I was reading this article about grip which is really informative
http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/gripittoripit.shtml

I did have a few question. I'm RHB been playing for almost a year.

Questions: How do keep your wrist down and keep your forearm and hand on a parrelel planw when throwing hyzer/anhyzer. I guess my real question is where do you adjust the disc for these angles? (elbow, arm, wrist, etc?)

Another question: The article suggest keeping the disc at the seem of your hand (which basically runs from the middle of your wrist (palm up) to between your index and middle fingers) This kind of puts my index finger in a awkward positition. Most articles seem to say that when using the power grip you disk should "rip" off the index finger. I don't think I'm doing this because my index can't really get into a good position with most disc's if I keep the disk in that seem position.

To throw hyzers try bending at the waist towards the ground, you can keep your same pull line but you now have a hyzer angle on the disc, for anhyzers bend backwards a bit and lift your elbow a bit higher than usual.

When using the power grip the disc should rip out at the 3rd knuckle of your index finger. Which is the very start of the seam of the hand.

I'll have to try the bending of the waist.

About the index finger. When your using the power grip, where should the index finder be exerting pressure.For example: the middle, ring, and pinkie, are putting pressure on the inside of the rim (into the mid-palm/thumb pad).

I'm thinking maybe the bet way to get the index to rip out at the 3'rd knuckle is to put the bottum edge of the rim in the 3'rd knuckle crease.

Does this make sense?

Hahaha, I'm new too, and have been working on my grip alot for some time. It's still not how I'd like it, but I'm pretty sure the best way to make the index finger wrap around the rim of the disc easier, while its still in the crease of your hand, is to focus on gripping it so that the disc will come off the index finger last when throwing it, and make sure you have a very relaxed but of course firm, i know tricky, grip until the snap. I think a good way to learn a good grip might be just to try throwing shorter distances with a good grip first until you think the rip is feeling how it is supposed to and then slowly add on more power. This is just an idea, I do not know that it will work. Also I'd say for pressure, I'm pretty sure the most important thing to keep in mind is that your index finger be pressing on the inside of the rim towards the seem in your hand and the outside of the rim should be pressing against that seem. Practice while focusing on your grip alot and hopefully you'll find something that feels comfortable, repeatable, and clean. I hope I can do that soon too. I'd really suggest trying to make sure you're not too tense when throwing and that you focus on the disc coming off your index finger more than anything else.

The thing to do when concentrating on your release point is to find your "snap point". Find where that is and concentrate on releasing your disc at that point each time you throw a shot.
If you are a right handed backhand thrower:
to throw a Anhyzer: start at the back right corner of the tee and angle your run-up towards the front left corner.
Hyzer: start at the back left corner of the teepad and angle your run-up to the front right corner.
For a Straight shot: angle your run-up right at the line you want to throw.
These angles help you set your body up for the shot.

Grip: I use a Power Grip. All 4 fingers gripping the rim. I've found it's best to have the pressure of your grip on the rim of the disc, no pressure on the fight plate excluding your thumb. Pull the disc into your palm. (you don't have to grip hard, just firmly. You will naturally grip harder while you throw) This helps you keep the nose of your disc flat.

I just wanted to re-visit this thread.

Just want to make sure I have this right. Regarless if your throwing hyzer, flat, or anhyzer you keep your wrist "down" so that the dsic is in line with the forearm...Right?

So the adjustment for hyzer and anhyzer is all in the waist..Right?

Thats pretty much right.

Although i like to **** my wrist UP when i am throwing anhyzer shots. There really is no right or wrong way to do it as long as you get the disc to do what you want it to do :D

Agreed that there is no right or wrong as long as it works.

But I have found a few little things that I have been doing "wrong" as far as technique that once adjusted made a huge differerence. Like the placement of my Thumb when I put. I think I was leaving it too far out on the disc because I kept on putting short (with a very nose down angle). When I put my thumb closer to the edge (without changing anything else) things worked a whole lot better

the idea is to generate as much power/velocity onto the disc no matter what type of shot it is (assuming you want a max D drive).

maximum velocity/power is transferred to the disc when the pull line, extension of the elbow, and wrist snap happens on the same line/angle as the desired line. if you think of the elbow extension happening ON the same plane as the disc orientation (hyzer/anhyzer/etc.), everything else should fall into place as you go through that motion slowly.

hyzers generally require slight weight back and a slight bend at the waist. i prefer to think of the bend at the waist as dipping your front shoulder at the reach (the act of which results in a bend at the waist). similarly, an anhzyer will generally require the weight to be more forward and your leading shoulder will stay level or higher during the backswing.

if you "lock in" the angle before the start of the throw, the varied motion will be more apparent. for an extreme hyzer, you will have the inside of your forearm facing somewhat upwards and the hotstamp of the disc will be facing away from you. for an extreme anhyzer, the inside of your forearm will be facing somewhat down and the hotstamp of the disc will be facing towards you.

hope this could help.

I am not disagreeing about the bending at the waist argument, but when I first started the easiest way I found to change the flight was the plane I through on. That is, if I wanted to throw hyzer, I concentrated on finshing slightly higher and starting lower during the pull back and if I want to throw annie I finish lower and start slightly higher. Finish the same height for straight.

ah yes, this too will cause the desired mechanics changes. e.g. reaching lower = bend at the waist = dropping front shoulder during reach.

Exactly my point, Blake, I just find that this is an easier thing to concentrate on and it lets the body fall into place naturally rather than trying to get it there consciously.

"hyzers generally require slight weight back and a slight bend at the waist. i prefer to think of the bend at the waist as dipping your front shoulder at the reach (the act of which results in a bend at the waist). similarly, an anhzyer will generally require the weight to be more forward and your leading shoulder will stay level or higher during the backswing. "

When you talk about weight back for hyzer and forward for anhyzer what do you mean? Do you mean on your front or back foot?

This might seem like a silly question, but I'm not sure what he means

Yes, I think it means weight back toward the back foot on a hyzer shot and forward on the front foot during an anhyzer shot.

--Josh

Hey Josh

Are you the same Josh from the Maine Board?

Yes I am.

Sent you a couple private messages over the past couple weeks, but I guess you didn't get them.

If you haven't already, check out the schedule. There's a new addition to the schedule for March that you might want to give a try. As long as the snow isn't still a foot and a half deep, I'll be there.

--Josh

Yeah...I've about had it with loosing disc's in the snow.

I lost a disc on #14 at your place last Sunday (in the wooded area before/left of the basket...

Great day out there besides that. Warm sunny winter day, two rounds of disc golf and Patriots in the Super Bowl. Can't beat that.

When you talk about weight back for hyzer and forward for anhyzer what do you mean? Do you mean on your front or back foot?




it is in terms of your center of gravity in relation to the plant/pivot foot (right foot for rhbh throwers).

for most straight throws it is recommended to have your weight over the pivot foot. for hyzers, the weight slightly behind it. for anhyzers/rollers, over it to slightly ahead of it.

this is genrealized, and will vary a bit based upon the type of shot. weight back will generally lead to a higher trajectory throw, etc.