<font color="purple">Innova Champion Discs presents: </font>
<font color="red"> The 27th Annual Wintertime Open </font> (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/)
<font color="blue"> This years event will be held on February 12 &amp; 13 for the Amateurs and February 19 &amp; 20 for Professionals </font>

The players package will include a t-shirt and disc for all players. This is the first event of the year so please join PDGA and So Cal as soon as possible. You will need proof of membership with you to get the discounted entry or join prior to the event.

Tee off is scheduled for 8:30am each day. Two rounds of 27 holes will be played on Saturday and one round on Sunday with a final nine for the open pro division and the Advanced Amateur division to follow. There will be limited numbers of tournament fundraising discs available for sale.

<font color="red"> THERE WILL BE NO ENTRY ON THE DAY OF THE EVENT</font> 27th Annual Wintertime Open Sign-Up (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/sub-pages/Forms2005/Entry_Wintertime2005.pdf)

Sweet...Already signed up...First tourney on the West Coast Swing, I'm starting in Hawaii though...Leaving in 10 days :cool:

Sweet...Already signed up...First tourney on the West Coast Swing, I'm starting in Hawaii though...Leaving in 10 days :cool:




happy birthday to my favorite blue named poster!

Happy Birthday DVINCENT.

Happy Birthday Dave!

KG

Take down that **** Jets Helmet Rhett!!!! I hope I see that kicker kid walkin round dowtown SanDiego Im gonna kick his [*****] :D

YOU ALL BETTER HOPE IT STOPS RAINING AROUND HERE BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH WATER @ THE COURSE THAT 3 OF THE NORMAL HOLES ARE UNDER WATER(UNPLAYABLE).....C.BLAMPAIN

Holy crap! Who gave Blampain a computer????

:D

Good to see you on board, Chris. I hope everything is good with you.

Thanks EVERYBODY! :D

Take down that **** Jets Helmet Rhett!!!!


I will when those dang Jets lose. Hopefully it's pretty soon.

They will lose this week :mad:

How many holes are under water after today's storm?

1 More Month til The 27th Annual Wintertime Open...Better sign up now :o

Anyone know how registration is filling up?

Any word on the status of the 2 meter rule for the 27th Wintertime Open????



Studman Mark,

I'm sure it will be in effect...Nobody really wants to play a tourney where bad shots are rewarded :D

The 2 meter rule will be in effect suckas /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

What's up with the So Cal site not being maintained? Where are the results from the Ice Bowl...Where are the pre regs for the Wintertime?...

Dave,

that's one of things i hated about socal. Do you remenber how long it took for the SD open results? weeks.... i think mark horn does a great job, rehett was on top of things somewhat. Socal web site looks like it was made 10 years ago... good luck.

Ummm......San Diego Open results took forever to post because of the San Diego Open TDs did not submitt results for weeks. It had nothing to do with SoCal.

Cliff Towne just sent out an email today saying that he was getting ready to submit the Ice Bowl results, so again it would be really difficult for the SoCal website to have them, eh?

As for Wintertime pre-regs........you have a good point. :)

Dave,

that's one of things i hated about socal. Do you remenber how long it took for the SD open results? weeks.... i think mark horn does a great job, Socal web site looks like it was made 10 years ago... good luck.



the website looks old 'cause mark horn is OLD...... :D

the website looks old 'cause mark horn is OLD...... :D


When did Mark take over the website?

just joshin' ya :Dtom does a good job and the website is dubelisciously awesome :D

Ummm......San Diego Open results took forever to post because of the San Diego Open TDs did not submitt results for weeks. It had nothing to do with SoCal.



I -hate- those guys.

This one's for Schweb. ;)

This one's for Schweb. ;)

No disrespect, but this one's for Bobby or Steve, 'til proven otherwise! :cool::p ;)

That's cool with me.

It should be great to watch! In 2002, Schweb had rounds of 1030, 1015, and 1054, but was basically in a race for second with Sugar Schack after Steve carded a 1084 for 7 throws on Brian & Al.

Steve's won back-to-back-to-back, but I'd never wager against Bobby, locally: witness GSNT 2004 over Barry + everybody. Is he even entered? I haven't bothered to check, but he has a way of waiting 'til the last minute, 4COL. :confused:

the formating for the Ice bowl results is awsome... dude

the formating for the Ice bowl results is awsome... dude


Agreed.

The great thing about Radl events(www.radl.com) is while your driving home from the tourney, Radl is updating the event on the pdga site. Even after the first day you know your round rating, and your score. Gotta love it

Anyone know how registration is filling up?



