Which of these Disc fly the farthest. Also if I left one out that you think flys farther post it.

For me it's a coin toss b/t the Pro Starfire and DX Orc.

For me it's a coin toss b/t the Pro Starfire and DX Orc.



I concur. DX orc should definately be on your list there pal.

what about the orion!! cfr starfire!!

Champion Viking flies farther than any of those discs for me.

what about the orion!! cfr starfire!!



A new Orion would top the board, for about a week. If its distance and longevity itd be Champion Orc.

You forgot the Avenger. It get's my vote.

PT Woods
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DX Orc...

Nothing is better. I voted for the DX Beast because it is a close second.

I say the DX beast but the Illusion is close. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

hey matt, how about those purple DX orcs??? :D

After I threw it into the building across from downings it was understable. :DI wazs the only one to get a putter over 150g wizard. :D

AVENGER.
i've only thrown it twice so far and have thrown my furthest drive with it even when it slipped out of my hand.

-Scott Lewis

Downwind and no wind - Beast

Some Headwind - Orc

For me it's a coin toss b/t the Pro Starfire and DX Orc.



I think answers to this question will vary widely based on arm power. Discs that fly far for average throwers may be easily overpowered by big arms. I love the Pro Starfire, but I imagine this disc is way too flippy for big guns.

Similarly, my personal experience was that I was flipping a brand new DX Orc over into a cut roller the second time I threw it.

for me the X-crush flew further than anything else I've thrown so far. And I just picked up a couple of avengers, so we will see.

I understand different discs fly father for different people but come on, the Pro Starfire is the farthest flying disc ever made.

P.S. Havent seen the Avengers yet.

You are right about the Pro Starfire, It is the furthest flying disc by innova produced.


This past weekend, at a distance comp. The winner threw well over 550. I don't remember the final distance, but it was a Pro Starfire. IJAR is Mos' Def' a big gun.

Yes, but even with these newer discs has anyone logged a longer flight than the distance record holder, the Valkyrie or the second holder the Teebird?

This might be an anomaly, but my longest throws have been with new ProLine TeeBird TL�s. I do not have a big arm (310-320� consistently � and that�s not message board D. It is real distance on the local high school practice football field). I bust Orc�s, Beasts, Sidewinders (have not gotten a Starfire yet) about 360� every so often.

But with a Proline TL I have busted a couple from the back of one endzone 30� out of the back of the other endzone (390�). I have to get hold of it just right to do that, otherwise they fly as far as all my other drivers. My theory is that the TL has very little low speed fade. So, while other discs are dive-bombing the last 30-50� of the flight, the TL is gliding and will therefore get an additional 30-50� of D.

ProLine TL's get flippy very fast (and come out of the box probably too flippy for bigger arms than mine). But they become very valuable turn-over dics - like a longer version of a beat DX Roc. They also make good rollers I hear (I have not mastered rollers yet).

I throw a Z-Crush, Pro Starfire and Z-Flash for distance. It is a tossup what disc will go the farthest for me. They will cover everything I need in any wind condition for long D. Downwind, the Starfire probably will go the farthest because it has more dome and therefore more glide. Left to right wind, the Flash. Right to left and headwind the Z-Crush.

oh yeah i ve seen coda standing 200 ft from the pond at n.e. lions here in norman and crush one and almost get it acroos and that has to be a 600+ shot maybe closer to 700

Pro Starfire for me ... but, I've been getting the Millenium Orion WAY out there.

my vote would have to go for none of the discs on the list. unless of course you'd like to add the E-Spirit from gateway.

I love being the only one to vote for the Elite XL. :D

I tend to throw the XL just as far as my Champ Orc when it comes to golf shots. I think it's because I am comfortable with the mold, and the shot is invariably smoother as a result.

E Spirit thankyou.

Pro Starfire actually got me excited. It just keeps flying. Flying farther than any other disc I've thrown. Pro Orc, which I hear is being discontinued, has potential, but is harder to be consistent with. Orion is super-consistent, but might not be as long.

But really, it depends on your own personal armspeed and delivery style. No one disc will be farthest for every player.

