I see it's available now in at least one on-line store.

For overstable I throw my Z-Wasp, for insane overstable midrange, I throw my Z-Extreme. Now the Drone (love the stamp) - Drone is similar to (blank) in look and feel.

Talk to me my_hero. Give me the dirt on that disc (and spare me the opening statement that it is the best overstable mid-range disc ever) :p

from what i've read, its kind of like the gator.....though i've never picked a drone up so i wouldn't know.

It is true, the drone is the best overstable mid range driver! This thing is a pig and is great for people with the arm to actually use it. I am not that big of a fan of the wasp because I have a stable buzzz that flies on the exact same line, but the drone will be a great addition to my bag.

I have a proto drone.

It is alot like the gator in terms of stability, it is a pig. But it is much faster and has more glide then the gator. It is also a very thick disc, kinda like the Bulldog, but in the Pro D plastic instead of that gummy stuff the bulldog is made with.

Robert,

I won't say what you asked me not to say, but i will say if you start throwing The Drone you'll have more than "Oneacesofar." :D

Here are some qoutes from our fellow disc golfers:



the new DRONE is very, very overstable. It's like having a Predator for a midrange disc.




To me, the Drone is a re-tooled MRV/MRX that is ridiculously overstable. The 30mph winds this weekend didn't seem to effect it at all.




are the drones only going to be available in D plastic? i got one a couple of weeks ago, and love it, but i'd love it even more in Z plastic since it's already getting beat up...the D plastic seems alot more sturdy than the D buzzz plastic




I threw my proto-Drone [a couple of rounds] in some heavy Colorado Mtn wind yesterday (weather front was blowing in, at about 7000 ft alt., 4 inches of snow this morning). All i can say is that IF it were made of Z plastic it would be SICK! I like it ... but I didn't feel that it was that much more stable than my 177+ Z Wasps. I would like it to be ... and so, in Z plastic it would be a fantastic disc (rather than good disc) in heavy winds. IMO . Oh, btw, the new D plastic is very nice. The trees I tested it on agree, and didn't beat it up much.




The Drone is a very pleasant surprise. When first threw the proto's I didn't forsee a use for that kinda flight. Now that I've gone out to the course and tried it, I find myself going to it for certain shots. The new pro D plastic is the best feeling plastic I've felt in a long while. Try a Drone, you will like!!!!




The drone was part of the players package for world doubles and it is a stable pig, other than the ram i dont know any mids that are more stable than the one i got.




Slightly retooled MRX. OVERSTABLE PIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Keyword...almost, it looks a lot like the MRX but is thicker, taller, and just a pig! It almost has a dead flight to it.




The midrange is super stable. I am really liking it for forehands that have to come back in the 75-150 range.




I just got the new Proto Midrange today and WOW!!!!




This thing is sweet. Thrown flat I cannot get it to flex out, the Z-Wasp flexes so slightly. I do not know of the stability differences between it and the Innova Champion Gator, but this is definately much much much faster. Getting a really good crank on it, I pushed it out to about 320-330, just slightly shorter then my Z-Wasp. I did get it to hold an anhyzer, but that was released at a pretty steep angle and by the time it hit the ground it was barely flat.




Thanks Keith, this disc is awsome! I cannot wait for it to come out in Z plastic.



Hope this helps. I have only thrown about 30minutes worth of practice shots with it. It is extremely stable, and holds a line in heavy winds. It can also handle the force that extremely powerful players throw with. I like it so far. The new Pro-D plastic feels better than ever.

the drone is a retool of the MRX. i wish they would have just learned how to make Z-MRX's as they would have been SWEET :D

I have a proto drone.

It is alot like the gator in terms of stability, it is a pig. But it is much faster and has more glide then the gator. It is also a very thick disc, kinda like the Bulldog, but in the Pro D plastic instead of that gummy stuff the bulldog is made with.



Gator Shmator...it sounds more like a Demon...Gators are flipy compared to Demons and I assume this new Drone too.

Yeah Gators and Drones are flippy.....if you break your wrist on an anhyzer release!

The Drone is the ONLY disc I have not been able to turn over. (I don't throw gators that hard, I use them more as a trick disc). As I mentioned in a prior thread, I got it to hold an anhyzer for about 200ft before it panned out and hit the ground.

