Hey this is Steve, Samuel Crawford Park is approved. I am usually out there every evening from 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm working alone, it's been fun, but alot of work. I hope you golfers out there really know what's going on & join up with the Crawford Club, registered as a non-profit organization. Any questions or volunteers, please e-mail or call me @ (972) 681-5145.

i'm there to help. man steve wallace on the discussion board :eek: what's the world coming to. :D

I can't wait to see what that rough piece of land turns into. It will surely turn into a jewel with all the time people are pledging. Make it happen.

Steve, thanks for the 2nd message. I did not get it until a few minuets ago (got home from work at 12:30 and went back this morning at 7:30 and just got home to pack and drive to Tenn)

Don't worry about it, I will get over it (my wife already erased it so I can't even hear it again)

I know you are putting yourself under a lot of pressure to get this course in, don't worry, we will help you.

I will be back in Texas next Thursday night, but work all weekend. I will try to make it out there one night or weekend day next week, I can get your phone number here.

BTW, we made 263 pizzas this morning (over $1500 in sales :D)

Well I have to get out of here, already an hour behind schedule. Just wanted to answer your message.

who cares how many pizzas you sold goober. :p

Shut up Frank, I called the store last night before leaving cell phone areas, and we had our best Thursday ever. So shut your pie hole, I need good sales so I can afford to take time off to help build Samuel Crawford and donate $$$$ if it is needed :p

I dont care one bite

now who asked you, and what are you doing on a Dallas Thread :cool:

Pie hole - pizza guy...that works :D

Steve - just give us a weekend coming up and a time in the morning and we can get alot of people out there with the needed tools and muscles (expect Pinkie :D)

i kinda like that to. :D

Wednesday afternoon we will be out again.

For all of those not going to Waco this weekend, Please try to make it out Sunday. We are really not that far from being to set the 9 baskets on the lower course. 3-4 big crew work days, and all that will remain is getting the weeds mowed.

The back 9 should only take a few big work days since the underbrush is generally less dense up top.

i'm there

An update. Sounds like Frank and Steve will be out there Wednesday, but I will not be able to make it. Something unavoidale has come up.

i'll be running a little late but i'll be there.

All things disc golf (well except reading the board) are out for me for at least 2/3 more weeks. New manager is not quite ready yet to handle evening shifts.

well i've got good news and bad news. :p bad news is tonights work day was a dismal showing. it was steve and myself and steve's friend rusty who is not even a disc golfer.

the good news is hole 1 is planted, concrete and all in the ground. it's there i help put it there myself. :Dthis is a really good hole. 350 to 380 ft.straight ahead the basket is on a slope but you can see it from the box. kinda of a tunnel shot.

doh!!!! i forgot to mention the workday for sunday. if you can spare a couple of hours come on out and pitch in. this course is not far from being in.

you guys always seem to schedule these days when I have to work not fair.

that's alright you get your baskets back that rightfully belong to you that ddg is holding hostage, and you'll have done your share.

Let us know when you can make it, and we'll schedule one then. :cool:

how about thursday or friday this week I finally get some time off and away from the lady? :D

Thursday will work for me. I'll check with Steve today.

let me know what I need to bring :D

This is Steve Wallace. There were some inappropriate comments made and actions taken by members of the DDGA today at the Wednesday Mini at BB. There appears to be some reluctance in the club to support the use of the EBR baskets to install the Samuel Crawford course as quickly as possible. I will continue to work at S. Crawford park on a daily basis to get it prepared for baskets, and work with the DDGA to obtain permission to install whatever baskets are available as soon as the sleeves are ready.

DDGA needs to give up the baskets they ripped out of the ground from Elgin B two years ago & put in storage. They are the property of the Parks & Recreations. When Crawford was approved, we were told Flagpole Hill was denied. So what's the hold up? Don't tell me to shut-up, I want those baskets in the ground as soon as possible and so does the Parks & Recreations at Samuel Crawford Park. If people really want a nice park to play now, lets hear about it. Thank you, Saw.

