Apr 13 2005, 05:17 PM
So I've been playing almost a year, and my power has improved very well. I can consitently throw in the 360ft area which is pretty awesome, especailly cause my home course has holes around that length with wide open long hyzer shots. When I go to a discgolf park that require more demanding shots, like straight tunnel shots, or slight anhyzer shots, I'm out of luck. Even the hyzer shots I'm not consistent with. Today, I started focusing on the orientation of the back of the disc and that has really helped me nail my lines.

Anyone else have any advice for little things that help put the disc on the line they want?

Apr 13 2005, 05:25 PM
Make your target as small as possible. If you are throwing threw a 20' gap don't just aim for the gap, focus on something farther down, maybe the basket if you can see it. Also try discs that will hold lines, leopard, xpress, sidewinder for anhyzer, firebird, monster, tsunami for hyzer. in between ones like beasts and flashes for straight.

Apr 13 2005, 05:26 PM
A big thing that helps me is to just visualize the path

gnduke
Apr 13 2005, 05:31 PM
Whenever you go to the field to practice, pick a line (high hyzer, low hyzer, skip shot, low straight, roller, S-shot, anhyzer) and throw every disc in your bag on each line. That is learn how to force you more overstable stuff to hold an anhyzer, your understable stuff to hold a hyzer and both to hold a straight line.

It is mainly a combination of snap, speed, and angle that will bend the discs to your will. The more you learn about how to make the discs do what you want, the more you will learn about what these discs can do themselves.

It's true you won't be able to throw a very understable disc 360' on a hyzer line, but you should be able to control it into a 250'-300' slow turning hyzer line. It will be useful when you can't afford a hard left skip after the hyzer.

Apr 13 2005, 08:05 PM
Ah, I would like to add onto what has helped me. I know this has already been said in other places, but the thing that really makes the disc go on the angle you want is the plane that your arm is traveling on. So if you want a hyzer your arm should swing up and if you want anhyzer it should swing down. I tried to keep this in mind before, but it wasn't really helping me, UNTIL I started concentrating on keeeping the back of the disc up and on that same plane as the one the arm is traveling on. Now it seems I can release the disc with 12 and a half degrees anhyzer if I choose.

I know its basic fundamentals that the disc and arm should be traveling on the plane that you want the disc to leave on once you throw it, but I just never grasped the feeling until now.

junnila
Apr 13 2005, 08:11 PM
It differs for every golfer, I find myself throwing almost every shot chest high and not trying to "shape" my arm path, but if it is working for you then stick to it.

bcary93
Apr 21 2005, 12:36 AM
Make the more demanding course your home course ! The more you play the easy, wide-open course the less your skills will be tested. Even if you play the easy course you can play a more demanding game and force yourself to play as if the course is tighter than it really is. For example, if there's a convenient hyzer line, try playing as if there's a patch of trees in the middle of that line that you have ot play around. Another option is to play your home course but instead of using the "disc that works best" for any given shot, use a disc that doesn't fit the shot well, but make the disc work there.

Apr 21 2005, 03:12 AM
I find myself doing that often which i then make the Non-travelled route my main shot for that hole.
At my homecourse in Vineland it's pretty wide open. It's usually eitehr a straight/hyzer or an anny/hyzer...
I throw the smaller gaps usually and even try weird shots just for practice..
I find myself throwing the anny line on most holes that others would hyzer just becuase the anny has a much better risk/reward factor.

Today i could seem to throw an anny to save my life though. I pulled most of my turnover shots and i think i kept dropping my arm before i released thus making me hyzer at the end(I guess).

-Scott Lewis

greenbeard
Apr 21 2005, 05:50 PM
All hail the Monster.

I don't consider this one a disc, to me it's a tool. It's the best thing for a few holes and situations, and the lazy overhead tomahawk skipshot is usually kept my roc in the bag on long approaches. I mean why putt from 30-50 when I can pickup from 5?

