9 years today for me.! :D

Congrats! Is it ever difficult?

9 years today for me.! :D



all the power to you amigo!!! keep it up!!

Congrats.

16 years here as of 4/4.

it was difficult before i got sober moreso than after. at least for me. it was hard to do at first, but the benefits far outweigh that.

52 years. But I know it's been easier for me never starting than for those who have stopped and been C&S for 6 days, 6 months or 6 years. I applaud your efforts how ever long it's been.

A really long time (20 years or so). Though there were some pretty drunken parties in the military when I didn't have to worry about driving afterward.

it was difficult before i got sober moreso than after. at least for me. it was hard to do at first, but the benefits far outweigh that.



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for a second, i thought that was seeware with that redskins avatar. :D

mine's better than his since it's located in DC!!!!

Congrats & keep counting !

I think his is better because it's located in Texas.

52 years. But I know it's been easier for me never starting than for those who have stopped and been C&S for 6 days, 6 months or 6 years. I applaud your efforts how ever long it's been.



Chuck, you've never tasted a drop of alcohol in your life?

Does sober mean you have never tasted alcohol, or never had enough to be considered drunk ?

Chuck, you've never tasted a drop of alcohol in your life?



If "sober" for C&S means zero alcohol then I guess I haven't been sober on that basis. I didn't have a drink until about age 20, never had a beer, and have likely never been legally drunk in terms of exceeding the 0.08 or 0.10 legal driving limits, which would be a more liberal meaning of sober.

im 17 and have never drank or smoked in my life and dont plan too even when i am old enough to do so!!! :D

Never played a round under any influence at all. Unlike many, many, many I know...........

I am 22 and besides some wine when I was younger at holidays I dont drink and I have never tried smoking and dont plan to do either.

Almost everyone I play with drinks or smokes, when they get drunk it just makes it easier for me to get their money during a round :)

clean and sober refers to NO drugs or alcohol after having a problem abusing one or both of them. planning to abstain is a good idea though.

9 years today for me.!



Many of you probably can't fully appreciate this accomplishment. He's spent the past year as my touring and doubles partner. Having to endure that made the odds against Rich making this milestone huge.

Congradulations.
9 1/2 years for me.

plus i TD'd a supertour event last year. if that doesn't make you want to drink, nothing will! :D

im 17 and have never drank or smoked in my life and dont plan too even when i am old enough to do so!!! :D



Wait until you attend college...

I am 16 and don't plan to drink/smoke (even in college) for one reason. Girls that dispise drinkers/smokers will see that I am the only sober guy at the party which in turn allows me to get all the ladies. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

when i was 16 i was getting clean after 4 years of smoking.

: ) :

oh little grasshopper...so much to learn, so much to learn

I am 16 and don't plan to drink/smoke (even in college) for one reason. Girls that dispise drinkers/smokers will see that I am the only sober guy at the party which in turn allows me to get all the ladies.




You OBVIOUSLY have NEVER been to a college party!!!!!!!

Here is a little tip for you..........The girls that dispise drinking and smoking ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT going to be at parties so you will be standing their sober playing pocket pool and NOT picking up ANY ladies :eek:

I am 16 and don't plan to drink/smoke (even in college) for one reason. Girls that dispise drinkers/smokers will see that I am the only sober guy at the party which in turn allows me to get all the ladies.




You OBVIOUSLY have NEVER been to a college party!!!!!!!

Here is a little tip for you..........The girls that dispise drinking and smoking ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT going to be at parties so you will be standing their sober playing pocket pool and NOT picking up ANY ladies :eek:



Very True.


BTW- i don't smoke and only drink once in a while, so I know this to be true.

One of the reasons I don't smoke is that I see so many examples at league and tournaments of why not to smoke.

One of the reasons I don't smoke is that I see so many examples at league and tournaments of why not to smoke.



DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!! We have a WINNER. Those guys think they play better when they are high but in all actuallity they play like crap /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

So you started your sober life on 4/20...what a day to quit. Congrats...

October 20 will be 7 years for me. There are a few friends of Bill W. out there on the links. You just have to look for the really good putters :D.

I am 16 and don't plan to drink/smoke (even in college) for one reason. Girls that dispise drinkers/smokers will see that I am the only sober guy at the party which in turn allows me to get all the ladies.


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You OBVIOUSLY have NEVER been to a college party!!!!!!!

Here is a little tip for you..........The girls that dispise drinking and smoking ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT going to be at parties so you will be standing their sober playing pocket pool and NOT picking up ANY ladies :eek:



Millz the only B!tches you'll be getting is from the SPCA.

:o:D

Its ok Kev. We know the only biatches you get to talk to are the ones looking for a [*****] best friend :eek:

I would put money on my girl busting your a$s at the golf course. Her rating is only a few points behind yours. Lets set it up. The world would love to see you get your a$s handed to you by a girl. <EMBED src="http://www.dailywav.com/0502/whoopass.wav" autostart="true" hidden="false" loop="false">
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Please say something bad about her, she's quick to dot peoples eyes..

Whos your girl and why wasnt she at the Memorial???

Im down for that bet. You have never even seen me play a round but ill take your money from you so that maybe youll shut your taint tickler

all you have to do is click TWISTED. There she is

Pictures mean nothing to me McCoy. What is her name???

Just look on the ladies MONEY list, Top 3 in points, Top 5 in cash, it won't take you too long to find her. 2003 Womens Distance World Champ, 2004 runner up to Val by 4 feet. SHE WILL WHOOOOOP YOUR *****!

Steve, McCoy almost won a NT event in the OPEN division this past weekend not in your AM division. Don't even think your game compares to Kevins let alone his girls. Your comment was complete http://www.columbusdiscgolf.com/images/bsflag.gif . Don't talk **** you can't back up.

I wouldn't say I was close to winning it, Bunnel busted me up pretty handly :cool:

2nd is pretty close to winning in my book. You did beat a bunch of high ranking golfers pretty badly in his area, Mike Raley, Todd Branch, Al Shack. I know Steve is not beating them in Michigan..........

Her name would be: Courtney Peavy

God help her, if she is dating you kevin.......

Steve, McCoy almost won a NT event in the OPEN division this past weekend not in your AM division. Don't even think your game compares to Kevins let alone his girls. You comment was complete http://www.columbusdiscgolf.com/images/bsflag.gif . Don't talk **** you can't back up.



HAHAHAHAHA. I never said my game was as good as or could even be compared to Kevins. I know that it cant I also know that ive been playing for maybe a 5th of the time that he has so I could really care less if hes better then me or not. On the other hand ill bet that his girl cant even touch me on the course. She is a great player and a very cute girl but if you guys think shes going to beat me on the course then your BOTH smoking something that FUKS your brain up pretty good.

When and where do you want to make the bet Kev???

Oh by they way. Nice work at the NT McCoy :D

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God help her, if she is dating you kevin.......



TRUE DAT! :D

2nd is pretty close to winning in my book. You did beat a bunch of high ranking golfers pretty badly in his area, Mike Raley, Todd Branch, Al Shack. I know Steve is not beating them in Michigan..........



OBVIOUSLY since they have all been playing for about 10 more years then I have. I mean seriously do you expect me to be 1000 rated after not even 2 years of tournament play??? Were YOU 1000 rated after 2 years of play??? Oh wait i forgot you were NEVER 1000 rated, not even after 5 years of tournament play :eek:

Hey Ben if you were paying attention Kevin wasnt talking about HIM beating me he was talking about COURTNEY beating me. Just thought I would let you know.

