Has any tried or even heard of Discwing. Their first disc out is called the Quarter K. There is 1 post on discgolfreview.com that said it was a great disc with a new design unlike any other disc. Sounds pretty sweet to me. By the way this is my first post.

Other thread for Discwing (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=280513&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1)

The Quarter K is OUT now??? When did this happen? :confused:

Save for a few hand poured prototpyes, it's NOT out. After years of message board postings, full page ads in Disc Golf World News, there are still no discs. There should be no more Quarter K talk until the first run of 1000 or 2000 are made and are in people's hands.

Yeah, I just got an e-mail from them telling me that it is scheduled for release sometime in January. We hope...

Yeah, I just got an e-mail from them telling me that it is scheduled for release sometime in January. We hope...


January of which year? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Didn't they say august or September 04' a while ago?... :o

despite my apprehensions regarding the quarterK, i think at this point i may have to get one just to see what all the hubub has been about. here's hoping they live up to the hype :p

Hopefully i'll be able to kill the weekly postings on the "where is the qk" train of thought. I'll have the review online tonight, i already went out and DP'd with it

Who cares about this disc anyways? As far as I am concerned Discraft, Gateway, and Innova make all the great discs you could ever need. I'd be shocked if the Quarter K actually went further than todays furthest flyers (Crush, Flash, Orc)

does anyone know if the qk will be available in the U.S or atleast available like innova and discraft plastic? it seems like it will be more of a specialty type of disc anyway. like a pure distance driver. i dont know, it probably wont find its way into my bag if its ever released

Who cares about this disc anyways? As far as I am concerned Discraft, Gateway, and Innova make all the great discs you could ever need. I'd be shocked if the Quarter K actually went further than todays furthest flyers (Crush, Flash, Orc)



Thats like saying in 1970... 'zenith makes the best tv's and they always will'

I will easily throw a 170 gm qk further than any of those if the mass produced ones are the same. 420 ft with a 188 gm on my 5th throw.

Please, don't put it in your bag... yeah, i don't think any of you should... i'll take em ;)

and just a follow up "gateway"? why even include them if we're gonna weed out? Even discraft for that matter...

i for one can't wait to try this thing out, if they are ever available.

But come on...188g? Thats definatly not within PDGA guidlines for weight/diameter ratio. I've heard David say before that he ran a 190g Spirit just for the hell of it and it was one of the longest he had ever thrown....but its all for not b/c you can't have them that heavy.

just don't tell anyone. that simple :D

does the QK Disc come in white ?

Any news? Anyone?

I don't know, but it better come in premium plastic. The last thing we need is a speed sensitive max D driver that will only get flippier...So I make a plea to Discwing...since you guys are already taking friggin forever to put this thing out, do the testing and mold it with some decent plastic.

A few of the pre production samples that discwing had a few weeks ago, there was red and white

Any news? Anyone?



Save for a few hand poured prototpyes, it's NOT out. After years of message board postings, full page ads in Disc Golf World News, there are still no discs. There should be no more Quarter K talk until the first run of 1000 or 2000 are made and are in people's hands.

No white have ever been made in proto.Ken Jarvis will be throwing the Quarter K at the distance comp this year the record will be beat.White will be avb in production and no cheap DX plastic..I have thrown this disc 603 ft with Ken he threw it 660 ft when it hit the driving range net 40 ft in the air.This disc will give you more distance that any other pdga approved disc fact....Jonny knows flight..... ;)

and what would you say is your max D with any other disc Reese?

602.?! :D:D

What where the white ones I saw the other week that johnny had?

You cant dis Discraft just because all of there pros are better than you dont hate on them

My longest was 510 with a tl ....Jonny may now have some in england but I have never seen any white.Proto..

availability???????????

Not available yet, got an e-mail telling me that they're pushed back until the official March release and possibly some distributors might get some in the end of February

Read...
"Chris

We have been working extremely hard to get the mould up and running, things are finally coming together. The polymer sampling process is completed and we are now gearing up to release the Quarter K. Discs are with the PDGA Technical Standards Commitee as I write and we are not expecting there to be a problem with the Approval of the QK.

The official release date will be in March but discs may be available late February 2005, confirmation of this will be posted on our website...."

So I guess they'll be here soon...

