I have been messing with my throw a bit to see what I can get out of it. I was wondering which provided the most distance between a flat or hyzer release. Now I know there are tons of things that could throw this off but just a general rule of thumb. I try and always throw flat on a line drive type flight path. Would I increase my distance if I start to hyzer it a bit?
I am currently at 350ft average drive.
hazard
Jul 12 2005, 07:29 PM
In my personal experience a slight hyzer release is EASIER to throw farther because you can throw it with more altitude but still keep from skying it. My personal preference for distance shots, however is a RHFH anhyzer release with a slightly overstable disc, preferably with a light right-to-left quartering tailwind.
discgolfreview
Jul 12 2005, 08:44 PM
have generally found it's easier to throw farther with an angle other than flat, as hazard said.
getting enough air under the disc but still keeping a nose down trajectory can be difficult when throwing flat vs. using the natural lift tendencies of a hyzer flip or the natural nose down left to right flight of an anhyzer.
you may have different results depending upon what discs you throw.
dannyreeves
Jul 12 2005, 11:16 PM
I was a hyzer-flip distance thrower for a really long time but I am getting some better results now when I turn over a slightly overstable disc and let it fight out of it.
I am no Physics major, but it seems like a lot of energy is burned off in the turning process (from the hyzer release, to the turned over position) of the flight. I think that when I release flat or with a slight anhyzer, the disc is already on the angle it will fly for 80% of the flight and thus use more energy in moving forward.
Okay, everyone tell me that I am wrong. ;)
P.S.--Don't confuse this for accurate D. I think if you can get to the target with a hyzer or flat release, you should almost never throw with anhyzer.
Although i have found hyzerflipping a FLippy disc to be an "Easier" way to get distance It doesn't do much for my GOLF D. I find it very hard to control and requires much more planning.
For distance shots in discgolf i either throw Flat or anny with an 11x Teebird. If i get the right movement with my body weight and release the teebird flat i can get it to get a little turn, but not enough to actually have it fade away to the side. It Looks like it's on a flat plane, but it moves to the right.. then it hyzers later on.
If i throw it on an anny then the normal flex happens.
Never really tried to throw just for distance, but i've over thrown 400 foot holes by 50 feet a lot recently on flex shots so i guess i can throw 450 max D.
-Scott Lewis
jeterdawg
Jul 13 2005, 12:46 AM
More D - Anhyzer release. Should be an easy question! That's what all the distance champs have done!
Golf shots? Different question. For the most CONTROLLED D, I have definitely found the hyzer flipping to flat (or VERY slightly turning right) shot to be working recently. I think the Orc has made that a reality for many more people. That's what I use, for about 400+ actual feet (not board feet) throwing BHRH. Keep in mind that's controlled...which to me means alot more than chunking the crap out of it for 450 or 475 with a flippy dx Beast or Valk. I still throw flat when using my Firebirds though. ;)
that's not true
all the distance shots are done with a hyzer flip now..
Back in the day they used to throw huge annylines with xclones and such, but from what i'm away of the Teebird and Valks that were thrown were thrown on a huge hyzerflip.
I just noticed that I totally posted this on the wrong board sorry guys!
So let me make sure I have down exactly what a hyzer flip really is.
If throwing RHBH the disc starts out with this angle "/". Then the disc goes to this "-" then the disc goes to "\" then back to flast then back to hyzer?
If throwing RHBH the disc starts out with this angle "/". Then the disc goes to this "-" then the disc goes to "\" then back to flast then back to hyzer?
Yes, as I understand it, but the part where it goes anhyzer is optional.
paerley
Jul 13 2005, 11:36 AM
If throwing RHBH the disc starts out with this angle "/". Then the disc goes to this "-" then the disc goes to "\" then back to flast then back to hyzer?
Yes, as I understand it, but the part where it goes anhyzer is optional.
It being optional comes later in life..... when you're learning.... It only happens when you don't want it to.