Fellow Disc Golfers, I am a poor disc golfer who truly enjoys the luxury of a dyed disc and also the ability to express myself through my own artwork. In the past several weeks I have contacted every manufacturer of dyed discs and custom hotstamps to ask how they do it. Well, Needless to say, the general census were "nay-sayers." And understandably so, since they are only out to make a buck off the few of us that play the game. The only one i got any feedback from was The Disc Diva of http://www.discdiva.com Thank you Diva. U are awesome.
Her Reccomendation was to use Rit Dye and Soap
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Ingredients so far that i have been allerted to:
*RIT Dye (This dye can be bought in any grocery storeBut lacks a lot of colors)
*Soap was an ingredient (not sure what kind)
*Stencil of your pattern or picture that you want
*Spike-It� Dip 'N Glow Plastic Lure Dye and Spike-It� Dye Neutralizer (this can be found by searching Dye at Bass Pro Shops (http://www.basspro.com) (these dyes are very colorful)
The process, and believe me this is no exact science to me. This is strictly from research and not practice; is to bring the dye / syrum to a boiling temperature and either paint it on to a disc yourself OR Use a Stencil for specific designs and
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I also read somewhere in a <font color="red"> similar article about Dying Lacross sticks </font> , which i must say are much denser and less accepting of dye than disc plastic.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION ON DYES PLEASE POST HERE OR EMAIL ME AT
[email protected]
my_hero
Mar 14 2005, 01:42 PM
It's pretty much spelled out here. It takes some deciphering, and a lot of practice, but it's all here.
http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=223311&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1
THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE PLEASE KEEP SENDING INFORMATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO LEARN TECHNIQUES.
The following will dye Innova DX or CE plastic. Please note DX does not die with clear sharp lines:
<font color="red"> 1 DX white disc or CE clear or white.
1 pack RIT Dye
2 Quarts 170 degree water (this is about 4X the concentration on the RIT instructions usually they say 2 Gallons of water)
1 Tbsp (Table Spoon) of Liquid Laundry detergent
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<font color="purple">1. Mix Dye, Hot water, Salt and Detergent. Heat water to 170 degrees (It does not have to boil or be boiling)
2. Apply stencil etc to disc.
3. Put Disc in mix for 10 min.
4. Rinse with water.
5. Repeat 3-5 until dye is as dark as you want it.
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You should end up with an even color however the DX plastic does not allow for a sharp line between patterns.
gnduke
Mar 14 2005, 06:57 PM
The dying of a disc is an artform, and the artist should get something for the hours of work that he/she puts into the job.
A couple of dollars per disc is not adequate compensation for some of the very good artwork I've seen out there.
Do you use a grease pen or a tape on stencil? Do you cover the parts that you do not want dyed? Does the extreme heat of the mixture warp or change the characteristics of the disc?
Do NOT use heat! Everything you need to know is right here........
http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=223311&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1
A little deciphering, and a lot of practice will yield great results!!!
Do you use a grease pen or a tape on stencil? Do you cover the parts that you do not want dyed? Does the extreme heat of the mixture warp or change the characteristics of the disc?
3M blue or green masking tape works well when stenciling or making simple designs:
3M Masking Tape Information (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/manufacturing_industry/specialty_tapes/node_GS7GPWJ4L4be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSNYTMLW46ge/gvel_GSQM6PQZX9gl/theme_us_specialtytapes_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html)
170 degrees is not really extreme heat. The plastics used for discs appear to be int the plastic family of HDPE - high density polyethylene, or PVC - polyvinyl chloride (vinyl) plastics. These plastics have a melt point somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 degrees. Additionally their deflection temperatures are 200+ degrees. That is why you must be carefully about boiling (212 degrees) temperatures.
You can look at
http://www.machinist-materials.com/comparison_table_for_plastics.htm
for more info on plastics of all types
drdyedcom
Mar 14 2005, 07:41 PM
I think I will chime in here :D
Well, I dont remember getting any email from you, but I would have probably directed you to this webpage, specifically the first time dye thread. However I feel for most of the "tye dyed" discs out there, are not to expensive, and think they should be priced more. I dont think lowering the prices on tye dyed discs will really attract more players to the sport.