I know I cant beat Kevin right now but in the next few years im sure as hell going to try and get to that level :D

To the youth who posted their intentions to remain sober: please stick to your convictions. You do not need to drink or smoke to get the girls, at least not the ones with moral standards like yourself. Plus, girls will always be glad to leave the party with you, as you can be the designated driver!

http://www.columbusdiscgolf.com/images/leghump.gif.........

Her name would be: Courtney Peavy

God help her, if she is dating you kevin.......



Yeah.... I played with Courtney last summer on the friday before the Hotlanta Tournament which she was the tournament director. Um....she is freakin awsome and would probably hand it to most advanced guys in the nation. I would easily guess her player rating is lagging behind her right now. Even last year I would say she was playing better then 912. (Way to go Kev....you got the "Belle" of Southern Disc Golf).




Stay sober, especially on the course. Drunk/high golfers annoy the crap out of me.

BDGP -

Way to take a thread about people celebrating sobriety and turn it into another thread about......memememememememe!!!!




Funny you say that because if you look back KEVIN MCCOY turned this thread into stuff about ME. Thanks though. This is a prime example of what happens on here. Someone sees stuff said about me on here and then me talking and thinks that I started it.

Thanks for the insult though even though I didnt do it. i really appreciate that.

I apologize and I have edited my post. It just seems that you post on almost every single thread and you like to talk trash on all of them.

I don't think it is right to smack talk a 16 year old about wanting to be sober. It is difficult enough, without comments like this:


You OBVIOUSLY have NEVER been to a college party!!!!!!!

Here is a little tip for you..........The girls that dispise drinking and smoking ARE NOT and i repeat ARE NOT going to be at parties so you will be standing their sober playing pocket pool and NOT picking up ANY ladies




BTW, I did meet you in Phoenix, and you did seem like a nice kid.

when i started this thread, i certainly didn't imagine comments like those by BDGP.

BTW, i remember thinking that everybody cool did drugs and alcohol. man, was i stupid back then.....

I don't think it is right to smack talk a 16 year old about wanting to be sober. It is difficult enough, without comments like this:




I wasnt smack talking him for wanting to be sober. I was just showing him that his REASON for being sober which he said was his ONLY REASON was completely flawed and untrue. I never told him that he should or shouldnt drink or smoke. Thats his decision to make and if he can stay sober I think thats great. Its really hard to do in this day and age. I was just telling him his reason and logic around being sober is incorrect.

By they way it was nice to meet you.

Keep coming back, BDGP

One word......
Titties and beer!!!!!!!!!
It's Rodney Carrington for the "lapers"
:o:D:cool:;)

Her name would be: Courtney Peavy

God help her, if she is dating you kevin.......


I met her at GSC last year, and she seemed like such a nice lass. I hope she is a USC fan if she's dating kev. :)

I haven't had a drink in over four years. Roughly about the time I started discin'.......hmmmm... ;)

Don't think we have met but I will be at worlds. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

"Its really hard to do in this day and age."

It's called will power and having the force of character to do your own thing, not to have a pack mentality.

"I was just telling him his reason and logic around being sober is incorrect."

Have you studied logic? YOUR basic assumption--that girls wouldn't be attacted to guys who didn't drink--seems flawed to me. And yes, I have studied logic--it's called MATHEMATICS...

Two things:

A) I hate DGPimp. I think he's a [*****]. Yet, when I read his post, I just felt he was telling it the way it is. In no way did I think he was condoning (look it up Pimp :D) drinking or smoking.

2) Just wanted to point out that there's nothing wrong with drinking. What's wrong is people who don't have the discipline and self-control to drink responsibly. In these cases, there is a problem, and one way, perhaps the best way, for them to deal with it, is to go cold turkey. Good for them for finding a way around their problem. :cool:

OMG, they added "cret!n" to the ***** list. That's pretty hilarious. :D :D

If you think everyone drinks and you can't get laid in college without it, just keep coming back. ;)

WOW! :o

Have you studied logic? YOUR basic assumption--that girls wouldn't be attacted to guys who didn't drink--seems flawed to me. And yes, I have studied logic--it's called MATHEMATICS...