But we've heard that before... :D

thanks for keeping us posted

^^^^what he said^^^^^^^^^^^

but is this disc going to be useful for golf... or just in distance comp. ??? :confused:

when the discs hits the market what will the price be? any ideas.

and just a follow up "gateway"? why even include them if we're gonna weed out? Even discraft for that matter...

Have you thrown an H illusion by Gateway?
It is very similiar to the disc wing design except for the rounded underside. Players with 300 power are able to get 350 once they get them figured out.
We will be heavily marketing the H illusion as well as the E spirit this year and the good thing is "the mold id already built! :D:o

does that mean weights other than 168?

It is very similiar to the disc wing design except for the rounded underside.



"except" ?? The underside of any disc is similar except for the rounded underside Dave. That is why the Discwing is special. If your discs or any disc dont have a rounded underside how can they be even close to similar?

Have you thrown one Dave? I have and they are awesome and go much further than any other disc.

It is very similiar to the disc wing design except for the rounded underside.



"except" ?? The underside of any disc is similar except for the rounded underside Dave. That is why the Discwing is special. If your discs or any disc dont have a rounded underside how can they be even close to similar?

Have you thrown one Dave? I have and they are awesome and go much further than any other disc.



He was refering to every aspect of the Illusion minus the underside. Of course thats what makes the QK different, he was pointing out how the nose and wing are very similar.

Most golfers, when the hotstamp and marking on the underside are removed, cannot tell the difference or identify one golf disc from another. You know why? Because the


the nose and wing are very similar.



Just sayin'. :D

quote: Have you thrown an H illusion by Gateway?
It is very similiar to the disc wing design except for the rounded underside.

[/QUOTE]

Hmmm... this reminds me of a little story. I took a knife to a Speed Demon and sliced off the plastic on the inner rim, going from quite convex at that point (the Speed Demon has nearly a bead here -- an abrupt convexity) to a much smoother taper. Nothing else changed -- just a little peeling of plastic on the underside. I thought this might make the SD a little less overstable. In fact, though, the disc went from being the most totally overstable pig I had ever thrown to -- voila! -- the most incredibly understable pig I had ever thrown.

Moral #1: Slight differences on the underside of the inner rim can make big differences in flight.

Moral #2: If you slice a pig you will end up with pork.

when the discs hits the market what will the price be? any ideas.



The first production run will be in some premium plastics like Discrafts Z-line, Gateway Evo, Innova Champion...., so I think they still have to keep the price near them to be competitive.

And now it�s approved 21,3 cm diameter, ......at last:
http://www.wfdf.org/index.php?page=rules/rules_approved_discs.htm

There are also som news on their homepage :D:
http://www.discwing.com/

ok ok....i know this disc is spose to be the Sh*t ,but what if it turns out to be another Epic...totally awkward and crazy. Im not saying that its going to be a bad disc because the talk around has been saying its gonna fly like an eagle, but i think that the talk about this disc needs to end until people are out throwing 500+ feet in a tournament before they say its gonna be the best disc ever.

people are already throwing these things VERY far, who cares if its in a tournament? and besides theres a real good chance it will be in tournaments very soon as it has now been PDGA approved, look out distance record.

Big deal. from what Ive read and been told { at Worlds} this disc adds distance.So does a DX Beast.I think the most interesting thing about the QK is that it supposedly will fly farther with less effort, { doesnt every company say that at some point?} making it a great disc for begginers.I think this is all hype.

I agree, I think this thing is going to shatter the distance record.

No Way.

I also heard that b/c of the unique design of the underside, this thing won't stay in prime flight for very long. (Beats up quick)

I figure this disc will probably best the distance record, but so what... aren't we disc golfers here... wouldn't you want a reliable disc that's accurate (not that I am saying the QK isn't but from what I've heard it's not really a pinpoint driver)

I think this disc will be good for long distance drives, and I will probably get one, but as for pushing my Orcs, and TL's out of my bag...

I could be wrong though... :D

My guess would be that a DX Orc will be the next record breaker.Back to the QK, even if the distance record is broken it will be by a accomplished distance thrower, not by some guy in your town that throws far.That being said, if Ken Jarvis {as picked earlier to beat it} does beat it, couldnt that aslo be attributed to further development in his distance as opposed to the disc hes throwin? I guess I would be more impressed if he beat it then picked up a DX Orc and didnt break it.Or, if he went head to head against Sandstrom, both having discs of choice.