Thanks My_Hero

always a source of info. So, I got a 200 foot hole with 40mph blowing into my face, I should play it with the Drone instead of my Z-Extreme?

hOW DO i THROW MY DRONE :confused:

FLAT INTO A HEADWIND!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks My_Hero

always a source of info. So, I got a 200 foot hole with 40mph blowing into my face, I should play it with the Drone instead of my Z-Extreme?



That would be a tough call. I THINK the Drone could handle the situation, but i KNOW the Z-Xtreme would have no problem. Were you able to read in between the lines as to which disc i'd throw in that situation? :D

Throw the Z Xtreme, possibly the best disc ever produced. I have a beat to ***** xtreme and it still flies like the first day I threw it.

Thanks My_Hero

always a source of info. So, I got a 200 foot hole with 40mph blowing into my face, I should play it with the Drone instead of my Z-Extreme?



That would be a tough call. I THINK the Drone could handle the situation, but i KNOW the Z-Xtreme would have no problem. Were you able to read in between the lines as to which disc i'd throw in that situation? :D



It would also depend on the hole. If it's a tunnel shot with those conditions, then probably the Drone. If it's a hole where there is an unlimited ceiling, or enough room on the right or left (RHBH, or RHFH), probably a Z-Xtreme or Z-Pred.

Timmy Gill should me that disc and it looks kinda like a demon but i think it feels a little better in my hand. Good Job Discraft!!!

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Come on, now talk me into buying the new D-Plastic. I only got Discraft Z-Plastic midranges (and a putter) in my bag. And yes, my only ace was with the most awesome Z-Buzzz. But I don't know too much about the D-stuff.

If you tell me the Drone is coming out in Z anytime soon, I am more than happy to wait.

Pro D plastic is as grippy as the good/old Innova DX. However it does not change the stability of the disc much in my experience. I have a D Buzzz and a D Wasp. Both are just as stable as their Z plastic counterparts.

For the money it is a great blend. I have replacements for my Z discs incase it rains.

Kris said that well. Pro-D plastic is also great for wet, or heavy dew mornings/days.

The Drone will not be coming out in Z...the lip of the disc makes the weight too high if they make it in Z plastic.

What about Elite X plastic? Also, I would like to know if the D plastic drone is still more overstable than the z-wasp after it is broken in/extremely worn?

Congrats to Discraft for trying to fill an overstable niche. But it sounds like a midrange that won't go very far. What I really want is an overstable "driving" midrange.

Characteristics:

1. Blunty, but not a fat pig like a gator, bulldog, etc. Like maybe a cross between a MRX and a stratus. Or a storm maybe.

2. Durable. Plastic that won't shed off of trees, cement, etc. Just enough dome to not easily taco/warp; certainly not cyclone/sidewinder/chief domey.

3. Genuinely overstable. More overstable than the Z-wasp or CE rocs. Something that you can snap over with a semi-roller technique and it won't jam into the ground. Something that you can throw anhyzer into swirly winds with confidence that it will come back.

4. But not freakishly "low-distance" overstable. A disc that goes far with good float. Something that, when thrown hard with good anhyzer, will go as far as Zwasps/CErocs do when thrown hard with less anhyzer.

Being a blunt disc, it should hopefully not need a lot of fairway room to flex. Also should not be skipping/skittling far (like most sharp discs) off target or into the shuul after it hits the ground. A bonus would be if it's shaped so that it can be a good forehand roller, something you can hit the ground at maybe 10 degrees off vertical and it will hold the line a long time before flipping.

i think you just described a demon. or a champ whippet or viper

While we're at it I want a disc that I and only I can pump 550' straight in any kind of wind... to everone else it is just crap... that's what I want.. can this new drone do that for me?


ce

While we're at it I want a disc that I and only I can pump 550' straight in any kind of wind... to everone else it is just crap... that's what I want.. can this new drone do that for me?


ce



Sorry Colin. If that's what you want in a mid, then it's not for you. If you are looking for something that will handle the Z's swirling winds, then this mold is for you.

Quote: "i think you just described a demon. or a champ whippet or viper"

Reply:

Demon: the one I had, wayy too overstable and lacks distance, not durable either

Champ Whippet: Not bad, but again, too overstable/not enough float, too sharp, too skippy.

Viper: DX Viper is probably the closest of the three to what I want, but too sharp, too skippy, not durable, takes more room to flex than I'd like. Probably has about the D that I want, but it's been awhile since I thrown them.

