DISConcepts is proud to announce the opening of a new course in Wilmington, North Carolina!
Inland Greens golf course has opened their doors and fairways to disc golf and ready for disc to start flying. Inland Greens is an 18-hole “ball” golf course situated in a mid-size housing community but open to the public. For now the disc golf course plays the front 9-holes of the existing golf course, but if there is a positive response they will most likely allow me to set up all 18 holes! The course is outfitted with Discatcher Pro baskets and will have grass tees for now with Launch Pad rubber tee pads to come. We don’t have the “official” measurements yet, but the course will play about 3200’+ for the front nine. Water is featured on every hole!
Greens fees will be $4.00 for 9 holes and $6.00 for 18 holes or $10 to play all day. In addition we are putting together an introductory 6 month “play all you want” for $75 dollars. The 6-month pass will also include 2 custom stamped Inland Greens Innova discs. The discs have not been stamped yet but should be available soon. I will add the course to the PDGA course directory soon!
Inland Greens is located at 5945 Inland Greens Dr. in Wilmington, NC. To find the course take Market Street to Cardinal Drive (turn at the Volvo car dealership) go down Cardinal about � mile and turn left on Inland Greens Dr. Stay to the left and park at the small club house. For additional information give them a call at 910-452-9900 or call me (Pat Farrell) at 864-270-3723 NOW GO PLAY!

Sweet..sounds great and I will have to make a trip to it when I finally get down to the Port City to play Castle for the first time...wish it had been there when I was getting married..would have made a fun batchelor outing...

I just went and checked it out...It looks nice, double chained Discatchers all shiny and brand new. Should be a nice compliment to the Castle.

way to go DEP! DEP! DEP!

I will be coming down 2morrow to check it out. Any one interested in playing meet me there around 10:45.

Sorry, left out their website! www.inlandgreens.com (http://www.inlandgreens.com) Look for disc golf info to be added soon!

Let's get a low score to beat posted.

I think ALDuBBs shot a -2.
Well Done and I played 5 rounds and never broke par.

"I'll show you where the line is"

-2
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+2
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-1 for the day.. The course is super fun, watch out for Ol Bernard Grumpypants on 6 tee pad. He might be packin'.

I think ALDuBBs shot a -2.




What is Par? The current reality of disc golf is that there are no universal recognized standards for par. I no longer use the terms "par", "birdie", "bogey"... because these have no meaning in disc golf.

When you talk about a "-2" I assume that you mean a 52, based on a standard of "54= par" (i.e.- "all holes are par 3"). But this is a totally bogus idea.

Ok
but that's how I keep score on EVERY course...

What is Par? The current reality of disc golf is that there are no universal recognized standards for par. I no longer use the terms "par", "birdie", "bogey"... because these have no meaning in disc golf.



The lack of universal standards means nothing. For the number of courses you've played Lowe, you should have a very good idea of what a pro par three, pro par four, or pro par five hole and what a corresponding eagle, birdie, par, bogey, double bogey, etc. would equate to. While these pars may not be listed on the tee signs (amazingly, the antiquated Ed Headrick pars are still finding their way onto tee signs) most course pros will be happy to provide you with a scorecard or Excel spreadsheet with pro pars listed. Failing that, anyone who has played for as long as you have and as many courses as you have should instantly be able to recognize what the pro par on a hole is simply by playing it.

I don't think Lowe has had the chance to play this course since it was installed on Sat. I have and always will play everything a 3. With exception to a number of champion courses in the area, i believe most players play 54 as par on thier courses. I know Lowe is formulating ratings for all the courses he plays, but I will be the first to tell you this is a par 54 course, at 3200 feet for the front and four trees in your way, it's a 54.

GoTTa love new courses in NC.

The lack of universal standards means nothing. For the number of courses you've played Lowe, you should have a very good idea of what a pro par three, pro par four, or pro par five hole and what a corresponding eagle, birdie, par, bogey, double bogey, etc. would equate to.



Jeff, actually I don't really know what Pro par is on some holes. Do you mean a Gold level pro or a Blue level pro? (to be simplistic, Player Ratings: Gold = 1000, Blue = 950, White = 900, Red = 850) Since I'm a White level player (PR ~910) I don't have that great an idea of what a pro should be able to do.

Then there's the issue of the competing standards for defining par. Is par related to SSA or is it based on the number of shots to reach the basket (1 for par 3, 2 for par 4...), or is it based on another number of shots to reach the basket (1.3 for par 3, 2.3 for par 4...)?