Div First Name Last Name

ma1 Jose Alcala
ma1 Larry Christensen
ma1 Steven Civitak
ma1 Gabriel Gonzales
ma1 Ryan Gwillim
ma1 Lawrence Halili
ma1 Steven Hines
ma1 Tom La Torre
ma1 Jason McEwen
ma1 Donnie McDermott
ma1 Trey McKelvey
ma1 Jared Niles
ma1 David Parnell
ma1 Scotch Ralston
ma1 Elton Rodriguez
ma1 Noah Rodriguez
ma1 Mark Rogers
ma1 Deg Rossiter
ma1 Nick Stellern
ma1 Phil Thomas
ma1 Richard Thompson
ma1 Dirty Vincent

mm1 Derrick Anthony
mm1 John Babin
mm1 Mike Blair
mm1 Brian Dowling
mm1 Steve Drugan
mm1 Andrew Ehlers
mm1 Neal Fallon
mm1 David Karney
mm1 Peter Lindgren
mm1 Wayne Morford
mm1 Virgil Phillips
mm1 Chuck Powell
mm1 Dan Shorkey
mm1 Mark Sperling

mg1 David Hadder
mg1 Tony Mason

ma2 Corey Adams
ma2 Mike Anderegg
ma2 Givan Artinian
ma2 Robert Arzate
ma2 David Astengo
ma2 Eric Butler
ma2 Manuel Castio
ma2 David Densen
ma2 Michael Gentilucci
ma2 Chris Givans
ma2 Jonathan Gleicher
ma2 Kevin Gomez
ma2 Ralph Hammond
ma2 Jeremiah Johnson
ma2 Geoff Larson
ma2 Chad Leonard
ma2 Chris Lindgren
ma2 Robert Martin
ma2 Jack McChesney
ma2 Jeff Nessen
ma2 Jerab Pino
ma2 Josh Scheffey
ma2 Steve Thompson
ma2 Mike Ulawski
ma2 Dirty Wallace
ma2 Dori Ward
ma2 David Waud

fw1 Erin White

fw2 Kellee Marshall

fw3 Kayleen Boyle
fw3 Sarra Smith

<19 Nate Ulsh

ma3 Michael Babcock
ma3 Phil Brathewaite
ma3 George Coatman
ma3 Frank Feliz
ma3 Levi Fisher
ma3 Michael Garcia
ma3 Nick Johnson
ma3 C.J. Powell
ma3 Scott Powell
ma3 Howard Tan
ma3 Randy Whittington
ma3 Ramon Trevino

Am weekend is officially sold out as of 2/4/05 ...:cool:

dang.....so much for making a run at the MM1 title this year. I have to miss this one. :(

Where you get that info at?

Just got a note from Mark Horn: Am Weekend is officially sold-out!

I guess SoCal Ams really do like low-entry/low-payout events. :) $25 is a great price for a two-day tourney with player packs, killer trophies, lunch Saturday, and all. Wish I could make it to this one...

dang.....Where you get that info at?



From the SoCal site...Duh. Don't you know that its the most up-to-date, and informative site for disc golf :o

Yeah, okay. Whatever. I don't see that info there, but I guess if you think that answer was funny....

It was :D

Anyone know how registration is filling up?



<font color="blue">Here is the updated list of registered players as of 2/7/05 </font>
Div First Name Last Name

ma1 Jose Alcala
ma1 Justin Allen
ma1 Ron Brawley
ma1 Larry Christensen
ma1 Steven Civitak
ma1 Roddy Flocken
ma1 Gabriel Gonzales
ma1 Ryan Gwillim
ma1 LawrenceHalili
ma1 Steven Hines
ma1 Anton Jackson
ma1 Tom La Torre
ma1 Donnie McDermott
ma1 Jason McEwen
ma1 Trey McKelvey
ma1 Jared Niles
ma1 David Parnell
ma1 Mario Porras
ma1 Ryan Powell
ma1 Scotch Ralston
ma1 Elton Rodriguez
ma1 Noah Rodriguez
ma1 Mark Rogers
ma1 Deg Rossiter
ma1 Nick Stellern
ma1 Phil Thomas
ma1 Richard Thompson
ma1 Steve Thompson
ma1 Dirty Vincent
ma1 Shadd Wade
ma1 Gregory Watts