Nope, they're all too sharp, don't float enough, and whippets/vipers

Quote: "i think you just described a demon. or a champ whippet or viper"

Reply:

Demon: the one I had, wayy too overstable and lacks distance, not durable either

Champ Whippet: Not bad, but again, too overstable/not enough float, too sharp, too skippy.

Viper: DX Viper is probably the closest of the three to what I want, but too sharp, too skippy, not durable, takes more room to flex than I'd like. Probably has about the D that I want, but it's been awhile since I thrown them.

Nope, they're all too sharp, don't float enough, and whippets/vipers



I have demons that actually turnover for me or fly straight for about 300 feet.

Congrats to Discraft for trying to fill an overstable niche. But it sounds like a midrange that won't go very far. What I really want is an overstable "driving" midrange.

Characteristics:

1. Blunty, but not a fat pig like a gator, bulldog, etc. Like maybe a cross between a MRX and a stratus. Or a storm maybe.

2. Durable. Plastic that won't shed off of trees, cement, etc. Just enough dome to not easily taco/warp; certainly not cyclone/sidewinder/chief domey.

3. Genuinely overstable. More overstable than the Z-wasp or CE rocs. Something that you can snap over with a semi-roller technique and it won't jam into the ground. Something that you can throw anhyzer into swirly winds with confidence that it will come back.

4. But not freakishly "low-distance" overstable. A disc that goes far with good float. Something that, when thrown hard with good anhyzer, will go as far as Zwasps/CErocs do when thrown hard with less anhyzer.

Being a blunt disc, it should hopefully not need a lot of fairway room to flex. Also should not be skipping/skittling far (like most sharp discs) off target or into the shuul after it hits the ground. A bonus would be if it's shaped so that it can be a good forehand roller, something you can hit the ground at maybe 10 degrees off vertical and it will hold the line a long time before flipping.



Go out and try the Blaze from Gateway...sounds like what you are looking for.

i'm diggin the DRONE!

today at Veterans we faced a south/southeast wind, fairly steady in the 15mph range, maybe gusting to 20. my midrange game is usually pretty decent, but the wind was forcing some changes on me.

hole 16 is about 170 feet down a hill, then a very sharp turn to the right. the pin is about 80 feet from the turn point. the left is defined by a couple well placed single trees, the right by a nasty forst that MUST be avoided, and past the turn is some shule that is thick with springtime. the fairway is level for the first 50 feet, then slopes down.

it looks like a lefty hole, and as a lefty i should have some advatange on this one. but the window is really only about 18 inches tall, and a meter wide, and is located right at the point where the hill starts down. that hole must be hit at a precise speed (to avoid overrunning or turning to soon) and flat flat flat. this hole rewards only perfection, slaps the average, and brutalizes the poor.

oh, the fairway faces southeast, directly into todays wind.

i knew my glides wouldnt handle the wind, and had substantial doubts about the z-buzzz. so i tried the drone and geesh, it was sweet! i hit the window just right - flat, less than a foot off the ground, and with what looked like good speed. that drone just held perfectly flat as it cruised down the slope, then slowed and started to turn right on time. it rounded the run, tasted some dirt and skipped to the pan, ending up about a foot past the pin and a meter to the right.

very impressive disc! that throw cemented its position in my bag - i can trust this disc completely, and the plastic feels perfect. with so many midranges out there, discraft is brilliant to not only identify a true void but also fill it with a disc so finetuned for that need. excellant job DISCRAFT, and thanks for the birdie!!!

so i guess the drone IS part of the buzzz/wasp family, as i suspected from the name. (i saw the stamp for the first time this weekend..it has the same wasp character used in the D and X buzzes and wasps, but on the drone it is armor plated and stinging the chains!)

:) i love the drone, but would love it more in X or Z plastic. hopefully they can tweek it so it will be legal in Z.

I have demons that actually turnover for me or fly straight for about 300 feet.



ANYTHING will fly straight if you beat it up or work it in enough :D

Slater Jamie and I used to have a DX Firebird that you could release on a spike hyzer and it would flip over and roll perfectly :eek:

I have thrown the drone a few times, once into a 25 mph headwind and was able to get around 300-330ft with it

I throw champion gators and have been using dx gators for a few years but they are only for windy upshots and special cases. I dont throw much discraft, no brand loyalty really but innova plastic as always felt better in the hand. I have had the occasional wasp here and there but thats about the only disc I have ever enjoyed throwing until the drone.

I probably wont buy many but will keep one in a pocket for those incredibly windy days or when I need a midrange shot that I know will end left.