[For a much wider discussion of these matters see the thread "What is Par?"]


...most course pros will be happy to provide you with a scorecard or Excel spreadsheet with pro pars listed.



But most course pros have not used any consistent or universal standards to determine par (mainly because there are none) so anything they say has little meaning. On top of that most course pros use the unrealistic "everything is a par 3" anyway.

...I have and always will play everything a 3...



So at Castle Hayne do you play hole 8 (700 ft, S shaped, in the woods) as a par 3? If so you've got an amazing game. I wonder how many 3s Climo would get there, or how many Schweberger has gotten on that hole. And what about hole 11? I don't know the par at Castle Hayne but it most certainly IS NOT 54.

And then there's Renaissance Original and Gold in Charlotte, not to mention Winthrop Gold, or even Buckhorn (in New Hill NC) from the long tees.

...Failing that, anyone who has played for as long as you have and as many courses as you have should instantly be able to recognize what the pro par on a hole is simply by playing it.



Jeff,
I can usually recognize many par 3s although some should certainly be par 2s. I have a harder time with long holes whether they should be par 3, 4, 5, or even 6.

...I have and always will play everything a 3...



So at Castle Hayne do you play hole 8 (700 ft, S shaped, in the woods) as a par 3? If so you've got an amazing game. I wonder how many 3s Climo would get there, or how many Schweberger has gotten on that hole. And what about hole 11? I don't know the par at Castle Hayne but it most certainly IS NOT 54.

And then there's Renaissance Original and Gold in Charlotte, not to mention Winthrop Gold, or even Buckhorn (in New Hill NC) from the long tees.

Castle Payne = Par 64. Hole 8 has only been 3'd 2 times in the history of the Payne. Bond, and IJAR, both TT.

I've played ball golf at inland greens before, back in 02 or 01. We stayed at a condo on the 17th teepad. We actually had a keg on the back porch and carried around a few pitchers. That place is the HEAT. I always thought it would be a great place for a fly 18 style disc golf course. Beautiful par 3 course, can't wait to ckeck it out. For ball golf I only carried two wedges and a putter. Methinks I'll need to grab a few drivers for the disc experience. I'll be down there soon. One of you Port boys will have to escort us Gville players.

New idea, how about a disc/ball golf challenge. Any one who ever played ball golf can compete at Inland greens.

Jolly...as an avid former BALL golfer I thought the same thing, a round of 18 DISC followed by an 18 of BALL. There is only one problem, the disc course is 20 times better than the dog track they call a par three golf course. I saw 300 foot spike hyzers that couldnt even dent the greens yesterday, hard as a rock. Oh well, I think it suits DG better, but the elderly folks around might not take it as well.

...both TT.



Brian,
I've got to show my ignorance. What does TT mean?

Lowe

TT stands for Team Trim

last time i played there the greens were like cardboard... only bumpier. i was fairly toasted, and personally hit at least 5 houses. i know, at least for me, that the tenants would have less to worry about with me throwing a disc rather than hitting a golf ball.

also, the discroast does a ball golf/disc golf challenge every year. i believe its in october.

I have been wondering that for a year now. I was too scared to ask. :)

TT stands for Team Trim



Thank you. Now, what does "Team Trim" mean?

Lowe, I think that "54" became the benchmark we use in disc golf is this:

A beginner and a pro step up to a 300 foot hole. The beginner might say it is a par 4. The Pro will say it is a par 3.

The whole Blue/Gold/Red/Purple thing gets confusing to a person that doesn't know what those colors mean.

We just say the course is par 54 so we can have a idea of how we did compared to others on a different day. But in the long run it is still....fewest throws wins.

I know Lowe is formulating ratings for all the courses he plays, but I will be the first to tell you this is a par 54 course.



My "Difficulty ratings" are based on how hard it is for a White level player (like me) to shoot par. They are NOT based on how hard it is to shoot 54. For eample, to fairly evaluate the difficutly of Castle Hayne you have to rate in relation to par, not how hard it is to shoot 54. There is just no way that par at Castle Hayne is 54. If it is par 64 then you will evaluate your score very differently.

In order compare the difficulty of different courses you have to have some measure of par. I have developed a method for determining par which is SSA based, but I'm still not even sure of the best way to define par. Disc golf is currently in what I call a "Judges" situation. In the Bible, Judges 21:45 says that every person did was right in their own eyes. (This is also classic post-modernism.) That pretty much describes the current state of disc golf in relation to the concept of par.

