How would you like your 2005 Texas state rep for the USDGC to be chosen*?

We need to start thinking about this now.

Here are some idea's (in no particular order) :

1. The mass lottery system .....Buy 1 ticket, throw it into a hat, winner pulled from hat. (There should be a few stipulations like -player must have played in at least 3 PDGA open, or open master fields.)

2. Highest rated player at the summer update..... send the highest rated player that has failed to qualify on his own.

3. Lottery system based on performance...... An open or open master player that places in the Top 5 of any TX b-tier or higher gets their name put in a hat for every time they placed Top 5 from now through the summer, winner drawn from hat.

4. State Rep Tournament .......throw a tournament for the State rep spot.



These are just a few ideas. I think that the #1 State of Disc Golf needs to let the players have a say in how their Rep is chosen........lets see what you think!!!!


*Disclaimer---- The State Rep may or may not be chosen from the suggestions posted here on this board.

Send a lefty!

I like the qualifying tournament idea, but we all know how free the Texas schedule is...

Any other idea's? They say lefty's are the only people in their right minds.

Number 2 gets my vote :D

I like 2 as well!!!!

The only problem with sending the highest rated player is:

What if that player only played in B and C tiers, never playing against 1000+ rated propigators?

i think it should go to Nez like a couple years ago. he's the best thing that ever happened to texas after all.

either that or #4. that's what we do in Louisiana, we move it around from city to city every year.

How would you like your 2005 Texas state rep for the USDGC to be chosen*?

We need to start thinking about this now.

Here are some idea's (in no particular order) :

1. The mass lottery system .....Buy 1 ticket, throw it into a hat, winner pulled from hat. (There should be a few stipulations like -player must have played in at least 3 PDGA open, or open master fields.)

2. Highest rated player at the summer update..... send the highest rated player that has failed to qualify on his own.

3. Lottery system based on performance...... An open or open master player that places in the Top 5 of any TX b-tier or higher gets their name put in a hat for every time they placed Top 5 from now through the summer, winner drawn from hat.

4. State Rep Tournament .......throw a tournament for the State rep spot.



These are just a few ideas. I think that the #1 State of Disc Golf needs to let the players have a say in how their Rep is chosen........lets see what you think!!!!


*Disclaimer---- The State Rep may or may not be chosen from the suggestions posted here on this board.





Thanks for the input MK! It was nice seeing you last weekend.

What are the odds of that happening. They also must be willing to go and play USDGC.

At Rockhill, I don't think you have to worry about who you're playing against, you have to worry about playing the course. I only know of one hole, #3, you can kind of relax on and that will bite you in the butt if you relax too much.

the rep MUST go play

Hole #3 is just begging you to relax so it can take a bite out of you. There aren't any holes you can relax on very much, and if the wind starts blowing there aren't any you can relax on at all.

There is also the concept that the State Rep spots are to be used to reward players that have made significant contributions to Disc Golf within the state that would not be able to qualify otherwise. Any thoughts on that ?

I think the decision should be based on weight. Ya, that's right, send the skinniest person. Hmmm, let's see, who has a body like Olive Olyle? (It's the only way I could win the spot) :D

There is also the concept that the State Rep spots are to be used to reward players that have made significant contributions to Disc Golf within the state that would not be able to qualify otherwise. Any thoughts on that ?



Great idea Gary but there would be too many back stabbings with the guys. We don't need a repeat of how Nez got his spot. :D

How about Texas stirs up the pot a little and sends a woman? Since I have played the event a couple of times I know how hard it is but who knows what a Texas woman could do. Des and Juliana are the only 2 women ever to play there. Lets add to that list?

Besides all the guys have plenty of chances if they really wanted to go.

Gary notice I didn't say you should run another qualifying event again. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I will keep out of it from now as I am going by being Australian. :cool:

Interesting thought Chris. I just said I look Like Olive Oyle. I think we're really on the same page here.

#2 seems very fair and may spark more tournament turnout for those close to the top.

I had thought that we should send a woman every so often.

Like every 4th or 5th year.

The TWC is coming up soon, and it would make my life simpler.

#2 seems very fair and may spark more tournament turnout for those close to the top.



The problem with the highest rated player is...if you only play TX tournaments against 950-980 rated players, you're going to have a higher rating than someone who plays against tougher fields. No?

#2 seems very fair and may spark more tournament turnout for those close to the top.



or........to maintain your rating, NOT play! :confused:

. The mass lottery system .....Buy 1 ticket, throw it into a hat, winner pulled from hat. (There should be a few stipulations like -player must have played in at least 3 PDGA open, or open master fields.)


how much would tickets be, what happens to the money? Not a bad idea really

2. Highest rated player at the summer update..... send the highest rated player that has failed to qualify on his own.


Highest qualified player who wants to go, all submissions go to Gary, or beter yet My-Hero. You have to pick a date that everyone has to commit to going, then pick the player before the cut off date. Then make sure that player goes.


3. Lottery system based on performance...... An open or open master player that places in the Top 5 of any TX b-tier or higher gets their name put in a hat for every time they placed Top 5 from now through the summer, winner drawn from hat.


To hard to figure out, and then again, you need to pick someone who wants to go.


4. State Rep Tournament .......throw a tournament for the State rep spot.


Been done, and why is he not doing it again this year/?? Could it be from not enough interest? (or the fact that he put way to much of his own money into it)


You have to base the pick on something up front. I can tell you that it is not an easy job to pick someone from a list of players. I did that and lost a friend. :(

who knows what a Texas woman could do. Des and Juliana are the only 2 women ever to play there.



That's because they are past, or current WORLD CHAMPS. I'm not sure if they have ever qualified by being one of the 5 lowest scores at a qualifier......i could be wrong. I've lost to Julianna before :D

It won't be 1, 2, or 4. Maybe some variation of 3, maybe more along the lines of recognition that Harold suggested a while back.

Variation of 3. Top 5 scores get 2 pts, top 10 get 1 point. highest point total after LOSO wins. I still like the TWC winner (you know the winner will be from TX) getting a spot if she wants one.

You have to base the pick on something up front. I can tell you that it is not an easy job to pick someone from a list of players. I did that and lost a friend. :(



Not much of a real friend then :eek:

send the youngest player in Tx with a rating over 950. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I better add that i'm NOT opposed to sending a woman. We have some great PRO women in this great state.