I remember that firebird. I found a DX eagle in the pond at GW (5 different times actually) that looked like it was ran over by a lawn mower. I threw it on #1 at GW on a vertical hyzer and it flipped over and rolled right past the basket past the fairway of #2.

As for the Drone, I have been using one since BGO and use it all the time. I use it for most of my shorter hyzer shots under 300. Throw it flat or with some slight annie depending on the distance of the hole. It handles the wind no problem even this past weekends snowy 25-35 mph winds. I did some open field practice earlier in the week with my proto and a slightly used regular production Drone to see what distance I could get. Thrown hard with a decent amount of annie into a 10-15 mph wind I got 300-350 out of them. A really stable mid that could handle the wind was the one disc missing from my all Discraft bag. I didn't like the Z-Wasp that much. I love the X-wasp and the Z-Buzz, but neither could handle the wind. Now I have the DRONE!!!

I have two of the Drones in the new grippy D plastic. One says 2 as the stability and the other says 2.5. They look identical and have the same stamp, etc...Does anyone know why this is? Also I don't throw these so if anyone wants to buy them or trade something then send me a PM. Both are new, white and orange.

Mine was not all that stable. Definitely not as stable as a Z-wasp. Guess I got a dud?

The white one is an earlier run. It doesn't have the raised lettering and says 2 for stability. My guess is that after people threw them and gave discraft some input they decided to change it to 2.5

The drone is the best midrange ever released, besides the buzzz. I don't know why so many people only throw them in windy conditions, the drone is great even when it is dead calm.

i'll second that! the drone's stability makes it a super disc for upshot hyzers. i've gone to mine regardless of wind when i need to get out and around trees or other obstacles - and be sure i am coming back. it holds down the strong end of the upshot rack.

any word on whether discraft has worked out the kinks in making the drone in Z plastic?

i love my D-drone but it's getting beat quickly and is approaching z-wasp-ness in overstability now.

any word on whether discraft has worked out the kinks in making the drone in Z plastic?

i love my D-drone but it's getting beat quickly and is approaching z-wasp-ness in overstability now.




I wouldn't worry because it won't ever be in Z along with the Venom. :o

do they make E demons?

Would anyone be able to compare the drone to the Mellenium Q Sentinal MF?

From all the ravings here, I am suddenly afraid that I have ordered the wrong overstable fast midrange disc.

Would anyone be able to compare the drone to the Mellenium Q Sentinal MF?

From all the ravings here, I am suddenly afraid that I have ordered the wrong overstable fast midrange disc.



Q sentinels were my staple before the blaze so i would say you made a good choice.

Matt,
Ups didnt come by on friday, So I guess your, phone bag and hats wont go out until monday.

Matt,
Ups didnt come by on friday, So I guess your, phone bag and hats wont go out until monday.



So Matts back down in Tejas? Did you get my email regarding hats/stuff for Worlds?

:D I like the monkey with the glasses !!!!! :cool:

Z-Drone, please.

Picked up a 168-something Drone yesterday, and won a mini polehole with it today!

At the Jersey Jam between rounds we had a CTP for a mini polehole. Flat 180 foot hole. The guy 2 players before me parks the disc next to the pole.

I got my Z-Buzz, Z-Wasp, Drone, and Z-Extreme handy. We got 3 throws. Throw my Z-Buzz first. Aimed right at the basket good snap didn't throw too hard - just passed the basket. OK, take the Z-Wasp, throw it flat, aim a little to the right of the basket - just passed the basket again.

One shot left. What to throw? Z-Extreme and go really wide? No! The Drone. Flat throw, aimed a little further to the right than with the Z-Wasp. And Ca-Ching - Drilled it. In the basket. What an awesome disc. Get me a Z-Drone anyday, please...


Am I the only one.... All my drivers are innova, my midranges are Discraft. And now I started putting with a Z-Buzz as well.

Once again, the Z-Drone will NEVER exist!
It is a physical impossibility to run any plastic in the Drone mold other than D and have it come out in a legal weight. Venom too.

I am the same way....drivers are all but one (Sabre) Innova, all of my mids are Discraft but one (Roc). I put/up shot with a JK and a Wizard.

But this Drone needs to come to my part of the world. I am loving the Discraft mids. I just haven't had the chance for a Drone out here yet....

Snag a heavy Storm ... then you can leave the Roc at home. lol
I love the Z-Storm!!!

