With over 105 different Drivers from 6 major manufactures.
Besides personal preferance, and technique to a science what is the BEST Driver disc for distance?

4 FINGER POWER GRIP

The Illusion has a lot of R&D behind it...Davids sure its the fastest (And I agree) so speed probably has the biggest thing to do with getting distance. They also have decent glide when power is put behind them.

Sabres also have a lot glide and distance when thrown really high.

This is going to be a hard thing to decide with so many styles and height preferences. So speed is probably what should answer you question...which disc is FASTEST.

Way to open a can of worms. You will get at least 10 different answers and will probably be more confused that before you posted. :D

Orc
Teebird
Flash
Crush
Illusion
Sidewinder

Try those! ;)

For me it�s the Dx Beast or Pro Orc, but I have just made a couple of throws with the S-Illusion, and I have not tried the Dx ORc or Pro Starfire...., yet!

I would agree with Kid rocs list but I would add the old reliable dx valk and dx beast to it as well. Doesn't the valk still hold the distance record??

I haven't tried them all, but here's what I like.
1. Pro Starfire
2. Champion Orc

Might as throw the Wildcat in there too being Discrafts Valk copycat disc.

Never thrown a Gateway but...

1-Orc
2-Beast
3-Flash
4-Crush
5-Sidewinder
6-Eagle
7-Talon
8-TeeBird
9-XL
10-(spaced reserved for something Gateway, not nessicarily order, but they have to have something that would break into my top 10)

Those are for golf, but if I am throwing for pure distance

1-DX Orc
2-DX Beast

The Illusion has a lot of R&D behind it...Davids sure its the fastest (And I agree) so speed probably has the biggest thing to do with getting distance. They also have decent glide when power is put behind them.
So speed is probably what should answer you question...which disc is FASTEST.



I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but these statements seem a bit confusing. First of all, "glide" is what we talk about happening when a disc runs out of speed. So to say that a disc has "good glide when a lot of power is put behind [it]" is pretty well a trivial statement.

Speed is another nebulous factor -- what we usually mean by saying one disc is "faster" than another is not that it goes any faster out of the hand (where speed is at its utmost), but rather that it loses speed less rapidly than another disc. But does that make it a BETTER disc for distance? Perhaps not, especially if it has lousy glide in comparison. (To be fair, I will note that you did qualify your statement about speed with a "probably.")

That being said, I am sure the Illusion is a great distance disc. So are the Flash, the Valk, the Beast, the XS, etc.

Finally, as many peoiple will doubtless point out, part of the whole issue wil depend on how much power a player is able to put into his or her throw. For some folks, the Leopard may be the best distance driver, but it certainly is not the fastest disc out there, although it would not factor into any dicussion of what is the "longest" driver out there.

This is one of those threads that will probably generate a lot more heat than light. (Besides, everybody already knows the correct answer is the Quarter K... :D)

barracuda

I think it really depends...
If you don't have the technique, arm speed, snap, etc. for a particular disc or have a throwing style not suited for a certain type of throw, a disc that others find to be extremely long could be really short for you...
You could say the Orc, cause I know plenty of people who use that quite effectively as a max distance driver, but if you don't have enough power, you could throw a Sidewinder or Valk way farther as the Orc would just hyzer out for you...

I have a friend who throws around 450 or so and he likes Pro Line Beasts and other wide-rimmed fast drivers for a big hyzer approach to distance...
I know another guy who throws about the same with beaten to death, flippy as hell dx Teebirds always going with a long hyzer-flip for all out distance...
if you gave one the others disc of choice for a max distance throw they couldn't get past 400 with it because of their different preference of stability, delivery, and technique...

See what I mean... that isn't a well put-together question as there are far too many variables with conditions, technique, players, etc. that cause different discs/types of drivers to be less/more effective from one person to the next...

This is the equivilent of listing the 10 best albums ever (Exile on Main Street # 1 of course). It is going depend on your arm and trowing styles. For me its a Flash but for other it could be a mutitude of others.

dx beast

Please define "best". :)

My most predictable farthest driver is hands down the Orc. 167g for biggest distance, 171g for dependable fade.

