, but I have seen it. One of our local top pros (USDGC top 20) said that it flies like a flat top Champion Beast. Not much farther either, I think he pushed it out near 500ft testing it in Bowling Green.

The guy who owned the one that I saw is friends with the owner of Discwing and the designer of the QK. This guy throws maybe half as fast as I do and has a max distance of just shy of 300ft. He hit a tree with his QK and it warped, permanately. There is now a "bubble" on the flight plate and the rim is all chewed up from "normal wear and tear" after only 2 rounds.

I don't see what the hype was about. The "revolutionary" rounded rim was not what it was hyped up to be, it actually made the disc more uncomfortable to hold then a standard rim. It felt like the disc was going to just fall out of my hand as I could not fully grip it. Oh well, glad I didn't purchase one, kudos to the people who bought it and like it. I will stick with my Champion Orc.

Jul 15 2005, 11:19 PM
I fully agree with the champ. beast comparison, and I also only throw about 300 feet

Jul 16 2005, 12:49 AM
He hit a tree with his QK and it warped, permanately. There is now a "bubble" on the flight plate and the rim is all chewed up from "normal wear and tear" after only 2 rounds.



The first time I ever saw this disc in person was when a friend of mine showed me his only 1 round old one. It had hit a tree and was permanently dented with a huge bubble. Shame that will all the hype it doesn't live up to it.

Plankeye
Jul 16 2005, 01:11 AM
Joe I think Spencer said that it was still overstable as hell though.

gokayaksteven
Jul 16 2005, 01:23 PM
i like the rounded underside, but this disc does not live up to the hype. why is the bottom of the wing not convex like they said it would be? mine is not as fast as the other long drivers, and the plastic feels good, but sux. not even close to revolutionary. if it was of a similar shape but lower profile[faster] with a convex bottom wing it would be interesting.

Jul 16 2005, 10:51 PM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Seems to look alot like all my other drivers, except does seem to be a bit softer, and heavier around the edges. I don't see the convex thing at all. Maybe we are all being duped. I was expecting something different, and I got something the same. I, do , feel duped, and would have rather of spent my $16 on a Champion Archangel, or maybe a XClone. Just MHO.

Jul 16 2005, 10:57 PM
I believe they had to redesign it to meet pdga standards, but not sure....someone correct me on this

Boneman
Jul 17 2005, 02:11 PM
So was all the advertising, and hype about a different disc? And then they put this one out to save there ***** from going broke? Theres something fishy about the whole thing.
At this point ... it's going to take a marketing miracle to sell me any other "NEW, INNOVATIVE" disc designs.

esalazar
Jul 17 2005, 03:33 PM
throw it!!!!

twoputtok
Jul 19 2005, 06:50 PM
in the river! :D

Jul 19 2005, 08:35 PM
How is the disc golf in Tulsa? I went to ORU, and I didn't know about disc golf ten plus years ago. I wish I did, though...

Sep 21 2005, 04:30 AM
From what I understand, they did have to re-design it. And throw the thing if you have it, that is why they are made, to fly not hang on the wall!
Wally
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boru
Sep 21 2005, 11:43 AM
So was all the advertising, and hype about a different disc? And then they put this one out to save there ***** from going broke? Theres something fishy about the whole thing.



There's nothing "fishy" about any of it. These guys put out a new disc that's significantly different from anything else on the market. It's not perfect, but it's an encouraging start.

As for durability, why are you throwing a max-distance driver on holes where you could hit a tree? Especially when you know the plastic is very soft. That's like saying, "I bought this new Dodge Viper, but I'm [I'm a potty-mouth!] because it doesn't handle well in the snow." Use the disc for its intended purpose and you'll be ok. I've thrown my QK exclusively on open holes since it first came out, and have had only minor scuffing of the rim.

The distance comparisons with the Champion Beast seem right on. I don't think the QK necessarily goes any farther than some other discs on the market, but for me, it's way more predictable. There's definitely no other disc I can throw as far on a hyzer.

Moderator005
Sep 21 2005, 11:52 AM
As for durability, why are you throwing a max-distance driver on holes where you could hit a tree? Especially when you know the plastic is very soft. That's like saying, "I bought this new Dodge Viper, but I'm [I'm a potty-mouth!] because it doesn't handle well in the snow." Use the disc for its intended purpose and you'll be ok. I've thrown my QK exclusively on open holes since it first came out, and have had only minor scuffing of the rim.




That hasn't been my experience. When I got my first Quarter K, I threw the disc maybe a dozen times on a wide open baseball field with grass not even an inch long, and the disc took a beating! I threw one particularly poor release with the nose up a bit, and the disc hyzered off sharply. The resulting landing put a nasty scuff on the edge that required sandpaper to remove the plastic burrs; honest to God, this plastic is softer than any DX plastic I've seen in the last ten years. I think the Lightning discs I used to throw in 1995 have tougher plastic than the Quarter K.

It took barely a few weeks of grass-only landings before the disc started turning over BADLY. In my opinion, the Quarter K is going absolutely NOWHERE until a switch to more durable plastic is made.

Sep 21 2005, 12:23 PM
That's like saying, "I bought this new Dodge Viper, but I'm [I'm a potty-mouth!] because it doesn't handle well in the snow."

So if it snows? Take the bus? I try to throw z platic into heavily wooded areas, but sometimes I hit a tree with x plastic.