The USDGC is a unique experience that unfortunately not everyone gets to experience. I'm in the same boat as Himing, except without the dual citizenship. I've qualified 3 times, participated 2 times, and cashed 1 time. I'm not looking to be the Rep without earning it. In fact, i'd rather earn it the way i always have, by being one of the lowest scores at a qualifier.

I'm glad we are discussing it early. It's been rough on the Rep the last few years. Clayton Bethman hurt his ankle 2 days before the event, Nez was the only one that asked in time for the deadline, and Mike Grider didn't bring his A-game.

Glad to see the input so far.

Make it like American Idol or Survivor. Every person that wants an invite can state their case for a judging panel. Then we can vote out the notalentwannabes each week all the way up to the USDGC. OR, throw them all in a gladiator pit and whoever is the last standing gets the invite! Charge admission and you have sponsorship for the Tx10 all season. :D

Now that is an idea :D

alright i will go :D

We thought SeeHORSE would say.....whoever can drink a 12 pack and then throw the farthest! :D

That's a competition I'd pay to see. Personally, I'd be curled up in a fetal position on the tee pad after two beers. :o

We thought SeeHORSE would say.....whoever can drink a 12 pack and then throw the farthest! :D



Yeah, but where is a safe place to watch from :eek:

We thought SeeHORSE would say.....whoever can drink a 12 pack and then throw the farthest! :D



Yeah, but where is a safe place to watch from :eek:



It wouldn't be BEHIND them!!! There's no place like home....There's no place like home........... :D

:eek:

hmmmmm a women.......What a great idea!
this guy Gary is always thinkin.
Now how we going to do it?

who knows what a Texas woman could do. Des and Juliana are the only 2 women ever to play there.



That's because they are past, or current WORLD CHAMPS. I'm not sure if they have ever qualified by being one of the 5 lowest scores at a qualifier......i could be wrong. I've lost to Julianna before :D



Actually, Des has qualified based on placement in a qualifier (2003), though later that year, she won the US Women's and got an exemption there, as well.

Tried the single tournament thing last year, really expensive and very little support.

I really have been trying to figure out a good way to send a woman every so often, but need to hear from the women to see if any of them would be able to attend if they had the opportunity. If we all say that we want to support the women and get them playing, I am ready to put what support I have behind them.

No matter where this year's spot goes, we need a system in place for the men for this year or next.

I knew someone would know. Thanks Jon.

A idea could be pick 5 events and highest point getter in the 5 events gets the usdgc spot.
And to help the cost of going..... anyone playing in the selected 5 events could pay an additional $10 over entry. All money collected would go with the rep.

Keep the ideas coming. The more ideas we have the harder it will be for Duke to decide. :DI love you man! :D

I think the winner of the TWC should be offered the chance at USDGC.

Of course I think a woman going is great. But to keep it fair I do like the idea of a player who finished top 5 out of 5 selected tournies and then draw from there or something. I dont like the points idea because smaller divisions would not be eligible. I think the person should be chosen also on there attitude about disc golf, we dont want someone to represent Texas in the wrong way.

I think the winner of the TWC should be offered the chance at USDGC.




Sure, I think that's a good idea every 4th or 5th year. However, the women have their own annual championship don't they?

However, the women have their own annual championship don't they?



Are you trying to throw a wet blanket on this idea ? Haven't ever been there, but any woman that wants to go can go. You can't really win a spot. Maybe if we could dig up a sponsor for flight and lodging that would be an interesting idea.

No wet blankets here. That's why i asked if the great women of our sport had a USDGC style event. No other qualifications other than being female, huh?

Doesn't look like it, they had 51 players last year for all divisions. No mention of qualifiers on the web page.

I look good in a wig....maybe next year they'll have 52 entrants. :D

bring your wig down for the cross dress 1 round championship at TWC
It will be held after the first round

bring your wig down for the cross dress 1 round championship at TWC
It will be held after the first round



:cool::) /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :D :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D:p :o

be careful My-hero there is no ADDED $$$ for the cross dressing round. :D

Actually, Des has qualified based on placement in a qualifier (2003), though later that year, she won the US Women's and got an exemption there, as well.



Juliana qualified on score at a qualifier in 2001. Probaly at Toronto when she took down My Hero. Maybe Rumbletown. :) Then went on to shoot rounds of 1003, 1003, 999 and 983 at the USDGC to cash. :eek: That's a 997 average!!! Look at the results it looks like a woman hasn't had a SINGLE ROUND of 997 at the USDGC since then.

Ya know looking at last year USDGC the cash line was at 993. :cool:

They have no qualifiers for the USWDGC simply because they don't have any problems with the tourney filling up. :D

Probaly at Toronto when she took down My Hero



D'Oh! Did she take me down at the 2001 TIO as well? Well that makes two victories for her......she took me down at one of the early Z-Boaz events! :DGotta love the women world champs!

Whew....i beat her by a stick at the TIO!

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=2606#Open

Whew....i beat her by a stick at the TIO!

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=2606#Open



Did she take home more cash than you? :o No need to retaliate - she would beat me in every tournament. :confused: :o:D

Des has shot a couple of 990+ rounds at the USDGC.
She has qualified for the event 4 different ways!

2005 Top 10 Money Winners
2004 US Womens Champion
2003 Regional Qualifier (Mad City Open)
2002 Womens World Champion

Many ways to get there. One Division, One Champion.

The Women's Nationals doesn't have qualifiers per say due to the wanting of maximum participation. They have National Championships for all Womens Divisions.
That would be a very noble goal to pay for a Texas Woman's experience to a National Calibre event just for Women. I let Des go to this event solo each year because she enjoys the great atmosphere of being around other women for the whole tournament. I have been there for the finals though, and you have never heard such a Unified Banshee Cry than the "two minute warning" of the last round of the USWDGC!
Gary, put the bounty up, or at least some of it, myself and others can help make it happen, maybe some raffle money.
Winner of the USWDGC trip must be an "official" Women's Texas Resident. (that excludes you know who, but she is already taken care of)
-Entry Fee
-Food Stipend
-Room Stipend
-Travel Stipend

Winner will most likely have to carpool up with some other Texas ladies, but $300-$500 might cover it! It sure would help someone to be able to go.

Des has shot a couple of 990+ rounds at the USDGC.


