This is a Question for Backhand Drives

I've been reading up on some of the driving articles. Do you use the reach back (disk stays in a straight line) method or the bent elbow method?

Also...if you use the bent elbow method, do use use an X-step. I've been trying out different throws and I have a hard time keeping coordinated with X-step and bent elbow technique.

Very carefully. No the way I learned to drive was without an X-step, learned my technique, and finally started with the X-step. Luckily I had good form from the beginning and developed almost no bad habits. Too bad I can't say the same for my dad. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I use the traditional 3 step/x-step approach and thow with a bent elbow. I cant do that huge reachback throw like the 450' + throwers do. I am built good for disc golf (6' 175 lbs) tall and skinny, and am pretty athletic. I have been told that I look like I should be able to throw 450' + but my technique just doesn't produce enough arm speed for that to happen. Right now I can only throw around 375' consistantly. Hopefully next year some of the pros in my club can teach me a better technique for more distance.

The key to distance is form for example I'm 5'9 142lbs. but I can throw 450+ on a fairly consistant basis. I also helps that I live in TX :D:D

fast

Beware for I am EL Diablo. :D:D
My discs are like razors slicing through the dense texas air careening towards a course near you. :confused: :confused:

Total reach back, with arm extended the whole time. Try to think of your arm as a golf club, you hand the club head, and the disc the ball. (generic golf reference but it works). You need alot of arm speed to get over 400ft.

Even though I can consistently throw over 400ft, even sometimes reaching 450, my form is rather poor. Instead of keeping my arm up and using my back and turn my body, I pull from my waist, wasting a good 25% of my distance. Everyonce in a while I will get my arm up an usually over drive our 412ft hole, leaving myself with a 20-30ft putt back to the pin.

If you want too look like a golfer instead of an ultimate player, I would suggest to stop using an arm curl. And if you are getting 375 with a bent elbow you should easily break 400 once you straighten out your arm.

Don't listen to Matt. He can't drive yet.

Yeah I need to get my permit. :confused: :D:confused:

Take the test and you should be able to drive far, any day of the week. :D

I would say that i use a bent elbow technique. I keep the disc in real close to my chest on reachback and the disc is vertical for almost my entire reachback. I then flatten the disc and pull threw. I can consistenly throw over 450 and have good accuracy to about 400-415. My big just power drives in open fields can get out to about 550+ and no this isnt message board distance. I really dont know the difference between the bent elbow or the straight arm technique but from what i am reading i would have to say i use the bent elbow technique. I have a very slow and controlled 4 step run up and i use the X step. From what people tell me the reason i can throw so far is because i have tremendous snap and SUPER FAST arm speed.

Dont know if that helped you or not but thats how i throw and im really bored at work so i figured id post :D

I'm farily new and I find I have the most control and get the best distance with the bent elbow technique. Plus it sounds like something out of a Kung-fu movie...so that's a bonus. I don't doubt that there's more distance potential with a full reach back, but I'm not comfortable enough with my consistancy to move to that yet.

I use a 3 step x-step with a couple of little shuffle steps to get my rythm going. I'd estimate that my longest drives are somewhere in the 370' range.

I am not discounting the probable distance with a bent elbow, infact you can get alot of distance without even using your upper arm. We have a local pro whose arm never leaves his side when he drives, he just pops out his forearm (RHBH) and can throw 550ft. But he at one time was one of the best ultimate players in the nation. So his forearms are monsters.

Also, if done correctly, which takes practice, the "straight arm" throw is more accurate and is less prone to releases with the nose up, which would tend to cause the disc to hyzer off too early.

But definately do what ever works for you. And don't go changing form/technique before a big tournament.

We shall see how my form and new putting works out in Vegas and Scottsdale. Hope i can pull off some good numbers :D I just feel more comfortable with the bent elbow technique. I am alot less accurate when i try to keep my arm straight. Who knows though ill just stick with this because it works for me :D

Maybe You'll have some success in some other state, but when you come back to Michigan, I'll be waiting ready to destroy you on the course :cool:

I drive recklessly

Mills talks this 550+ game but didn't clear 500 at worlds. :confused: :D:confused:

For short drives - a short starter step and plant step, 2 fingertips under the rim, bent elbow.

For long drives (still only 350-400) - one starter step, one pivot step, and a plant step, 3 fingertips under, bent elbow.