Never ONCE did i say that girls arent attracted to guys who dont drink. I simply stated that girls who like guys that DONT drink prolly arent going to be at COLLEGE PARTYS they will be other places where they KNOW they can find guys who dont drink.

My logic is not flawed. You are assuming and in turn making an ***** out of yourself because you are tying to make me look bad but you are trying to do it by using something that I DIDNT EVEN SAY!!!!!!!!!

Thanks though. Have a great day.

If you read the original post, Millz is correct.

He merely stated that going to college parties and not drinking was not a good method to meet girls that are into guys that don't drink.

The library, quad, or sports fields would probably be a better places for a non-drinkers to find non-drinking dates. Or so I'm told. :cool:

A) I hate DGPimp. I think he's a [*****]. Yet, when I read his post, I just felt he was telling it the way it is. In no way did I think he was condoning (look it up Pimp ) drinking or smoking.



Once again another person who has never met me nor played a round with me in his life ( atleast that i know of ) is bashing me and saying that he hates me for no reason what so ever. Let me go cry about it :( Oh wait i forgot I DONT GIVE A FLYING #$%^ what this guys thinks of me and its errelivant (sp?) because he doesnt even know me. Second I know what condoning means thank you very much :mad:

Your a loudmouth ****** bag!

so why not be yourself on the message board, or is this a place to let that person out

Oh wait i forgot I DONT GIVE A FLYING



Then resist the troll. As long as you respond (and you respond loudly) there will always be people that post things to make you fly off the handle.

Hey, remember, I was backing him up. I just wanted to point out I wasn't a Love Buddy of his or something. The fact that I think he's a maroon only makes my backing him up stronger. :D

Hey Steve I could get wasted and still take you out in golf. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

stay straight scooter!!! i partied my [*****] off when i was real young and i know from experience!! your better off in the long run without all that!!

wow , i totally agree with you on something!! nice post bagger!!

If you knew what i was writing you would be the one shutting your mouth. I was going to go into how drugs and alcohol messed up my life for a while and tell him that it is easier to just not start then it is to start and try and stop once you realize its gotten out of control.

So if you can go your whole life being sober id say thats great and more power to you because I spent alot of years of my life messed up on drugs and alcohol and I would like to have alot of that time back if I could. Sure it created lots of fun memmories and great times in my life but it also created alot of un needed drama and legal trouble :mad:

So stay sober if you can but if not try your best to keep it under control.

Your a loudmouth ****** bag!

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Big Talk From an anoymous loser!

Grow some B*lls and tell us who you are.

Otherwise your just another trash talkin p@ssy

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I'm sorry! :( I'm an old guy so I assume that I am not in the know?....but what does "WORD" actually mean? :confused: I've seen it used alot but I'm lost??? :confused: :D

Pretty much means I agree :D

I'm sorry! :( I'm an old guy so I assume that I am not in the know?....but what does "WORD" actually mean? :confused: I've seen it used alot but I'm lost??? :confused: :D



Word Is Bond...

I'm sorry! :( I'm an old guy so I assume that I am not in the know?....but what does "WORD" actually mean? :confused: I've seen it used alot but I'm lost??? :confused: :D


There's a really old disco song called "Word Up". It comes from that. But yeah, it means "I agree" or "you are SO right!" Along those lines. (I'm old, too.)

He merely stated that going to college parties and not drinking was not a good method to meet girls that are into guys that don't drink.


BUT.....even though you don't drink, you really want to go to those parties and meet the girls who drink! :D

thats an old dirty secret!!

I'm sorry! :( I'm an old guy so I assume that I am not in the know?....but what does "WORD" actually mean? :confused: I've seen it used alot but I'm lost??? :confused: :D


There's a really old disco song called "Word Up". It comes from that. But yeah, it means "I agree" or "you are SO right!" Along those lines. (I'm old, too.)



word up is by cameo... the first go round...and now redone by the band that all the young punks :Dout there know of....also a south park favorite band......by the name of......