ma2 Corey Adams
ma2 Mike Anderegg
ma2 Givan Artinian
ma2 Robert Arzate
ma2 David Astengo
ma2 Wayne Brathwaite
ma2 Eric Butler
ma2 Manuel Castio
ma2 David Densen
ma2 Abraham Elmore
ma2 Rick Fleming
ma2 Michael Gentilucci
ma2 Chris Givans
ma2 JonathanGleicher
ma2 Kevin Gomez
ma2 Ralph Hammond
ma2 Ernie Hernandez
ma2 Jeremiah Johnson
ma2 Geoff Larson
ma2 Chad Leonard
ma2 Chris Lindgren
ma2 Robert Martin
ma2 Jack McChesney
ma2 Jeff Nessen
ma2 Jerab Pino
ma2 Dennis Ricketts
ma2 Angel Rosales
ma2 Paul Salvo
ma2 Josh Scheffey
ma2 Brian Story
ma2 Mike Ulawski
ma2 Dirty Wallace
ma2 Dori Ward
ma2 Dustin Warren
ma2 David Waud
ma2 Brian Yamada

ma3 Michael Babcock
ma3 Phil Brathewaite
ma3 George Coatman
ma3 Brian Dowling
ma3 Frank Feliz
ma3 Levi Fisher
ma3 Michael Garcia
ma3 Mike Hall
ma3 Nick Johnson
ma3 C.J. Powell
ma3 Scott Powell
ma3 Howard Tan
ma3 Ramon Trevino
ma3 Randy Whittington
ma3 Robert Zion

mg1 Sam Banks
mg1 David Hadder
mg1 Tony Mason
mg1 Greg Zuehl

mm1 Derrick Anthony
mm1 John Babin
mm1 Mike Blair
mm1 Steve Drugan
mm1 Andrew Ehlers
mm1 Neal Fallon
mm1 David Karney
mm1 Peter Lindgren
mm1 Wayne Morford
mm1 Virgil Phillips
mm1 Chuck Powell
mm1 Dan Shorkey
mm1 Mark Sperling
mm1 Jerry Wilson

<13 Gregory Mak

<19 Nick Slobodian
<19 Daniel Sugar
<19 Alex Tauber
<19 Ben Tauber
<19 Nate Ulsh

fw1 Emily Hardy
fw1 Erin White

fw2 Kellee Marshall

fw3 Kayleen Boyle
fw3 Sarra Smith


Am weekend is officially sold out as of 2/4/05 ...:cool:

I had some scheduling fiasco and I can no longer play the AM weekend. Therefore, I am thinking seriously about playing the PRO weekend.

I need some help with lodging, anyone have a couch available circa Pasadena/Los Angeles? Please? I'll buy a case of your favourite beer and I promise not to make any passes at your girlfriend/wife/daughter ;)!

It's going to be raining Friday afternoon through Saturday...Hell yeah, real weather /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Oh, I forgot to say, San Diego's rollin deep /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Here is the final list of players for the AM weekend...Those are your hole assignments for the first round...Good luck, it's going to raining List of registered PRO's coming soon


Div. Hole FName LName PDGA #

<13 1 Gregory Mak
fw2 1 Kellee Marshall 26153
fw3 1 Kayleen Boyle
fw3 1 Sarra Smith 25848


<19 2 Nate Ulsh
fw1 2 Emily Hardy 26129
fw1 2 Erin White 22056
fw1 2 Tracey Thorpe 25352


<19 3 Nick Slobodian
<19 3 Daniel Sugar
<19 3 Alex Tauber
<19 3 Ben Tauber


ma1 4 Jose Alcala 22263
ma1 4 Lawrence Halili 19261
ma1 4 Jared Niles 22345
ma1 4 Deg Rossiter 24201


ma1 5 Justin Allen
ma1 5 Steven Hines 23876
ma1 5 David Parnell 18272
ma1 5 Nick Stellern 12837


ma1 6 Ron Brawley 15958
ma1 6 Paul Hoyt 21994
ma1 6 Mario Porras
ma1 6 Phil Thomas 19953


ma1 7 Jesse Chambless 21989
ma1 7 Anton Jackson 14794
ma1 7 Ryan Powell 19954
ma1 7 Richard Thompson 23863


ma1 8 Larry Christensen 25905
ma1 8 Tom La Torre 22048
ma1 8 Scotch Ralston 18313
ma1 8 Steve Thompson 23864


ma1 9 Steven Civitak 15556
ma1 9 Josh Magyar
ma1 9 Elton Rodriguez 21995
ma1 9 Dave Vincent 24099


ma1 10 Roddy Flocken 17498
ma1 10 Noah Rodriguez 21215
ma1 10 Shadd Wade 21554
ma2 10 Sean Austin


ma1 11 Gabriel Gonzales
ma1 11 Trey McKelvey
ma1 11 Mark Rogers 19928
ma1 11 Gregory Watts 17466


ma2 12 Mike Anderegg
ma2 12 Michael Gentilucci
ma2 12 Chris Lindgren 19951
ma2 12 Josh Scheffey


ma2 13 Givan Artinian
ma2 13 Chris Givans 25716
ma2 13 Robert Martin 25847
ma2 13 Brian Story