I think what people are saying is that the Quarter K, from what people have seen (people throwing it right over the 600 mark at Waterworks at Worlds 04), what people have heard (look on discgolfreview.com and other posts of people who have thrown it), and all the reasearch and development that has gone into this disc, that it has a high probability and design to break the current distance record if properly thrown. Noone's saying that a dx Orc wouldn't go far (because Orcs are about the longest disc out there right now for most), but people are saying that given the design of the Quarter K, it has the best potential to break the record and has the best potential to give the average thrower a longer drive. I could be wrong though, maybe I'm just caught up in the QK hype. :DBut with all of the ads we've seen for the past year or so and from all of the R&D thats gone into the disc (most I've ever heard of, read the info. at the DiscWing site) and from what I've seen (video of people driving it at 04 Worlds and review from people who HAVE thrown it), it must have some potential, you gotta give it that. Either way, i'm really looking forward to getting one. Anyways...

I also heard that b/c of the unique design of the underside, this thing won't stay in prime flight for very long. (Beats up quick)



I heard this too from other people and I think Dave mentioned it on the Ask Dave thread, but from what I hear Disc Wing did extensive reasearch on the polymer for this disc and it should hold up pretty well given the design.

Also, maybe we should all not shoot down this disc like we do so many new discs and companies (right, Chris?), maybe we should give it a chance until we are all shown how horrible it is (i.e. Epic) or isn't. Maybe this could be the next new eveolutionary step in disc design (i.e. beveled edged discs), maybe not (Epic again). I mean, if there were'nt technological advancements in disc design, we'd all be driving Midnight Flyers and Aeros (great discs, just obsolete in design as compared to today's drivers). I honestly hope that it is goingto be the great new thing, but I could be wrong. If anyone has anything to point out (related to design, etc.) why this disc won't work, please share.

I just looked at an old post from Mr. Dunipace that was answering someones question on what he thought of the disc and even he really didn't have anything bad to say about it besides the wear factor. He even went as far to say that the design would work great new, but would wear quickly. I don't think theres a rule that says you can just buy another if it gets worn (a wide rimmed dx orc would wear quickly too). In addition (relating to the whole distance breaking capability thing) i know that there's no rule saying the disc can't be a brand new QK. Just something to think about.

Quote from the Ask Dave thread:

"Paul, I believe I have seen a picture of the retool. If it meets the PDGA specs for rim height, weight, flexibility, etc. (including symmetry), I have no objections. If you are talking about my opinion of the design as a golf disc. I have already explored that design five years ago. It works great new, but becomes very unstable in a short period of time."

In a short period of time... I ASSUME that he means like dx, Pro D, or S plastic time. And that doesn't stop people from throwing dX discs all the time. In fact, a lot of people throw dX material discs because they go further and they just deal with how quickly they wear as compared to Champion, Z, Evolution, etc. Just like how you could throw the "great" throwing QK and deal with the accelerated wear time. Once again, we'll just have to wait until we can all throw one . Which I hope (as I have for almost a year) is soon. :D

Also, maybe we should all not shoot down this disc like we do so many new discs and companies (right, Chris?), maybe we should give it a chance until we are all shown how horrible it is (i.e. Epic) or isn't.



True, true.

Why are you guys speculating about a disc that doesn't exist. I guess it was the same way with the Epic. It looked great on paper and everyone had high hopes, but it was the suck. Oh Well.

When (if) it comes out, I'll try it just like many of you, but for now, we've got other discs and our throws to worry about. Save the QuarterK talk for when there is a QuarterK.

this disc is going to be released so why not speculate about it? it's gonna happen anyways :Dand also as far as i'm concerned this disc already exists because there are protos.

Why do you always care so much what others discuss? It seems every time I read one of your posts they are totally negative or telling other what to do instead of giving a helpful suggestion. Just like on the the Flash vs. Orc thread when you had to go on and on putting down people for thowing Orcs and other wide-rimmed drivers while making sure everyone knew how well you could throw understable Teebirds 8,000 miles into a headwind.