Thumb on the edge all the time.

I still cannot throw over 400, but I played all last summer with only one disc (Xpress until I started to turn it over, then XS, Now Crush) so that I learned to CONTROL it and I rarely make a mistake now. I didn't chose a disc to achieve the flight pattern I want, I MAKE the disc fly how I need it to now.

I woke up hung over as balls and didnt even have any of my own discs. Sorry i was 8 ft short of 500 :mad:

What can you do. Im not worried about it. I know how far i can throw :D

I am not discounting the probable distance with a bent elbow, infact you can get alot of distance without even using your upper arm.

Also, if done correctly, which takes practice, the "straight arm" throw is more accurate and is less prone to releases with the nose up, which would tend to cause the disc to hyzer off too early.

But definately do what ever works for you.



I'm pretty sure bent elbow uses upper arm muscles. The arm is just in a different orientation when doing so. I have heard of people being incredibly accurate with bent elbow and driving far. Seems no matter what technique you use, you need to get timing and feel down for accuracy. It seems like moving the disc over a bigger distance with a reach back throw grants more potential for a bigger snap and more speed, but the bent elbow seems like it might make rotational speed of the body on its axis down the spine easier...

I'd definitely agree what it comes down to is do what is best for you. I'd reccommend reach back for beginners.

I had one driver of my own, three of my dad's, and a lost and found disc and you got me by 18ft. I'm trembling in my little space boots. :D:D

See you had one of your own discs. You had an advantage on me. Plus you prolly werent hung over like i was :D

Why didn't you guys have your discs?

I drive recklessly


I used to drive offensively - as if I had the ball and was using my blockers! Now, I've come to apprciate the 'grandpa' style...and am wondering why everyone is in such a hurry to wait at the next stoplight... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :p

I had lost some the day before and all I had were my putters and backup discs with me. :confused: :confused:

I drive recklessly



Hands and 10 and 2 helps

Why didn't you guys have your discs?



All my friends were passed out from partying and my discs were locked in the van :mad:

You have excuses for everything.A disc is a disc.I can throw anyones disc as far as my own, bent arm or strait.If I dont then I didnt, I dont need a truckfull of excuses nor do I need to constently remind people that I can. 400-450ft, on a good day,maybe more, maybe less.I really dont think size matters, Its all technique, and what works for you.I play with a shorter guy that can launch them pretty far.

I play with a shorter guy that can launch them pretty far.



Chase,

Don't you also play with a bigger guy who can't launch them far? Maybe you haven't played with him lately since he has been on the couch watching his beloved Steelers.

Indeed I do. I forsee him off the couch soon as the Steelers are going to LOSE to the Patriots.

Chase,

Well, that would certainly make for an unhappy weekend! After his Hawkeyes lost to Illinois, a loss by the Steelers might be too much to take...

I also play with a guy who takes one step and smashes it. Also,I play with the FARTHEST THROWING AM AT WORLDS. He was also using a few discs that belonged to other people, doesnt cry about it and threw FARTHER in WARM UPS then he did in the CONTEST.Since they are friends and I talk about it though,Im sure some dumb jerk-off will bring up the fact that it ISNT me and thats all good.

You calling me a dumb jerk-off???

If you are you might want to watch where you are slinging those comments ;)

Why? If I am? Are you self -consious?

Yeah., the Hawks almost pulled off a miracle.If that would have happened I could never call him or send another email.Id probaly become a hermit.

Not at all i was just wondering because when i whoop you this year i would like to come on the board and tell everyone how Chase likes to run his mouth and call people names on the board but when he gets on the course he gets his rear end handed to him :eek:

I know that some people think im a dumb jerkoff but i could care less about those people. They obviously dont really know me and like the saying goes. "The people who matter dont mind and the people who mind dont matter"

DiscPimp OUT

That would be fine except the fact that I dont recall saying Id be beating anyone.I dont have to say it. If and when we play its all good, win or lose.wont be the Memorial,though, It looks like I wont make it after all.Good Luck, and I will see you,as long as your as good as you talk.Or if Im worse then I said, maybe we'll get paired random, but I doubt it.Either way you owe me a pinned 450ft drive,as I recall.This is how Ive met some cool people and some real $*#^talkers.I have no personal problems with you other then your excuses.

