Perhaps the most difficult course I've played. I've only played about 20 different courses.
If so, how did you do and what did you think?
Also, in my opinion, if there some money was put into the course to upgrade the tee pads and baskets this course would dominate. I'm not sure if the owner is open to such things, but it's just a thought.
tafe
Jan 03 2005, 01:29 PM
I don't think the owner is open to any real improvements, but you are correct, a club could do some amazing things up there.
I think this is one of the best courses in the world. The layout and land are both just amazing. I look forward to coming down and playing again this year.
However, there is one major drawback to the design of this course in that it is VERY right-handed. There is no tee where I need to throw a sidearm, or wish I was lefty. There are many tees where a lefty would wish they were righty, though.
But that aside, it is fabulous! :D
jefferson
Jan 04 2005, 12:28 PM
correct for the most part, but either hole #10 or #19 (can't remember) would be best driven with a left-handed backhand or right-handed sidearm. (quick right-turn hole under branches, pin at edge of cliff)
ck34
Jan 04 2005, 12:44 PM
I think that hole is #19 and it was just a little too tight for either hand to get a fair tee shot. My suggestions for improving the course was to get a few true Par 5s in there. First, turn 17 into a Par 5 dogleg down 18 fairway along with shifting and shortening 18 to a par 3. Also, move back the #25 tee by 70-80 feet to make it a tougher par 4 or possibly par 5. The other improvement in general was to change one or two of the straight downhill drop shots like 2 or 12 into more of a hyzer or anhyzer. All of the drop shots are essentially straight throws off the tee right now. Bend 12 to the right by moving the 13 tee pad far right with a new fairway to change it to a dogleg. That makes room for 12 and allows extending the 25 tee.
jefferson
Jan 04 2005, 12:51 PM
those are great ideas, although i think new baskets on some holes (i.e. #19) is a more pressing issue.
bschweberger
Jan 04 2005, 12:53 PM
That basket catches great, and there are no nubs.
jefferson
Jan 04 2005, 12:55 PM
yeah, the plastic chains really grab your jump putt
davidsauls
Jan 04 2005, 02:39 PM
For myself, the most fun course I've ever played (of about 70 in 15 states), with impressive altitude changes and a dramatic setting. Not to mention the most exhausting.
Some improvements to tee pads, baskets, and steps would be nice, but the attributes of this course outweigh any deficiencies.
tafe
Jan 05 2005, 12:38 PM
It is #19. I think the best shot is a turned putter, landing before the mound, so you have decent (if blind) run-up.
I think impressions also depend on when you've played it. After research online, I've found 36-hole layouts! And I know holes were changed for the Am and Pro legs last year. Like I'm thinking to myself, #25 longer?!?! Maybe a flatter tee-pad.
I did almost have my head taken off while standing on #13's teepad! An Orc from #12 would've caught me in the back of the neck if I hadn't jumped on to my stomach at the last second.
At least I parked 13 right after it.