Dec 20 2004, 02:43 AM
I hear they go far.....I need to know if they are worth buying.......

Dec 20 2004, 02:47 AM
I'm going to try and win the one on ebay so maybe i'll be able to tell you soon.

Dec 20 2004, 02:50 AM
I saw that one its heavy....like 190 or something....if they are anything like the epic it will suck!!!

Dec 20 2004, 03:38 AM
Yeah, i'm not really expecting anything, and it's prolly gonna sell for more than i'm willing to pay. but, throw it 10 times so i know if the ones that get pressed en masse are the same as this one.

Dec 20 2004, 03:48 AM
I saw that one its heavy....like 190 or something....if they are anything like the epic it will suck!!!




190?? Condor Jr???

I really doubt they are going to be like the epic. The 1/4K seems to be much more of a conventional design. (although in theory, the epic would be a good flyer, but theory and application are 2 totally differnt things ;) )

vwkeepontruckin
Dec 20 2004, 05:13 AM
I saw that one its heavy....like 190 or something....if they are anything like the epic it will suck!!!




190?? Condor Jr???

I really doubt they are going to be like the epic. The 1/4K seems to be much more of a conventional design. (although in theory, the epic would be a good flyer, but theory and application are 2 totally differnt things ;) )



As noted in a different thread, the 1/4K seemed similar to an Illusion, which does NOT suck. (Saw one at Worlds, and would say its a real golf disc...not a novelty of Epic proportions :eek:)

Dec 20 2004, 05:33 AM
As noted in a different thread, the 1/4K seemed similar to an Illusion, which does NOT suck. (Saw one at Worlds, and would say its a real golf disc...not a novelty of Epic proportions :eek:)


thats good to read :cool:

bruceuk
Dec 20 2004, 07:57 AM
All the pre-production run discs are heavy, as they're not using the production plastic. The production run will be in more normal weight ranges, Jonny assures me...

Dec 20 2004, 08:22 AM
235.99, thats crazy. Could buy a whole lot a CE for that. Sure its gonna go up too. How do you know this one ways 190? Didnt see a weight listed. And if the plastic is different, not a true tell of how the production model will throw. I doubt if this or the first one sold will ever see air time anyway. Another wall rider.

bruceuk
Dec 20 2004, 08:30 AM
None of the QKs on sale are approved for use. They're sold, with certificates of authenticity, as collectors items/wall discs, not for use. What part of this are people missing?

Look, I've thrown proper weight prototypes (3 or four between 162-170g), they go a hell of a long way, my review is elsewhere on this forum, under the Discwing discs thread.

I love this disc, it's awesome to throw, as it just keeps on going. That said, I don't know if it'll ever have a place in my bag! I need to take one out on a dozen practice rounds in various wind conditions and see how accurate/consistant I can be with it before I decide. Much like any new disc.

Dec 20 2004, 02:17 PM
None of the QKs on sale are approved for use. They're sold, with certificates of authenticity, as collectors items/wall discs, not for use. What part of this are people missing?



The part that says, it's gonna be nice to throw this one to see if the ones that get manufactured are the same as this one that's been advertised for years... or if we've been getting jerked for 2 years while the real thing gets designed.

rick_bays
Dec 20 2004, 03:17 PM
All the pre-production run discs are heavy, as they're not using the production plastic. The production run will be in more normal weight ranges, Jonny assures me...



This statement sets off caution signs in my head, Bruce.

If they change plastic, its likely the flight characteristics will change, too. The shape of the finished disc will change when different plastic is used in the same mold.

Welcome to the world of injection molding. :)

Dec 20 2004, 03:22 PM
Peolple are sickof waiting...you would think the company would try to get them out by xmas.....are they growing the rubber trees to make the plastic???? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Cdale600
Dec 20 2004, 04:39 PM
I read somewhere that these early ones on ebay were Hand Poured...so it is likely they don't actually have the final injection mold yet.

Dec 20 2004, 07:54 PM
The 30 are hand poured. I've talked to johnny potts a few times and he tells me that i'll have manfg samples very soon after the new year and that they will be available in quantity very soon after. *shrugs* This info is like... 3 days old.

Cdale600
Dec 20 2004, 08:06 PM
On a side note making a disc mold and hand pouring a few discs is an interesting, fun, and highly challenging project if anyone is ever looking for a time and money wasting hobby to drive you crazy. On the other hand if anyone has ever wanted a 245g driver it's probably the best way to get one (just a touch overstable...:P). I made about 20 discs and only got 1 under 175 grams. The colors you can make are pretty sweet though. The flight plate is so thin that the only way we got the mold to fill completely without bubbles was using a vacuum pump. Then again I am not a professional mold maker... There's a reason these things are injection molded.

Dec 20 2004, 08:09 PM
cdale, what do you think of this idea for training? Http://www.trainingdisc.com
Instead of gaining size in the disc, which is inevitable if we were to pour a 250 g disc. I don't know, ...i want a 225-250 gm disc for DP

ryangwillim
Dec 20 2004, 08:23 PM
I hear they go far.....I need to know if they are worth buying.......



I threw a QK a couple weeks ago. It does not take a lot of effort to throw far. I released the disc about the same as I would throw a valkyrie, and it did seem to pick up speed when it flattened out, it was fun to watch. If the disc comes out under $20 then I would suggest you buy one just to see how it flies, and if nothing else, to have fun throwing around.

I think it will mostly benefit the people with weaker arms more so than those that are already "power" throwers. People that use valkyries as their primary distance disc will like the QK. People that throw overstable plastic probably won't want to change their style to accomodate a QK. Some of the hype surrounding this disc seems to be true, but until we get a production model, we won't know for sure.

Cdale600
Dec 21 2004, 10:39 AM
That trainingdisc is a neat idea. The really heavy ones I got were a result of the not matching the two halves of the mold up correctly so some of the disc had a double lip. Once we remade half the mold we got the correct lip but most were still too heavy with a thicker than average flight plate. The one disc we got that came out correctly, filled completely, with the correct flight plate flew great. 1 out of 20 though is a lot of effort for one disc.

Training with a really heavy disc might be beneficial, though the extra muscle required just to get the thing up on a straight line has the potential to either be helpful or cause overcompensation in the throw mechanics, so I think you would have to be careful.

Moderator005
Dec 21 2004, 01:18 PM
I just wish the never ending hype over this disc would end. We've been hearing about it for years now. Message board postings, full page ads in Disc Golf World News, and yet still no disc. I decree that there should be no more Quarter K talk until the first run of 1000 or 2000 are made and are in people's hands.

Dec 21 2004, 08:37 PM
yes, i thought about the overcompensation thing. i'm going to try and make a few prototypes out of some x outs i think to see how it works.

I'll be throwing the qk that i just bought on ebay and taking about 50 pics and giving it a real full in depth review. That way we know if the production runs are the same or different or better...???