"The people who matter dont mind and the people who mind dont matter"

Figures something like that would come from you. Lets try to be more conciderate of the people that mind. Maybe this way the sport won't have a bad rap chained to it. Seriously dude.

Im sorry for turning this into a bad thread.I apologize to Pimp for him having to make more dumb comments then neccasary, please dont turn this into a attack thread, Im just in a salty mood.

The Hawks almost pulled off a miracle? A completely overrated Illinois team BARELY beating a ranked conference foe AT HOME??? Ughh....I cannot wait until you guys play us again, at OUR HOME. At least we wont have to see your ugly orange overalls, or have to listen to Brent Musberger's biased commentary.

"The people who matter dont mind and the people who mind dont matter"

Figures something like that would come from you. Lets try to be more conciderate of the people that mind. Maybe this way the sport won't have a bad rap chained to it. Seriously dude.



First off, its a true statement. Second off this sport doesnt have a bad rap because of me or because of that statement. This sport has a bad rap because it has a bunch of ignorant dumb ***** dope smokers and alcoholics in it (no im not calling all dope smokers and drinkers dumb and ignorant. im more refering to the casualy that pollute our local courses) who could give a SH#T less about anything but themselves and they think they should be able to blaze up at tournaments and in front of peoples children and just do whatever they want because "Its just disc golf."

The bad rap isnt there because people think all disc golfers are "dumb jerkoffs". The bad rap comes because people think all disc golfers are stupid dope smoking idiots who dont care about the environment and just want to litter and smoke pot and drink and act like a bunch of idiots in public parks around the country.

Third off i was just talkin smack to Chase and wasnt serious in the least bit. I like to talk a little smack on the board it makes the competition when you finally meet a little bit more intense :D

First off, its a true statement. Second off this sport doesnt have a bad rap because of me or because of that statement. This sport has a bad rap because it has a bunch of ignorant dumb ***** dope smokers and alcoholics in it (no im not calling all dope smokers and drinkers dumb and ignorant. im more refering to the casualy that pollute our local courses) who could give a SH#T less about anything but themselves and they think they should be able to blaze up at tournaments and in front of peoples children and just do whatever they want because "Its just disc golf."



That must be the worst generalization ive ever heard. It is absolutely absurd to say that people "blaze up in front of children" "just because its disc golf." Nobody does anything, being legal or illegal, "just because its disc golf."

This is true, but I understand where Pimps coming from.I think he been talking to Bruce Brakel to long though, as according to him in a previous post he made, I beleve, similar comments to me when I said that dope smoking on tour was almost non exsistent.For me it was, although I didnt play in many tourneys it was never a issue for me.Im completely being honest and as Ive said before I have 3ft dreadlocks, so smokers gravitate towards me as if I was a dope magnet, and It was Never a issue in my groups.If I am misrepresenting Bruce I sincerly apologize,as I am going on memory.Personally, Ive curbed many habits in light of the games representation, but what goes on between rounds is noones business.Before this previous year I had encountered many "smoking in front of kids,smoking in front of non smokers,and a lack of respect for the card that doesnt want you smoking grass,I didnt see this last year.I wouldnt have cared either way, but I didnt see it.It had nothing to do with disc golfing but It is a common misconception that all disc golfers are potheads.Thats another story though.

My text format was conflicting with the boards HTML rules. I made some changes and my post is below.

trying to get the trhread back on track. I throw my driver all different ways. I have learned alot of different techniques because they all do something different. My trick is, As sooon as I learn one technique pretty good, I switch to a new one. Now I can throw with a reach back,. curled elbow, run up, X-step, Side arm And tomahawk. Not to much into pancakes. The thing is you must be versitile to be able to pull shots out of your asz....bag I meen.

Agreed. I use multiple forms and although its not neccasarily good, I adjust for the hole and elements.If one way isnt working the other usaully will.Same with putting.

It is very unfortunante that there is the "pothead" misconception among disc golfers. There are people who are disrespectful and do drugs in every other sport too.

We actually were denied a course in a local community, after we had already staked out the holes and were in negoitations over installation costs with the park department. Because the neighboorhood assoication direct quote "did not want those type of people, or that type of activity happening in their back yard".