Apr 21 2005, 09:45 PM
This is superstition, but don't look at a tree that you are trying ot miss right before you throw.

I know if I do it, I actually end up hitting the tree.

Apr 21 2005, 11:44 PM
"Whenever you go to the field to practice, pick a line (high hyzer, low hyzer, skip shot, low straight, roller, S-shot, anhyzer) and throw every disc in your bag on each line. That is learn how to force you more overstable stuff to hold an anhyzer, your understable stuff to hold a hyzer and both to hold a straight line. "

Couldn't you develope some bad habits (as a begginner) trying to throw an overstable disc anhyzer. I have a tuff time getting drivers to hold anhyzer...to get overstable drivers like a Firebird I really need to overcompensate (leaning back) and torque the disc through my pull through

Apr 22 2005, 12:19 AM
As long as you're throwing all your discs on the line I wouldn't think you'd develop a bad habbit.

greenbeard
Apr 22 2005, 10:53 AM
But not all discs fly the same...

Apr 22 2005, 04:47 PM
Discs fly how you make them fly. They have different flight properties which makes it easier to make them fly a certain way.

If you can throw understable, stable, and overstable discs on a line you should realize that you are using different technique for each type of disc. Its ok to overtorque a firebird (overstable disc) to keep it on an anhyser line if you realize that is what you are doing. If you throw stable and understable discs on this same line, you aren't overtorquing them, cause if you were you would be drilling them into the ground. Noticing the difference between the needs of an understable disc and an overstable disc to hold the same line helps to give you understanding of the nuances in your throw that control what the disc will do.

discgolfreview
Apr 22 2005, 06:37 PM
Couldn't you develope some bad habits (as a begginner) trying to throw an overstable disc anhyzer. I have a tuff time getting drivers to hold anhyzer...to get overstable drivers like a Firebird I really need to overcompensate (leaning back) and torque the disc through my pull through



it's only really a bad habit if you think that a firebird anhyzer is how every shot should be thrown, the only way you are able to make any disc fly straight, or something you don't even realize is happening :)

Apr 25 2005, 04:57 PM
jacksweather quote: "Today, I started focusing on the orientation of the back of the disc and that has really helped me nail my lines. Anyone else have any advice for little things that help put the disc on the line they want?"

There's a thousand tips you can futz around with to make you more accurate. Ball golf magazines and instructions books can give you some good ideas too.

I just recently have been trying a couple of "tips" similar to your "back of the disc" tip. I've been imagining throwing my disc underwater through the release. Meaning that you want your forearm, hand, and disc to follow in the wake of your upper arm/elbow so it will have less resistance going thru the water. (I habitually swing my forearm too far above the elbow at release in order for wussy me to flip and flex discs and perform certain types of rollers). The reasoning behind the underwater tip/drill is that if all parts of your arm follow the same plane throughout the swing, it will be easier to keep the disc coming out with the proper angle.

Another tip-fad I've been thinking of is where the palm of your hand is pointing to when you snap. If you turn the palm more upwards during the snap, then your disc releases later and will flip more. Palm down is the opposite of course. And palm facing parallel to the ground (neutral) is in-between. Sometimes this adjustment can be a good tactic for tight shots when changing your body or arm angle is not working for whatever reason that day.

Another thing that I might find time to do is to see just how accurate your footwork is. In other words, are your feet on the last 2-3 steps always consistent, in the same angle, toes pointed the same way, same distance from each other, etc. A good idea might be to go to the dirt part of a baseball diamond and sweep/rake 3-6 different throwing zones adjacent to each other and see how consistent your footwork is. The theory being that if your footwork is consistent and precise, it will help the rest of your swing be more consistent and precise. As usual with practice sessions, it's nice to have a buddy help you out with things like marking exactly where your feet were, the angle of release, noticing anything different between throws etc.

Boy if only *I* had a friend :(