Troy, all you will need to bring is some muscle and plenty of water. I've got gloves and tools.

Any information on the current status of the EBR baskets you can get would be of use also. The last thing I heard was that they were available for installation in S. Crawford. Do we need to start raising funds for baskets ?

All, I spoke to Dirk this weekend and we agreed that if we don't get anything positive on FlagPole by July 4 the baskets go to Crawford.

I wish I lived on the B.B. side of town so that I could help add a positive function/image for Dallas Disc Golf. I put a tremendous amount of time, effort, blood and money into the club, mini's, newsletter, book keeping, city meetings and both courses. I hate to see the club being bashed even if I am not directly involved anymore.

There really is no need for negativity here. Dirk and I love the idea of a park going into Crawford, but keep in mind that, with our limited time due to jobs, we have been working for FlagPole Hill a couple of years now and at a time earlier this year it looked like it would happen soon. So, it was a little difficult to let go of the baskets.
We should be finding out in the next couple of weeks a yes/no on FlagPole.

Do we need to start raising funds for baskets ?



What type of baskets?

The question really is if we got baskets from a company that gives a discount the more you get. That means we could order baskets as the money becomes available.

Thanks for the information Danny. I know how difficult it is to let it something like that go. I guess that's the cause for tensions right now. Both sides of this have been working at getting a course in for several years and neither side wants to see a course sitting there with no baskets.

I don't want to see any course that is approved sitting empty. We need to have a show of support for S. Crawford to convince the parks department that it was a good decision to approve the course and that there is adequate support in the area for a course to be a viable use of the property.

The course can be ready for baskets by July with just a few good workdays. I'll be out around 6:00 PM Wednesday and Thursday, and Sunday morning around 9:00 AM.

let's just hope they don't hear about the skirmish at b.b, or both courses may just disappear.

Thanks to Scott Grimes & Curry North, a lot was accomplished out at Crawford today. See you Wednesday.

SAW

Thanks Danny for your words of wisdom. I had also spoken with Dirk a few weeks back and we came to pretty much the same conclusion about the baskets. This whole affair has escalated way out of proportion. I am still not 100% convinced that the baskets are the property of P&R but out of necessity I feel that we should just let it be and get on with the process of new course development. I like the idea of having a course at Flagpole Hill because of the exposure it would give to DG in general. However, Crawford park also has a very strong appeal simply because of the caliber of course it will become. Either way DG in general will benefit. :cool:

well put troy !!!!!

Some safety issues were brought up to me by Gary. We will be changing hole #1 & hole #18, and a few other adjustments here & there. Be there tomorrow @ 6:00 pm. Hoping to be a very sucessful workday.

Thanks,
SAW

I don't want to see any course that is approved sitting empty. We need to have a show of support for S. Crawford to convince the parks department that it was a good decision to approve the course and that there is adequate support in the area for a course to be a viable use of the property.




as it also helps show the postive effects of more Dallas Courses

what safety issues?

hole #1 throwing along the parking lot, #18 throwing across the pond.

On hole 1 it was finding a way to prevent bad shots from finding the parking lot. Steve decided to drop the hole and use the long basket position for the long tee for hole 2 (which now becomes hole 1). The sleeve that's in the ground will be used coming from the other direction.

Hole 18 was a beautiful hole, but the only safe shots on the hole were around the right side of the lake over the sidewalk, or a hyzer over the top landing hard near the picnic table. It looks like hole 17 will get lengthened with a pin position near 18's old tee position. Walk across the sidewalk and use what was 10's fairway going back toward the parking lot. Steve was already looking at doing these holes, and from a safety point of view it removes all of the common use areas from dangerous positions. There still needs to be some design work to replace the lost hole, and make three fairways around 9's fairway, but Steve says he already has the new holes worked out.

