What disks do you like for overhand throws and why? When do you like to use your overhand throw and why? Do you have any special technique or grip for your overhand throw that is uncommon yet helpful?

asimo

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CE/Champion firebird. I use the shot anytime I feel uncomfortable with my backhand throw or when there is excessive trouble (o.b.) around my target area. I grip my overhand with my thumb inside the rim (pretty common). Depending on wind conditions I can get my thumber anywhere from 250-375 ft.

I like to use a 174g champ firebird. It seems to be a lot straighter than the champ beast I had been using. I normally use my thumber on holes that are about 280-300 feet off the tee where I could either hyzer it normally or go over the trees with the overhand. I'll use it anytime I get stuck out in the woods and have a somewhat open canopy where a normal throw or roller would probably catch wood. It's a situational shot for me, but I use it in more situations than most people I play with.

I've found that the heavier the disc the better it seems. If I throw something a bit lighter it doesn't seem to get the same roll in the air and accuracy.

I use a 150g Champion Banshee for long distance tomahawks & thumbers, or a super-beat 147g DX Eagle for any "touchier" overhand shot I want to flip super-quickly & come staight back down. I find I have much better accuracy with a light disc.

Use a Monster or Firebird.

You can view the hook thumb grip for overhand throws here:

Specialty Grips from Innova Website (http://www.innovadiscs.com/tips/davesgripsmain.html#specialty)

Which is better for distance, the thumber or the standard tomahawk?

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Does anyone use thier overhand throw as thier primary drive?

IMO champion firebirds are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots

Dave Vincent throws a Monster. Works great for him.

IMO champion firebirds are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots


IMO champion monsters are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots

IMO champion firebirds are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots


IMO champion monsters are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots



....okay they both are great. :D

IMO champion firebirds are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots


IMO champion monsters are by far the best for overhand or sidearm shots



IMO Champion Banshees are the best.

so, would I be correct in assuming that we can all agree on using a overstable driver for our overhand throws?

I find for a hammer I always throw my 168 Z plastic Crush, that Z plastic is nearly invunerable to damage and i have yet to warp the disc, which was the problem when i started throwing hammers (I learned the throw on a DX firebird and it was screwed up after about a week of play).

The thumber is my primary tee shot, I use a Candy TeeBird as well as a Candy FireBird. The TeeBird is more consistent for me as the FireBird turns over slower, but it gets a little more distance.

I use a puple first run Z-crush nicknamed "Corky" because it is so understable it corkscrews beautifully fast.

Throw the overhand pancake shot.

so, would I be correct in assuming that we can all agree on using a overstable driver for our overhand throws?



Anything fast and overstable works...I used to use Banshees...then switched to Illusions, but now my shoulder hurts throwing overhand, so I'm left without that shot...but have since mastered a nice grenade shot, so I'll be alright.

Sorry to hijack this into a technique question, but can you enlighten me on the grenade shot? After just a few thumbers I'm left with a very sore shoulder for the rest of the round.

Think of a softball pitch. Underhand with backspin. Lands on end and stops in spot, maybe pulling back a little. But a very low risk of running away from ya.

I used to be quite effective with that shot in the woods on short distances just haven't used it recently enough to remember until you said something about it :D

Champ. Firebird.

But I think a Champ. Orc fllies pretty much the same. I picked up an Orc to try as a BH driver, but didn't like it so I started using it for sidearms and thumbers. When I lost the Orc I decided to take the standard advice and go to a more stable disc for these types of shots. There wasn't a big difference between the two for me.

-D

There is a major difference between an Orc and a Firebird for overhand shots.

What is the difference?

The same as if you threw them backhand...One is stable, the other is overstable. Try it for yourself, just make sure you have an idea of how to throw a thumber/tomahawk :cool:

I have been throwing the normal tomahawk, is the thumber better?

The thumber is more accurate for most people, and usually more consistent.

I should have clarified. In general the Orc is a less stable disc than the Firebird. A new Champion Orc, however, flies pretty overstable at low speeds. Even on a BH throw Champ. Orcs are more stable for me than TeeBirds.

My overhand shots are typically traveling much slower than my BH shots so the Orc behaved almost the same as the overstable Firebird.

I definitely wouldn't compare a DX Orc to a Firebird - these disc will fly very differently with an overhand throw.

For a dedicated overhand / sidearm disc DVINCENT is right; the Orc is probably not a good choice. I was just making an observation based on my own experimentation.

-D

for distance, nothing hammers farther than an Epic. It is not good for thumbers or corkscrews. Since it does the extra half turn it is worse in the wind. But for raw distance it beats the firebird or any regular disc. I can hammer a firebird 300 on a good throw but the Epic is 400+.

I was about to say the same thing...although for me I find the epic to finish to the left where my thumber finishes to the right. Which is actually kinda nice as it gives me more options for throwing thumbers...

When you throw your epic which way do you bend it?

ink of a softball pitch. Underhand with backspin. Lands on end and stops in spot, maybe pulling back a little. But a very low risk of running away from ya.



Some people may also call it a Scooby Those California people can be real weird sometimes :D

What disks do you like for overhand throws and why? When do you like to use your overhand throw and why? Do you have any special technique or grip for your overhand throw that is uncommon yet helpful?

asimo

Champion Firebirds.....Grip...Thumb on inside of rim, and first digit of the Index finger wrapped around the edge of the disc.
Hope this helps.
Schweb

When you throw your epic which way do you bend it?

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i keep it flat. some of my old epics that are more domey keep flipping and end up to the same side as a regular discs' hammer/thunber but after doing two full corksrews.