I have been experimenting with some new drivers which include: X-XS, Pro Orc, Pro Starfire, Champion Sidewinder. I can through all these disc great. I through the Sidewinder the farthest at around 350-375ft on average with my longest being 445ft. That is being messured on flat surface. I can get the Pro Orc and Pro Starfire about 10-20 feet behind the Sidewinder.

Now my question is I can't throw my new Z-Flash 250ft. Its 168g disc and has no flaws. It flys like a Champion Monster for me. I can start it off with a hard Anhyzer and it will just crank right back over to a HUGE overstable left hook. I turnover my Starfire and Sidewinder quite a bit when i crank them and even my orc sometimes. But this disc just isn't working for me. Anyone have any advice on what angle and trajectory to throw this disc on?

the flash is really understable if thrown at high speeds. like a beast. try realseing it with more anhyzer if ur finding thats its soo overstable.. If ur throwing ur stafires far i dont see why u cant throw the flash, the starfire is more overstable then the flash. so u may possibly gotten some sorta freak discs. also what colour is ur flash. as diff colours have diff stabilty.

Sounds like he has a great one! I like the stable one's.

I have been experimenting with some new drivers which include: X-XS, Pro Orc, Pro Starfire, Champion Sidewinder. I can through all these disc great. I through the Sidewinder the farthest at around 350-375ft on average with my longest being 445ft. That is being messured on flat surface. I can get the Pro Orc and Pro Starfire about 10-20 feet behind the Sidewinder.

Now my question is I can't throw my new Z-Flash 250ft. Its 168g disc and has no flaws. It flys like a Champion Monster for me. I can start it off with a hard Anhyzer and it will just crank right back over to a HUGE overstable left hook. I turnover my Starfire and Sidewinder quite a bit when i crank them and even my orc sometimes. But this disc just isn't working for me. Anyone have any advice on what angle and trajectory to throw this disc on?



Is it Orange by any chance?

or yellow?

or first run?

Clear Blue actually :)

I can truly torque this one with a strong Anhyzer and it will come right back to hyzer. It seems very odd. Its not been beat at all. No scratches nothing. I can completly flip a Sidewinder into a roller if i need to so I don't think its a noodle arm instance but I could be wrong.

Looks like this with white stamp and blue color.

http://www.golfdisc.net/grafik/flash.jpg

I've got a new Z-Flash and had the same exact problem.
I've noticed though, as I keep using it, it seems to get better. Also, I really have to make sure to keep the nose down. If the nose gets up at all, it falls super hard to the left. But, if I keep it kind of low, and the nose down, it flies alot like my Champ Orc.

I have 2 flashs in my bag.

A green 166 gram that I've been throwing about 4 months. I can hyzer flip that into a huge S somehow. it's great for shots that need to go a ways, then fade right, and still come back(so no side arm). My only problem with it is ANY head wind and the disc is a roller.

My other is a 170 gram that I've had for a week. It's still in the break in stage, so it throws a bit like a warn QJLS right now. MIGHT get a little turn over out of it, but generally it flys straight for about 300 feet with a hard fall to the left(I havn't tried a full approach with it yet).