Lately, I have had nose-up disc issues. I am sure that noone on this board has ever struggled with nose up throws since everyone is turning over monsters and throwing 600 feet. :DBut, maybe somebody out there has helped a friend who throws nose up.

I have tried moving the thumb of my throwing hand to be more on the rim as opposed to in the middle of the disc. That seems to help for the most part, but sometimes when I try and drive the nose of my disc sticks up.

I have looked to the Blake website before, but I figured I would pose the question to all to see what practice routines have worked for you all.

alex

Well, i was going to recommend moving the thumb closer to the rim, but it sounds like you already knew that. My next suggestion would be try releasing the disc dead flat. Really concentrate on FLAT....6 feet off of the ground.

I think once you remind yourself what a flat release "feels" like, then you'll see that you can manipulate the angles of attack again.

with your arm extended forward, hold the disc so that it is flat (parallel with the earth). now kinda move your wrist like your are flicking a fishing pole. setting your wrist in the forward-most position of the fishing motion will eliminate your snooty disc problem.

I've had problems with this, and still have to consiously fight it.

I've found that it's not always the orientation of the disc when I get the nose up. It's usually my footwork, and when I throw I have my plant foot way out front, and my weight behind my front foot. Go over your throws in your mind, and make sure that your weight is on top, or in front, of your front foot. If your weight is behind your front foot, then a flat shoulder rotation will send the disc upwards.

As for the grip issues. I correct the grip before I throw. I walk to the front of the pad, and hold out the disc like it will be when it leaves. Then I look at it, closely. I then pull the disc loose from my palm, lift the outside edge to perfect the hyzer/anhyzer angle... twist it up or down to correct the nose angle... then I check the amount of wrist bend I want. When it's perfect, I grip it back to my palm, go to the back of the pad, and rip it down the fairway. It only takes a second or two, and I am then sure that the angles are right for the line I want.

I came to disc golf with an Ultimate background where you can throw nose up without problem. Golf drivers are designed with lift so you want the nose down. I found I had to learn to stop bending at the waist when i threw and instead stand up straight. Second, I learned to throw higher up (armpit high) and throw more of a line drive type throw. Third, like sandalman says i had to learn to hold the disc so it would fly nose down. the way i'd explain it is hold your hand like you would for a handshake, and then rotate your hand/wrist downwards and hold that angle. in really simple terms keep the back edge of the disc higher than the front edge at the time of release. the position of the disc at the time of the hit is key.

the most common reasons i see people throwing nose up has to do with the height their arm comes across their body as well as where their weight is during the throw.

make sure your arm starts somewhere around nipple high and finishes somewhere around nipple high... don't let your arm swoop down and up or do anything wacky. keep your throw on the same plane all the way across your body. when i throw flat low line drives i start the disc about shoulder high on my reachback and finish just below my nipples at my release point... we're all a little different with the specifics of this but you must throw from somewhere between the top of your stomach and your head to have success with golf discs. for flat shots, things need to be right around your chest.

i like to imagine i'm almost falling or floating off in the direction of a throw as i release a disc. i even do this when i putt, and i especially do it when i'm trying to drive and keep the disc low. it keeps your weight's momentum in line with where you're going. have a smooth follow through that allows your momentum to continue in the direction the disc is already going.

as for a drill to work on? you just need to get a lot of throws in to start shaping new habits. play catch or throw a bunch in a field. throw with an appropriate amount of strength to really monitor your form. experiment and see what you can do based on what people are telling you here to control your nose angles.

I notice a lot of comments about getting your weight in front of your plant foot around the boards. I came from an ultimate background(played midfield and threw off) and I don't seem to do this. I have thrown a few 400 footers, but mostly the 300-350 range is a long drive for me. When I do get my weight over my front foot, I can really rip the disc, but hardly get it off the ground. I threw my Avenger 350 at like 6 feet. Keep in mind, that is a 0 accuracy shot for me. Is it THAT big of a point to get the weight shifted forward? Should I try to get my form adjusted to this style so I can really get the disc out there on those 700 foot wide upen holes?

as for getting the weight forward... it is very important to have your center of gravity over the pivot foot if you are trying to throw a flat, nose down shot.

as for people's comments about pull line and where to start the pull... it's more about making sure you don't dip immediately before the release. sometimes i find it's easier to teach people to start with a lower reach back as throwing towards the top of the disc can sometimes make it a little easier to get the nose down, as long as there is no dip/sweep during the pull.

imo, it's more about good disc orientation and wrist down positioning, pulling through the shot.

as for getting the weight forward... it is very important to have your center of gravity over the pivot foot if you are trying to throw a flat, nose down shot.

as for people's comments about pull line and where to start the pull... it's more about making sure you don't dip immediately before the release. sometimes i find it's easier to teach people to start with a lower reach back as throwing towards the top of the disc can sometimes make it a little easier to get the nose down, as long as there is no dip/sweep during the pull.

imo, it's more about good disc orientation and wrist down positioning, pulling through the shot.



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I too have this nose up thing going on! I hate it as much as a fat shot in ball golf! The wrist down thing is a good habit to get into. When tring to throw far and harder your wrist will do what ever it wants to do due to the extra effort on distance. I think the pull it across your nipples thing is probably the best fix. Also after a few rounds you will get tired and my arm will start to drop.... therefroe the nose goes up on the pull through. This is something I have to spend a lot of consentration on when I throw and I still throw nose up; but not as often. I too wish I could find a fix!

When I start getting the nose up on my throws I find it really helps to make sure I get my arm and shoulder into throwing position before I even start my run up. I'm usually good about it when I start for the day, but when I start getting a little tired I really have to concentrate on it.

if you arm is getting tired after a round or two your problem might be that you are trying to muscle your shots and will always have some time of problem due to a locked wrist/stiff arm muscles/etc.

Maybe it's because i'm young(21), but i have gone out a few times and played 7-10 rounds and my arm never felt tired.. IF it wasn't dark i would have played more. the only thing that got tired were my legs from all the walking.

keep the nose down by being also being fluid in your swing. If you try to muscle any part you will always have inconsitencies.
and remember to get your body weight forward. Watch Climo and Brad Hammock and pete Middle camp throw. they are perfect examples.

-Scott Lewis

if you arm is getting tired after a round or two your problem might be that you are trying to muscle your shots and will always have some time of problem due to a locked wrist/stiff arm muscles/etc.

Maybe it's because i'm young(21), but i have gone out a few times and played 7-10 rounds and my arm never felt tired.. IF it wasn't dark i would have played more. the only thing that got tired were my legs from all the walking.

keep the nose down by being also being fluid in your swing. If you try to muscle any part you will always have inconsitencies.
and remember to get your body weight forward. Watch Climo and Brad Hammock and pete Middle camp throw. they are perfect examples.

-Scott Lewis



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Why do you ask questions that you know the answer to?


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