The reports of players indicate that they get damaged from throwing, not just hitting trees. Some are saying hitting grass dents it. So the analogy should be more like, I bought a new dodge viper and it doesn't handle well pulling out of the driveway.

boru
Sep 21 2005, 02:08 PM
The reports of players indicate that they get damaged from throwing, not just hitting trees. Some are saying hitting grass dents it. So the analogy should be more like, I bought a new dodge viper and it doesn't handle well pulling out of the driveway.



But you don't buy a Viper for the way it backs out of your driveway. Or for anything practical. You buy it because it accelerates like a rocketship. Many people write the Viper off as a terrible car because they don't know how to drive one. The Quarter K is a supercar type disc. Thrown well, in the right situation, it delivers incredible performance.

My QK has stood up to constant use since I got it, which was the first weekend it was released. It's had dozens of hard impacts with the ground, and yes, the edges are scuffed, but nothing that makes it unusable.

What it comes down to is that I like the Quarter K. I can throw it a long ways and I can control it. For some people, the durability is obviously an issue. For me, it's not. I assume I'll lose my QK before I break it.

I encourage people to give this disc a chance. It's a step forward in disc design, and I hope Discwing will keep trying to improve it.

Sep 21 2005, 02:20 PM
Some of us are more prone to the Great Texas Mesquite though. I have thrown it, and it is a good disc, but I have other discs that are similar in z plastic that hold up to trees better.

Sep 21 2005, 03:19 PM
I bought one and tried it and did not like it very much. Its on a rack now with the rest of the retired disc.

Boru, you sound like you work for discwing. :o

WVOmorningwood
Sep 21 2005, 03:37 PM
I use it for a forehand cut roller...the plastic seems to dig in and take off! Who care about the dings? I was told many years ago (by the current roller world record holder ~1/2 mile) that it is the inner rim that matters for rolling. As long as the inner rim is not too badly marred the outer rim's dings don't matter or affect the roll. Now notice I said dings not gashes!

Sep 21 2005, 06:30 PM
I really liked the Quarter K that I found (no name), it got me 3 Wizards in trade :)

(Thanks Matt, hope it's working out for ya)

Sep 21 2005, 06:35 PM
Speaking of dings and dashes. I have an avenger with a big gouge in the outer ring. It always catches in the grass.

It flies great though.

EricJKopit
Sep 21 2005, 06:49 PM
I think this disc sux royally. Hardly anyone throws or likes these up at DeLa either. I bought one, the plastic is crap. Plus, the rounded rim slips right out of my small fingers. Didn't go any further than a Pro Starfire for me either. I turned mine into a thumber that I lost because I didn't care to look for it. I still have a new first run QK (anyone want to trade for it?), but I doubt it will ever be worth anything. I'm actually expecting Discwing to go out of business shortly because of the overhyping (by them) and generally poor reception of the disc (by us).

Apparently they gave these away at a tournament recently around here. Wasn't part of the original player's pack, but the distributor was trying to get rid of them!

-E

Sep 21 2005, 07:09 PM
Anyone out there know if the reception is better in the UK?

rhett
Sep 21 2005, 07:42 PM
All I know is that at the Am Worlds Flymart, just about every table had stacks and stacks and stacks of "First Run" Quarter Ks, so I don't think they are very rare.

Sep 21 2005, 07:46 PM
I think this disc sux royally. Hardly anyone throws or likes these up at DeLa either. I bought one, the plastic is crap. Plus, the rounded rim slips right out of my small fingers. Didn't go any further than a Pro Starfire for me either. I turned mine into a thumber that I lost because I didn't care to look for it. I still have a new first run QK (anyone want to trade for it?), but I doubt it will ever be worth anything. I'm actually expecting Discwing to go out of business shortly because of the overhyping (by them) and generally poor reception of the disc (by us).

Apparently they gave these away at a tournament recently around here. Wasn't part of the original player's pack, but the distributor was trying to get rid of them!

-E



how about a signed barry schulz maseman putter for it

greenbeard
Sep 21 2005, 09:21 PM
I bought one and tried it and did not like it very much. Its on a rack now with the rest of the retired disc.





ditto. I gave it a shot and it simply didn't work for me. It seems to have a bit more distance than my monsters when I throw it tomahawk, but it would never survive long if I threw it often like that. I agree the plastic is junk; I was using it on open holes and it got beat up within five rounds. No thanky. After all the hype, I can honestly say I'm disapointed.

Sep 22 2005, 06:18 AM
The QK does make a good water dish for your dog when you are out playing :D

Sep 22 2005, 10:28 AM
I've tagged a few trees with my QK. No big dents or bends yet. But it is on the soft side so I think it's better suited for wide-open power drives. It's different than what I'm used to (X-Clones, Cylones, TeeBirds) but I've seen some great flights and that's encouraging. Not to mention I scored my first ace with my QK, so now I have a soft spot for it.

But as far as keeping it for future cash-in I wouldn't bother. Not that I have any clue what it could be worth in the future but I don't think selling rare discs is neccessarily the way to riches. But then I suppose it's not a bad business either if you can manage to buy up things when they come out and hang on to them.

Buy one to throw and one to sell.

Sep 22 2005, 01:41 PM
same thing happened to me...mines bubbled up-- useless. Happened on my first round with it too what a waste

Sep 22 2005, 02:04 PM
I don't think they will go out of business. They will sponsor some players, give them free stuff, and the players will help promote their product.

I think the major problem was the over-hyping; otherwise, it wouldn't have been a big deal.

Companies release discs all the time that do not catch on...