This will put 1 & 10 leaving the parking lot, and 9 & 18 coming into the parking lot. Since the eventual layout will have hole 10 being the starting hole on the top course, and hole 9 the finishing hole of the bottom course, this will also work well with the future expansion to two complete 18 hole courses.

Thanks Gary, very well put & could have not said it better myself! The new hole #1 is a real signature hole. It is twice as nice.

SAW

OOOOOOOOOOO.... I can hardly wait to get at this course. You will have to remind me of how to actually get there. I also have a chainsaw if needed or even a weed wacker. Will there be someone out there earlier than 6pm that I can meet up with? I have the entire day off. :cool::p

hole 1 was just fine the way it was. :mad:

Call me Troy & I can meet you out there earlier than 6:00 pm.

SAW
(972) 681-5145

What time would you like to go out there?

Thanks again Gary for the $140.00 donation. This donation will help us accomplish 8 more sleeves to go into the ground for the front nine.
Thanks to your knowledge of course designs, everyone who plays this course will surely benefit.

SAW

i taught him everything he knows. :D

sometime around 3:00pm :cool:

what do you know Frank? ;)

Well, he taught me every thing he knows. It took about 10 minutes. :D

We walked the redesign yesterday, and it has the potential to be just as challenging, and the flow is much improved. It is also shaping up to have Blue and White tees of very similar length, but with very different shot requirements.

Steve this is Josh I just got my account with PDGA
What time are we working sunday morning? I have a couple of hours available starting at 7:30am

I won't be able to make it Sunday after all, I've got to carry the emergency pager, and they don't allow 30+ minute response times.

Just a quick summary.

We cut in Hole 1 Blue, found Hole 1 White (minimal clearing needed), and need about 3 bushes cut out of Hole 1 Red.

We cut in Hole 2 Blue, and completed Hole 2 White. Need to locate Hole 2 Red.

Hole 3 just needs a little trimming on the edges for all 4 tees.

Hole 4 needs to have the trees groomed (limbed up) along the fairway and around the green.

Hole 5 needs the bushes in the fairway trimmed and the pin location cut in.

Hole 6 needs the trees in the fairway groomed and the white tee cut in.

Hole 7 needs to have the fairway mowed and some old fallen logs cleared.

Hole 8 needs to cut in from start to finish.

Hole 9 needs to have bushes cleared from the fairway.

don't lose it. :D

What's that about?

gary's incompetance. :D

Hey this is SAW, Crawford Park is almost ready. Monday I plan on building eight more of the sleeves to put in the ground. So, Tuesday if anyone out there would like to help plant the sleeves, it would be much appreciated. Putting this course in is really not that hard, it just takes dedication. I would like to see everyone participate in my new Crawford Club, a non-profit organization.

Thanks very much,
Sawman

WTF?

No, I didn't lose the pager this time.

I did lose my phone Thursday evening clearing 2 Blue. :cool:

Come on out and help get this thing going I'll be back out Wednesday evening.

If anyone is trying to get in touch with me, my contact info is in my profile, the PDGA contact page (Texas State Coordinator link), and LSDGA.com .

The course is coming along slowly.

The course is going in slowly, but I like it that way. There are alot of things to see & changes are being made daily. There are not alot of people coming out to make a difference, when the course is in, I will see you then.

Thanks to Gary Duke & Frank Dorsett, they are helping me to accomplish what I could not have done myself.

Peace out.

Sorry, that looks a little negative now that I read over it again. I meant that the course was progressing. The holes are coming together very well. The pace is allowing for some tweaking of the design as the course is going in and all of the changes have been positive and some of them fairly dramatic. The changes to holes 1, 2, 7, and 8 make them much better holes than what was originally planned.

The changes to 9, 10, and 18 improve the flow of the initial 18 hole course and more importantly it will help the flow of the start and finish areas of the two 18 hole courses when they are completed.