I only see 1: A 993 in 2003. With the next highest a 971 also in 2003. But then I don't live with her. :D



My.Hero:
Whew.



Sorry for the misinfo My.Hero. You are correct.

As for a comment on the original thread.

#3 seems like the best option for a lot of reasons
-Would help attendance at Texas A and B Tiers
-States best players would be up for the honor
-Takes the tough decision of who to send option out
-We unfortunately need another tournament in Texas

Cons
-More paperwork for someone to follow, it could be done later times though with results.
-It would be nice to pay the qualifiers entry, stipends, but creates a whole new burden of raising funds or collecting fees

Sounds like it could be a solid plan with more thought

I like the idea of the woman going to the womens tournie. Of any tournement out there, the women should go to that one (and the TWC) I think the person that goes to the USGDC should be able to compete with the top people there. There is not a woman in Texas (residents :D) that could even compete on that level. I think that entry should be given to a person that will represent Texas in golf game and in character. Maybe the TD's of 2005 should be able to vote on a person, maybe people could earn nominations or something. I really dont know how it can be done but I want Texas to be represented well.

but I want Texas to be represented well.




Me too!

Though, I do like the idea of sending a woman there also. How did we get 2 spots last year? I've slept since then.

I really enjoyed playing in the tournament last year that Gary and volunteers put on. Thanks for all that work and getting the money for entry fees for USDGC. That was the toughest course I have ever played with it roped off like that.
I would like to see another tournament like that this year, but I understand if it is too much of a time and financial burden.

I let Des go to this event solo each year because...


...she tells you to stay home! And you are smart and do what she says. :D

There is also the concept that the State Rep spots are to be used to reward players that have made significant contributions to Disc Golf within the state that would not be able to qualify otherwise. Any thoughts on that ?


You should send Atwood. Just do it.

What about having all tournament that want to be qualifiers say so this year.

Then from August 1st till next year, every qualifying event collect $1 from each players entry fee (in the Pro division only) and then the highest point leader who committs on going get his entry paid for out of the $1 fee's. (if there is enough, the fee could be 50 cents or maybe even less)

Just a thought.

You should send Atwood. Just do it.



I'm all for it!!!!!!! Could we take bets at where he'd finish? :o

You should send Atwood. Just do it.



I'm all for it!!!!!!! Could we take bets at where he'd finish? :o



Next to DFL :o:D:eek: :cool:

I'm all for it!!!!!!! Could we take bets at where he'd finish? :o



See, it would benefit all Texas disc golfers as they followed his adventure. :)

If he would post his journal every evening, it might be fun to keep up with.

I'm leaning toward the finishes in B-Tiers and above being a determining factor. Either through points or qualifying for a drawing, or mini or something. So get out there and support your PDGA TDs.

In that case I need to start plaing some B-tiers. :D:D

In that case I need to start plaing some B-tiers. :D:D



Send the Kid!!!

Yeah what he said. :D:D

you can do it scoooooter!!! :D:D

If he would post his journal every evening, it might be fun to keep up with.



Can you imagine what the journal would read?



From Hackwood's journal.............

USDGC day 1 round 1

Things started out great, well sort of. I hit the line on hole #1, parked it, but missed a 12 footer for birdie. I was a little nervous with everyone watching and all. Well, a 3(par) is better than a 4.

I managed to throw 2 back to back good shots on hole 2, leaving me with an 80'er for birdie that i decided to lay up so i wouldn't go OB in the corner of the parking lot. Easy Par(4.)

On hole 3's tee pad i couldn't feel the left to right wind that was crossing the fairway so it didn't surprise me when my driver (cuz i can't reach it with an approach disc) drifted right, and landed in the schule, almost pin high. With an easy wrist flip, i was out of the woods, and nailed the 30'er for Par(3).

Hole 4 caused a little grief, okay A LOT of grief. I gripped locked my drive and threw it into the jungle on the right, only about 50' off of the teepad. My only option was to pitch it straight out to the fairway, so i did. On my 3rd shot, all i wanted to do was get near the drop zone's black mat where the unfortunate golfers must throw from if they end up in the "fake lake." Well, i didn't quite make it to the mat, i hit one of the little tree's half way there! Where the disc came to rest, i didn't think i could make it to the green, so i opted to lay up in between the mat and the "fake lake". That was easy, but now i'm laying 4 (par is 4.) Now i must figure out how to get around/over/through the circle of pines. I chose to try and hit one of the gaps up high, well that didn't work. The disc hit one of the pines, and bounced backwards into the "fake lake"(OB), now i'll be throwing 7 from the drop zone. Let's try to get behind those pines again......let's try a low skip shot this time......okay, that didn't work either. It hit one of the stakes that hold the infamous yellow rope, and bounced backwards into the "fake lake"(OB) again! Back to the drop zone, now throwing 9!!!! This time i opted to try the BIG TEXAS spike hyzer......it WORKED!!!! I'm on the GREEN!!!!! Looks like an easy two putt from here......ooops.......i ran at the 1st one a little too aggresively and left myself with a 20'er for comeback. **** it.....too low......i missed!!! Looks like that 3 putt carded a 12.

Only 8 over after 4 holes. On to hole #5, what's it like? :D

For those of you that haven't ever seen me play, John's version of my fourth hole is spot on, even if holes one through three were, shall we say, generous. :)

BTW, I guarantee I would finish better than DFL. I think I can take Rothstein. ;)

Good thing he stopped before hole 5. There is no "fake lake" to get your discs back out of. It would be "continuing on to hole 6 with a much lighter bag...."

Send Atwood as the TX Rep!

Gary, you alone have the power. Use it for this purpose! :)

yea......i didn't even want to begin to think about what *could* happen on hole #5 to Atwood.

Something like:

--Doesn't turn drive over at all, and it bails out left and SPLASHES into the REAL lake.

--Throwing 3, misjudges right lo left wind and splashes into the REAL lake again....SPLASH

--Throwing 5, thinks he can reach the other side but it's 400', and his disc lands 50' short.....SPLASH.

--Throwing 7, and thinking "well i didn't get the full ride out of that one, i can make it".....Nope......only 15' short this time!!!....SPLASH again!

--Throwing 9, i better just go around. Booms a hyzer to the corner.

--Throwing 10, nothing but a 200' upshot to the green

--Putts at 11, and 12, making the second putt.