ma2 14 Robert Arzate 24468
ma2 14 Jonathan Gleicher 24392
ma2 14 Jack McChesney
ma2 14 Mike Ulawski


ma2 15 David Astengo
ma2 15 Kevin Gomez 25626
ma2 15 Donnie McDermott 24845
ma2 15 David Wallace 25575


ma2 16 Wayne Brathwaite
ma2 16 Ralph Hammond 19881
ma2 16 Jeff Nessen 21884
ma2 16 Dori Ward


ma2 17 Eric Butler
ma2 17 Ernie Hernandez
ma2 17 Jerab Pino 23434
ma2 17 Dustin Warren 18001


ma2 18 Manuel Castio
ma2 18 Jeremiah Johnson 23940
ma2 18 Dennis Ricketts 21999
ma2 18 David Waud 24107


ma2 19 David Densen 21182
ma2 19 Geoff Larson 25212
ma2 19 Angel Rosales
ma2 19 Brian Yamada 21395


ma3 20 Michael Babcock 21765
ma3 20 Frank Feliz 21984
ma3 20 Nick Johnson 21845
ma3 20 Howard Tan


ma3 21 Phil Brathewaite
ma3 21 Levi Fisher 25800
ma3 21 Michael McNamara
ma3 21 Ramon Trevino


ma3 22 George Coatman 24175
ma3 22 Michael Garcia 24202
ma3 22 C.J. Powell 23592
ma3 22 Randy Whittington 21586


ma3 23 Brian Dowling
ma3 23 Mike Hall 26200
ma3 23 Scott Powell 25781
ma3 23 Robert Zion


mm1 24 Derrick Anthony
mm1 24 Andrew Ehlers 20725
mm1 24 Peter Lindgren 19207
mm1 24 Mark Sperling 22266


ma2 25 Wayne Morford 26060
mm1 25 John Babin
mm1 25 Neal Fallon 26136
mm1 25 Jerry Wilson


ma2 26 Alan Fridge 977
mg1 26 Tony Mason 22833
mm1 26 Steve Drugan 11403
mm1 26 David Karney


mg1 27 Sam Banks 21987
mg1 27 David Hadder 10207
mg1 27 Virgil Phillips 12288
mg1 27 Greg Zuehl 20213


ma2 11a Corey Adams 26110
ma2 11a Abraham Elmore
ma2 11a Chad Leonard 22007
ma2 11a Paul Salvo


mm1 25a Dan Shorkey 14378
mm1 25a Mike Blair 17694
mm1 25a Rick Fleming 19878
mm1 25a Chuck Powell 21235

Raining hard now, not good. Just when the course is looking somewhat dry...................now all the pits of jet fuel will be filled again with water! Gonna be a muddy Wintertime Open. :eek:

OK, SOME SERIOUS RAIN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
If i wake up to rain tomorrow, i might just fall back asleep.
Frisbee golf in the rain is for NorCallers!!!

OK, SOME SERIOUS RAIN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
If i wake up to rain tomorrow, i might just fall back asleep.
Frisbee golf in the rain is for NorCallers!!!



Whats Rain :confused: We have not seen any of that stuff for over a week now :D

As a matter of fact its quite sunny out right now :cool:but 44 degrees..

Id be more worried about being able to play the course AT ALL....I know that "Wash" that they have moved the course into just loves to FLOOD :eek:

Good luck to ALL you SoCal Ams...just think of it as practice for the NorCal events that you want to play this year ;)

Scores? :cool:

Scores? :cool:

Neither Dirty D, nor Blarg, nor ClizardB, nor 100+ other members of OG's club can get to a keyboard?!? :confused:

What do the CFR's look like....it's not that 60's-ish, 'Dragon' composite-effort, is it?

I'm sure Saturday was a lot of fun, if it rained up there the way it did down here.

...that's what it says...with round 3 not yet tabulated Unofficial Results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4881#Advanced).

Dirty D hanging in 3rd in advanced. :)
Eldo's top AA is Shadd Wade, currently 14th out of 32. :cool:

...how did somebody with a 945-rating get in Rec, that's what slo want's to know...& how to stop that!! :mad:

does anyone know what the final results where ?

Full results are now posted on PDGA.

Still unofficial; the "prize" results not 'up' yet, either. Congrats to Chuck Powell! ;)

Dirty D, ya kinda 'dropped-off' Sunday...wha'appen?

THANKS MARK FOR THE INFO. :D

Dirty D, ya kinda 'dropped-off' Sunday...wha'appen?



I was playing well...except for 4 holes (6,6,5,5), oh well. Congrats to Chuck!

Was it raining? How were the extra holes?