It is not a bad thing that it is going slowly, I just would like to see a little more involvement from those that will be reaping the benefits of the course once it is installed.

hey dallas and arlington and cedar hill or just disc golfers and i mean real disc golfers. i hereby issue this challenge to come out and help put this course in the ground. even if only 4 or 5 accept this challenge and they bring a friend we could really get a lot done. so how about it who wants to step up and help out. we could sure use you. :D

Sunday when?

I hope those nails are trimmed Dorsett... :D

From 8:30 until.

thanks

Do you think you will make it this time ?

What time should I expect to see you ? After Lunch ?

alright patty

I wasn't talking to you.

You best be quiet, you don't want to upset both your doubles partners. :cool:

Where is Samuel Crawford Park? I'd like to come out and help, but I got to work on Sunday.

There is usually someone there on Saturday's as well, I'm normally there Wednesday and Sunday.

The park is at the corner Elam and Prairie Creek (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=elam+and+prairiecreek&city=dallas&state=tx&zipcode=). The parking lot is on the east side of the park, south of the soccer fields.

If you come in on Elam, turn south on Prairie Creek and go past the soccer fields. Turn into the parking lot just before the trees.

Gary, you going to be out there Sunday any???

I work open to close today, but may try to make it out there for a few yours (like noon to 3pm) on sunday. I know it is in thee hottest part of the day, but there is no way I am going to be able to get up early and I work 5 to close Sunday.

I would like to stay out of the poison Ivy.

I could either clear out briars or dig a hole. (I have a post hole digger)

I will be out there pretty much all day Sunday. There are plenty of places to work that are far from the Poison Ivy. It is really not that spread out. There are just a few places I've seen that need to be avoided, and we should be able to knock those out in a year or two.

I've heard from a few people that they "might" make it out Sunday, Let's all make a special effort to get out there for at least part of the day on Sunday.

sunday afternoon for me. gotta work. my boss ia an seventh day adventist. but i'll be out late sunday. who else?

This is josh I will bring my little girl out with me unless jenna wants to babysit while I help out there my mother is going to bring our daughter back to me aroud 1pm sunday Ill be ready to move some timber or any thing else away from the posion ivy......

that's great

is gary going at 830Am?

Hot, we worked on #9's fairway and tee box area. It is comming along. There is a lot of clearing to be done to make that hole playable.

What have you done to get this course ready????

Gary offered to show me the course, but I told him i was there to work and that is what I did.

Maybe I will be able to work out there again sometime in July

Thanks Josh and Bryan (Natalie and Raven as well) for helping with those vines on 9. It may not look like much, but that was a lot of work and is much appreciated.

First thing this morning I saw Dirk Snow and Danny Waldron in the parking lot bearing baskets. We have baskets, and the front 9 will be going in the ground in a few weeks. We have to get the rest of the front 9 ready for play, sleeves planted, and lock collars and pipes put on the baskets we have.

Scott Cook offered to mow the areas around 1 and 2 after the city chips or moves the piles that we have stacked and we clear the area of fallen limbs and large sitcks/bottles/trash.

After the front 9 are in, we will be having workday/minis with a discount entry into the mini for those that participate in the workday. There will still be 27 holes to clear, and 18 baskets to buy once the front 9 are ready for play. The back 9 will probably go in 2-3 holes at a time as the holes are ready for play.

I'll be unable to get out there next week, so my next work day will be Wednesday July 6th. Hope to see a few more people out there.

I will be back out their monday morning to clear what I can at hole nine I was thinking the piles we made today need to be moved up the hill so we can clear the other two tee boxes and finish up with the bule. This hole is going to be a challenge to say the least its uphill dogleg right around 400 im guessing the lines you guys have created are awesome.