Sorry no more thread drift

the "pothead" misconception is our own fault. i'd even go as far as saying that it isn't a misconception, just a "not so far from the truth" generalization. in my experience, a larger majority of disc golfers smoke than in any other sport. only in disc golf can you be playing with a group in a tournament, and have some random person whom you don't know pull out a pipe and just start getting high. i can tell you i never experienced this in any other sport before. i'm not saying "everyone" experiences this (though a majority do) and that even most disc golfers smoke weed, i'm simply saying there is a direct correlation between smoking weed and playing disc golf. as much as we'd all like to deny it, a large majority of disc golfer smoke. you can say that maybe its just me whos seen this (it isn't), but if you haven't, you're the exception... as it goes with any hypothesis, statistically speaking their will be some deviation from this, but not enough to void the hypothesis that "a majority of disc golfers smoke". i have found this true in every tournament, everywhere, in league, etc.

if we don't want this quote un quote "misconception", maybe we all just need to not smoke during, before, directly after, and between rounds...

just a thought

First off, its a true statement. Second off this sport doesnt have a bad rap because of me or because of that statement. This sport has a bad rap because it has a bunch of ignorant dumb ***** dope smokers and alcoholics in it (no im not calling all dope smokers and drinkers dumb and ignorant. im more refering to the casualy that pollute our local courses) who could give a SH#T less about anything but themselves and they think they should be able to blaze up at tournaments and in front of peoples children and just do whatever they want because "Its just disc golf."



That must be the worst generalization ive ever heard. It is absolutely absurd to say that people "blaze up in front of children" "just because its disc golf." Nobody does anything, being legal or illegal, "just because its disc golf."



no ***** aaron, i'd blaze up in front of children if i was playing disc golf or not :D

joking...

seriously though, we should get back on topic :D

I usually have my best drives when I am calm and relaxed. Usually after I have smoked a........cigarette. :D Lets not forget to drink a beer before we get started to. With these elements and mother nature, I just get tuned in. Cant believe people would do these things in a populated environment. There is a time and a place for everything. Courses out here are pretty big and the Austin seen has alot of pot heads (in general) no doubt. One thing that is for certain in these parts is the bad seeds are few and far between. The vibe in my area is very respectful and I have never been to a city with the same atmosphere. I might drink while I drive (my orc) but I would never break a law in front of strangers or children.

With that said, (and this is all my opinion) my drives are kicking tale now. My putts on the other hand are a different story. Maybe I should change my name to parkn2putt. :D

In tournaments its illegal and will get you booted.In everyday life its illegal and will get you arrested.If you only care about one of them, pick the tourneys.I do what I do off the course because I dont care about Marijuana laws or the police that enforce them.I do however like tournaments and places to play and want people to feel the same,but Im not your dad or your lawyer, so do as you like at home.

exactly! seriously, if you can't handle not smoking on the course or at the tournament, you probably have a problem...
if you value being able to get high more than playing disc golf (especially at a tournament) then maybe you shouldn't be playing...

"in my experience, a larger majority of disc golfers smoke than in any other sport. only in disc golf can you be playing with a group in a tournament, and have some random person whom you don't know pull out a pipe and just start getting high."

Would'nt this get you kick out of a tourney? I have never seen this happen in a tourney, but I am also a newb. Maybe everyone should live in Texas. That would improve there aspect of morals and improve there drive. :o

If no one sees you is it wrong? If you have respect for others say offer, or sneek off into the woods.If no one sees ya. :)

no im not calling all dope smokers and drinkers dumb and ignorant. im more refering to the casualy that pollute our local courses



Did anyone read this part of the post or did you just skip that???

Now i would like to say BS people dont do it because its JUST DISC GOLF. I cant tell you how many times ive been in a tournament and people just whip out a pipe and start toking away. Then you say something like "what do you think your doing" then they come back with " take it easy man we are just playing disc golf".

Im going to make a statement right here and now. If you are in my group at anytournaments this year and you just light up or just start drinking during the round you are going to be reported to the TD and the PDGA and they will handle it how they see fit. I have nothing against drinking or smoking the herb because i myself do both but i know there is a time and a place for them and tournaments ARE NOT THE TIME NOR THE PLACE. So im letting you all know here and now. If you want to break the rules while playing a tournament round with me you will pay the price. I love this sport way to much to let a bunch of inconsiderate Aholes ruin it before it can become what I and many other passionate players think it will be.