Looks like back to back 12's! Okay, now we are 15 over after 5 holes(good thing #5 is a par 5, or we'd be 16 over :D). What's hole #6 have in store? :o

Rhett, if I didn't know better, I'd say you were trying to get our wonderful PDGA State Coordinator lynched. ;)

tis funny, when I played worlds in 02 I finished my round with my putter and ce ms. very humbling indeed! Darn dragon hole and those other ones too

Rhett, if I didn't know better, I'd say you were trying to get our wonderful PDGA State Coordinator lynched. ;)



Ware's gonna complain regardless of who gets sent anyway.... :o :)

Rhett, if I didn't know better, I'd say you were trying to get our wonderful PDGA State Coordinator lynched. ;)


No way. You are a good choice. Especially if you are required do a daily blog for the Texans back home in the Republic. :)

I'd love for atwood to go. I've already summed up holes 1-5. I'm scared of what some of the other holes *could yield.


Can you imagine what the journal would read?



From Hackwood's journal.............

USDGC day 1 round 1

Things started out great, well sort of. I hit the line on hole #1, parked it, but missed a 12 footer for birdie. I was a little nervous with everyone watching and all. Well, a 3(par) is better than a 4.

I managed to throw 2 back to back good shots on hole 2, leaving me with an 80'er for birdie that i decided to lay up so i wouldn't go OB in the corner of the parking lot. Easy Par(4.)

On hole 3's tee pad i couldn't feel the left to right wind that was crossing the fairway so it didn't surprise me when my driver (cuz i can't reach it with an approach disc) drifted right, and landed in the schule, almost pin high. With an easy wrist flip, i was out of the woods, and nailed the 30'er for Par(3).

Hole 4 caused a little grief, okay A LOT of grief. I gripped locked my drive and threw it into the jungle on the right, only about 50' off of the teepad. My only option was to pitch it straight out to the fairway, so i did. On my 3rd shot, all i wanted to do was get near the drop zone's black mat where the unfortunate golfers must throw from if they end up in the "fake lake." Well, i didn't quite make it to the mat, i hit one of the little tree's half way there! Where the disc came to rest, i didn't think i could make it to the green, so i opted to lay up in between the mat and the "fake lake". That was easy, but now i'm laying 4 (par is 4.) Now i must figure out how to get around/over/through the circle of pines. I chose to try and hit one of the gaps up high, well that didn't work. The disc hit one of the pines, and bounced backwards into the "fake lake"(OB), now i'll be throwing 7 from the drop zone. Let's try to get behind those pines again......let's try a low skip shot this time......okay, that didn't work either. It hit one of the stakes that hold the infamous yellow rope, and bounced backwards into the "fake lake"(OB) again! Back to the drop zone, now throwing 9!!!! This time i opted to try the BIG TEXAS spike hyzer......it WORKED!!!! I'm on the GREEN!!!!! Looks like an easy two putt from here......ooops.......i ran at the 1st one a little too aggresively and left myself with a 20'er for comeback. **** it.....too low......i missed!!! Looks like that 3 putt carded a 12.

Only 8 over after 4 holes. On to hole #5, what's it like?





yea......i didn't even want to begin to think about what *could* happen on hole #5 to Atwood.

Something like:

--Doesn't turn drive over at all, and it bails out left and SPLASHES into the REAL lake.

--Throwing 3, misjudges right lo left wind and splashes into the REAL lake again....SPLASH

--Throwing 5, thinks he can reach the other side but it's 400', and his disc lands 50' short.....SPLASH.

--Throwing 7, and thinking "well i didn't get the full ride out of that one, i can make it".....Nope......only 15' short this time!!!....SPLASH again!

--Throwing 9, i better just go around. Booms a hyzer to the corner.

--Throwing 10, nothing but a 200' upshot to the green

--Putts at 11, and 12, making the second putt.

Looks like back to back 12's! Okay, now we are 15 over after 5 holes(good thing #5 is a par 5, or we'd be 16 over ). What's hole #6 have in store?

I'll vote for Atwood!

BUT... if he DOES finish DFL - or even behind Rothstein... then he wears the skirt! :D j/k

go gettem atwood!

BUT... if he DOES finish DFL - or even behind Rothstein... then he wears the skirt! :D j/k



That sounds like a good deal right there!

And so it begins again...

:D:D:D
Viva La Skirt!

I thought you got rid of that thing.

And so it begins again...

:D:D:D
Viva La Skirt!



So sad that some folks can't simply learn from their defeats and insist on reaching for their elusive gold ring.


THE SKIRT DIED! I KILLED IT! :cool:

(Of course, I'm pretty confident that even under those proposed conditions, I'd be in no danger.)

(Of course, I'm pretty confident that even under those proposed conditions, I'd be in no danger.)


ATWOOD ACCEPTS THE CHALLENGE!!!

Gary, you have to select him as the rep now.

(Of course, I'm pretty confident that even under those proposed conditions, I'd be in no danger.)



Does that mean that under those conditions, you'd accept? :D

I still have the skirt...

AND, if given another opportunity... I think THIS TIME, I could Take You Down! So, MarkA - R U coming to the WVO or what? ;)

(Of course, I'm pretty confident that even under those proposed conditions, I'd be in no danger.)



Does that mean that under those conditions, you'd accept? :D

I still have the skirt...

AND, if given another opportunity... I think THIS TIME, I could Take You Down! So, MarkA - R U coming to the WVO or what? ;)


Now I have another reason to go to the WVO /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You should send Atwood. Just do it.



I'm all for it!!!!!!! Could we take bets at where he'd finish? :o



Next to DFL :o:D:eek: :cool:


BTW, I guarantee I would finish better than DFL. I think I can take Rothstein.





That's what I was sayin' :D:cool:

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Funny, I think I hear a breeze from the west coast. Do you hear anything ? :eek:

You guys are freakin' nuts. :D

I think the paper should run a special report on the event and send Mark as a reporter.

I agree, and if I could get them to pay expenses, mileage and the entry fee for a sponsors exemption, they'd sure as hell get a story out of it. ;)

I think you should send Mark and I will help by going along as his chaparone (how do you spell that anyway?). :D:D

Despite the fact that I think John Maiuro is one of the coolest people I've ever met (in a life that I've met ALOT of people) if you guys listen to his sick and twisted imagination, you're as disturbed as he is.