Gary get some sleep and plenty of water He was their from 9am until after 4pm today working his tail off thank you so much for your dedication to this beautiful course... Also I would like to let everyone in the metroplex know. THIS COURSE WILL require every shot in your bag.
Please show some support for the local DG community please donate to The Crawford Club. :eek:

Thanks Josh and Bryan (Natalie and Raven as well) for helping with those vines on 9. It may not look like much, but that was a lot of work and is much appreciated.

First thing this morning I saw Dirk Snow and Danny Waldron in the parking lot bearing baskets. We have baskets, and the front 9 will be going in the ground in a few weeks. We have to get the rest of the front 9 ready for play, sleeves planted, and lock collars and pipes put on the baskets we have.

Scott Cook offered to mow the areas around 1 and 2 after the city chips or moves the piles that we have stacked and we clear the area of fallen limbs and large sitcks/bottles/trash.

After the front 9 are in, we will be having workday/minis with a discount entry into the mini for those that participate in the workday. There will still be 27 holes to clear, and 18 baskets to buy once the front 9 are ready for play. The back 9 will probably go in 2-3 holes at a time as the holes are ready for play.

I'll be unable to get out there next week, so my next work day will be Wednesday July 6th. Hope to see a few more people out there.




of course thanks for the work..but are the old goals only going to be alloted to 9...and not the full course???

The front 9 holes are almost ready for baskets, and instead of waiting for all 18 to be ready, the front 9 will be installed when the holes are ready.

With the front 9 installed, we can start holding Minis (using the Blue and White tees for 18 looks). As the back 9 get finished, the baskets will be added.

As soon as the front and back 9 are installed, we will start on the remaining 9 for the south course, then the remaining 9 for the north course. the front 9 will become part of the south course, the back 9 will become part of the north course.

its sunday anyone heading out over to Crawford im going to head over their for a couple hours with natalie

How did it go ?

I will be back out there Wednesday evening.

It's time to get to work again. From around 6:00 PM til dark.

Is anyone planning on working out their friday night tommorow the 15th of July if so get in touch with me Saw Has my number thanks Josh

I won't be there Friday, but am planning on Sunday again this week.

I'll be out there Sunday, but not as early. I have to watch the Tour de France in the morning. :D

I should be out there by Noon.

I went out their at 630pm sunday you guys were gone by that time

Sorry Josh, we were out there earlier and got stopped by the rain a few times. After the trees were wet, it was pretty messy. Then I got a call the a pipe beneath the sink had burst and the kitchen was flooding. I'll PM you my cell phone number so you can verify we're still out there. If you let me know you're on the way, I will be there, unless I have to go play plumber. :cool:

We are back out there again Tomorrow from around 5:45 til nearly dark if anyone feels the urge to join us.

The parks dept is ready to start digging holes for sleeves.

All the holes that are done look great.

I'll be out tomorrow from around 6:00 'til nearly dark, but probably will be parked on Prairie Creek just south of the parking lot.

Come on out.

hey guys i was out there today and could not find anything that looked like a baskit or tee when is the next work day i would like to come out and help anyway i can it will be really easy for me to stop by there on my way home and play so i am willing to do my part

Dave

Dave, Gary Duke's phone number is listed on this thread (as well as Steve's) one of them is out there almost every day.

It will be a few weeks before I can sneek another day down there. Texas 10 this weekend and I want to play a few tournaments in August.

I was out there Wednesday and Friday until dark.

I'll be out there again tomorrow after the Tour de France is over in the morning. Probably around 1:00.

I plan to be out there until 8:30 or so.

We will be working on 5 & 6 wo we won't be parked in the parking lot, but on Prarie Creek south of the parking lot.

Dave, PM me your number, or give Steve a call when you can make it out. The parks dept should get the holes dug for the sleeves next week if the "call before you dig" guys say they can start digging.

The front 9 is almost ready for play.

Sunday from about 10:00 AM til around 2:00 PM.

I will be out there again Wednesday from about 6 until dark. We will be working south of the parking lot again. Thanks to Dave and Frank for helping out last Wednesday.

