What is the relative effect of the wind coming from different directions on a disc? Esp. Drivers? If I have a headwind or left to right or right to left, how do I need to compensate the angle of my disc?
from what I have found, a tailwind will make your disc drop faster, a headwind, makes your disc rise, a left to right for a RHBH thrower, you can throw a more overstable disc and have it stay striaighter longer, where as a right to left wind, you can throw a less stable disc and have it stay striaghter longer.
So really you can use the same type of disc and just release with more or less hyzer, to suit the wind.
Headwind.
Drivers/midranges: Generally will cause the disc to turnover and/or flip on edge. If a fast driver into a head wind gets too high with nose up, it will hyzer off to the left.
Putters: If the nose is up, it will pick up the disc and actually make the disc fly further past the basket then without wind.
Tailwind:
Drivers/midrange: Causes discs to fade left (RHBH) generally. Understable discs may not turn over with a strong tail wind.
Putter: Can cause the disc to be pushed down too fast missing the putt low.
A cross wind.
On the facing (top) side, wind will push the disc down faster.
On the trailing (bottom) side, wind will push the disc further then desired.
Your best off throwing overstable discs in windy conditions, and to keep them from getting too high in the air. The flatter the release the better. This should keep your wind problems from becoming wind disasters.
dave_marchant
Jan 17 2005, 01:20 AM
It is actually pretty simple.
CROSS WIND COMPONENT: If the wind gets under the disc due to the upwind edge of the disc being higher then the downwind edge, it will lift it and/or push it further than it would go in still conditions. Visa versa when the upwind side is lower than the downwind edge.
DOWNWIND/UPWIND COMPONENT: One other effect that combines with this is the "relative" speed of the disc. AKA the airspeed disc itself is experiencing. For example, noodle arm me throws 160 gram Orcs for distance. Big arms laugh at me saying they are way too flippy. They overpower those light weight discs. When throwing into a headwind, I get the relative speed, or airspeed, that the big arms acheive and my 160 Orc gets way too flippy. So I need to throw something more overstable - which happens to be a disc a big arm would use to drive with in still conditions. A new, heavy Orc or Beast or TeeBird or a Firebird (in really heavy winds).
The opposite is true when throwing downwind. The slower relative airspeed caused by the tailwind puts discs into the lowspeed fade quickly. So, you need to throw more understable discs down wind than you thow in still conditions.
Combine the CROSSWIND and DOWN/UPWIND effects (a little trigonometry comes in handy) to match the wind you are facing and chose your disk accordingly. (Trig is good, but you still need to execute!) Then, practice and experiment to help you learn what discs work for you in different wind conditions.
Swirls and gusts, etc are a whole other unpredicatable element that you have to deal with. In general, heavy discs are more immune to the effects of winds than lighter ones. Beyond that advice, I have little to add. There are others that know much more than me about good wind-immune discs than I do.
Archemike
Jan 17 2005, 04:14 PM
With putting...
when throwing with a tailwind, throw higher cause it will just drop. When putting with a headwind, not necessarily throw softer, but throw nose down so you don't go over the basket.
Chris Hysell
Jan 17 2005, 07:15 PM
wind makes disc golf easier
greenbeard
Jan 17 2005, 07:30 PM
the poison level of that sarcasm is banned in 14 states
I've had very supernatural things happen to my discs that other players try to attribute to the wind.
Even if they don't believe me when I tell them it was the hand of God that guided my disc over one branch then under another and then back up over the third, what is the wind but the hand of God?
bschweberger
Jan 25 2005, 05:06 AM
Headwind just throw a Firebird
Tailwind throw an Orc or a Flippy Midrange.
esalazar
Jan 25 2005, 09:01 AM
yes and yes!! depends on the wind and individual snap!! if not explain!!
Ken Climo wrote a great "how to" about putting on www.kenclimo.com (http://www.kenclimo.com) . he goes in depth about putting into the wind and gives alot of examples about what winds will do what to your putt.