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That sucks hombre! Best of luck, but I would discourage against soliciting nasty letters from Dg'ers. While we may be great at talking smack, I don't think hate mail will bring about the happy, successful parks relationship you seek!

that is crazy, all the city wants is $$$$$$$$$$$. Good luck :mad:

Dude, the rest of us TDs pay the course use fees, fill out the forms and buy the PDGA insurance most of the time we run events. You just have to jump through the hoops. She is not hating on you. She's just running her park in a responsible, professional way. When I have dealt with Nancy Edwards, she has seemed like a very nice person.

Don't despair guy...this isn't all that uncommon for a public park to do. At Texas States, we have to pay $50/day to rent a pavillion (for headquarters) and we have to pay for local constables for "security" because we have an event that has more than 100 people. During the times we serve beer from one of our sponsors (and request donations) we have to pay for two polic officers!

It's just a tournament cost is all...you will come out better by working with the park staff to host this event under their terms. Their goal is to see more park visitation - generally - so if you can get a lot of players out there (certainly more than 40!) the cost becomes less on a per player basis...work for sponsorship and you'll have someone that covers those costs for you.

Flint is my old home town (before moving to Tejas about 24 years ago!) and I'm thrilled to see there is a course there!

Oh yeah - almost forgot to mention that if you sanction it through the PDGA, you can buy the PDGA insurance policy for your event for $50! Cheap insurance that the parks will love you for!

There's another thread this ******* started where the overwhelming posts are sane.

Coda and Pete, I'm ashamed of you.

Here's my take, two posts into one, from the other thread.


So where's the email address where we can email you for being a knucklehead?

Hey, when you run events in city parks, that's the sort of thing you have to do.

You know, crazy things like get permission, schedule accordingly, sign paperwork and act like a grown up.

If all that hurt your feelings, well maybe you shouldn't run an event.
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Maybe we should start a pre-emptive save the game's image campaign in that particular city by emailing this lady letters of support for doing things the right way and not letting some doofus give our events a bad name.

Just a thought.

Seriously, when I was trying to run multiple events a year, I did have to jump through some hoops that I thought were unnecessary and that frustrated the crap outta me.

Still, the way to handle that is to discuss it, knowing that the best you can hope for is leaving a good impression of the sport and yourself, thus making things easier next year.

Like I said, grow up.

At least he spelled tournament correctly on this thread

send her our hate huh? yeah, hate solves EVERYTHING. jackass.

Here is the private message I just sent to Jmdhs77:

Jmdhs77,

Whether you like it or not paying park fees is typically a necessity.

Trying to skirt the fine line by trying to get in just under the radar is a mistake.

Asking people to send hate email to someone for doing their job is also a mistake.

If Ms. Edwards gets enough hate mail do you think she is going to change her mind?

Pay the fees or don't have the event.

Follow the rules or risk having the course pulled.

How is it possible you are smart enough to organize an event and yet dumb enough to not follow park rules?

Please feel free to contact me with your lame reply.

Kirk Yoo

I noticed a couple of things about your post, first of all you put zero personal information up when you registered, not a bad thing but it gives the impression that you are a lurker. Second, I noticed that this was the first annual event. Well as several others have mentioned, this is common. Sometimes the city will forego the insurance and/or the park usage fee if you go to them and ask them something along the following:

"The local disc golf club apprecieates the work you and your crew have done on keeping the park in good shape. We are hoping to run a tournament on (fill in the date, give them at least a month) and we hope to accomplish a couple of things with this tournament, first we want to raise the communities interest the game of dics golf. We plan on getting a couple of the local radio stations and possilby a television news program to cover the tournament as well. I know from your e-mail what is required and I APOLOGIZE for not coming to you first, we were exceited about running our first tournament and failed to get the paper work done. Would it be possible to get the Parks and Rec Department to sponsor this tournament and cover the park usage fee? We will certainly include you in any teeshirts or pamplets we hand out. Thank you for your time."

Very good suggestion Jerry, but if even one hate mail got through, I don't think the Parks Dept will look very kindly on the request.

She may be a b*tch but we have to admit she's just doing her job...

yep, city of Carrollton charges $500 for use of the disc golf course. But then, I have never had to pay it. They "use" to even donate some cash for advertizing back in the old days.

Honey; moral; adios! ;)

I just want to ask you a couple of questions.

1. Who paid to put this course in?

If you answered the City P&R or anything other than "I paid for it", then be thankful you have a course to play. If the city asks for a small fee, is it not fair since they forked over the cash to install it?

2. Does it cost you to go play on a casual basis?

If the answer is no, then consider your self lucky. The city thought enough of disc golfers to put in a course so they could have a place to play for free.

Have you ever seen a city put in a ball golf course and let the people play for free? I don't think so.

Pay the fee and thank the city for allowing you to play in a city owned park on equipment paid for by the city, for free.

I don't think this guy got the responses that he was looking for. :o

Amen.

i hate tournaments that pay out in lightning plastic :D

This is just standard procedure for most any parks dept. We are filling out 5-6 forms for the Mad City Open in Madison. Each 1 of the courses costs $125 per day, and we are using 3 of them. Just work with them to insure that the line of communication is not broken. Sometimes the city parks folks can be bullheaded. Typically though if you just work with them you will get more than you expected.