Feb 07 2005, 03:04 PM
Holgate was nice enough to send me a couple of samples of the Supreme Juju recently and I finally got the chance to throw them this last weekend. I didn't get to really, fully test them out so these are just initial impressions but I figured I'd share them.
I got two discs, one "creamy" ~170g Supreme Juju and one "soft" ~165g Supreme Juju.
The "creamy" Juju seems to be their equivalent of other brand's high end, TPU blends of plastic. It's farily slick and perhaps a bit domier than the Fusion plastic. The stiffness is similar to the Fusion. So far it seems to be very durable. No marks to speak of yet and no tacoing. The one I have is kind of a cloudy, milky, white that's somewhat transluscent. Imagine a disc that's cloudy like a Swirl APX but transluscent. It looks pretty cool and I'd like to see it in other colors. It performs almost exactly like I expected. It's a bit faster than a Fusion Juju and just the slightest bit more overstable. I threw mostly air bounce approach shots with it and it flew just as straight as the Fusion with a very subtle and gradual fade at the end. IMO, that's the type of shot the Juju really excells at.
The "soft" Juju is quite a bit different. The one I have is light (I normally throw heavy putters) and very floppy. It's at least as floppy as a Blowfly. It almost feels like I could turn it inside out but I haven't tried that yet. The one I have is tinted slightly green, it almost looks like it should glow in the dark and it's very transluscent. The plastic is quite a bit tackier than the "creamy" version and feels a bit softer. So far it's also been very durable. My shots that hit the rim of the basket didn't leave any marks. It seems to remember its original shape well even though it's so flexable, too.
I'm not used to throwing putters that light or floppy (I throw a X-Putt'r which is soft, but not incredibly floppy) so it took me a few tries to figure it out. All I did was putt with it and it flies very straight when thrown like that. There is a bit of fade when thrown slow but it doesn't skip or skid. I'm not sure it will be a disc that will roll away very well either. When it hit the chains it stopped really well, too. The only problem I found was if you hit the chains up higher it had a higher chance of bouncing off rather than penetrating in and sticking. However, if you hit the chains off to the side it tended to drop rather than kick out.
If you like floppy putters it's definately worth checking out. Even if you don't it also would make a very good catch disc especally for novices or people who are scared to catch a disc. It also seems like it would work well for approach shots where you really want the disc to stop near the basket. I haven't had a chance to throw it harder so I'm not sure how it handles speed yet.
I got two discs, one "creamy" ~170g Supreme Juju and one "soft" ~165g Supreme Juju.
The "creamy" Juju seems to be their equivalent of other brand's high end, TPU blends of plastic. It's farily slick and perhaps a bit domier than the Fusion plastic. The stiffness is similar to the Fusion. So far it seems to be very durable. No marks to speak of yet and no tacoing. The one I have is kind of a cloudy, milky, white that's somewhat transluscent. Imagine a disc that's cloudy like a Swirl APX but transluscent. It looks pretty cool and I'd like to see it in other colors. It performs almost exactly like I expected. It's a bit faster than a Fusion Juju and just the slightest bit more overstable. I threw mostly air bounce approach shots with it and it flew just as straight as the Fusion with a very subtle and gradual fade at the end. IMO, that's the type of shot the Juju really excells at.
The "soft" Juju is quite a bit different. The one I have is light (I normally throw heavy putters) and very floppy. It's at least as floppy as a Blowfly. It almost feels like I could turn it inside out but I haven't tried that yet. The one I have is tinted slightly green, it almost looks like it should glow in the dark and it's very transluscent. The plastic is quite a bit tackier than the "creamy" version and feels a bit softer. So far it's also been very durable. My shots that hit the rim of the basket didn't leave any marks. It seems to remember its original shape well even though it's so flexable, too.
I'm not used to throwing putters that light or floppy (I throw a X-Putt'r which is soft, but not incredibly floppy) so it took me a few tries to figure it out. All I did was putt with it and it flies very straight when thrown like that. There is a bit of fade when thrown slow but it doesn't skip or skid. I'm not sure it will be a disc that will roll away very well either. When it hit the chains it stopped really well, too. The only problem I found was if you hit the chains up higher it had a higher chance of bouncing off rather than penetrating in and sticking. However, if you hit the chains off to the side it tended to drop rather than kick out.
If you like floppy putters it's definately worth checking out. Even if you don't it also would make a very good catch disc especally for novices or people who are scared to catch a disc. It also seems like it would work well for approach shots where you really want the disc to stop near the basket. I haven't had a chance to throw it harder so I'm not sure how it handles speed yet.