Most people I know use the par 54 designation only to keep track of score mentally in your head. And since for a long time most courses WERE par 54, it made a lot of sense. Even nowadays as pro par increases above 54, it's still easier to reference par 54 to keep track of score in your head. However as pro par moves upwards of 66,68 etc. I have found that the use of a scorecard becomes necessary. Using a scorecard really isn't all that more labor intensive and gives disc golf a more "official" feeling, in my book.

Anyone that actually believes that all disc golf courses are par 54, even the high WCP courses such as the USDGC course, doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.

To answer some of your other points, Lowe, I have found that the par difference betwen a 950 player and a 1000 player is negligible, and someone like yourself who has played for many years and hundreds of courses should be able to determine pro par on a hole. That you're rated 910 shouldn't mean that you can't make that determination. Are you even trying to assess pro par as you play? Does your determination match up with the pro pars which others have come up with? I think that if you gave it a try, you would find that it's not so difficult. With a little practice, you may eventually even recant your statement that par has no meaning in disc golf.

Inland Greens is PAR 27 for the front 9 holes. I gave some thought to calling hole #7 a par 4 (550’)+but decided to leave it as a tough par 3.
I am highly considering allowing “ball” golfers to play in the Harbor View Challenge June 11th and 12th but I am still working on the logistics. As of right now you would have the choice of playing in any of the regular disc golf divisions, but in addition to that I would also be allowing a division that would use your 3 best rounds on the course (you choose you clubs or discs)! 2 disc golf and 1 ball golf, 2 ball golf 1 disc golf whatever? Are there people that would play in this division? There is also a sweet putt-putt course onsite so we could throw that in as well! Sorry for the lack of information about the event, I am working on the flyer but want to be sure I release the correct information. Look for the flyer soon. I will say this. The event will be family friendly, with hotel and pool onsite, mini-golf, close beach proximity, many close restaurants…. I'm hoping to have a distance competition under the lights on the driving range but am still working on the details.
Pat Farrell

I think #7 is a par 3.
I played 5 times and my longest puTT was 10 feet.

...I gave some thought to calling hole #7 a par 4 (550�)+but decided to leave it as a tough par 3...




Inland Greens hole 7 sounds like a good example of some of the problems with par, and it may make a good case study. Would you please tell me the elevation change from tee to green and whether it is flat, up, or down? Also, would you please assign this hole a "Trouble Factor" from 1-9 using this scale for foliage: 1. None, 2. Sparse, 3. Scattered, 4. Stands, 5. Average, 6. Woodsy, 7. Corridor, 8. Tighter, 9. Pinball. Are there any OB and water carries? These increase the factor to give the trouble factor. To help with this which number best fits the amount of foliage? Then, are there any OBs or shots over water on this hole?

I look forward to getting this information.

Lowe

There is a large white object in the middle of the green with a flag on it. Watch out for that, it comes into play.

I would like to thank Pat for taking all the steps needed for this course, personally it offers a much needed break from the woods and offers great diversity to our disc golf scene.

Pat if you are ever in the area please PM me or any of the locals so we can play and discuss the second nine, which in my mind will be sooner than later. Also the 75$ for six months thing, will this be finalized?

THanks,
Adam Weaks
21170

Thanks Adam!
Anyone wishing to contact me personally about the Inland Greens course, feel free to send an email to [email protected] or call 864-270-3723. I will do my best to answer your questions. As someone had mentioned in an earlier post… There may be some residents that may seem “grumpy” about disc golf here at the start. This is however pretty new to them and their homes line the fairways. It is VERY important to respect people’s yards (area within 30’ of the houses) and to leave discs that might have found themselves clearly in someone else’s space. Remember to mark your discs well with your contact information and look for lost, sunk, stray, and forgotten discs to find their way back to the clubhouse!
Yes! The Introductory 6-month pass for $75 is available now, and can be purchased from the clubhouse at Inland Greens (ask for Andrew). The custom stamped discs (2 sweet full color Innova discs that are included with the deal) will not be finished until April 15th! But people can purchase the pass to play golf and I will ship the discs on or before April 15th. This is really a great deal and an opportunity for disc golfers to show their support of the new course.
Also if you know of a school that might be interested in having a disc golf education program hosted by Inland Greens and DISConcepts, we will be setting up a series of programs for the months of May and June that will focus on beginner and youth group disc golfers.
Pat Farrell

TT stands for Team Trim

WORD

TT stands for Team Trim



Thank you. Now, what does "Team Trim" mean?