KORN!!!!

even though you're old doesn't mean you can't listen to ALL kinds of music...mr. stroh!!! :D:D

OK.

I was avoiding this one as I am am not sober myslef. (hence the rambling ;))

But I can share this:

When I was 21 my mother spent 30 days in the hospital I was born in recovering from accute alcoholism and the withdrwals there of. She nearly passed. But she entered AA and masterd the 12 step. 19 years latter I can not tell you happy I am to say that she is still here with us. :D

It was the hardest thing she ever did, and it was the best thing she ever did. :D
The 12 step saved her life. There is no doubt about it. My faher did it with her, and they are such wonderful people for it. Not just the sobriety.

We each have our own ways to go through life, and learn our lessons. The important thing is to not let things get out of hand to where they bring you down. And try to find ways to live in harmony with those of differnt paths.

Try to find tollerance for each other, try not to let your Vices make you Obnoxious, :confused: :mad: ... nor your Virtue :o

If you ever think you need help you're not alone. There are people out there who can help and wan to help. Find Them.

To all of you who are sober and / or have done the 12 step, my hat is off to you. You should be very proud of yourselves. :D
For the young ones, from what I can tell from here, it's probably best if you never get started with any of it. Life is plenty of fun without the filters:D

I'm sorry! :( I'm an old guy so I assume that I am not in the know?....but what does "WORD" actually mean? :confused: I've seen it used alot but I'm lost??? :confused: :D


There's a really old disco song called "Word Up". It comes from that. But yeah, it means "I agree" or "you are SO right!" Along those lines. (I'm old, too.)



word up is by cameo... the first go round...and now redone by the band that all the young punks :Dout there know of....also a south park favorite band......


I had no idea it had been re-done.

I'm clean, sober and soft drink free. I haven't been to a McDonalds since I saw Super Size Me.

I'm clean, sober and soft drink free. I haven't been to a McDonalds since I saw Super Size Me.



True Dat!

You'd be richer and healthier if you just grabbed an apple :D

3 years here

Ever since I got my second DUI in '93 I've pretty much stayed off the suds. I don't think it was so much as being an alcoholic but more like being young and stupid. Nowadays I don't keep beer, wine or booze in the house, but on certain occasions I'll still indulge myself in a late night out (where I am not driving!). I still smoke, tobacco and the occasional non-tobacco product, but at this stage of my life that's more like a bonus for a crappy day ay work than a "I gotta have it" kind of thing. Sounds like I'm rationalizing - maybe I am. The point I wanted to make, however, is that when it comes to disc golf, ball golf, fishing or whatever, I TOTALLY enjoy the experience much more when I'm sober than buzzed. I could sit with my playing partners before a round and smoke a ***** if I wanted, but I never do. I get a lot more satisfaction out of playing my best at full faculties (well, as full as they can be at 40 ;)) than I do when I'm copping an attitude adjustment.

But I will say...I've now gone 26 days cold turkey from soda (pop or coke depending on where you're from) and bread, eliminating almost 1100 calories from my daily diet. I can already feel the change in my energy level and the waistline. Them hills on the course aren't so bad anymore, and my back doesn't tighten up as quickly as it used to. I still gotta ditch the Marlboros, though. Argh.

I'm clean and sober, but I have good examples to live by... father died of cancer (cigarettes, alcohol), uncle died of cirrhosis and pneumonia (cigarettes, alcohol), mother is dying of heart disease (cigarettes), my 41 year old homeless sister died three days ago of cirrhosis of the liver in the back of a carwash just in front of the woods she lived in (alcohol, meth, cigarettes). Yes we tried to get her off the street, but alcohol is mighty strong competition. Learn to live healthy, not drink and smoke. It's not worth the pain and suffering to you and your loved ones.