My seasoned 168g Champion Starfire is probably my best straight driver.

But best can mean a lot of things. I find that my farthest pure distance drivers are a lot more finicky that an Orc, so while they go farther, they go farther the wrong way a lot too. :o I don't think that's better.

This is the equivilent of listing the 10 best albums ever



Very well put! What I wanted to convey in about a tenth of the words and less confusing... :D

Thanks.

ORC!!!! i carry 5 ,all different weights and flights!!

1st Run Z Crush or a beat-up elite predator

For now, I'm going to say champ. ORC, but that may change in a couple of days once my Pro Starfire gets here... *patiently waiting*

This is the equivilent of listing the 10 best albums ever (Exile on Main Street # 1 of course).



That would be a better discussion and I'd have to agree with Exile . :cool:

Amen my brother. :)

CFR Starfire hands down.
I wish Dave would run this disc in regular campion plastic so I didn't have to shell out the twenty-five buck every time.

1. TSUNAMI, you have to generate a lot of arm speed to really get the maximum distance though.
2. Crush, nuf said
3. The proto discraft driver, no name yet, but I think the Crick would be good, mix between a crush and flick

So, From researching extensivly over the MANY discgolf web sites that I've been searching through, IF you really wanted to work on your long distance drives. Using the Base 10 method. And executing a consistant GRIP, REACH Fully BACK, PULL straight THROUGH, and RELEASE. With a pretty consistant Rip.... a SNAP.

You could max out your distance DRILLS using the old plastic more better than candy plastic.

using:

DX Orc
DX Valkyrie
DX Beast
DX T-Bird
G1i Saber
Leopard

The Champion Leopard was one of the first champion plastic's to hit the martket and could very well be the Cream of the crop?

Having 12 Of the same disc {for training purposes only}

The DX Plastic's of the for mentioned Disc's above, And the champion Leopard should be the main focus for disc's used for maximum distance training?

Also having that many disc's of one kind, you'd really never have to worry about losing your main disc and have to mess with the ever changing candy plastic's syndrome.

Does ANY body know how to get a hold of Barry Schultz?

Minnesota Dan

orc :cool:

Rattler :p

Put down cough syrup Bradley.

What about the Innova Griffin?

Rhyno...HANDS DOWN! http://www.madisc.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif

for me, dx beast is straightest, longest. glide is as important if not more than speed. my pro TL is as long if not longer than my beast if i throw it higher and turn it, even though it is slower.

Pro Orc for pure distance (big S curve)
Champ Orc for accurate distance (tighter line)
Pro TL for low ceiling shots (nice and straight with wicked glide)

I've got a beautiful tiedye candy orc 172g that is without a doubt the best distance disc I have. After trying and disagreeing with two previous orcs, I finally found one that feels right comming out of my hand. And found it on the course to boot :)

You are all forgetting about the dx Valkyrie that was thrown 820ft. The Orc comes back too fast for a pure distance driver...

your orc comes back?

This is the equivilent of listing the 10 best albums ever (Exile on Main Street # 1 of course).



Personally I'd go with "Who's Next?"

Sounds like to me, that for your average golfer orc is best distance driver. but there are obviously other discs that other average golfers can throw farther.

If you want to talk very hypothetically and put the best amount of power, spin, and release into an ideal player. I'd say you'd have to go with the disc that flies the straightest, has the highest cruise speed, and glide. My guess would be a heavy, like 175ish elitez or champion disc that has been ideally worn for minimum fade. So maybe a flick, crush, monster, orc, firebird, or illusion. That would be ideally.

For getting your average good golfer max D on an open 500+ft hole consistently and accurately I'd reccommend the "matted" discs, like dx and s plastic. Valkrye, orc, beast, teebird, tsunami and wildcat come to mind. I'm sure there are more good gateway and discraft discs for avg player max d, i just don't know them as well.

Best disc for distance relies entirely on how it is thrown.

Best disc for distance relies entirely on how it is thrown.



True that.

i was wrong about the orc its a sky streak

your orc comes back?