It's all about TTru Realness...

TT stands for Team Trim



Thank you. Now, what does "Team Trim" mean?



It's all about TTru Realness...

Word to the C_DOT_P

WERD DOOD

TT stands for Team Trim



Thank you. Now, what does "Team Trim" mean?



It's all about TTru Realness...

Word to the C_DOT_P



Gotcha. It's totally clear now.

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Pat
do you have measurements for all the holes?

Thanks..

Thanks for the info. Looking forward to playing this course.

550 is no 3 or 4 it is called half par bad design.Why dont the courses want your pads :confused:?And why do my courses call me and ask if I am doing a course in the carolinas. :mad:Use your own refrences.I am starting to regrind tee pads and make condoms for car buffs ,will you help me market them under the name DIKCONCEPTS :eek: :D

550 is no 3 or 4 it is called half par bad design.Why dont the courses want your pads :confused:?And why do my courses call me and ask if I am doing a course in the carolinas. :mad:Use your own refrences.I am starting to regrind tee pads and make condoms for car buffs ,will you help me market them under the name DIKCONCEPTS :eek: :D



Um...WTF....get out of here Reese

DISConcepts is proud to announce they have been chosen to be the “Official” tee pad of the 2005 Pro World’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Stop by our booth at the FlyMart to check out the product or throw from the LAUNCH PADS during the distance competition. We are super excited that so many of the MAJOR events along with new and upgrading courses have made the CHOICE in purchasing the DISConcepts rubber tee pads. We make your new course installation a breeze! Not popular with other rubber tee pad businesses, but who cares! Give us a call and find out why!
Pat Farrell

I think #7 is a par 3.
I played 5 times and my longest puTT was 10 feet.


WORD! I was there.

550 is no 3 or 4 it is called half par bad design.Why dont the courses want your pads :confused:?And why do my courses call me and ask if I am doing a course in the carolinas. :mad:Use your own refrences.I am starting to regrind tee pads and make condoms for car buffs ,will you help me market them under the name DIKCONCEPTS :eek: :D



Reese I'll make this as simple as I can so even you can understand it. Carolina doesn't want you. Try bringing it here and we'll deliver it back to you 10 fold.

Anyone can do what you do for a fraction of the costs that you're charging. It's time for a new vision. Get the Concept?

:D

:D



That's it?? No snappy "my way or no way" comeback?? I would really have expected more from the self proclaimed savior of disc golf.

Maybe just maybe some things are staring to get through that thick skull of yours. lmfao yeah right. :D

i was wondering why fly pads aren't on disclandings web site - I understand now

and fyi - I played a Reese Fly 18 (Sarasota) and it was at best decent - very boring and nothing like I expected.

All I did for 14 holes - Throw hard - oops I missed my line by 30 feet, but it doesn't matter - its a big field - thats not golf - thats frisbee

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That is some funny shtuff. The GuTT--hilarious. I thought Ed's nickname was "I see blue."

That club name is a tough sell when it comes to recruiting women. Schweberger told me that the initiation for the club is rough, and it itches for days!

OK let's get back to the thread topic, INLAND GREENS. Finally played it last night with Rory & D.P. Great setup with lots of potential. Tee-shots are open but the baskets are well guarded or perched near a pond or O.B. road. Look for the alternate disc golf tee areas are marked by little orange flags which aren't always near the ball golf tees. Most holes have 2 sets already with many other options. The price to play has already increased, $5 for 9/$8 for 18 which was sneaky. Pat, you will get some memberships from us locals, the back nine is begging for baskets. #10,#14,#18 are the best on the whole course. I see a potential A-tier there in the future. Keep in touch.

No more all you can play?

Yes they still have the $10 play all day deal, I was thinkin of weekdays when some of us can't get out there till after 4:00 or so. Or people that don't play often.

10 bucks all day is a pretty good deal. Definetly looking foward to that tourney. Any dates? Next week is spring break up here at ECU. I'll probably come down with a few GV golfer late in the week. With 18 at Inland and the monster that is the Payne, Wilmington could host one helluva tourney in the coming years. Great to see DEP golf really coming along.