As far as custom dye artists like myself, most of my techniques have been self taught and have taken alot of my time and $$ trying to figure out what works best. So on that end, I dont think we should give up our secrets. And I definatly think custom dyed discs should come with a higher price tag, because it's not just a tye dyed disc, it is art. Something someone has put some time and effort into, not just splash on some dye and spin it. Dont get me wrong spin art is cool, but the time comparison in a spin art tye dye and a custom dyed disc is night and day. I could pump out probably hundreds of spin art discs in any given day, but I prefer to take my time and put my own touch into every disc I dye. Thats my opinion anyway.
However, I feel where your coming from, and I have a brand new product that will be coming to Ebay this week that will allow you to find what your looking for. I too was there, in your shoes once trying to figure out how all this is done, so I have been working hard for the last few months on coming up with a product that will fit your needs!!! Just hold tight for a few more days while I finish up all that I need to before I release this product to the world. I dont really want to say to much more about it now....But keep on watching I will post a link to it when it is posted!!!
greenbeard
Mar 14 2005, 07:56 PM
INTRODUCING GB's white-trash dye kit!
1. Sharpie.
2. Roll of electric tape.
3. can of lukewarm coors extra gold.
WARNING: do not eat sharpie.
INTRODUCING GB's white-trash dye kit!
1. Sharpie.
2. Roll of electric tape.
3. can of lukewarm coors extra gold.
WARNING: do not eat sharpie.
Can you eat the other 2?
I agree with the Doctor and feel I must chime in. I opted not to vote B/c I found all I needed to know on the link mentioned before, but the hours it's taken me to work on some discs is almost what gives the disc its own meaning. I dont sell discs that I dye, but will always enjoy trades and such. I think that with some patience and a few ugly attempts anyone can enjoy dyeing their own for fun and/or profit. I throw a lot more champ plastic now that I'm experimenting with new discs and it's cool to walk up to a parked disc with your own design.
Try this: Put your contact paper on your disc OPPOSITE of the design you want. Then rub vaseline along the edges of your design. Next, carefully peel the contact paper off, making sure not to smudge your vaseline lines. Now you can dye without fear of bleeds. This works great, even with acetone dyes.
greenbeard
Mar 15 2005, 01:25 PM
INTRODUCING GB's white-trash dye kit!
1. Sharpie.
2. Roll of electric tape.
3. can of lukewarm coors extra gold.
WARNING: do not eat sharpie.
Can you eat the other 2?
I wouldn't suggest it, it makes your poop look funny
I think we misunderstand each other when i say prices should be lowered. "Spin Art" which is nothing more than a mass manufactured gimmick should not be so expensive. I think Spin Art should come standard if you are going to be paying 12-14 bucks per disc. However, for actual custom dying and artwork type dyes, which is what you do more of, i think your artwork should be sold at the price of artwork. not that of a disc.
widiscgolf
Mar 15 2005, 02:17 PM
Well there is still time and material involved with spin art, so the extra $2 that Innova and other companies charge is fine.
drdyedcom
Mar 16 2005, 11:27 PM
Well, here it is for all of you to use and enjoy :D
Follow this link(near the bottom of page on link) to the ebay thread on this discussion page to check out the listings...
Ebay thread alert link to NEW DR DYE PRODUCTS!!! (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=337990&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=96&vc=1&PHPSESSID=)
I hope this can be of some assistance!!! Go buy your kit and you will have everthing you need to know!!!
Have fun with it :D
drdyedcom
Mar 17 2005, 10:18 PM
I made an error when listing these items!!!
Well, here it is for all of you to use and enjoy :D
Follow this link(near the bottom of page on link) to the ebay thread on this discussion page to check out the listings...
Ebay thread alert link to NEW DR DYE PRODUCTS!!! (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=337990&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=96&vc=1&PHPSESSID=)
I hope this can be of some assistance!!! Go buy your kit and you will have everthing you need to know!!!
Have fun with it :D
However I have relisted them they way they should be goto this thread for the new links...
Ebay thread alert PDGA near bottom of page!!! (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=338841&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=114&vc=1&PHPSESSID=)
Sorry for the confusion :confused:
Good Luck!!!
bruce_brakel
Apr 05 2005, 11:15 PM
Because I don't have a digital camera I'm using a scanner and these look a little strange. You can see them in real life at UWParkside and IOS #1 in a couple of weeks. Go to the link to see what I'm talking about and go to page 6 of the thread.
http://discontinuum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=897&st=100&
drdyedcom
Apr 06 2005, 03:40 AM
Those look sweet Bruce :D
I look forward to seeing them at the IOS #1!!!