Jun 19 2005, 02:45 AM
Does anyone think that Innova Champion discs break in... or do they stay consistent for their entire life?

Jun 19 2005, 04:58 AM
Every disc will eventually break in.

Parkntwoputt
Jun 19 2005, 11:16 AM
Does anyone think that Innova Champion discs break in... or do they stay consistent for their entire life?



If the discs never broke in and stayed the same forever, disc manufacturers would have a difficult time staying in business.

Personally I throw everything new except for three discs which I like to keep a beat up one in my bag in addition to new ones, these are the Champion Leopard for rollers or sick turnover shots, Champion Teebird (11x) for the tight S-curve, and a Z-Buzzz, which by the way is the best turnover midrange out there once it gets beat up.

But the Champion/Z and other top quality plastic is well worth the extra you $ pay over the regular plastic. Figure it is twice as much to last 3 times as long.

Jun 20 2005, 02:40 AM
nothing beats a good broken in disc. I carry a lot of "beat up" discs. Two putters, a roc, an orc and a beast. I actually get max distance with the orc because it is beat up enough to turnover slightly and hold the line. Beat up putters can be good in the wind, as they will fly a little slower and sometimes grab the chains better. The only downside to beat up discs is that they are not as predictable as new ones.

discgolfreview
Jun 20 2005, 04:58 AM
from my experiences and the experiences of my buddies, it seems to take about 2 years of throwing a champ/z disc if it is a rotational driver and about 6-12 months of throwing it if you throw it nearly exclusively for the disc to become "seasoned" in the way most dx discs hold for the majority of their lifespan. these timeframes should probably be adjusted lower for players who play 30+ rounds a week or are prone to hit the first tree off the teepad... followed by the second tree... then the third tree... and so on.

you could say they are always "consistent" in that their characteristics will never have an abrupt, drastic change (although this rarely happens with discs in any plastic unless you put them point blank directly into a tree).

the thing people seem to forget is that broken in discs fly farther than new ones since they fade later in their flight. with most discs, the % through the flight where the disc begins to fade will change before the turn resistance changes. also of note, the "broken in" phase of a disc's life is much longer than the "new" phase of a disc's life in any plastic.

a lot of the age characteristics depend a lot on the mold as some discs will wear (flight-wise) better than others. i.e. i love broken in dx rocs (i hate newer ones except for hyzers/very strong headwinds) and i find it takes me about a 1.5 years to take it from "broken in to where i like it" to "so broken in i can't control it on straight shots." oddly enough, it takes me an entire season or longer to break a roc in to where i like it.