Any sanctioned events there would have to go thru DiscConcepts, so that's up to Pat. I was just dreaming when I said A-tier. We will certainly try to have a monthly there in the future, we can use skillshots/sports on the back nine for now. Let's give the course some time to settle in and the "official" tee areas to be more defined.

Carolina doesn't want you.



Easy there big fella, you don't speak for all of North Carolina.

Carolina doesn't want you.



Easy there big fella, you don't speak for all of North Carolina.



but most of us

OK let's get back to the thread topic, INLAND GREENS. Finally played it last night with Rory & D.P. Great setup with lots of potential. Tee-shots are open but the baskets are well guarded or perched near a pond or O.B. road. Look for the alternate disc golf tee areas are marked by little orange flags which aren't always near the ball golf tees. Most holes have 2 sets already with many other options. The price to play has already increased, $5 for 9/$8 for 18 which was sneaky. Pat, you will get some memberships from us locals, the back nine is begging for baskets. #10,#14,#18 are the best on the whole course. I see a potential A-tier there in the future. Keep in touch.



is it lit for night golf????????

No..

are u jewing me?

I played this course while in college as a par tthree, cant wait to revisit the IG. i remmber the terrain, and i'm interestted in seeing the water shot placements. man i sure miss that coasttal area. keep up the work ILM.

Iman i sure miss that coasttal area.


Then come to the Azalea Tournament!

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is it lit for night golf????????

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Inland Greens is a condo type community built around the course so I doubt it'll ever have lights.

Good answer K-Nappa. Tatersak, Simma, Supa, Jake and the rest of the High Point crew are you coming? Come one come all!

baskets?????????

9 baskets

I am surprised Reesey Cup hasn't been on this thread yet.

His ******* (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=331737&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=5&vc=1) has been on here...

;) I have not talked to anyone that has played my courses and his, but this week i got a report.Apples and oranges pat is building park courses on golf courses ie no tee pads,no scorecards,no distance,no pro shop,no looking back.There is a steve miller song that comes to mind GO ON TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN HOO HOO.My friend said he would never play this course again the 18 hole par 54 he had to make up his own tee area.Some lovely home depo flags like at the MEMORIAL.. :oThe lady at the pro shop knew nothing she told him to tee from an elevated 4'x4 box he said it was not big enough to tee from she said sure it is, we tee from there???? :confused: I did get to talk to the owner of 2 of pats courses and he said they are doing poorley ,and if sales dont pick up in 3 months he may remove it.I gave him a few ideas that may help increase rounds.Now on to his tee pads, I got my samples last week 1/2" this is cheap crap.I ripped into little pieces 1" this is a low grade product.I bent it in half and watched it pull apart.My 3/8'will last longer. I sent it to my facility to have it tested.Like an Earl Sheib paint job, Ill paint your car for 99 dollars.Quality never goes out of style FLY 18 ;)

Whatever....Bottom line is Wilmington now has another course, Pat created it for us and we are grateful. I've never met him, but I thank him. What have you done for us? You need baskets for a course.

so $8 for nine holes, sounds like a ript off. when they get 18, holla

10$ = play all day.....4$ per 9. FUN open course.

My friend said....



LMFAO Like you have a friend.

Since you're so quick to criticize let's take at look at what Fly 18 has accomplished. You've got courses being pulled as fast as you can swindle another one in. You talked of "changing the venue, changing the game" however you have yet to pull in one major sponsor or the lucrative television deal. There was talk of a Fly 18 tour. Another joke. You claim to be a "course designer" yet recent studies at the University of Berkely have shown that even the most simple primate can put up a basket and think they actually designed something. You take the hard work of others and try to claim it as your own.

The only thing you have accomplished in your 7 year venture is to sell some snake oil to a few 9 hole ball golf courses while pissing off most of those who might have supported you. Nice move.

And I've done some homework on Fly 18 as well. A course owner sent me a copy of the contract you had him sign.


Giv me moni and eye put in disk golph corse. sine heer.__________

At least "huked on foniks werked 4 sum1".

And I've done some homework on Fly 18 as well. A course owner sent me a copy of the contract you had him sign.


Giv me moni and eye put in disk golph corse. sine heer.__________

At least "huked on foniks werked 4 sum1".