The man has a dancing fat guy in a thong for an avatar, for cryin' out loud!

Send Scooter. It'd be fun to watch some pro's cry when a little kid whips their arse. ;)

If Scooter plays enough B-Tiers, I am sure his name will be in the hat or tourney or whatever it turns out to be.

I have only played with the jiggly man once but he was one of the coolest people I have ever played with. SEND MARKA :D:D

[Lurking from S.Florida]



Boy,.................Have i got some of you guys fooled! :p


[<<<<< Too fat for swimsuit.....Lurk off]

[Lurking from S.Florida]



Boy,.................Have i got some of you guys fooled! :p


[<<<<< Too fat for swimsuit.....Lurk off]



Hero is actually a bit of a freak... :eek: I will not get into details on a public board....

OK, here it is.

To get on the list, you must:
Finish in the top 10 scores (counting all players) in a Texas B-Tier or above between Aug 2004 and July 2005.
Be from Texas
There will be a fee ( that shows a committment to going ) required to be eligible. All proceeds will be used to pay the winner's entry fee and offset travel costs.

LOSO will be the last event. The winner will either be determined by their play at LOSO, or the winner will be drawn at LOSO.

I'll start digging through tourney results and post a list of eligible players on the LSDGA.com news area some time soon.

LOSO is the Live Oak Summer Open, right? Not that I have a chance in hell of qualifying, or that I'd even be able to go to the USDGC, but would you have to play in the LOSO to qualify as the Texas Rep? This would be interesting to know if the same format for qualifying is used for the coming years. I really hope to play in that tournament someday, maybe in 2 or 3 years.

Yes, LOSO is the Live Oak Summer Open, and it is the last event before the deadline for State Reps being selected.

I would prefer that some level of competition be involved, but some of the qualified players might not be able to attend the event. A drawing would allow all of those that qualified (and added money to the pot for the winner) an equal chance at getting the invitation.

So all the great players of Texas should come to LOSO!!!

Great Gary, that is sweet.

Let us know what the fee is once you decide.

Based on last year's interest level, I was thinking around $20. That way only 12 entrants would be required to cover the entry fee, and any more could help cover travel expenses.

That's about how many serious contenders we had last year.

Sounds good. Thanks.

Top 10 scores in a B-tier.So Ams can get in as well if they play well? :confused: :D:confused:

top 10 scores in a b tier. is that b tier por better, such as waco, assuming number8-10 doesnt get the exemption. and if you do get the exemption invite can you still qualify to be the tx rep and have everything paid for?

TK

Yes, TK.
B-tier or higher.

I would have to say no.

You should win enough if you win a spot to cover the cost of entry.

Since you only have your spot reserved for a month after winning one, not using it would be a big risk. Side bets are allowed if you want to come down and win some cash for the trip.

moved from the Waco NT thread:


What if Scooter(Matt Hall) plays well enough at Waco(b/c he can) to earn a USDGC spot, but declines the PDGA cash in order to remain a bagger( :D), would he have to forfeit his USDGC spot as well?

If the spot is based on placing (most logical), not prize amount, then he's eligible for the USDGC.

I have to make it first. :D:D

You'd hve to check the USDGC site, but I dont think acceptin cash is a requirement. Top 5 scores not previously qualified.

Please reconsider and send Atwood.

That's probably a lynching offense in Tejas.

Please reconsider and send Atwood.



You know, the more I think about it, the better this sounds...

That's probably a lynching offense in Tejas.



Whatchu talkin bout Willis? :D

That's probably a lynching offense in Tejas.



Whatchu talkin bout Willis? :D



You change your name to Gary? :p

If I did would that mean you had to change your name to Gary too? :)

hey Gary

Hey Brain, I mean Brian, I mean Bryan. :)

If I did would that mean you had to change your name to Gary too? :)



Can't do that. I already have a brother named Gary. :D

If I did would that mean you had to change your name to Gary too? :)



Can't do that. I already have a brother named Gary. :D



He's not kidding either. :D

If I did would that mean you had to change your name to Gary too? :)



Can't do that. I already have a brother named Gary. :D



Don't tell that to George Foreman. Or his kids.

George.
George.
George.
George.
George,
or Georgette.

GD,

I know the final drawing/decision is a few months away, but do you have any numbers crunched yet? May we have a sneak peek? :D

No.


I did some looking earlier, and decided that it should be a top 10 finish (by score, not division). Meaning that even if you are one of the top 5 Texans, if 8 of the top 10 were from outside of Texas, you might not make it.

Also that previous qualification did not remove you from the list of finishers. Meaning that if you finish 7th and 2 players above you are already in, you do not move up to 5th and qualify.

I expect to have 20-25 qualified players, still need to figure out how to do the cimmitment part. Meaning that you can't win the spot unless you are committed to going.

Meaning that you can't win the spot unless you are committed to going.



For what its worth, regarding my earlier nomination...


...I should be committed and so should anyone who thinks I should go.


Hope that helps. :)

F... it! Let's send Atwood!!!!

Atwood, maybe you could design a course we could play when we comitt(sp?) ourselves,

I'll get right on that, Chuy...


...as soon as the voices tell me too. :)

JM, you seriously need to seek some counseling. ;)

JM, you seriously need to seek some counseling. ;)



And start with Jenny Craig...

Do you think counseling would help? Isn't it just a different type of brainwashing?

BTW, i'd kill to see your journal entries about your rounds on Winthrop Gold. Do i need to dig it back up?

JM, you seriously need to seek some counseling. ;)



And start with Jenny Craig...



You're not kidding. I hurt my back last night putting. Too much weight up front! :D:p

the live scoring spreadsheet might have to be adjusted a numric character or two :o

Sir! I respectfully disagree. There's no way I'd be DFL. Guaranteed.

If adjustment is required, I wouldn't be the only one needing it. :)

He is #10 in the world. We just won't go into all of the footnotes.

That's very kind of you to gloss over. :)

Bet I'd beat Rothstein. ;)

Sir! I respectfully disagree. There's no way I'd be DFL. Guaranteed.



Ok, Gary, there's your opening. Problem Solved. :)

It'd be an easy to get out of being a State Coordinator as well. hmmmmmm

ATWOOD! ATWOOD! ATWOOD! ATWOOD! ATWOOD!
I'll cover his room. You guys give him the invite and pass the hat to cover his entry. His part will be to get himself there.