With that being said i also agree that its not a misconception really. I would also say though that its the CASUAL players not the TOURNAMENT players that give us a bad rap. The CASUAL players are the ones who litter the course with beer cans and ciggarette butts and empty ziplock baggies and all that other TRASH that you see on the freakin course. Dont get me wrong some of these AHOLES are TOURNAMENT players as well but i think the majority are CASUAL (lets get a case and a bag of dope and go throw some discs cuz its free guys) players that just have no respect for the sport of its image they just play because it something to do that they can get drunk and stoned while doing.

Thats all i have to say about that. Lets get back to how people drive.

Disc Pimp out :D

This thread has drifted from talk of 550+ foot drives, the NFL, college basketball, and drugs in only two pages. Can I add in some politics?


Maybe everyone should live in Texas. That would improve there aspect of morals and improve there drive. :o



Living in Texas didn't help W's morals or his driving. He was arrested for drunk driving in 1976, and his Evangelical "morals" are on display, unfortunately, for another 4 years.

I played in an unsanctioned Ice Bowl doubles event a few years ago. After the 2-minute warning but before teeing off, one of the players on our card grabbed his pipe. Another player on our card (who I think is a police officer, but I'm not positive) said, "You'd better not do that." The guy with the pipe in hand said, "Why this tournament isn't sanctioned?" To which the other player responded, "No, it's not sanctioned, but what's in that pipe is still illegal."

i drive using a 4 step x step in general. I can throw around 380 with just 4 steps. I would say i throw with a bent elbow technique,not sure. The most important part of driving is being smooth. Thats all i really think about when im throwing.

i use an x step with no leading steps... but i can only drive 325-350 on average... so don't listen to me! :D

Im going to make a statement right here and now. If you are in my group at anytournaments this year and you just light up or just start drinking during the round you are going to be reported to the TD and the PDGA and they will handle it how they see fit. So im letting you all know here and now. If you want to break the rules while playing a tournament round with me you will pay the price...I love this sport way to much to let a bunch of inconsiderate Aholes ruin it before it can become what I and many other passionate players think it will be.

Disc Pimp out :D

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Wow, I actually agree with a lot of what the Pimp had to say. Rack him.

I go out to my home nine-hole once a week and pick up a garbage bag full of trash. I can also tell you that, other than me, there are NO tournament players playing this course (seriously). So I totally agree with Pimp's last post, all of it. Make sure that you are legal around me as well.

i use an x step with no leading steps... but i can only drive 325-350 on average... so don't listen to me! :D


yeah i normally do some leading steps but the last round i played i got really frustrated b/c i was not throwing far with these extra steps, and i had poor accuracy. I tried 4 steps and parked a 384 foot hole twice in a row.

i know of a couple of pros and plenty of top advanced people who get high at tournaments, my friend even sold a bag to and smoked with a top pro at last years legion of doom and at the dsm open... i've seen the td getting high during a tournament before even...

not saying its right, i'm saying the exact opposite, i smoke and drank and everyting, i just agree with cbdiscpimp or whatever his name is now, we all need to leave that where it belongs (away from the course) because if we continue to perpetuate this stereotype of all disc golfers being crazy drunken stoners, of course the sport wont grow to the next level or ever reach the level that we all want it to. if you smoke, do it at home before you come to the tournament, i know some people try to be considerate (somewhat) and do itin their cars or between rounds and what not, thats a nice gesture, but its too little, you just need to leave the chon and beer at home... imo

Let's call a truce before things get 'more' outta hand here. Whatta y'all say? :cool:

Thank you guys for having my back. This is what we need to do to get our sport where I KNOW most of us want it. In the MAINSTREAM or atleast where snowboarding is at right now. We have to enforce our rules no matter what people think or what people say. Thats all there is to it. If you dont have rules or people who respect and obey those rules then we will continually be looked at as a STONER SPORT which is never going to go anywhere.