Sounds like Reese is speaking a dialect of Pootietangese...Sine yo pinny on tha runny kine x____________

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Rick you obviously know nothing about f18.I have never been asked to remove a course by a gm or owner.I only have 1... 9 hole course and it has a 36 hole layout with 2 baskets and pro and am tees on every hole.You can read the quote from Harrold Duvall on my 9 hloe course he said I did an awsome job on the course with distance and design.I wont spend much time with you, because you are one of the 85% of disc golfers that I did not expect to get, so no loss :eek:.5 ....18 hole courses and one 9 hole you need to do more homework start on the math part :D

Spacecoast, Houston and I have done my homework. 2 of your other courses are bringing in alot lower numbers then you projected. These have not been pulled yet put are in danger of being yanked within the year.

Any comment on the big sponsorship, national television deal or the long anticipated Fly 18 tour that you've been promising for years?

Just want the facts Reese, not your spin on them.

Please take this off-line to private messaging or e-mails, guys.

Thanks.

Maybe Pat will let you do the back nine at Inland Greens with your mats, that would be an interesting comparison right there on the same course. We just want the baskets.

I definitely would rather have discatchers than those fly 18 baskets.

Both of those courses are gone a long time ago Houston 1 year spacecoast 3 years ago.Get your facts right...as jeff said if you want to email me you can find out the facts. ;)

I definitely would rather have discatchers than those fly 18 baskets.



I would rather have Mach 1's rather than those fly 18 baskets

After a very positive response from the installation on the first 9 holes at Inland Greens just 2 months ago. DISConcepts is excited to announce that I will be installing targets on the back 9 holes as well! This will be happening in the next few weeks, and I will post here when the work is complete. Thanks to everyone who has come out to Inland Greens and supported this new course. For greens fees, unlimited disc golf passes, hours of operation and questions call Inland Greens at 910-452-9900. Look for a Disc Golf United Handicap league starting soon as well as a larger 1 day event!

OH YEAH!
Thanks paT...

;) I have not talked to anyone that has played my courses and his, but this week i got a report.Apples and oranges pat is building park courses on golf courses ie no tee pads,no scorecards,no distance,no pro shop,no looking back....

~~WRONG. I picked up my scorecoard (complete with distances) when I paid in the clubhouse. Get your facts straight. ~~

There is a steve miller song that comes to mind GO ON TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN HOO HOO.My friend said he would never play this course again the 18 hole par 54 he had to make up his own tee area.Some lovely home depo flags like at the MEMORIAL.. :o

~~There are clearly marked natural tees, and pads are on the way. No Home Depot flags. 2 small Innova signs are used. But there are only 9 holes...what course are you talking about? Again, get the facts right....~~

The lady at the pro shop knew nothing she told him to tee from an elevated 4'x4 box he said it was not big enough to tee from she said sure it is, we tee from there???? :confused:

~~The people runnning the proshop are new to the game, but have been very helpful when I was there. Growing pains are to be expected. Slamming people who are trying to learn about and help the sport grow is just juvenile. Plus, the only 'elevated' tees are the ball golf tees, and they are much larger than 4'x4', but I guess we have established that the facts are irrelevant~~

I did get to talk to the owner of 2 of pats courses and he said they are doing poorley ,and if sales dont pick up in 3 months he may remove it.I gave him a few ideas that may help increase rounds.Now on to his tee pads, I got my samples last week 1/2" this is cheap crap.I ripped into little pieces 1" this is a low grade product.I bent it in half and watched it pull apart.My 3/8'will last longer. I sent it to my facility to have it tested.Like an Earl Sheib paint job, Ill paint your car for 99 dollars.Quality never goes out of style FLY 18 ;)

~~I guess only time will tell if those are facts or just more spew...~~





(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:

Great news! I haven't seen the back yet, but some of the locals say it has more potential than the front. Should make an impressive course. Thanks for all the hard work!

Chris

;) I have not talked to anyone that has played my courses and his, but this week i got a report.Apples and oranges pat is building park courses on golf courses ie no tee pads,no scorecards,no distance,no pro shop,no looking back....