Current Pro registrants as of 2/14/05

Div FName LName PDGA #
mpo Steven Bermudez 21819
mpo DagobertoBribiesca 11484
mpm Billy Carnaghe 12115
fpo Kimbra Carnaghe 17937
mpm Marcus Cisneros 2046
mpg Tom Clickner 7086
mpm Mike Cloyes 3306
mpm Kevin Couch 7714
mpo Kyle Crabtree 25596
mpm Bill Davis 5765
mpm David Devine 13828
fpo Kathy Downing 20484
mpm Dave Dunipace 987
mpo Dan Duron 11317
mpm Tom Embree 7689
mpo Sam Ferrans 2872
mpm Rick Fleming 19878
mps Philip Ganshert 777
mpo Ryan Gwillim 24321
mpo Joel Hall 21969
mpo Floyd Henke 24076
fpm Susie Horn 68
mpo Christopher Horn 7685
mpm Jeff Kennedy 1447
mpm Terry Lehrer 17160
mpo Ken McKelvey 21200
mpg Dave Melton 2851
mpo Dan Molloy 11784
mpm Don Olow 2656
mpm Kent Parsons 6550
mpg Snapper Pierson 691
mpo Mike Raley 7846
mpo Andrew Rich 14349
mps Bill Richards 11016
mpg Dan Roddick 3
mpo Matt Roulette 14855
mpo Ryan Severns 12289
mpl Pat Shea 15324
mpm Russel Shelton 12847
fpo Suzette Simons 11957
mpg Derrick Stockhausen 4646
fpo Megan Stroh 15918
mpm Rhett Stroh 14540
mpo Patrick Sweeney 16446
mpm Phil Thomas 19953
mpg Glenn Triemstra 993
fpo Tita Ugalde 83
mpo Gabriel Valera 16227
mpm Craig Walters 19936
fpo Erin White 22056
fpm Joy Williams 17318
mpm Steve Wisecup 1467
fpo Vicky Wisecup 3333

No rain, but VERY wet...A couple of new holes were added, but mostly the same.

Was it raining? How were the extra holes?



local forcast from tuesday on doesn't look good rhett :(
better dress for wet weather and i'll be standing by down stream just incase any of you guys need to be fish out of the wash if you make it as far as long beach :D

Anyone going to El Do this weekend????
If it is not raining of course. :)

I'll be at Oak Grove. :)

I might NOT be there, if I go to Riverside Th through Sat, but give me a PM Friday, who knows? It appears you like to get in pics with local celebrities; don't jeopordize your chance! :cool:

Thanks again to whomever is in charge of getting results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4881#Advanced) up! :) Maybe you can't address this, not being a part of DISCussion, but I'd like to know...what happened to the ratings from the first two rounds, I don't see those anymore. :confused: I imagine the "75 under" part will also get revised? Or is that as an incentive to Mr. Rico? :D

I don't think Mark does DISCussion.

Anyone going to El Do this weekend????
If it is not raining of course. :)



mark
i was there last weekend and the area around tee 2 and hole 9 had a lot of water but the rest of the course was ok,the grass needs to be cut thou.if it's going to rain most of the week it might not look pretty as eldo doesn't drain that well and it takes the water time to soak in

Yea, i remember it staying wet there for awhile.
I need to get my arm back in shape, my chest and shoulder were hurting so bad on Saturday, i did not even make it on Sunday. And talk about losing distance!!! It is like i am being punished for not picking up a disc for 8 months!!!
:)

Thanks Mark, maybe you DON'T see this, but you ROCK! :cool:


Anyone going to El Do this weekend????
If it is not raining of course. :)



mark
I was there last weekend and the area around tee 2 and hole 9 had a lot of water but the rest of the course was ok,the grass needs to be cut thou.if it's going to rain most of the week it might not look pretty as eldo doesn't drain that well and it takes the water time to soak in

Bingo! As of yesterday, the grass was mown quite nicely, and #2 teepad is now dry. However, #9 is still a bit of an 'island'. I feel most of the water 'leaves' by evaporation, not absorbtion. We've been playing #9 to the practice basket, with good results. Another option is to play #1 basket, from the main road, as a #9.

OK, enough of that; back to Wintertalk: :p

What do the CFR's look like....it's not that 60's-ish, 'Dragon' composite-effort, is it?

:confused: :p :confused:

I never felt better about not being a PRO than this weekend. Nasty rain out here, Wintertime is going to be a soggy affair.
:)

yep!

was there all afternoon and well into the night(8pm). some water on the course, but overall ok.still somewhat muddy though, so be prepared footware wise. (and don't forget your umbrella) good luck all....O.G.D.G.C. :cool:

Mighnight:37 now, rain pounding on the roof here near the beach , I can only wonder what it's like in the foothills...my best wishes everyone!