Now, about all you people claiming the Flash and Orc are too flippy, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU!!!! HAVE YOU ALL FORGOTTEN HOW TO THROW??? These discs are not flippy at all. Yes they will flip if you only throw with your arm like you all do. What happened to the old days where disc golfers had technique??? Heres something for you to chew on... I can throw my beat 165 DX Teebird on a 350 slight hyser line with a 20 mph headwind and you guys can't do it with a super low profile overstable disc?! Honestly, you all need to stop buying new discs and start working with what you've got, but most importantly, working on yourselves.



I mean honestly, listen to that nonsense. Great, Grahm can throw a flippy 130 Midnight Flyer into a 45 mph headwind... great Job! "Would you like a cookie?" Obviously (by everyones response) noone on that thread who was DISCUSSING Orcs and Flashes wanted to hear you hate on Orcs and Flashes... Just like how noone on the Discussion of Quarter K drivers thread wants to hear you tell them not to discuss QKs. Makes a whole lot of sense... huh? Discussing what the threads about... who would want to do that??? Then you even went on to contradict yourself saying that you haven't really thrown them and then going off on telling people HOW to throw them. What is it about you that makes you post these ridiculous things? Why are you so rude to others always? This is a thread about the QK... on the DISCUSSION board, so I would only assume this thread is for discussing the QK? Am I right?

this disc is going to be released so why not speculate about it? it's gonna happen anyways :Dand also as far as i'm concerned this disc already exists because there are protos.



Why not speculate about it? I'll tell you why not! Because DiscGraham says we can't until there are at least 3 runs of at least 5000 discs and everyone in the world (except for him, he'll stick to 130 Midgnight Flyers and maybe even one of those new-fangled Aeros) has one. Then, after they're in their 2nd year or so of production and every distributer in the country carries them, then and only then are we are ALLOWED to discuss them. Until then... no further talk of the QK. DiscGraham says so! :D

No, I actually totally agree, why wouldn't we want to speculate about a supposedly revolutionary new driver that has been released in prototype with great results. Especially when it has such an innovative design.. and we've been waiting for it forever. Wouldn't that be all the reason TO discuss and speculate about them. It's like speculating on an IPO (stock) thats about to enter the market or speculating about whether the Vikings will beat the Eagles this Sunday. But all of those things are not allowed either. :D

I also heard that b/c of the unique design of the underside, this thing won't stay in prime flight for very long. (Beats up quick)



If this disc if for distance only, i dont see how it would get beat up quick, or at all, if only used for long, open (treeless) distance shots.

At least where I play, there are rocks in the ground, and roots, and broken beer bottles,....

I hope that discussion like this, would help the discs maker, see problems he may not have thought of.

Yeah, they said they were done with the polymer sampling process, I hope they make it out of durable platic (i.e. Champion, Z, Evolution quality plastic), but even if it isn't it has to be as durable as dx, s, and pro d discs, right? I mean, we've been waiting forever for it, it better be good! :D

Another issue of Disc Golf World News and two more full-page ads. On page 21 is says the Quarter K is out now. It's not out now. The DiscWing website reports the following:


The official release date will be in March but discs may be available late February 2005, confirmation of this will be posted on our website.

I assume this is because of advertising deadlines being before the time that DiscWing knew it would be delayed til late Feb. or March...

Any news? Anyone?



Save for a few hand poured prototpyes, it's NOT out. After years of message board postings, full page ads in Disc Golf World News, there are still no discs. There should be no more Quarter K talk until the first run of 1000 or 2000 are made and are in people's hands.



so are we allowed to talk about it now?

What's there to talk about? Nothing!

bunch of hype!! where is it!!

about 40 feet past your drive!

:D

in about 2 months

/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

LMFAO :D :D

about 40 feet past your drive!

:D

in about 2 months

/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



well, thats not much of an accomplishment!!

maybe we should get on a boat and float our [*****]es over to england and demand the **** disc.
yeah.

i'm gonna make a disc out of innova and discraft plastic and make everyone happy. :D

How are you supposed to hold on to, and throw a disc without a rim. And will it still meet the PDGA requirements for height?

I definately want to throw one before I put any money on one.

looks easy to grip, and i believe these are already legal, just not available.


http://www.discwing.com/images/side-bar01.jpg

Wow, I had never seen a picture of that, and had been told the made the rim extra long and it was described to me like the wide rim of the wide side of an epic.

heres a really good photo i couldn't post on here.


http://discgolfforum.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=337.0;id=204;image

QK is already approved by the PDGA /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

http://www.wfdf.org/index.php?page=rules/rules_approved_discs.htm

Their new ad says out now ......so where are they???