I would put money on my girl busting your a$s at the golf course. Her rating is only a few points behind yours. Lets set it up. The world would love to see you get your a$s handed to you by a girl.
Please say something bad about her, she's quick to dot peoples eyes..




Hmm..... Looks like you yourself better be carefull then. I seem to recall something you wrote, let's see, oh yea....


Mr Hawk, I have a serious dilima upcoming and I need some help on how to handle it?

At an upcoming tournament I will be entering a very sticky situation. See I have an ex girlfriend that moved to the town where the tourney is. She has already made arrangements and has already bought my plane ticket to make sure I will be at this tournament. She is planning on picking me up and putting me up at this event, she also wants to attend the tournament and caddy for me. Thats only part of the problem tho. The problem is that I have had some relations with a local female golfer at this tourney and she has told me how excited she is to see me at this event, oh but thats only the second issue. The MAIN issue is that I am presently dating a certain female that will be playing in this event also. What the hell am I gonna do? Should I just make up a story about having a severe case of crabs and not show up?




Man if that doesn't make her look like a fool. Assuming she is one of the three. If not then all I have to say is Wow, you are really hot with the disc golf ladies. Maybe you could teach me a thing or two. I wonder if she knows you have talked about her like this. Pretty sad if you ask me.

Man if that doesn't make her look like a fool. Assuming she is one of the three. If not then all I have to say is Wow, you are really hot with the disc golf ladies. Maybe you could teach me a thing or two. I wonder if she knows you have talked about her like this. Pretty sad if you ask me.




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terry, this thead needs a good deleting!

Wow Brian, I am so sorry to hear that. Its heartbreaking.

Meth is bad, said the old guy with bad teeth. (And with several years now free of it.)

Alcohol is bad, said the guy who's struggling to curtail his weekday suds intake, with a pair of grandparents dead from it and a mom 24 years in the program.

Drugs are bad, said the guy who used to down a handful of pills washed down by a shot of Crown prior to taking the stage and really partying.

Cigarettes are bad, said the guy who after being totally quit for 3 years, gave in during a weak moment. In all that 3 years, the craving never went away. Best not to ever start.

I'm not sober, but I've got a handle on most of the things that can kill ya'. I'm still struggling with the cigs (nasty [*****]), and I still enjoy a cold frosty adult beverage.

Moderation is the key to life. Abstinence is the only answer when moderation fails.

FWIW.

(My mom says she's saving me a chair. :) )

No alcohol since October 22, 1992.
Not that I'm keeping track, or anything. ;)

To all you guys who are daily kicking those habits, a big-time congrats and keep it up!

To the young guys (and girls), it's a whole lot easier to not start than to have to quit later on. A lot of folks have a genetic predisposition toward alcoholism and won't know it until they get hooked. Dope, booze, and even tobacco have messed up a lot of people's lives...don't start..

I'll be 30 this year and have never had any desire to do that stuff. As for college, I had a blast at one of the biggest party schools anywhere (Univ. of Florida) without it. Get high on life!

"For many, total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation." -- St. Augustine (354-430)

St. Augustine said:



"For many, total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation."



Mark said:


Moderation is the key to life. Abstinence is the only answer when moderation fails.



Does that mean I'm kinda saintly? :)

And yes Drew, and others who have said this, if you're young, try to avoid getting drawn into a lifestyle which even the most staunch defenders of, would tell you at times has had a negative impact on their lives, which they would change if they knew then what they know now.

And yes Drew, and others who have said this, if you're young, try to avoid getting drawn into a lifestyle which even the most staunch defenders of, would tell you at times has had a negative impact on their lives, which they would change if they knew then what they know now.

as in the words of St. Willie "mama, dont let your babies grow up to be cowboys"

(or republicans)

Had I known back when I started drinking and smoking Cigs that It would [*****] up my body and cause me as much legal trouble as it has then I would have never started. Ive kicked the cig habit and am in the process of trying to kick the drinking habit. The cigs was no problem its the drinking that im having trouble with. Ive cut it back to Bowling League nite and weekends but I think I want to cut it out ALL TOGETHER.