Predator

Pro Starfire and the Pro Orc, if you've thrown this discs properly then you KNOW they are where it's at. :cool:

E Spirit thankyou.



I vote a tie between "E" Spirit and "H" Illusion.

Also , depends on who is throwing them.

Example : I can throw an ORC 440.

Ken Jarvis can throw an ORC 740.

Maybe further. A clear difference of 300 feet !!!!!!! :eek:

The DX Beast is currently the preeminent distance disc for me, although I haven�t thrown the Starfire enough to accurately ascertain an opinion of it.

For me it's a coin toss b/t the Pro Starfire and DX Orc.



I think answers to this question will vary widely based on arm power. Discs that fly far for average throwers may be easily overpowered by big arms. I love the Pro Starfire, but I imagine this disc is way too flippy for big guns.

Similarly, my personal experience was that I was flipping a brand new DX Orc over into a cut roller the second time I threw it.



you might want to re-think that premise about power and flip. The world record holder threw a DX Valkyrie in the mid 160's over 800 feet. It was air distance -- not a roller.

If you have a lot of power and poor technique you will flip discs like Starfires and Orcs. Overstable plastic can be a crutch. Think of the early 1980's when the discs were lids and look how far "big arms" threw those things (without flipping them)...

I like the Pro Orc, but -- alas -- it seems to be a dying breed... :( I like the Pro Orc because I can torque the crap out of it and it will flip, but it always fades back for me at the end. Pro Starfires seem less forgiving for off axis torque -- they just keep flippin... which has its uses too ... :D

For me it's a coin toss b/t the Pro Starfire and DX Orc.



I think answers to this question will vary widely based on arm power. Discs that fly far for average throwers may be easily overpowered by big arms. I love the Pro Starfire, but I imagine this disc is way too flippy for big guns.

Similarly, my personal experience was that I was flipping a brand new DX Orc over into a cut roller the second time I threw it.



you might want to re-think that premise about power and flip. The world record holder threw a DX Valkyrie in the mid 160's over 800 feet. It was air distance -- not a roller.

If you have a lot of power and poor technique you will flip discs like Starfires and Orcs. Overstable plastic can be a crutch. Think of the early 1980's when the discs were lids and look how far "big arms" threw those things (without flipping them)...



The DX Valkyrie was thrown in a distance contest, not out on the golf course. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I don't want to mess around with throwing with hyzer and at differing release points and height in order to work a disc to achieve maximum distance. I want to be able to release it flat, at the same angle, and the same height to get increased distance, but also achieve some measure of accuracy from these normally touchy distance discs.

I think most big guns agree with the same premise. They'll want to throw for distance but with some degree of predictibility as well. Could they achieve extra distance by throwing a flippy DX Orc with a ton of hyzer in the release angle and a release point several feet higher than normal? Possibly. But they'll also get their share of cut rollers and poor shots. Bottom line is that it sure is a lot easier and more accurate to just throw a disc flat.

Right, I'm not suggesting a 164g DX Valkyrie should be the go-to driver of guys with big arms. However if the only thing you can throw hard predictably is overstable plastic, some work on technique may be in order.

Doesn't Barry throw the Beast as his go-to driver (accurately enough to win a few championships) and doesn't big-arm Schweb like the Orc? Of course both carry overstable stuff like the Firebird, for certain shots and conditions...

My Z-Crush is going so far. I threw it over 500' this evening on flat ground with a 5-8mph. cross wind. Then I took my backup and put it about 6 ft. away from the 1st.

I marked the spot and am going to measure it tomorrow with the wheel.

I have always been one to go for accurate golf D. Low line flat shot that turns over very little with minimal fade at the end.

But lately I have been taking the Crushes and getting the really high anhyzers with nose down. That is definetly the way these were meant to fly. I do have a really overstable run. My yellow one is a pig. I can throw it into most headwinds flat and it won't flip. Not a shot I get throw a lot on the course but it is a ton of fun.

Just figured I would share. This shot is definetly easier with an overstable disc than a Pro Starfire because it cuts back hard at the end (giving it extra lift).

which is it now for the avg. golfer--pro wraith, quarter k, new beast, h illusion, x-avenger? i would be interested to try a new mold beast in dx plastic. the s-illusion and d-venom would be in there if they had a little more dome imo. for me--the x-avenger and quarter k have been out there with my older-mold dx beast, but both seem more managable.

