I had a chance this weekend for a little field practice with some of Discraft's newest molds.

The Venom was a very nice surprise! First thing i noticed was the new Pro-D plastic, grippy and durable. A very nice and subtle change. Being a wide rimmed disc, it flew stable at high speeds, and over stable at slower speeds. I would release it with some anhyzer angle, and had no problem getting it to fly 425' - 450' at about 80% power. It would hold it's angle for quite some time before flexing. It has the speed of the Flick, but the stability would fall somewhere in between the Talon and the Flick. It will be a very nice addition to the fleet.

The best part about the field test was when i asked Texas's only 1000+ rated player to give it a toss. I threw it down to the road on hole #1 at Veteran's and asked him to throw it back. His 1st attempt was a good throw, but the disc's overstability at slow speeds surprised him. His next few throws were incredible. He was throwing it UPHILL from the fence line..... over my head(near the practice basket).......and hitting the wall of the pavillion about 8' up!!!!!!!! He did this a few times!!! Can you say 500' UPHILL! What a mutant.

John, what gives, no props for me! I also threw it over your head. OK, so I was half way up the hill but that shouldn't matter.... :D

That disc and the new Drone should both be added to any bag. Great job Discraft!

Brian

Yikes!

I almost forgot.

I also wanted to see how the disc flew when "tossed :D" by a powerful two-finger artist like Lamoreaux. You may not know him yet, but as his signature says....one day, he's gonna get better. :o

Brian throws the "above the shoulder", powerful, anhyzer two-finger shot. The Venom was able to handle the incredible torque that Mr. BL. produces. :D

Discraft's Venom = Innova's ???

Discraft's Venom = Innova's ???



Orc

At least that is what some one who was throwing it told me was like. He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability.

No....it's more overstable than the orc. Innova will have to produce something like the Venom if you want a better comparison.

Yikes!

I almost forgot.

I also wanted to see how the disc flew when "tossed :D" by a powerful two-finger artist like Lamoreaux. You may not know him yet, but as his signature says....one day, he's gonna get better. :o

Brian throws the "above the shoulder", powerful, anhyzer two-finger shot. The Venom was able to handle the incredible torque that Mr. BL. produces. :D



That's what I'm talkin' about! :D

He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability

ummm... that's a pretty safe statement for 90% of the discs on the market :D

No....it's more overstable than the orc. Innova will have to produce something like the Venom if you want a better comparison.



ok...Starfire

He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability

ummm... that's a pretty safe statement for 90% of the discs on the market :D



LOL.

It's not even close to a Flash. For me, it's in between a Flick and a Talon.




ok...Starfire



What's a starfire? :o

What's a starfire?




$25 worth of $12 plastic.

??? $25.00. Don't the pro line ones cost $10.00. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you post. I realize when you're stuck in you're Gaytway world you may not read threads about Innova.

I would assume Chris was talking about the CFR Starfires, which were the only available Starfire up until not so long ago... they cost 25 dollars every time... and they're the ones probably most comparable to an overstable champion orc, which was the context of which the comparison was being made... :D

He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability

ummm... that's a pretty safe statement for 90% of the discs on the market :D



ummm yeah, I realized what I had posted. That was like saying the disc had the distance of something between a Birdie Putter and a Beast.

But I like Chris's comment about the cost of a Starfire. Really funny. Plus I WOULD pay the extra money for Champion plastic over Pro Line any day.

I would assume Chris was talking about the CFR Starfires, which were the only available Starfire up until not so long ago... they cost 25 dollars every time... and they're the ones probably most comparable to an overstable champion orc, which was the context of which the comparison was being made... :D



Ive paid 25$ for one.The others were 20$.And, they were worth it.

Chris is right on the price of a good candy starfire.
I will have to give this Z plastic a try,
You say it is as fast as a beast/orc/flick but straight like a talon/teebird

I will have to give this Z plastic a try,
You say it is as fast as a beast/orc/flick but straight like a talon/teebird



The "test" mold i have is in the new D plastic blend. I don't think they are available in the Z plastic yet.

Yes, fast like a Flick.

Straight? ....... only at high speeds. Very overstable once it slows down. Nothing like a Teebird.

In between a Talon and a Flick!

Good to know, thanks
If it is that overstable, i am not sure it should be compared to a starfire.
To me starfires are fast like orcs but with straighter flight like a teebird.

What is the rim of the Venom comparable too?

ok, show us a pic

What is the rim of the Venom comparable too?



A Flick, Crush, or Flash.




ok, show us a pic




Will do....tonight....once i get home.

I held the venom this past weekend and it felt simalar to Gateway's S Illusion to me...

I love S plastic so if this disc lives up to it's praise, I might just try one out. Those Illusions are really making me queef right now though.

I can't get enough of those Illusions. If those Venom's are anything like them, Big 2 throwers are going to be in for a treat.

So Discrafts last 2 discs are copies of the Demon and Illusion, I guess thats a compliment. Thanks Jim :D

Profile is same as the FLICK, but slightly deeper (beefier).
When I threw mine at Cranbury, it just disappeared because of it's speed, profile, and time of day.