I'm serious about the room, BTW.

USDGC: John Mauiro, with Alex Hughes as the backup.

Scores will be posted this afternoon. I passed out last night after unloading the U-Haul, and I have a big meeting this morning at work.

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LODGA BABY!

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There were 2 draws for the USDGC spot and John My-hero won them both. Someone called John and he said he was unable to attend so there was a 3rd draw and it was Alex "What a Final 9" Hughes.,





Wow, i feel honored. Thank you!!!! Here is a little more info on my plans.



Here's a quick letter to Alex Hughes:



Alex!!!!

I couldn't think of a better alternate!!!!! Congrats on that. Please keep that week open. My sister is in the Bahama's right now, and i have a call in to her......which she hasn't returned yet.

When i signed up for the Tx state rep lottery, that week was open. Well, it might not be open now. My sis is coming to DFW from Florida(where she lives) either the 1st or 2nd week in October. If she comes during the USDGC, you will need to attend it for the STATE of TEXAS!!!

I'll let you, Gary Duke, and Chris Himing know the moment i hear from my sis. She must be having too much fun in the sun right now.

john

Oh yeah........


<font color="orange"> Where the F... is Tasker? </font>


Do you like the dots lou? :D

I thought I trademarked that. :p

My royalty check better be in the mail.

And for real too, not Tasker-style "in the mail." :D

You'd better hear from her soon. Friday is the deadline for registering, and one of you has to be registered by then.

:eek:

Due to a schedule conflict that was unkown at the time i applied for the TX state rep spot for the USDGC, i will NOT be able to attend. My little sister will be visiting DFW part of the week of the USDGC. Sorry, family over fun. :) :mad: :)

Alex Hughes won the alternate spot, and he will need to sign up by Friday in order to secure his spot as the TX state rep. What a great choice! Go Alex!!!!!!

Looks like i'll be setting my sites on attending The Players Cup in November.

jm

Alex, Please get in touch with me.

YAAAAHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - Once again it is a lucky break & not skill level that gets me in. Good thing my 2005 tin cup hole has already happened! (the second to last at LOSO...a double circle 7 /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif )

I had not sen this thread before today - Atwood...you want in?

Gary, Thanks again for the endless work you have done as coordinator and for organizing the qualifying lottery. It seems like a very fair way to let those interested have a chance.

My Hero - as I said in a personal note to you earlier, I will do my best to represent Texas with the decorum and professionalism you have always shown on and off the course.

Until then, lets all cheer on the Texans playing this week in Pennsylvania!! (while I go practice putting!)

(while I go practice putting!)




.....with a Whippet! :) That's the color i'm talking about!!! Who needs yellow rope when you have Alex!!!

I agree that it is a good way to handle the Rep spot. Gives everyone a chance to represent this great state of Disc Golf!

Great choice on the Tx. rep.
Good luck Alex. :D

I thought we had a tournament to decide who gets the tx rep spot, isn't that how Mike and Mike got in last year?

Good luck to ya Alex. :D

Ummm...That was last year. It was a lottery system built on your performance from LOSO 04 to LOSO 05 this year. Get with the program. :)

Finally getting around to this.

Strictly point based. Based on performance against other Texans at B-Tiers or above in Texas from mid-July to mid-July.

LOSO has moved to the spring, the final event to be counted is the Coastal Clash. The winner has just 2 weeks to register before the cutoff for state reps.

Rules:
Winners receive 20 points at B-Tiers, 30 points at A-Tiers or above. Each place below that receives 1 point less.
All players receive at least 1 point for playing.
TDs get credit for winning unless they play in their event.
Only Texas players count. All other players are taken out of the results before finish order is calculated.
MPO, MPM, and MPG are eligible if they play the same layouts.

2005 Events:
Live Oak Summer Open '05
Coastal Clash '05
Outlaw Shootout
Mr. Jims
Oktoberfest
TX States '05 (A)
VPO Pro (A)
TX-10 Finals (A)
Piney Woods

2006 Events:
Big Show Cedar Hill
Big Show Z-Boaz (A)
Victoria Open
Red Rock Show
Pecan Park
TX States '06 (NT)
Paul Gyles Memorial
Live Oak Summer Open '06
Capitol of Texas Open
Waco Charity Open
Big Arms on the Brazos
Coastal Clash '06

21 events - 16 B-Tiers, 5 A-Tiers+
470 possible points.

If you go to all of the events and finish 10th (Texan) that's 260 points. 5th place will get you 365 points.

Leaders:
<table border="1"><tr><td>Player</td><td>PDGA</td><td>pts</td><td>back
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Olse</td><td>19362</td><td>272</td><td>-
</td></tr><tr><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>9152</td><td>253</td><td>19
</td></tr><tr><td>J.D. Ramirez*</td><td>19857</td><td>227</td><td>45
</td></tr><tr><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>5521</td><td>215</td><td>57
</td></tr><tr><td>Alex Downs</td><td>15217</td><td>210</td><td>62
</td></tr><tr><td>Dagon Owens*</td><td>14999</td><td>208</td><td>64
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Flesner</td><td>21684</td><td>183</td><td>89</tr></td></table>
* already qualified or the '06 USDGC.

There are still 4 events.
That's as much as 80 points if one of the front runners doesn't show up for an event (like Joel Kelly picking up 20 points on Mike Olse at LOSO where he tied for first and Mike didn't Play).

Full information will be posted on the LSDGA.com site after I rebuild my home computer.

Is that points list for this year? If so I think it may be wrong. :confused:

Ok I see the 05' scores go in as well. Too bad I was still an AM. :confused: Oh well I can still qualify the old fashioned way. :D

According to my unnofficial stats:
Mike has played 13 events and been in the top 4 in all but 3.
Joel has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
J.D. has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Vinnie has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Alex has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Dagon has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Chris has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 5.



Matt has played 9 events and been in the top 5 in all but 6. :D

According to my unnofficial stats:
Mike has played 13 events and been in the top 4 in all but 3.
Joel has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
J.D. has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Vinnie has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Alex has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Dagon has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Chris has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 5.