Thanks for the feedback guys

DiscPimp out

Tourneys are one thing but casual golf is another. This issue I believe will always be a problem. The step to correct it is to not be hypacritical (is that spelled right?). It looks fine on the boards but as we all know, the majority of us are just out having fun during casual golf. How can we expect everyone to be a good citizen? The newbs dont help much but I used to be in the exact same place. I use to grab a case and get tore up on the green jamming tunes and acting a fool. This was wrong and inconciderate. We have all been there (maybe or maybe not) and need to figure out how to adress the issue without causing turmoil and possibly of turning future golfers away from the sport. Truth is, current hippies want to throw discs to. These public parks are for everyone and some things will be tolerated. When they are'nt the parks traffic will die down tremendously because of people not feeling like they are having a good time but having to watch there butts. I know if there were police hanging out at a park, I would drive to the next one. Just my personal opinion.

I will just drive and drive and drive...........

At 10 and 2

fast!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the right side, top down, windows down, hat backwards, sun glasses on, above 4k rpm.

Oh, and RHBH.

Good points Grunion.I didnt ever have a chance to act the fool,the people I learned with were already past that stage and Id already been arrested in several city parks for drinking long before I started golfing.They are also {for the most part} smart about puffing on the course.The "serious topic , please vote " thread has been revived for continuing Marijuana banter.Please continue to post your feelings and views there.

I have been doing the x-step since about my 3rd-month of disc golf. i have been playing for about 3.5 years. I find it to be the most efficient for distance and control. It also gives a great plant so you can really get a good rip out there. If you don't plant you will just get injured or no distance. The x-step is very hard to master at first, you might even fall. Yet, the effort is worth it and your game will definitely improve over time if you can master it. :cool:

This is not the only type of drive I do though...

I do turnaround drives for getting around obstacles that are right off of the teepad. you really have to be focused otherwise you will forget where you are! :D

Rollers are a whole different thing, it also depends what you are rolling. When rolling a stratus or stingray, all you have to do is drive, slightly differently than a regular drive. With a Flash or a Valkyrie you have to get on it hard. I stick with the XL because the Flash and Valkyrie are just too hard to control = no consistency. :(

This is true: At a tournament last year, my bud #24345 was playing intermediate at Flip City, I believe, with this fat piece of shi+ in his group. This ****** had his little boy with him during the round. He rolls up a doob and just starts cheefin away in front of his own 7-10 year old. It was pretty disgusting and after my bud told me I wanted to find the guy and **** all over him. This makes me so mad that I think this year I will turn over a new leaf . Also, me and the cass benton pimp are gonna tear up courses around the nation in 05.

This is true: At a tournament last year, my bud #24345 was playing intermediate at Flip City, I believe, with this fat piece of shi+ in his group. This ****** had his little boy with him during the round. He rolls up a doob and just starts cheefin away in front of his own 7-10 year old. It was pretty disgusting and after my bud told me I wanted to find the guy and **** all over him. This makes me so mad that I think this year I will turn over a new leaf and only consume illegal substances before and after rounds. Also, me and the cass benton pimp are gonna tear up courses around the nation in 05.



I agree, but you could tone it down a little and omit the "fat piece of and **** all over" stuff.

understandable, but the guy is ruining a life because he's lazy. don't you get mad when you hear this?

exactly, i said that i totally agree, but the language in your post isn't conducive to the goals of the pdga (i.e. attracting new members, not offending current members, and furtherment of the sport), everything we say on this board, in a way, represents the organization an dthe sport.. just a thought man...

Also, me and the cass benton pimp are gonna tear up courses around the nation in 05.



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but you can learn to control your reactions.

We play because we love to play (http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/anger.html)

huh??? :confused:

huh??? :confused:



Yeah what Kid_Roc said :confused:

So in order for one to drive correct.y they must be educated in anger management.. Nice point flying G. Who would have thought?

Thank you guys for having my back. This is what we need to do to get our sport where I KNOW most of us want it. In the MAINSTREAM or atleast where snowboarding is at right now. DiscPimp out



Did anyone else find that snowboarding comment hilarious?

I have no problem with people smoking or drinking at tourneys; their game/skills usually goes up in smoke after...that is why I don't do it...hahahaha
I wouldn't call it a performance enhancing drug...but it still is illegal.

Anyway I use an X-Step and pull through very close to my chest, I can throw about 375' with very good accuracy. Once I strart trying to bomb it farther I lose accuracy exponentially.
I like and play mostly tight wooded courses though....
Cheers,
Matt

SMOOTHZ :D

Straight and Smooooothh!

Wow...

This Thread certainly evolved into some interesting discussion. So, given that some people drink and smoke while playing disc golf,....how do you drive. lol