my wife got me a few discs for christmas to get me back into disc golf (it has been a few years since i seriously played). they are innova discs and in the pamphlet accompanying them it describes discs that are good for "hyzer shots". what is a hyzer shot and when would i use it? some of the descriptions even deal with "gentle hyzers", what is the difference? i am assuming that a "turnover throw" is a roller. is that accurate?

A hyzer shot is where a right handed player throws a back hand shot to the right of the basket and the disc cuts back left. A turn over shot just means that when you throw that same shot, instead of the disc cutting back to the left it simply flips over and turns to the right, if you turn it over too much it might turn into a roller . . .

thanks

Where did the term Hyzer actually come from anyway? If Anhyzer had come first, I guess it could have been a Bud reference.

After reading your post, I really strted to wonder whee in hell the word hyzer HAD come from. :confused: I searched the internet and online dictionaries for an hour or two and came up pretty much empty handed on the origin of the word Hyzer and how it become common use in disc golf. What I found was that it originally came from the last name Hyzer, which is a very old surname, and actually the 46,955th most occurring surname in the world, which makes it quite rare. Beyond that all I found were disc golf sites and disc golf dictionaries. What I did find was an online dictionary that had odd words like hyzer in it and it tried to trace them back to specific references in printed documents and gives their definitions. For hyzer, I found:

hyzer n. in disc golf or other disc-related sports, a backhanded throw which curves in a direction opposite of the arm used to throw.

Here are places where it was referenced:

1991 Stephen Vinoski (vinoski@apollo.hp.com) Usenet: rec.sport.disc (June 7) �Re: hyzer (was: Re: Forehand throw technique)�: The �angle of hyzer� refers to the angle the �side� of the disc (9 o�clock for throwing from the left side of the body, or 3 o�clock for throwing from the right side) makes with the ground. A disc which is held flat has no hyzer. 1993 David Oberhelman Chicago Tribune (Aug. 20) �Disc Golf Tries To Put A Spin On Leisure Time� p. 4: As precision and confidence increase, expand your arsenal to discs that angle right (in the lingo, a �hyzer� for a right-handed thrower) and left, and a putter. 2004 News-Herald (Southgate, Mich.) (Aug. 4) �Spin: Learn the lingo�: Hyzer: When using a backhand throw, the disc�s flight arc, which causes it to fall in the direction opposite of the throwing arm. For a right-handed player a backhand hyzer shot fades to the left, a sidearm shot fades right.

Thats all i could find for now... :p

Is it Victor's book that defined hyzer & mung (nose up/down angle).

Ideally, to get the maximum distance out of your drive, you want your disc to almost turn over all the way, then fade back. this is called an S-curve. If it doesn't turn over at all, you either A) didn't put enough hyzer on it, or B) are throwing an under-stable disc. If it turns over too quickly, you either A) didn't put enough ani (anhyzer) on it, or B) are throwing a disc thats really overstable. It's all a matter of personal preference on how you want your shots to fly on certain holes. Develop a style and stick with it. Improve on it. And your score will slowly diminsh. :cool:

well put , however just getting your disc flat with substantial glide will generate much distance!!

Chris - you have way too much time on your hands. Im assuming there is still 2 feet of snow on your local disc golf course?

way too much time... i just sit here and look at all my discs and dream of throwing them, seriously...

thats a bummer.I actually had to wear a long sleeve shirt today.Well i guess i did'nt have too!!

its [*****]in -25 out here, you guys are a bunch of wusses... common... lets play the game the way it was intended to be played, hardcore! :D did i mention i have a disc golf tattoo??

a disc golf tattoo??? hell yeah!! thats hardcore :D

hope this works: http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/1e44194_L40a929e5/bc/Texas+Trip/Nic%27s+Finished+Tat.jpg?bfL_X6BBuGUbm4Kx
got it while i was stranded in TX...

I like it! :)

The book that defined hyzer and mung and stuff was by Stancil Johnson around 1975

Tell me about it. I feel for you guys in the Dakotas, Winter is no joke around there. Here in VA it had been un-seasonalby warm for about 2 weeks (55-65 degrees) since right before the first of the year, and then yesterday at the course it was a good weather day by winter standards, 37-39 degrees with NO WIND, and dudes were complaining about the cold. :confused:

It's warm here in NC, warm enough that is!

Ideally, to get the maximum distance out of your drive, you want your disc to almost turn over all the way, then fade back. this is called an S-curve. If it doesn't turn over at all, you either A) didn't put enough hyzer on it, or B) are throwing an under-stable disc. If it turns over too quickly, you either A) didn't put enough ani (anhyzer) on it, or B) are throwing a disc thats really overstable. It's all a matter of personal preference on how you want your shots to fly on certain holes. Develop a style and stick with it. Improve on it. And your score will slowly diminsh. :cool:




Did anybody really read what this posts says????

"If it doesn't turn over at all, you either A) didn't put enough hyzer on it,"
No if you put too much hyzer on it, it will not turn over. <font color="red"> </font>

" B) are throwing an under-stable disc. If it turns over too quickly, you either A) didn't put enough ani (anhyzer) on it"
If you are throwing an understable disc, it would flip too quick if you put too much anhyzer on it. Release understable discs with hyzer to achieve the S-curve. <font color="red"> </font>

This would really confuse any beginner who did not know what they were reading... I hope this post was a joke.

Honestly, the best discs I have personally seen for achieving the S-curve

Orc for big arms.

Flash for noodle arms.

Release both of these discs flat and they make nice tight "S's" An Orc in the hands of a noodle arm is overstable, and a Flash in the hands of a big arm is understable.

There is my PSA for the day.

Go CANADA Go


try playin in our weather, you folks in the northern states know exactly what its like, i pitty the fool who doesnt get to play in snow

I pity the fool who has to live in Canada where the truck drivers don't even slow down when it snows. I drive on the northway in upstate NY where 75% of the trucks are headed for Montreal. If I see a trucker going 70 MPH in deep snow, it always has Canada plates.

This is my chance to vent my anger at the canook drivers

I was complaining about the weather in the dakotas bein -25 what... last week? it was over 60 degrees out here today! talk about messed up weather...

Here in MI its been moderate yet wacky. Was up to 50 a week or so ago in 24 hours it was like 10. Anything above 30 is A ok with me, just put on some layers and your good to go. Below 20, I look for the thinnest glove to go on my throwing hand and the warmest glove to go on my left hand. What I dislike the most is sticky snow (when its like above 20 out and there is snow on the ground, above freezing makes it really bad) and then once the snow melts the mud that you have to wipe off after every throw. Messes with my rythm.