...I slept outdoors under a table prior WTs, lol, glad it wasn't tonight. ;)

Its been raining hard 2 days in a row.

CANT WAIT TO PLAY IN THE MUD!

yikes :cool:

Dan Duron was leading Open after 27, -14 to -13. Then it was -a couple vs. -16 [!], and Dan thinks that's still good for second...he's planning on playing in a Final, anyways! :D

What do the CFR's look like....it's not that 60's-ish, 'Dragon' composite-effort, is it?

:confused: :p :confused:

The 'Dragon' was something else entirely.

The Wintertime INNcolor discs have "Where It All Began" in curvilinear text, over a photo reproduction of one of the OG targets...very nice range of colours...a gorgeous disc. :p

My ride* had to leave before the Final, but after 9 holes [63/81] Steve held a double-digit lead, having shot par, and losing but one throw to his card.

The water was up...what, twenty feet? The maximum the dam could back-up, at least. Know the 'Canyon' shot? All submerged, save a bit of 'beachfront' and the basket, practically. Spotted there, watched helplessly at least 10 thrown/lost from #19 tee, another from #13 on a drive, and one-several across the way on #20 [couldn't watch that one as well, might have been scads...there was an actual lake there for actual OB]. I did manage to snab 3 before their doom, and only because they were of the 'dribble-in' variety, and stayed within a foot-or-so from the 'shore'. I was also able to rake out a couple after losing visual contact, but just through guesstimation/blind luck...the discs were invisible only inches down. Hopefully I'll have some pics up later.
*<font size = -3>The 'advert' worked.</font>

I used to think the only reason to ever DNF was injury.

Yesterday changed my mind. :)

Disc golf is supposed to be fun. Playing in the rain or even in a deluge is fun, but multiple muddy river crossings and higher-than-boot-top lakes around the baskets weren't fun for me. Oh well. They were only useless pro points. :D I hope the winners enjoyed my donation. ;)

But like I said, flooding your waterproof boots to retrieve a made putt just wasn't that fun for me...

Yikes! Sounds like Texas States! :)

Sorry to hear that...I saw Ryan Gwillim Sunday and he had some mid-calf-type waders.
But even they wouldn't have helped everywhere:
http://www.centxdglove.com/uploads/Wintertime_2K5_Pros_Canyon_.jpg (http://www.centxdglove.com/uploads/Wintertime_2K5_Sweeney_Cany.jpg)Click for larger-sized.

#19 Wintertime Open 2k5 Pro weekend, Sunday. The next foursome for this hole can be seen to the left of the white object. Pat Sweeney [aka TEAMELDO_16446, on this board], putts for a bird.
Wintertime TD and Disc Golf Hall-of Famer Mark Horn observes [back to camera].

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Yowza! I heard it raining hard all night (again) Saturday night, but that is crazy!

For those of you reading from afar....the hole in that picture has a lake that looks like it is comes up to the edge of the dirt behind the basket. On Saturday you could land 12-15 feet down the escarpment and there was yellow tape marking the OB line. The water only came up to the right of the basket and way WAY lower than that.

What the heck did the elevated tee-pad hole look like? (6?) I'm figuring that basket must've been under water.

I saw hardly any of the course, going right out, staying put, then leaving promptly, but there were last-minute changes, and I believe complete new holes. After the short hole which is #12 in the 18-layout, there were 3 holes before the 'Canyon' hole, and I'd only seen one of those. But I've missed a few Wintertimes, too.

I CAN say some tees were changed; I did catch that part. And I learned later the 5-Spider hole was used.

The Lake=OB I found interesting, because the edge of the water was used as the OB line, and the boundry was indefinite on the end most likely to be entered.

Also interesting: On the hole I watched, passing over the 'fairway' was not good enough, the disc had to make contact.

...there was a two-shot maximum before a DZ was used.

...there were twosomes.

This is is looking back towards Devil's Gate, view just-East of due south [above pic roughly ESE]. Those are trees out there!
http://www.centxdglove.com/uploads/Wintertime_2K5_DevilsGate_t.jpg (http://www.centxdglove.com/uploads/Wintertime_2K5_DevilsGate.jpg)Click for larger-sized.




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I have some amazing pictures!! I just need to find out where to host them, I am not at work so I don't have all my ftp information for my sites etc. Hopefully tomorrow, if not, definitely by tuesday.

The waders were awesome, I was probably about the only person with dry feet, and I was also able to putt from casual water, I can think of at least two birdies that I got while standing in calf-deep water where my relief lie would have been at least another 50 feet back!.

http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime01.JPG
http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime02.JPG
http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime03.JPG
http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime04.JPG
http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime05.JPG
http://www.roadtosanity.net/dgpics/wintertime06.JPG

HAPPY BIRTHDAY RHETT!!