Their new ad says out now ......so where are they???



I think the guy who is making them is trying to throw them to us from over the Atlantic since they are the best distance disc in the world. We should expect them to land on the east coast in the next day, and a few he was able to sky to the Utah/Nevada area, he just doesn't have the arm to reach California.

LMFAO
If you'd seen Jonny play discgolf, you'd know just how funny that is! :D

Seriously though, give the guy a break, he's basically a scientist/mathematician who fell in love with the mechanics of disc flight and thinks he can do something to improve on existing designs.
You guys are beating up on him, mentioning the Epic etc. :mad:
The Epic was an attempt by a large corporation to get in on the discgolf market.
Jonny is one guy, starting up a company, trying to produce his dream without any of the existing disc manufacturing capabilities over there in the US.
The only thing he's maybe guilty of is some naive timescales and premature advertising.

As has already been stated on this thread, the discs will be available late Feb, early March. Plan for end March, what with shipping times etc.

Oh I am just playin around, trying to get a laugh out of people. I am very curious about the QK. I am about as anxious as anyone to try it out. The release of this is similar to a microsoft release in the past. "It will be bigger and better, will change the face of... but we are not sure when it will come out.

Yea, no intended dig at you personally, I realised your comments were in jest :)

The reason for the delays is that he's just one guy, trying to get a business up on it's feet. If Innova had been advertising a new disc for a year and there was no sign of it, I'd understand people being annoyed; they already have the infrastructure in place. Jonny doesn't.

And before I get accused of anything, I'm not a distributor, have no stake in what he's doing, I'm just a guy who likes chucking plastic, and this thing rips!!

I wonder how a disc gets PDGA approved before the actual production tool is even built.
The mold could wind up quite different and I know for a fact the shrinkages will.
His discs have been hand poured thermo-set not injection molded, which is a big difference.
I also thought that there had to be 1500 made before they could be used in pdga events.
Is there a differnec between pdga approved and approved for play in pdga events?
The site the disc was listed on was the WFDF is it also on the pdga approved disc list?

well put...

and i think it is PDGA approved

No taxation without disc representation

Approved discs (http://www.wfdf.org/index.php?page=rules/rules_approved_discs.htm)

Having had another look at the site (reposted so everyone else doesn't have to trawl the thread like I did :)), the top of the page says:

(Data provided by the PDGA Technical Standards Committee - updated 12/9/05)



So I'm guessing it's PDGA approved. Albeit apparently by some kind of time travel. 9th Dec 2005?!?

Having said that, I can't see the Wizard on there! Isn't it approved? :eek:

The wizard is the chief renamed (should have called it the Shaman)

It changed names after they came out with the supersofts, I guess they didnt go with the name Shaman cause no matter how soft it is, your not supposed to squeeze the Shaman.

now dat was funny!

I wonder how a disc gets PDGA approved before the actual production tool is even built.
The mold could wind up quite different and I know for a fact the shrinkages will.
His discs have been hand poured thermo-set not injection molded, which is a big difference.
I also thought that there had to be 1500 made before they could be used in pdga events.
Is there a differnec between pdga approved and approved for play in pdga events?
The site the disc was listed on was the WFDF is it also on the pdga approved disc list?



Yea, this seems awful fishy to me.

How was a hand-poured prototype PDGA approved?

I thought the actual production run of at least 1500 was what had to be PDGA approved!

I suspect what has been approved is the dimensions-to-weight ratio etc. The 1500-run thing is probably a further requirement the disc has to pass when the run is completed.

Considering that Jonny is establishing a new company, it only seems fair that there should be a way of establishing whether a disc is legal 'in principle' without commiting to producing 1500 of the things! After that, it'd be up to Jonny to produce a run that remains within the guidelines the disc was approved under.

But I might be wrong, I'm no expert.