When it has 820ft. an Orc will come back.

ORC.....I too carry five....different weights and different levels of beat in. Just picked up a 174g Flick. Love it! Its a stable pig but it works quite well throwing rhbh. The Valk I do believe still holds the distance record.

Either the polecat or the piranha. Most definately my biggest distance drivers.

I like the panther my self.

Ok here's my picks

DX beast
Champ Orc
"H" Illusion
Any broken in spirit
Tsunami I have never thrown it but all I that I hear is good things. :D:D:D

I agree with the broken in Spirit. At least for myself. I threw some distance the other day with a few guys and the 170gr Spirit beat everything out by 50' :eek:. The Illusion was only 20' behind it, but the Illusion weighed 175gr. :cool:

I agree with the broken in Spirit. At least for myself. I threw some distance the other day with a few guys and the 170gr Spirit beat everything out by 50' :eek:. The Illusion was only 20' behind it, but the Illusion weighed 175gr. :cool:


The Spirit won by 50' but the Illusion was only 20' feet behind?? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :confused:

Ok here's my picks

DX beast
Champ Orc
"H" Illusion
Any broken in spirit
Tsunami I have never thrown it but all I that I hear is good things. :D:D:D



If you like the DX Beast....the DX Orc is much longer. It is better then the DX Beast like the Champ Orc is better then the Champ Beast. Here are my distances for example.

Champ Beast 420ft
Champ Orc 435ft
DX Beast 440ft
DX Orc 450ft

Yeah but I throw all Gateway. :confused: :confused: I will definantly have to get my hands on a DX Orc and give my thoughts. :D:D

I threw both shots with the Gateway and beat the closest disc trown by someone else by 50' with the Spirit. Hopefully that makes more sense. :p

Scoot, MaddT and the rest of you guys; We just finished the drawing for the NEW driver due out in april.
It is kind of an orc/teebird/Sabre/illusion hybrid
We compined features of all 4 discs.
I cant wait to get the mold built and pop a few out.

I wish I could design a new disc every day it makes me giddy :) :D :p ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:D

Call it the Teeborcsabusion.


Scoot, MaddT and the rest of you guys; We just finished the drawing for the NEW driver due out in april.
It is kind of an orc/teebird/Sabre/illusion hybrid
We compined features of all 4 discs.
I cant wait to get the mold built and pop a few out.

I wish I could design a new disc every day it makes me giddy :) :D :p ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:D

...it is kind of an orc/teebird/bSabre//illusion hybrid. We compined features of all 4 discs.


Sorry, a tad giddy myself :D...best wishes! :cool:

IMO the best distance you can get in most golf siuations is with a very stable mold of disc that has been "tuned" (read beat)

I personally like the 170 white z flicks
Beat 170 z preadator

but out of the box the best distance driver I have thrown was the first run of the flash.

I'm all about a new 175g Orc. 450+ on a decent drive.

Scoot, MaddT and the rest of you guys; We just finished the drawing for the NEW driver due out in april.
It is kind of an orc/teebird/Sabre/illusion hybrid
We compined features of all 4 discs.
I cant wait to get the mold built and pop a few out.

I wish I could design a new disc every day it makes me giddy :) :D :p ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:D



Can't wait!!

Call it the Teeborcsabusion.



Sounds like a shot you'd get for turburculosis. however you spell that.

I just bought an G1i Sabre,

Why buy Pro-line or Champion when DX is the true value.

How many MORE disc's do we need!!

Scoot, MaddT and the rest of you guys; We just finished the drawing for the NEW driver due out in april.
It is kind of an orc/teebird/Sabre/illusion hybrid
We compined features of all 4 discs.
I cant wait to get the mold built and pop a few out.

I wish I could design a new disc every day it makes me giddy :) :D :p ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:D



Can't wait!!


Hey Chris I think you were one of the other guys. :D:D

Why buy Pro-line or Champion when DX is the true value.




You don't play a wooded course very often do you?

If I threw DX only I would go through 3-5 discs a week during the summer. That gets expensive after a while.