Any guesses on to when these will be available, I can't wait to put one in my bag.

So Discrafts last 2 discs are copies of the Demon and Illusion, I guess thats a compliment. Thanks Jim :D



If you are saying that the Drone and the Demon are identical then one of us is blind :o. I will admitt to the Drone flying like the original 1st run Demon's.....Super overstable, and very predictable, but they look and feel nothing alike.

I have never seen an illusion, so i'm unsure about that.

Hero, it is today, tomorrow and I don't see pic's :confused:

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let the man eat his weaties ferchrissake

JOhn,
I was only going by what I've been told and Havent actually seen either disc. The source was reliable, but maybe I should've waited until I threw one myself before posting.
BTW,
The comment was meant to be in good fun! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

In case you didnt know we developed our first disc ( the Sabre) as a Hybrid of the cyclone and XL, with a little advise from a local Aerospace instructor at Saint Louis University on a few things!

The "test" mold i have is in the new D plastic blend. I don't think they are available in the Z plastic yet.



I heard from our local Discraft sponsored pro that the new disc will only be made in D plastic. The mold in other plastics produce discs that are too heavy with that wide rim.

JOhn,
I was only going by what I've been told and Havent actually seen either disc. The source was reliable, but maybe I should've waited until I threw one myself before posting.
BTW,
The comment was meant to be in good fun! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

In case you didnt know we developed our first disc ( the Sabre) as a Hybrid of the cyclone and XL, with a little advise from a local Aerospace instructor at Saint Louis University on a few things!



Oh i know it was in good fun. My reply was meant that way as well.

Congrats on picking up JD. You scored heavily there. I'll see him this weekend, and i'll ask to see his illusion. From the sounds of it, it could be a close match. Take care. :cool:

You're right. Same with the Drone.

JD is a great guy and golfer! Unless someone is throwing putters at his eye!!http://www.kansasdiscgolf.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif

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He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability.



So you mean like between a Sidewinder and a Firebird ?



It also has the distance somewhere between an Aviar and a Beast /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

He said it was inbetween the Flick and the Flash in stability.



So you mean like between a Sidewinder and a Firebird ?



It also has the distance somewhere between an Aviar and a Beast /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



SIMPLY AMAZING! I am holding a spot in my bag just for a disc like that. I will put it in my bag JUST BECAUSE IT IS NEW, and other ppl said it is great!

simply, amazing!

Too bad you are not being sarcastic...

Aye, tis a shame.

Ryan,

I think you'll like this disc, being the Pred lover that you are. It's like a nicely seasoned Pred. Stable at high speeds, OVERstable at slow speeds. Amazing, simply amazing. :D

Yes, from what I have heard thus far, I'm sure I will enjoy the disc, I was more making a sarcastic shot at the "it's new, everyone HAS to have one their bag!" type of attitude.

I just get annoyed at hype sometimes, but I am looking forward to throwing this disc. However, no matter what, if they don't make it in a candy plastic, I won't find any use for it other than playing around with in a field.

I'm still having too much fun with my Tsunamis!

Hero, it is today, tomorrow and I don't see pic's :confused:





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Man you must have a lot of cash with you flaunting the quarter around like that. :D:D

Speaking of quarters, it looks like the quarter K 2 me.

Speaking of quarters, it looks like the quarter K 2 me.



Main differnece is this wasn't in development for years :D

Speaking of quarters, it looks like the quarter K 2 me.



Main differnece is this wasn't in development for years :D


like your game :o:o

If you go to bowling green you will get one of these discs in your player packs.

If you go to bowling green you will get one of these discs in your player packs.



What!! I tried to order those yesterday and they said it would be another month until they were released.

What!! I tried to order those yesterday and they said it would be another month until they were released.



Yes another month untill they are released to stores to be sold but we already got one in the players pack for the Memorial as well so if we get them in BG i will have 4 of them in my possesion. 2 Test runs and 2 Prototypes :D

What!! I tried to order those yesterday and they said it would be another month until they were released.



Yes another month untill they are released to stores to be sold but we already got one in the players pack for the Memorial as well so if we get them in BG i will have 4 of them in my possesion. 2 Test runs and 2 Prototypes :D



I'm suffering from a bit of disc envy steve. If you beat me in BG, I think you should give me a brand new disc for consolation, or something. Oh, and u still owe me a beer.

Speaking of quarters, it looks like the quarter K 2 me.



Main differnece is this wasn't in development for years :D


like your game :o:o



Nah, my game has been in development for many years, and it's just not getting any better, but i'm fine with that

Hello Everyone,

The Venom is now PDGA Approved and legal for tournament play. Look for them in the Bowling Green Am Championships players package this weekend and at your local disc golf retailer the first week of April.

Love that new Pro D plastic Keith. It does beat up like it should, but oh so grippy!!!!

Looks like I will now be taking a Flick a Venow AND a Drone down to Bowling Green to beat the wind. Good work on the new plastic and the new discs. Im loving them. Now when can I expect a D Pred??? Now THAT would be SICK. Are you guys going to be making the Wasp in the new D Plastic???