Got an email from DiscWing today...
They are fully approved and a pre production run was ran and those disc will be in the hands of distributors in a few weeks. (Yeah!!!) :) They are going to start running the first production run in a week or so. The official release is now April. :( They will come in weights of 165 - 175 grams and come in only white with black stamp and red with white stamp. they'll look just like the ones in the ads in DGWN. The plastic will not be a slick transluscent Champion/Z/Evoution type plastic, it will have a very grippy leatherlike feel to it. Just wanted to keep everyone updated on the release (finally!) of the new Quarter K driver.

thanx!

I'll believe it when I see it, but this news combined with the knowledge that at least one vendor that I know of is taking pre-orders leads me to think we're at least getting close.

If after all the hype this disc turns out to be a POS, I'm NOT gonna be amused.

We are getting close...
But I guess I thought that in December when prototypes were being auctioned on E-Bay... we'll see if the mythological Quarter K really does exist, I'm really looking forward to seing what this new plastic is all about, supposedly tough as all the premium lines, but with the feel, grip, and glide of dx/s/pro/x plastic... sounds SWEET!
I'll post a pic as soon as I get my preproductions! :D

Any info on what the pricing is going to look like?

The vendor is selling them for $18, which is discounted from an original price of $20 each.

any one know what type of flight this disc should have? other than long!!

maybe like a longer sidewinder sort of, it's suppossedly has a fairly high propensity for high speed fade if you can throw decently far and will have a nice fade at the end, i'm pretty sure the guy who runs discgolfforum bought one of the prototypes and has a review on his site as well as the one on Blake T's site. You should go read those! Also, 18 on sale, 20 regular seems a bit steep, Disc Wing told me they would be very competatively priced with other premium lines (i.e. Champion, Elite Z, Evoution, etc.) and I sure as hell wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a Champion teebird from a vendor...

I'm surprised they're that cheap. The dollar is weak right now.

Is this the new deadline for them to push back? This disc is definitely the longest on the market today... not by distance, but by time to release. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

lol
definitely the longest awaited disc ever...

From what I understand the rim mass is too great on this disc to mold it in the "champion" type plastic and still be within legal weight. So $18 might not be such a good deal if it is made with a plastic that will wear quickly. Especially if it is not that stable of a disc to begin with, which is what I have heard from the people who have thrown it. :p

The discs I have thrown with Johnny Potts are control discs. What I mean is that if you are a beginner with little snap and power, they should be long straight flying discs. If you have a powerful arm or a powerful snap, you will have to control your throwing more than you would with a standard driver. If i throw normal, the disc is more flippy like a sidewinder, if i let off my throw and throw like i would throw a roc, then it flys fairly straight and a large amount of distance. I can throw the disc just as far as a beast with a lot less power. An advanced player would need to control the speed of there throw or compensate alot with the angle of release.

sounds like fun. :D

The things is discs will evolve over time...the quarter k is just a gimmic (not to say that anyone hasnt suggested the same). As i have learned in sports there is no miracle equipment, nothing will substitute a good session in the field. I remember guys in college would all be raving about the newest bat designs in baseball and a coach would always step in and say "i watched two kids in mexico hit better than you swinging a stick with a knot at the end"....while im into the hype,(and im sure ill buy the disc) i know its not going to change my game!

While in essense your post is accurate, some of the triple walled bats they made (that were soon outlawed I think) were just incredible power producers. All you had to do was hit a pop fly and it sailed forever. I think the rise of the world record for throwing distance going back to an XL at like 690 feet up to the over 800 feet has to be explained by the disc also. The Quarter K may end up being the best disc to ever hit the game, but the only problem is that it has to actually exist for us to find out. ;)

Hell yea, I pay �15 for Z-plastic this side of the pond. That's �, go look up the exchange rate... :mad:

understable with a long drift!! huh!!

****, that's like almost $30 a disc!!! :p

It might explain why my bag is full of DX plastic, only �8 a disc for that!

But I'll get bags full of Quarter K's cheaper than you. If I can just work out how to approach and putt with them, I'll be sorted... :)

Thats terrible, you must have high salaries on your island. We are paying around 120-125 swedish crowns (Thats about 16-17bucks ) for a standard champion disc!

Aren't you guys onto Euros yet?!?

If prices are like that in Finland too, I'll be picking up a lot of plastic at the Euros in July!