Thanks to Dave for helping out Wednesday.

Sunday from between 5 & 6 pm 'til dark.

Come one, come all.

was sunday a wash out was raining hard at my place figured it was there to has anyone been out there to see how bad it looks can't work this wensday what days are paln for this week

Dave

We were there Sunday for a while. Then I spent the rest of the evening getting my forehead stitched up. A large oak branch got the last punch in, but I'm the one still standing. I probably won't be able to make this Wednesday. Should have the stitches out early next week.

Sorry to hear about the head wound. Be caareful out there, Gary. It sounds like good work you guys are doing! Thank you from someone who's never seen that part of Dallas.

You'll have to come out and see it sometime soon. Hope to hve baskets in the ground within a month.

Dang dude you got to be more carefull sorry i did not come out so let me know next time you go out and i will try to be there

I won't be back at the park before I get the stitches out.

I'll have the pager next week, so the 21st looks like the first time I can get back out there. Hopefully some of the sleeves will be in the ground before then. I haven't heard how the parks dept is coming along with the auger, but I am hopeful.

I am truly sorry Gary that you were hurt working out on the course. I appreciate all your time and effort. Monday I will be meeting with Diane to arrange the sleeves to be placed in there location. SAW

It's not a problem. Accidents happen.

I can't make it next week because I'm carrying the pager again, but hope to get some people out to help Sunday the 21st. There is still a chance we can get the front 9 playable by Labor Day. I have the pager again over Labor day weekend, so I can't make that Sunday either, but hopefully the front will be ready.

ok i will plan on the 21st as long as it is laterafternoon early evening hope you are feeling better

Dave

It will probably be most of the day. I will try to be out early, and again late. Don't know if I will be around in the hottest part of the day or not. There is still a lot of little things that have to get done before the course is ready to play, and some of those have to wait until the sleeves are planted.

I am pushing for a good sized turnout Sunday. I will be pimping the work day at the Texas 10 in Cedar Hill. I should be out there both early (9-12) and late (5-9). Come when you can make it.

I really would like to see the front 9 in by early September.

will do my best to be out there 5 to 9 by the way hows the head


Dave

Whats up gary saw called me last night friday to ask if I was going to work sunday I said yes so look for me early 9 am cause I work at 3pm peace Josh BTW this course is so sick saw and I played it a few weeks ago anyone who has not had a chance to see what kind of course this is going to be really I can not emphasize enough with words to describe the surrounding landscape within the course I suppose alot of people are scared by a course of this caliber.

Thanks to Josh and Dave for coming out.

I'll be out again today from 6 'til dark.

I should be able to make it out sunday morning again this week I had to work today otherwise I would have been working I took a tool over to saw's house that should be able to cut the poles needed to mount the baskets that are without them anyway I am going to try and cooridinate with saw on a time to help him cut them.... Friday saturday and sunday I dont have work we should have all of them cut no later than sunday.

Well, 1, 2, and 3 look fairly different than they did a couple of weeks ago.

4, 5, & 7 don't need much of a change.

6, 8, & 9 are all over half done.

That's what is left for the front nine to be ready.

See you on Sunday Josh.

Not that we brought the group...but what is taking so much longer than it did at CH?...is it that wooded?

Gary...put the saw down and get back to golfing...you keep hurting yourself.and we have another round at the VET coming up

:D

Cedar Hill took quite a bit of time as well. The main difference is manpower. At Cedar Hill the few days I was out there, there were crews of 20+ people trying to finish before the Big Show. And it was Winter. In our case, there are usually three people there for about 3 hour stretches. Instead of basically getting one hole cut-in in a day, we are having to spend about 3 work days on the initial cut-in of each hole. That's a week and a half, then another couple of days on clean up and adjustments. That's another week.

So, at 2 and a half weeks per hole at best, I think it is going rather well. If we could get 5-6 people per work day, it would go much quicker.