Trust us when we say "Its easier to stay away then its is to start and quit later"

Pat, there are as many nut jobs among the donkey party as the Bush for King party.

If it makes you feel better, I have met more [*****]holes in the latter than the former. :) (You excluded, of course)

Mr. Limpet, we do agree on that then. There's a common ground. Maybe you should curtail the Bowling activities for a while, if that could help.

As for me, cigs are my evil hook in the mouth. I decided last night to quit again. Next couple of weeks are really gonna suck (like there's not enough stress in my gig already).

Use the patch and follow the instuctions quit 3 years ago after 11 years of hard core smoking.

Hey Lance, I've given the patch some thought but when I quit for 3 yrs. it was cold turkey.

As for you smoking for 11 years, I wish I could say that. I've probably been smoking almost as long as you've been breathing in and out. :)

I don't think you're quite that old. I started smoking in my twenties.

I'm proud of you SpatWood! It's not that hard!

Keep up the good work and just don't buy any :cool:

I quit with the ciggs over 4.5 years ago cold turkey and I'll never go back!

I thought you were younger than that, my bad. :)

I started smoking 30 years ago, and a pack or more a day 27 years ago. There were those three years from 99-02, but other than that, I've been killing myself on a regular basis for a long time. :)

Gee, I can't weight (freudian slip left in for humor during later edit) to blimp up like last time. My stop smoking plan consisted of Wild Berry Gummie Savers. :)

Mr. Limpet, we do agree on that then. There's a common ground. Maybe you should curtail the Bowling activities for a while, if that could help.



Im just taking it one step at a time. I was up to about 2 cases Monday threw friday and then another 2 on the weekends and Now im down to less then a case a week. I have quit drinking Monday-Friday except for my bowling league on thursdays and Im trying to quit drinking as much on the weekends as well. I really think that it will help my golf game. I dont think Ill EVER quit for good or stop entirely im just going to try and keep it to special occasions only.

Find the nearest "Freedom From Smoking" classes

Wait, here you go:

American Lung Association "Freedom From Smoking" link (https://www.kintera.org/site/apps/kb/home/login.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=38973&kntaw1360=2DAEBE6CCCF942D4AC3A459006C93F78&membershipreq=83912&targetURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Elungusa%2Eorg%2Fsite% 2Fpp%2Easp%3Fc%3DdvLUK9O0E%26b%3D22933)

I recommend finding one of the classes and paying $60 or $100 or whatever it is these days. Something about doing it with a group that helps. It's no use quitting and being miserable all the time. The Lung Association class teaches you to identify your "triggers" and realize when they are kicking in. You come up with strategies for dealing with the triggers before they happen, so you are prepared. You hang out with others going through the same thing so you don't feel like a solo i-diot like you do when you get cravings going it alone.

But rest assured, two to three weeks of your life will be awful. Funny since it only a few days for your body to detox, but your brain...that's the problem. :)

Do it Mark. You need another 20 pounds on you anyway. :D

Use the patch and follow the instuctions quit 3 years ago after 11 years of hard core smoking.

It DOES help; it doesn't really matter why; it's the END result which is important. ;) No shame in getting a li'l help!

Use the patch and follow the instuctions quit 3 years ago after 11 years of smoking.

It DOES help; it doesn't really matter why; it's the END result which is important. ;) No shame in getting a li'l help!



Watch for Police !!!!

Don, why are we watching for police? (On two threads, no less.)

Don, why are we watching for police? (On two threads, no less.)



Opps..........may have typed that on the wrong thread.

I just saw the words " Clean and Sober".
No worries.

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