No, we are still using our own SEK, it�s a pity, I would have prefferred the Euro.
The prices I gave you are the swedish websites. DX, ProD costs around �6 / Pro and Elite X around �7,50 / Z, Evo, Champion are around �9,50.
At the tour events they are normally a bit higher :confused:.
The prices in Finland also looks a bit higher, but I don�t are there any neighbours/ Finns on the forum who can tell us the truth? ;)

This is turning into a thread of EPIC proportions. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

:D:D:D:p

Cut it out Jon. You're Dragon me down. :D

Wolf, Wolf!!

I smell a Polecat.

Maybe that's Wrigley's "GumPutt" that smells.

enough talk !! let us throw them!!

I can't wait for the next hot new thread: "How Do I Throw My Quarter K?" :D

Farther than any disc :confused:

I can't wait for the next hot new thread: "How Do I Throw My Quarter K?" :D


Well at this point it is kinda like air guitar with a disc. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Is it true that this design beats up very fast and becomes way understable?

Its kind of hard to tell with no actual production runs ever made isn't it?

you would think so... :D

Ive heard from a pretty valuable source that the that the production runs are quite different from the protos and they are rather flippy :eek:

Johhny,
If you read this and it's true and want some advice on how to make them more overstable through polymers or profiles of injection; please call me or have your molder call me.
314 303 1488 or send me an e mail [email protected]

I could have valuble information that may help!

Dave, I passed this info. on to Jonny in a recent reply I sent him. Hope you can give them some help and make sure the QK is at it's full potential! :D

I just found out that because the Quarter K isn't a bevel edged disc, its more of an airfoil, the wear it receives from contact with the ground will not make it really understable really quick like everyone thinks. Jonny says that, if anything, wear will cause the disc to become slightly more overstable as it's design is what gives it it's understability. Also, the platic will not be a TPU, it will be slightly less durable, but since wear wont affect the disc as much as a normal bevel edged driver, it is being made in a leathery really really grippy plastic...
and he ran a 147 QK, that was extremely understable, but with about 1/3 power, he said he could easily throw it 300 feet!!! :)

TPU?

and thanks for the heads up!

Thermal Poly Urethane??? :eek:

TPU stands for Thermoplastic Polyurethane, like Champion/Elite Z/Evolution, the most durable of the polymers used for making discs, also the heaviest and most expensive...
TPE stands for Thermoplastic Elastomer. like Pro Line/dx/pro d/s/h plastic, TPEs are less durable but cheaper to produce and durability of them can be increased through additives, like I assume the ProLine and H plastic has to differentiate them (durability and memory wise) from the pro d/dx/s plastics...

I found this picture of the wing of the disc...

http://discgolfdepot.com/coming%20soon/discwingprofile.jpg

Awesome pic man. I was a little skeptical at first, but I think the QK might just be what its supposed to. Everyone who has thrown one has said they've driven farther and straighter immediately. The way that Jonnny tells it is that it WILL revolutionize disc golf. I know most people say that this is just hype, and doubt...

But thats EXACTLY what everyone said when Dave came up with the idea of beveled edged discs. Not even Ed Headrick would support it! Now, all of us swear by beveled edge discs...

Let's hear what everyone has to say about all this as I know there are alot of opinions on this matter..

i believe this disc will be very usefull to all non-sponsored players when it does finally come out, and will eventually incourage a similar disc from other companys. i base that opinion off of what i've read/heard from people who have thrown it so i could easily be mistaken. :)

http://discgolfdepot.com/coming%20soon/discwingprofile.jpg That's very aesthetically pleasing...not unlike Brancusi's "Bird in Space"

The new discwing was in AZ at the memorial it flew awsome.It was very stable, none of the big arms could turn it over. Lots of the players got a chance to throw it,
FAR.
Steve mills and Barry both got one of the new protos for thier awsome win ;) The new plastic was the best I have ever felt in the rain real grippy.The production will be in a more durable plastics, but I hope he keeps this plastic also. It was nice to meet some of our chat room characters.I did not play in the event but got a chance to survey 8 golf courses in the area. Spring is in the air.Game On :)

so the proto run ones are here finally? i hope i get mine soon! :)

I have one in my bag that im going to hang out the wall :D

These things are SUPER SUPER SUPER FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

from the looks of your Memorial scores, people better watch out anyways! :D

from the looks of your Memorial scores, people better watch out anyways!



Thanks. I hope that is true :D We shall see when i get to BG :D