SAW it was nice meeting you today in garland, hope you had a great round!

tomorrow i have to work until 4ish, but ill make it out there as soon as possible ill be giving you a call when i get off.

lets see if we can get a large group out there

Once again, Sunday from 9-12 and 5-dark.

The weekday work day is shifting to Thursday evening instead of Wednesday. The weekend workday will continue to be Sunday.

I won't be able to make it This Sunday, but will be out there Thrusday from 6:00 'til dark.

sorry i have not been out there guys was down in my back :mad:will try to make it out tommorrow if i feeling good enough
Dave

More workday info:

Sunday Sept. 11 5:00 PM 'til dark.

Now if we can just get some baskets planted.

Looks like we've been rained out today.

Can't make it Sunday because I'll be playing Mr. Jim's.

I'll try to be out there Tuesday and Thursday next week.

I couldn't make it out there Tuesday, and Sunday looks like it will be rather wet, so Thursday is the time to get to the pin position of 8.

I'll be there from around 5:45 til dark. Come on out and help.

I should be out also gary looking forward to getting some pins set soon

I'll be out there again this Thursday, one last pin location needs to be cleared, and we will try to get the sleeves planted. Two fairways left to clean up and then we can start setting baskets. Hopefully this weekend as well.

Once the front 9 is in the ground, we can start mini's using the White/Blue Tees.

Today's the day. Hope to see a few of you out there.

We had a good sized crew out there Thursday night. Got a lot of stuff cleared from the start of Eight.

Sunday is the next big day.

Gary, I want so bad to get out there and work some more but have been working too much on the weekends. (infact I am at work right now)

Tomorrow, I work open to close so I am out again. (same schedule as next weekend, day shift on Saturday and open to close on Sunday)

at this rate it will be a long time before I can make it that way again.

We walked the back side again today, there were about 3 holes that hadn't been nailed down back there, and we pretty much nailed them down so that the holes are interesting, and the walks are pretty short. Good flow and it brings you right up over the creek so you can watch the turtles bask in the sun.

Took a few pictures today, so I can get holes 1 and 2 up.
I apologize to those with dial up connections, but I'm posting the pics here.

Hole 1 is 330 feet with the pin protected by a stand of cedars. From the Blue Tee you can see the left side gap around the cedars (A), from the White tee you can see the gap on the right (B). The Red can see both the A and B gaps. The Blue dot is in the same place in all of the pics for reference.

The hole is pretty short, but with the low ceilings, it isn't a gimme. Pay attention to the pics of the creek bank past the hole. The bottom is only 30' away, and you might be able to see the top of the pin from the bottom.

Hole 1 from the Blue Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1b1.jpg

Hole 1 from the White Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1w1.jpg

Hole 1 from the Red Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1r1.jpg

Hole 1 from the blue dot.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1bd.jpg

Hole 1 from the A gap.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1a.jpg

Hole 1 from the B gap
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1b.jpg

Hole 1 creek bank from the A side
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1ca.jpg

Hole 1 creek bank from the B side
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1cb.jpg

Hole 1 creek bank from the pin
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h1cp.jpg

Hole 2. Blue 400', White 350', Red 275'

The Blue tee offers a straight shot through a 8' wide gap, or a slight annie fade through a 15' gap that is less visible from the tee. The Blue tee starts flat then drops about 30' to the bottom of the hill, then climbs back up about 10' to the basket.

The White Tee plays a tight hyzer line to the Pro line, or wider hyzer to join the red tee line.

The Red Tee is a straight shot.

Hole 2 Blue Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h2b1.jpg

Hole 2 White Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h2w1.jpg

Hole 2 Red Tee.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h2r1.jpg

Hole 2 Blue dot
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h2bd.jpg

Hole 2 Zoom from the blue tee to the basket.
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h2bz.jpg

As you can see by the photos gary posted the course is looking sweeter every workday. Steve appointed me as the club treasurer if anyone can donate funds for the pole's needed to mount the front nine holes contact me Joshua Perkins on my cell phone (214)417-2462.
Thank you Curry and Mike for your donation today any type of contribution is welcome.