What the heck did the elevated tee-pad hole look like? (6?) I'm figuring that basket must've been under water

I think that's the second-from-top in Ryan's set, eh?

Already! (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4882) :D

I must say, I have played many times in the rain over the years, but Saturday's round at Oak Grove was the wettest ever. There were rivers running through the course and lakes around the baskets. People were actually losing discs right under the baskets! On Sunday, two holes and the tee for a third were consumed by the lake.

I am thankful for my Gortex socks from Rocky. My feet were the only thing dry by the end of that rain soaked round on Saturday. Yes, they are pricey socks, but dry feet are worth it! You can find them online from retailers like REI and Cabellas. They cost more than my shoes, but they last for years and are far superior to Seal Skins or Gortex shoes.

I used to think the only reason to ever DNF was injury.

Yesterday changed my mind. :)

Disc golf is supposed to be fun. Playing in the rain or even in a deluge is fun, but multiple muddy river crossings and higher-than-boot-top lakes around the baskets weren't fun for me. Oh well. They were only useless pro points. :D I hope the winners enjoyed my donation. ;)

But like I said, flooding your waterproof boots to retrieve a made putt just wasn't that fun for me...




happy birthday and sorry you had an event like that for your pro debut!
played once in florida where the ENTIRE course was casual water(and under water)in rockledge but,at least there the water was only 4-8 inches deep and clear so you could always dee and walk to your discs....can't imagine by looking at those pictures how it was....but some of them reminded me of national doubles in 97/98 when the baskets were under water/at the edge of the water and portables were set up....hope vegas and the memorial have better weather!

keith

I had an awesome time this weekend at Oak Grove. Yes, the rains were epic; it was by far the most rain I have played in since moving to California from the East Coast four years ago. It was absurd to the point of being comical, and the only thing you could do was laugh and go like hell whenever a shot landed in running water and be prepared to dredge if you want to get your prized disc back.

Our threesome lost four discs on one hole, but at least we got three of them back (I found mine and putted from the middle of the stream...once you are soaked a few additional gallons of dirty, muddy runoff is pretty minor).

Mucho thanks to the Horns and the rest of the folks who helped make this a memorable tournament. I won't forget that first round for many, many years.

PS. A sad farewell to Dr. Gonzo. Feel free to join me for a moment of silence at 4:20 local time. DD

Hey, Thanks for the photos Ryan. Just when i was getting the nightmares out my head you post them right back!
And yes, Ryan wading over to his lie a few times will not be forgotten. I waded over to a lie that was 12" deep and my boots are only 9" high, so squishy feet and all i let em fly.
I owe my caddy bigtime, thanks JonJon.
Wintertime Open was nuts, but i had good time.
Still dont know how i got 3 strokes added to my card last round. Maybe cuz everyone didnt sign it, i dont know.
Is there a penalty i am not aware of? for 3 strokes.
Could have been an error on transfer. Nevertheless, the fun i had there and meeting cool folks was worth it.
Thanks Horn family and others for a wicked tourney.

Floyd

Hey, Thanks for the photos Ryan. Just when i was getting the nightmares out my head you post them right back!


MUHAHA


Still dont know how i got 3 strokes added to my card last round. Maybe cuz everyone didnt sign it, i dont know.
Is there a penalty i am not aware of? for 3 strokes.


What? I didn't get any strokes so it couldn't have been an "all card" error. And turning in a scorecard with the wrong total is a two stroke penalty, not three. Last year the rule was revised so that players are not required to sign their card, so that couldn't have been it. I would contact Mark in a couple days after he has relaxed a bit and work this out! Or at least figure out what went wrong. Good playing with you Floyd!

What? I didn't get any strokes so it couldn't have been an "all card" error. And turning in a scorecard with the wrong total is a two stroke penalty, not three. Last year the rule was revised so that players are not required to sign their card, so that couldn't have been it. I would contact Mark in a couple days after he has relaxed a bit and work this out! Or at least figure out what went wrong. Good playing with you Floyd!



not 2 stroke penalty....CORRECT SCORE plus 2 stroke penalty...rule was revised in 2002 rules change(not last year)
also it states that even though you don't NEED to sign it, that you accept the score recorded on the card...

that's why it is good practice to check you OWN card and also check other's cards so if there are questions or errors that they get fixed BEFORE turning the cards in at tourney central....

just my 2 cents worth as a td who dislikes having to give people strokes or settle arguments about scores that are turned in..
keith

I had an awesome time this weekend at Oak Grove. Yes, the rains were epic; it was by far the most rain I have played in since moving to California from the East Coast four years ago. It was absurd to the point of being comical, and the only thing you could do was laugh and go like hell whenever a shot landed in running water and be prepared to dredge if you want to get your prized disc back.