Matt has played 9 events and been in the top 5 in all but 6. :D



The only reasn I questioned them is that i thought they were only for the 06' events which I have played most of and would be ahead of some of those guys. Next year maybe. :D

According to my unnofficial stats:
Mike has played 13 events and been in the top 4 in all but 3.
Joel has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
J.D. has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Vinnie has played 12 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Alex has played 11 events and been in the top 5 in all but 2.
Dagon has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 4.
Chris has played 10 events and been in the top 5 in all but 5.



Matt has played 9 events and been in the top 5 in all but 6. :D




Actually I haved missed the top 5 seven times. BTW I plan on that changing but this year I am in the top 5 50% of my B tiers.

Gary, I am glad this is how the Rep is being decided because it means a little more then a lottery.

Just giving you a hard time. :cool:

You've done very well, you just need to get more B-Tiers down there.

<table border="1"><tr><td>Event</td><td>Div</td><td>Points</td><td>Finish
</td></tr><tr><td>Outlaws</td><td>MPO</td><td>13</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>TX States 05</td><td>MPO</td><td>24</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td>Piney Woods</td><td>MPO</td><td>12</td><td>9
</td></tr><tr><td>Big Show CH</td><td>MPO</td><td>14</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td>Z-Boaz Open</td><td>MPO</td><td>27</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>Victoria</td><td>MPO</td><td>18</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>Pecan Park</td><td>MPO</td><td>15</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>TX States 06</td><td>MPO</td><td>23</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>LOSO 06</td><td>MPO</td><td>14</td><td>7</tr></td></table>

Remember it's the top 5 Texas players, not the top 5 of the event itself.

True, well I don't know if Olse will play any other Nts so I hope he can get a spot. I figure that if I can't qualify in the 6 qualifiers I am playing this summer I just need to quit. :D

Hey if someone can pass along to Dagon Owen (and Emily) that the Panis family is trying to find him? He can reach us at [email protected] or 720-266-6214. Thanks much.

done....

Still working on getting the website updated.
Current standings after COTO.

Leaders:
<table border="1"><tr><td>Player</td><td>PDGA</td><td>pts</td><td>back
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Olse</td><td>19362</td><td>292</td><td>-
</td></tr><tr><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>9152</td><td>267</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>5521</td><td>234</td><td>58
</td></tr><tr><td>J.D. Ramirez*</td><td>19857</td><td>227</td><td>65
</td></tr><tr><td>Dagon Owens*</td><td>14999</td><td>226</td><td>66
</td></tr><tr><td>Alex Downs</td><td>15217</td><td>224</td><td>68
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Flesner</td><td>21684</td><td>183</td><td>109</tr></td></table>

Next event is Waco June 10-11th
Followed closely by Big Arms on June 17-18th
Then a break til the Corpus Christi Open (I like Coastal Clash better) Jul 15-16th.


Points from COTO:
<table border="1"><tr><td>Player</td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td>M. Olse</td><td>20
</td></tr><tr><td>V. Miller</td><td>19
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Torres</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>D. Owen</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>S. Hemmeline</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Perez</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Kelly</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>A. Downs</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>M. Hall</td><td>12
</td></tr><tr><td>M. Stevens</td><td>11
</td></tr><tr><td>D. Garcia</td><td>10
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Callis</td><td>9
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Hellman</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>J. McCaine</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>D. Vaughn</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>P. Lopez</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>S. Fosdick</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Zamora</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>L. Thompson</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>R. Hendrick</td><td>3</tr></td></table>
All the rest get 1 point.

Looks like Joel and Vinnie have a chance to catch Mike now that he's a Father. Congrats MO!

Just in time for Father's Day later this month. :cool:

Time is running out for the players chasing Mike Olse.

Mike finished ahead of the chasers at COTO and again at Waco.

He holds a 26 point lead with only BAB and CCO left in this season's race.

Top Standings after Waco
<table border="1"><tr><td>Name</td><td>PDGA</td><td>Pts</td><td>back
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Olse</td><td>19362</td><td>311</td><td>-
</td></tr><tr><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>9152</td><td>285</td><td>-26
</td></tr><tr><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>5521</td><td>245</td><td>-66
</td></tr><tr><td>J.D. Ramirez*</td><td>19857</td><td>244</td><td>-67
</td></tr><tr><td>Dagon Owen*</td><td>14999</td><td>240</td><td>-71
</td></tr><tr><td>Alex Downs</td><td>15217</td><td>224</td><td>-87
</td></tr><tr><td>Steven Hemmeline</td><td>23569</td><td>187</td><td>-124
</td></tr><tr><td>James McCaine</td><td>4206</td><td>183</td><td>-128
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Flesner</td><td>21684</td><td>183</td><td>-128
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerry Perez</td><td>9957</td><td>176</td><td>-135
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Hall</td><td>18133</td><td>172</td><td>-139
</td></tr><tr><td>Smokin Joe Torres</td><td>12196</td><td>133</td><td>-178
</td></tr><tr><td>Nolan Grider</td><td>13219</td><td>133</td><td>-178
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim Davidson*</td><td>16715</td><td>107</td><td>-204
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Farnham</td><td>17686</td><td>105</td><td>-206</tr></td></table>

COTO Scores
<table border="1"><tr><td>Div</td><td>Finish</td><td>Pts</td><td>PDGA</td><td>Name</td><td>Score
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>1</td><td>20</td><td>19362</td><td>Michael Olse</td><td>179
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>1</td><td>19</td><td>5521</td><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>181
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>2</td><td>18</td><td>12196</td><td>Smokin Joe Torres</td><td>183
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>2</td><td>18</td><td>14999</td><td>Dagon Owen</td><td>183
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>4</td><td>16</td><td>23569</td><td>Steven Hemmeline</td><td>184
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>2</td><td>15</td><td>9957</td><td>Jerry Lee Perez Sr</td><td>186
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>5</td><td>14</td><td>9152</td><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>187
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>5</td><td>14</td><td>15217</td><td>Alex Downs</td><td>187
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>7</td><td>12</td><td>18133</td><td>Matt Hall</td><td>189
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>8</td><td>11</td><td>15609</td><td>Jamie Callis</td><td>190
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>3</td><td>11</td><td>18342</td><td>Mark Stevens</td><td>190
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>4</td><td>9</td><td>21607</td><td>Dion Garcia</td><td>191
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>9</td><td>8</td><td>13732</td><td>Jeffrey Hellman</td><td>193
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>4206</td><td>James McCaine</td><td>196
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>10</td><td>6</td><td>16986</td><td>Pete Lopez</td><td>199
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>6511</td><td>David Vaughan</td><td>205
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>11</td><td>4</td><td>20375</td><td>Jimmy Zamora</td><td>206
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>7</td><td>4</td><td>6110</td><td>Shannon Fosdick</td><td>206
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>12</td><td>2</td><td>11034</td><td>Billy Moody</td><td>210
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>12</td><td>2</td><td>15596</td><td>Michael Ynfante</td><td>210
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>8</td><td>2</td><td>20095</td><td>Larry Thompson</td><td>210
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>5824</td><td>Robby Hendrick</td><td>210
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>5503</td><td>Edward Miller</td><td>211
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>11</td><td>1</td><td>20495</td><td>Mark Bowman</td><td>212
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>12</td><td>1</td><td>21772</td><td>Dale Nine Lives Hemmeline</td><td>213
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>13</td><td>1</td><td>200</td><td>Neal Dambra</td><td>216
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>14</td><td>1</td><td>15467</td><td>Jake Walsdorf</td><td>229</tr></td></table>