I'll be out there Thursday around 5:45.

Things are moving along quickly now, and the course is taking shape. The front 9 are almost ready for play. The back should go in much quicker since the weather will be better, and there is less underbrush to clear on that side of the pond.

I'll try to get more pictures Sunday.

any progress?

Yea, what is up.

Gary, lets run a fundraiser this winter out there.

A one day event. If we can get the bases back from Scott Cook for the Carrollton 9, we don't even need to have all the sleeves in before the event is held.

I can run payout with most of the income going to the course fund. (minus cost of goods sold, and something for the Carrollton Open)

Simply do a inventory before the tournament, do an inventory after the tournament. Subtract the cost of discs sold/payout and then split the rest 20% to the Carrollton Open and 80% to the course fund.

I am game. It is something I could do to raise money for the course.

9 sleeves are in the ground now. 7 more are waiting the sleeves and concrete.

The baskets need new poles (the poles from EBR were destroyed getting the baskets out) and they need locking flanges installed. We're working on tee signs.

Things are moving along nicely. Jeff Lisle brought the auger out and we dug holes for the back 9 except for 2 holes that could be a hazard if left unfilled for a few days.

Still a bit of work left in clearing 9's fairway to reduce the walk from 8's basket. I'll be getting some more pictures up shortly.

I will help with that if Bryan and Gary accept...you know I can bring the people....pics look great, but until there is metal in the ground..people will hide...

I know we can round up 18 buckets before the old ones go in the ground...how many do you have that can be used Bryan???

With Dukes pile of goals, myself, and then the piles of 1/2 goals ..we have 18 easy for a day,,get some FRTWRTH boys in and we can load in 36...

More pics:
Hole 3:
Gold - 490'
Blue - 520'
White - 400'
Red - 300'

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3bt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3wt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3rt.jpg
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3rd.jpg
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3bd.jpg
http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h3gd.jpg

Hole 4
Blue - 485'
White - 440'
Red - 350'

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h4bt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h4wt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h4rt.jpg

Hole 5
Blue - 360'
White - 290'
Red - 225'

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h5bt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h5wt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h5rt.jpg

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/h5bd.jpg

<font size=5>Front 9 Planted</font>
I got the word from Steve last night. The front 9 are in the ground. A little fairway clearing is left on holes 7 & 9, but the parks dept. is taking care of that.

Below is a quick map of the front 9. It's a little old, but it will get you around. An interactive version is at http://www.lsdga.com/maptest.html

We will be adding directional posts and tee posts this weekend.

http://www.lsdga.com/images/crawford/crawford_f9.jpg

This post is to remind everyone that we now have 27 fairways with 9 baskets the rec (red) tees play very fast holes 3,6, and 9 can be played as par four if desired its a beautiful course as you can see from the photos Gary posted the natural vegetation was uitilized the white and blue tees all have diffrent lines and require precise shot placement.

Nice pics, the course looks like a mix of Z-Boaz and Audobon.

There looks like some people have been out cutting without permission.

Just a warning, The tees are not set, if any new lines open up, the tees can be moved to nullify them.

If you want to use a saw, there is still plenty of cutting needed on the back 9. Do not cut anything without permission from Steve. The front 9 is basically done for at least 6 months. After then we will look over what needs to be tweaked and locations for alternate pin placements.

First Mini will be held Sunday Dec 4th. Flex start 9:30 - 10:00.

I don't have details on the entry fees of layout, but come on out and see if you like the course.

How did it go yesterday? How many golfers? Lowest score? I'm looking forward to seeing/playing it, just don't know when i'll have the time. :confused:

Just heard. There was only a handful of golfers out there, mostly Am players. They played the reds. I'm not sure what the scores were.