~~WRONG. I picked up my scorecoard (complete with distances) when I paid in the clubhouse. Get your facts straight. ~~

There is a steve miller song that comes to mind GO ON TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN HOO HOO.My friend said he would never play this course again the 18 hole par 54 he had to make up his own tee area.Some lovely home depo flags like at the MEMORIAL.. :o

~~There are clearly marked natural tees, and pads are on the way. No Home Depot flags. 2 small Innova signs are used. But there are only 9 holes...what course are you talking about? Again, get the facts right....~~

The lady at the pro shop knew nothing she told him to tee from an elevated 4'x4 box he said it was not big enough to tee from she said sure it is, we tee from there???? :confused:

~~The people runnning the proshop are new to the game, but have been very helpful when I was there. Growing pains are to be expected. Slamming people who are trying to learn about and help the sport grow is just juvenile. Plus, the only 'elevated' tees are the ball golf tees, and they are much larger than 4'x4', but I guess we have established that the facts are irrelevant~~

I did get to talk to the owner of 2 of pats courses and he said they are doing poorley ,and if sales dont pick up in 3 months he may remove it.I gave him a few ideas that may help increase rounds.Now on to his tee pads, I got my samples last week 1/2" this is cheap crap.I ripped into little pieces 1" this is a low grade product.I bent it in half and watched it pull apart.My 3/8'will last longer. I sent it to my facility to have it tested.Like an Earl Sheib paint job, Ill paint your car for 99 dollars.Quality never goes out of style FLY 18 ;)

~~I guess only time will tell if those are facts or just more spew...~~





(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:



Cj you're right
Fly By is a MO ron that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Thanks Again PaT!!

(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:



I've been around on this board since the beginning, and in that time, I've never seen an opinion disregarded just because the poster had a new PDGA number or a low player rating. That stereotype is just not true.

(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:



I've been around on this board since the beginning, and in that time, I've never seen an opinion disregarded just because the poster had a new PDGA number or a low player rating. That stereotype is just not true.



never?

A problem well stated is a problem half solved.

(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:



I've been around on this board since the beginning, and in that time, I've never seen an opinion disregarded just because the poster had a new PDGA number or a low player rating. That stereotype is just not true.



Is it possible that you haven't read every post on the board? I have been around this board for a few years myself, and have seen peoples opinions bashed for those exact reasons. In fact, it was a post by Reese himself from a while ago that I was thinking of when I posted that... but whatever. I am only trying to keep the facts straight about this new course, I'll try to keep the sarcasm out of my future posts. NOT!

(Hmm...wonder if I'll get ragged first for my low rating or my high PDGA number, since both of them mean I don't know what I am talking about, right?) :eek:



I've been around on this board since the beginning, and in that time, I've never seen an opinion disregarded just because the poster had a new PDGA number or a low player rating. That stereotype is just not true.



never?



No, never.

What I have seen often is an opinion disregarded due to a member's low post count. (which is ridiculous, I wish we could get rid of post counts)

Moe and I played this course yesterday. It was SOOOOOOOOO windy. I love the course. It is a great compliment to the castle. I can't wait till the back nine is done. I got an idea for next years Azalea Tournament. 2 rounds at the Castle on Sat. Then 1 round at the Castle Sunday Morning, with a final nine for lead groups at inland greens Sunday afternoon. That would be a good course for a gallery to follow a lead group.

Hey Knappys...Thanks for supporting the new course and I like the idea about Azalea. We've talked a little about duBBs there once a month. CJ was right about the back nine, it has some shorter holes but also some longer carryover shots, can't wait to play them.

Thanks Pat & Inland Greens for the course and all your hard work.

Cool!!! I'm so glad you guys are having a great time on the course! Andrew at Inland Greens is really behind the concept of disc golf and is up for any ideas about future events.I’m all for helping get Inland Greens involved with local events, great ideas! Let’s do a few smaller events (monthlies, DGU League, doubles) over the next 6 months-year and get the details figured out. I know I have not met most of the disc golfers in the area (I’ve only lived in the Carolinas 1 year), but hope to meet some of the wonderful people over the 2005 season! Looking for a great showing from Wilmington at the Harbor View Challenge “B” tier in Little River June 11th and 12th. Anyone interested in helping sponsor or volunteer at the event? Next up…. Inland Greens!!!!

Next up�. Inland Greens!!!!




OH YEAH!

H2

Would there be a discount rate we can get if we have duBBs there?

Thursdays at 6..

H2

Whats up with the back 9? Is it done yet?

Not yet..
He said they would be laying it out in the next couple of weeks.

I cant wait!

My family summers at Wrightsville Beach, so I should be going down for a weekend or two during that time so I can check out this new course.

Endless Greens is now complete!!!!!!!!!!!! The back 9 baskets went in on Saturday and a few of us played the entire layout.....All I can say is that the NEW CROSSTOWN might be in Wilmington!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come one Come all.

3206 ft. on front
3199 on back.........water everywhere, bunks, greens, hawks....bring it.

sweet!