Waco Scores
<table border="1"><tr><td>Div</td><td>Finish</td><td>Pts</td><td>PDGA</td><td>Name</td><td>Score
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>1</td><td>20</td><td>13219</td><td>NOLAN GRIDER</td><td>201
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>2</td><td>19</td><td>19362</td><td>MICHAEL OLSE</td><td>204
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>3</td><td>18</td><td>9152</td><td>JOEL KELLY</td><td>207
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>4</td><td>17</td><td>19857</td><td>JD RAMIREZ</td><td>208
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>5</td><td>16</td><td>5521</td><td>VINNIE MILLER</td><td>209
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>1</td><td>15</td><td>4273</td><td>JEFF COOPER</td><td>211
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>6</td><td>14</td><td>14999</td><td>DAGON OWEN</td><td>212
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>7</td><td>13</td><td>23569</td><td>STEVEN HEMMELINE</td><td>214
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>2</td><td>13</td><td>9957</td><td>JERRY PEREZ</td><td>214
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>3</td><td>11</td><td>4206</td><td>JAMES MCCAINE</td><td>215
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>8</td><td>10</td><td>13732</td><td>JEFF HELLMAN</td><td>216
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>9</td><td>9</td><td>17686</td><td>CHRIS FARNHAM</td><td>219
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>9</td><td>9</td><td>9864</td><td>MIKE GRIDER</td><td>219
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>11</td><td>7</td><td>15494</td><td>CHRISTOPHER ALBERT</td><td>222
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>12</td><td>6</td><td>14300</td><td>DENNIE ORTEGA</td><td>223
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>1</td><td>5</td><td>2461</td><td>GLENN HALE</td><td>225
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>13</td><td>4</td><td>12650</td><td>PAT CANTRELL</td><td>226
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>11272</td><td>WILLY CASTANEDA</td><td>228
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>2</td><td>3</td><td>20495</td><td>MARK BOWMAN</td><td>228
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>14</td><td>1</td><td>11073</td><td>JUSTIN LANDERS</td><td>229
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>14</td><td>1</td><td>14627</td><td>BEN POOLE</td><td>229
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>16</td><td>1</td><td>12970</td><td>CHRIS WARE</td><td>231
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>4</td><td>1</td><td>6511</td><td>DAVID VAUGHAN</td><td>231
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>13448</td><td>BILLY NELSON</td><td>233
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>17</td><td>1</td><td>9603</td><td>JEFF DAVIS</td><td>234
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>4</td><td>1</td><td>200</td><td>NEAL DAMBRA</td><td>235
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>9661</td><td>DON MCGREGOR</td><td>236
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>2775</td><td>ROBBY BEACH</td><td>238
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>18</td><td>1</td><td>23939</td><td>MARCUS LUJAN</td><td>248
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>12375</td><td>WALTER RAYBURN</td><td>250
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>17259</td><td>CORKY DUNN</td><td>250
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>6922</td><td>SKIP MAXWELL</td><td>255
</td></tr><tr><td>MPG</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>12649</td><td>KEN CANTRELL</td><td>274</tr></td></table>

I could have hoped for a little more drama going into the last event, but it looks like Mike has wrapped this up early. Even if he fails to show, he has enough of a lead going into the last event that no one can catch him.

But please attend the Corpus Christi Open anyway along with all other sanctioned events you can.

Overall Standings After Big Arms
<table border="1"><tr><td>Points</td><td>PDGA</td><td>Name</td><td>back
</td></tr><tr><td>325</td><td>19362</td><td>Michael Olse</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>285</td><td>9152</td><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>-40
</td></tr><tr><td>264</td><td>19857</td><td>*J.D. Ramirez</td><td>-61
</td></tr><tr><td>251</td><td>14999</td><td>*Dagon Owen</td><td>-74
</td></tr><tr><td>245</td><td>5521</td><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>-80</tr></td></table>

Big Arms Results
<table border="1"><tr><td>Div</td><td>Fin</td><td>Pts</td><td>PDGA</td><td>Name</td><td>Score
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>1</td><td>20</td><td>19857</td><td>JD Ramirez</td><td>204
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>2</td><td>19</td><td>15024</td><td>Chris Pepperling</td><td>206
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>3</td><td>18</td><td>17407</td><td>Donald Ellsworth</td><td>213
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>1</td><td>17</td><td>7729</td><td>Marcus Roberts</td><td>215
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>2</td><td>16</td><td>14204</td><td>Kenny Lee</td><td>219
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>4</td><td>15</td><td>13219</td><td>Nolan Grider</td><td>220
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>5</td><td>14</td><td>19362</td><td>Michael Olse</td><td>221
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>6</td><td>13</td><td>9603</td><td>Jeff Davis</td><td>224
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>7</td><td>12</td><td>21684</td><td>Chris Flesner</td><td>225
</td></tr><tr><td>MPO</td><td>8</td><td>11</td><td>14999</td><td>Dagon Owen</td><td>226
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>3</td><td>10</td><td>14876</td><td>Kyle Norrid</td><td>228
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>4</td><td>9</td><td>22971</td><td>Bob Gann</td><td>238
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>5</td><td>8</td><td>7477</td><td>Brian Mace</td><td>249</tr></td></table>