I am the same way....drivers are all but one (Sabre) Innova, all of my mids are Discraft but one (Roc). I put/up shot with a JK and a Wizard.

But this Drone needs to come to my part of the world. I am loving the Discraft mids. I just haven't had the chance for a Drone out here yet....



DEMON!!!! :D :o:D

Once again, the Z-Drone will NEVER exist!
It is a physical impossibility to run any plastic in the Drone mold other than D and have it come out in a legal weight. Venom too.



Yeah, its true...the same reason you don't see any "E" Demons and very few "E" Illusions. (Although they are out there, so if you want a candy Venom, just get the disc that they copied off of...the Illusion!!)

^^^Thread hijacker^^^

To be honest, I have started throwing my Roc less and less....all the discraft mids seem to come out of my hands money stylin'. I really don't know why.

Quick side bar story...I was in a local tournie this weekend throwing like garbage. I decided to stop throwing my drivers and threw a Ace Race Glide off the tee at every hole. I scored 7 strokes better on the back nine in the afternoon this way than I did throwing my normal discs on the back nine in the morning :eek: The course was at elevation (8000 feet above sea level), but who knew the glide could displace my drivers??

Sorry about the thread drift, but you know. I am bored at work.

Oh, one more thing....what does the drone feel like in your hand? What's the rim like (shape, depth, etc.)? Is the plastic as grippy as this D-Buzzz I have sitting next to me?

The feel in my hand seems to be the deciding factor on my mids right now. Who knows, by the end of the season it may change.

Similar to a Wasp, without the bead.
And yes, it's grippy like the D Buzzz.

A wasp without the bead? Isn't that a Buzzz? Is the drone similar in feel to my Buzzz then?

The nose is a little sharper than a buzz (faster), basically the same top as an MRX, just deeper/beefier on the bottom.

Yes, little beefier than the buzzz. The plastic is grippy as can be - great feel. But I am a little concerned that it will beat up too early. Fits nicely into the Discraft mid-range lineup.

Btw, does a CTP "Ace" count as a real Ace? I mean I got 3 shots to a basket that was 180 feet away...and my 3rd one went in. If it counts, then I must retire my Drone anyway, and change my username.



:D

I'd count it, you threw it in from the tee to the hole... that's an ace in my book.

Firstly, I carry both a drone and a demon in my bag. The demon comes out when I have a low cieling and want to take a run at the basket on a hard hyzer. The demon skips WAY better than a drone. I know that if I just aim more to the right than I think I need, the demon is gonna attack the basket.

The drone has better glide than the demon. Last weekend(as in 8 days ago), I was playing match play doubles at George Wilson in South Bend indiana. Hole 18 there is some sickening 600-700 footer off the top of a hill. My partner had the better drive, putting us out about 250 feet. I was looking at the demon at first thinking I could aim wide right and let it skip in to be parked for a Par. I then pulled the drone and decided to run at it. Nice flat/slight nose up release aimed a bit right of the basket, about 50 feet right, 30 feet of air, so a miss wouldn't be too catastrophic, let the disc dive in and catch an edge. Sunk it for a 2 on a VERY tough 2 hole.

The drone seems to love extra air so that it can knife down. Definately not a long gentle hyzer disc for me.

Pat how simialr in shape is your drone to your demon?
Could you tell the difference with your eyes closed?

Pat how simialr in shape is your drone to your demon?



Quite similar. I have 2 demons. One is redish that I got from you with my misstamped wizard box. It is 166 grams and does not have www.gatewaydiscsports.com (http://www.gatewaydiscsports.com) or the patent number on the inside of the flight plate. This is the one I carry in my bag. it is VERY domey. The flight plate slants all the way from the rim to the beginning of the hot stamp. This one has very little glide and is MASSIVELY overstable. The other one is blue, 163 grams and is very flat. It has the patent number and web address on the inside of the flight plate. I have only thrown this one a few times, but it was quite flippy and wouldn't always come back.


Could you tell the difference with your eyes closed?



yes. I was on hole 16 in round 2 of the event saturday, went to pull the drone and accidentally pulled the demon. Before I even had time to take a stance I proclaimed 'What the ****" and alooked at the disc. It was, indeed, the demon.

Comparing the profiles of the Blue Demon and my drone, the drone appears to be a slightly more blunt nose midrange. The redish one, however is more bluntnose than the drone. This explains the substantially different flight paths the 3 discs take.

Anything else?