Not one mention of the flash yet? I'd personally pick this one. Get one about 168 g, rip it flat with no wind and watch it glide forever. My other huge D disc is the pro orc. This disc is just perfect in every regard. Why innova decided to discontinue it is a mystery to me.

I watched a guy throw a roller with a d venom yesterday and it went **** near 480 feet.

My other huge D disc is the pro orc. This disc is just perfect in every regard. Why innova decided to discontinue it is a mystery to me.



The difference in stability and durability between the pro and the champ orc is just ridiculous. When they (Innova & friends) field tested the pro version they should have named it something else. I'm not trying to criticize your favorite disc but having a disc so unstable bearing the orc moniker is misleading.
I admit I liked the pro orc for awhile also, about two rounds. It just got to a point I couldn't put enough hyzer angle on it to counteract its flippiness. It does have fantastic glide so I could use it if there were significant tailwind. I could also use it for uphill turnovers.
I wouldn't be surprised if they tweaked it a bit and them reissued it with a different name.

I watched a guy throw a roller with a d venom yesterday and it went **** near 480 feet.



A 480' roller isn't that impressive.

Yeah I threw over 480' at worlds. :D

A 480' roller is roughly equivalent to a 375-400' airshot.

there is a big difference between the 1st run pro orc and a 2nd run....

I had a few first runs that were rollers after they hit the first tree. They all long gone.

My second run more durable pro orcs are great. I have not had any problem with them flipping or being inconsistent. I actually lost my first one the other day as it hyzered off into deep woods. I think everyone who puts the pro orc down was throwing the first runs. The second runs are made out of the same plastic that innova still uses for the pro starfires, firebirds, the wraith, etc.

btw, the pro orc is the longest for me.

Yeah I threw over 480' at worlds. :D



I threw 570ft. at Okie states last weekend.... :p

Yeah I threw over 480' at worlds. :D



I threw 570ft. at Okie states last weekend.... :p



That's nothing for a stud like you. Did you throw your Glide? :D

Yeah I threw over 480' at worlds. :D



I threw 570ft. at Okie states last weekend.... :p



I said I threw over but I never said how far so maybe I outdrove your 570' :o:o

I said I threw over but I never said how far so maybe I outdrove your 570' :o:o



But you didnt :eek:

I said I threw over but I never said how far so maybe I outdrove your 570' :o:o



But you didnt :eek:


Actually I threw well over 570' at worlds

Actually I threw well over 570' at worlds



Maybe downhill at Snowbowl :eek:

Ok, I must be throwing hte starfire wrong, because the thing only goes as far as my Beast or Teebird... Each has it's own unique flight characteristics, but it doesn't have the velicoty & stability that I like, I think... Any tips? Does the Starfire require more snap/rpm's?

Ok, I must be throwing hte starfire wrong, because the thing only goes as far as my Beast or Teebird... Each has it's own unique flight characteristics, but it doesn't have the velicoty & stability that I like, I think... Any tips? Does the Starfire require more snap/rpm's?



From my experiences, the Starfire does take more snap than the Teebird and Beast. You have to throw it at a greater speed than those 2 to get the best results. So far I have not been able to accomplish this yet. I have a pro starfire but I can throw a Sidewinder and Beast farther. I am still trying to work on my form to keep the nose down also. It seems the Starfire is very sensative to the angle of the nose.

I agree that the Starfire is nose sensitive. But, I can throw my Pro Starfire with the nose up and it still gets out far before it fades out. I don't purposefully throw it nose up, but hey, sometimes it happens.

I think the Starfire is too hard for me to personally control right now. Sometimes I think I am throwing it with some anhyzer and it still ends up flat with a hard hook. Sometimes I think I am throwing it slightly hyzered and it ends up flipping to flat. I haven't thrown it much, but I think that it will eventually become my wide open distance driver. It does go far when I throw it properly. Maybe it will beat in a little bit and become more controllable.