"The Legend" Scot Moore likes to tell the tale of the second Wintertime's rain...something along Biblical proportions...I don't suppose anyone played both? Regardless, it's gear to hear people 'went with the flow', so to speak! ;)

...that being said, how about clear and sunny skys for the rest of the series?!? :o:p ;)

I talked to Mark Horn after the first round and he remembered the 1978 tournament as being a similar deluge, with something like 50 discs being lost on one part of the course. The Lissaman's both remembered finding tons of plastic after one of the early tournaments, which is probably the one Mark spoke of.

I heard someone say that the upper add on holes had not been played in 15 years. It was a memorable weekend!!

I loved the "spider tree" basket which was in the middle of a cluster of trees that blocked most of the angles towards the basket. It reminded me Calvert, my old course back in Maryland, which had similar holes back in the 80s before the trees started to come down. Classic Steady Ed design!!

We've played the upper holes with the spider tree hole more recently than that. :)

We played them in 2000 or 2001 for the ams

We just go to the rock now for fun :cool:

Off topic you playing paw paw dd I have your 2004 Md Tag (didn't quite get to 100 last year, you get 90ish) :cool:

Howdy Shark

Wap Wap is almost certainly a go, however might have to beg for ride again. Long story that I hoped would be over by now (and most certainly by then!).

Hope to make it out East this summer to prep for the Worlds. DD

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I owe my caddy bigtime, thanks JonJon.



No Prob Homie I had a blast walkin the course in those crazy conditions. It was worth it watchin you make sick shots like that putt on hole #24 :DCongrats on a more than solid performance in yo 1st pro event. I woulda liked to see your Sun round but I partied a lil too hard :p L8erz

happy birthday and sorry you had an event like that for your pro debut!



Thanks for the wishes, but for the record my pro debut was U.S. Masters 2002. :D

I just noticed Steve 'Cup' Wisecup had a 1020-rated round [70/-11], then DQ'ed...that was good for a 3-throw cushion after round #1...the payout ended up being $500+ in that division...not an injury, I trust? :confused:

His wife was "rained out". (She was playing too.)

Thanks, I guess everybody has their personal comfort level. Good year for the 'Ducks' out there!

Yeah JonJon, you didnt miss much in the sun round, i think i play better in the rain now :DI am still laughing bout that
"sick shot" you mentioned. Why Not? Yuno. Boo-Yah!


******I made a scoring error on my own score. Turned it in wrong. Missed a stroke on adding then got 2 strokes for the mistake. Disc Golf=Fun No Worry, going back to Math school i guess. *********** :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

******I made a scoring error on my own score. Turned it in wrong. Missed a stroke on adding then got 2 strokes for the mistake. Disc Golf=Fun No Worry, going back to Math school i guess. *********** :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D


Lo siento, amigo, necessito confirmar tu cuenta tambien. �La vez pr�xima!

Felix Cumplea�os, Ryan!!

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His wife was "rained out". (She was playing too.)



It wasn't just Vicky. I finished my round at around noon. When I got to the truck, Steve pretty much had already decicded that he wasn't having any fun, and wanted to go home. I told him I had no problem with either staying or leaving. Then we waited an hour for Vicky to see what she wanted to do. When she came off the course at 1:00, she looked like a drowned rat. 5 hours to finish 27 holes, then she's told that she will only get 1/2 hour to eat and dry off, and that was pretty much it for them. As we were leaving Beth told her that the masters women decided(without her) that they were not playing the 2nd rd. but would play the 3rd. Vicky was still not interested.

-11 and no fun? :)

I felt the same way shooting 16 strokes worse!

Whoa!
Guess i need to take Math and Spanish now!

You funnny guy............Just bring them knee high putting boots to Az. They wont know what hit them...........

p.s. Amigo=Friend ;)

�Ellos estan en m� equipaje! /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Felix Cumplea�os



"Feliz" no "Felix".

I never could mind my Z's, and cues. :o

-11 and no fun? :)

I felt the same way shooting 16 strokes worse!




Yea I walked up and the 1st thing he says is "wanna go?". I'm thinking he shot bad so I ask "pretty bad huh?" He says "Yea I only shot an 11".

When y'all split I figured he was just being a good husband. :)

The "spirit breaker" for my card when was the sun came out for about half a hole and then it went back to pouring. Ugh. Talk about false hope.

Plus we had already lost one player from our card after 1 hole and 1 drive.