Scoot, MaddT and the rest of you guys; We just finished the drawing for the NEW driver due out in april.
It is kind of an orc/teebird/Sabre/illusion hybrid
We compined features of all 4 discs.
I cant wait to get the mold built and pop a few out.

I wish I could design a new disc every day it makes me giddy :) :D :p ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :o:D



Can't wait!!


Hey Chris I think you were one of the other guys. :D:D



Yeah, but I wasn't mentioned. :o :mad:No, its all good...I just got done cleaning the drool off my keyboard, so now maybe I can get some putting done! :D

Why buy Pro-line or Champion when DX is the true value.




You don't play a wooded course very often do you?

If I threw DX only I would go through 3-5 discs a week during the summer. That gets expensive after a while.



Do you know that after a dx disc taco's out, alot of the time it can bend very well back to a fairly straight orientation? I did that today. If that kind of disc would be too flippy for you, just try buying a disc slightly more overstable and when that happens it'll fly just right.

Taco'ing isn't the problem, they become so beat in that they become super understable.

Taco'ing isn't the problem, they become so beat in that they become super understable.



Last time I checked we were talking about pure distance drivers... NOT wooded courses /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

how does the dx orc differ from the dx beast as far as hi-speed turn and low speed fade are concerned? parkntwoputt--why do you get more d from the orc? i would assume it has more low speed fade?

Taco'ing isn't the problem, they become so beat in that they become super understable.



Last time I checked we were talking about pure distance drivers... NOT wooded courses /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


My quote was in response to discussing un-taco'ing a disc because DX discs were expensive to replace because of a wooded course. But if its just an open field how you going to taco it anyway?

how does the dx orc differ from the dx beast as far as hi-speed turn and low speed fade are concerned? parkntwoputt--why do you get more d from the orc? i would assume it has more low speed fade?



Essentially the DX Orc compares to the DX Beast like the Champ Orc vs the Champ Beast.

The DX Beast has a more high speed turn and more low speed fade. And exactly like you said, the DX Orc has less turn and less fade.

I am not getting a terrible amount of distance more out of the Orc then the Beast, about 3% more, but the fact that flex in the overall flight is tighter adds the extra distance in my opinion.

Personally I choose the DX Orc as my distance competition disc, because around here, we throw on a designated feild in a certain direction regardless of wind. The Orc holds up "better" in a head wind then the DX Beast.

Also, if you are going for pure distance and you are blessed with a tail wind. I would suggest the DX Valkrie, or the DX Viking (which is basically a faster Valkrie). I personally would throw the DX Beast in a tailwind because I tend to have a slight break in my wrist and that makes discs turn more then I want them. (Which is also why I prefer overstable plastic).

I hope this helps.

Don't you mean that the Orc has MORE low spped fade than the beast??? :confused:

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You don't play a wooded course very often do you?

If I threw DX only I would go through 3-5 discs a week during the summer. That gets expensive after a while.

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Good point!

After researching, distance disc's, I decided to buy a DX Valkyrie as my main driver. And already I've noticed a steady long up the middle, slow-S. I also bought a DX Leopard 171g to compliment my 2 other 171 champion Leopards.
Haven't really used the G1i, yet.
5 of our 12 holes are narrow lane shots...200' to 275'. Just fire straight & true.
tomarrow it'll be 55 and sunny, perfect! for winter disc.

Minnesota Dan
http://images.ofoto.com/photos1140/3/82/94/4/85/0/85049482307_0_ALB.jpg

5-10ft wide fairways are pretty tough to hit consistantly.

Don't you mean that the Orc has MORE low spped fade than the beast??? :confused:



No. The Orc and the Beast essentailly end up in the same place. The Beast just takes a larger S-curve then the Orc. Hence revealing that Beast Faded more then the Orc. To actually get the Orc to turn (S-curve) it requires alot of power. I only know of 5 other people at our local course that can get the Orc to turn. So for most people with less arm speed the Orc would seem to fade more then the Beast.

dx ORC = BIG D

There is a major difference in a 5 foot fairway and a 10 foot wide fairway. I know because I have both in my yard. ;)