Anyone else use Dragons for roller shots?
I recently discovered by accident that this disc rolls really well! And it is rediculously reliable. I used to use a leopard for rollers, but was never sure which was it was gonna go. My Dragon *always* goes straight, then tails off to the left (I'm throwing back-hand lefty). I've even started using it for tricky left hook downhill shots. I can't believe how well it works for me. Definitely gotta find me another.
I am sure lots of people on here will dig them out for ya! :D Seriously, how much "d" do you get with one?
Well I'm a lowly am3 so what I consider great D and what you might consider great D could be worlds apart. But I've hit over 300ft rolling my dragon, and I think that's pretty sweet. I can get as far with a good backhand shot, but it's nice to have something that will go left, especially when the is a low ceiling or obsticles, when rolling is a great option.
cbdiscpimp
Dec 06 2004, 04:22 PM
Well I'm a lowly am3 so what I consider great D and what you might consider great D could be worlds apart. But I've hit over 300ft rolling my dragon, and I think that's pretty sweet. I can get as far with a good backhand shot, but it's nice to have something that will go left, especially when the is a low ceiling or obsticles, when rolling is a great option.
:eek: :eek: :eek: I can throw my Crystal Z Challenger 300 ft :eek: :eek: :eek:
cbdiscpimp
Dec 06 2004, 04:37 PM
Im only kidding with you. Thats pretty good D for a AM3. Maybe you should move up. I know some Advanced players that can barely throw over 300 :eek:
I can throw my drives right at about 300 on good days... sad thing is that my wizards will go out past 250.
girlie
Dec 06 2004, 04:42 PM
I can throw my Crystal Z Challenger 300 ft
Great for you Millzy, but I don't see how this statement contributes any sort of important information for this thread. :confused:
I have not personally tried to throw a roller with a dragon. I mostly used them in the beginning of my tourney career when there was a water hole. I have a great fear of throwing my plastic over water because it usually ends up IN the water (*cough* like this weekend when I threw a total of 5 discs into the water at Trophy Lakes - got some back others are still swimming). When a dragon goes in the water it floats! Woo-Hoo! Except that I the dragon is so understable that I flip it out over the water and usually test it's floating properties...
I would think the dragon would make a fine roller although I haven't tried it. I am currently rolling a really beat dx firechicken and it goes F A R. Next I want to try a sidewinder roller when I can find one in a lower weight.
Luke Butch
Dec 06 2004, 04:45 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: I can throw my Crystal Z Challenger 300 ft :eek: :eek: :eek:
I've thrown a soft magnet approx. 320' :D
I've never thrown a Crystal Challenger, but they must go farther cause of the stability.
Try rolling a Stratus, it's the best(I'l start the debate) roller disc out there. Once you learn how to roll with that you'll be able to make it go any way you want it to. It will have more consistancy because it is slower than a dragon, but will probably still go as far.
Might want to stay on the Ontario board where there are players that can't roll or throw 300'. :D Some people are cruel and try to make others feel bad cause they can't throw 550' :D.
cbdiscpimp
Dec 06 2004, 05:01 PM
Aight ill contribute to this thread. I throw rollers with a Flash or a Crush or a light weight X Pred. I would say the Flash is the one that takes the least amount of effort to roll. Then the Crush then i really have to get over on my X Pred if it isnt that beat up. I dont throw a hole lot of rollers. I just started to this year and am having pretty good success but if its under 450 i just use an airshot. I am alot more consistent with those. I will be using more rollers though next year. Its something im trying to learn cuz its a shot you NEED to have if you want to be good someday. Which is one of my goals :D
Im only kidding with you. Thats pretty good D for a AM3. Maybe you should move up. I know some Advanced players that can barely throw over 300 :eek:
I will probably move up next summer. I've only been playing for a year and a half, and just started getting any decent amount of D, due to using 150 class drivers and figuring out the pull across the chest method. Once I get some more consistency and turn those 4 and 5's into 3 and 4's I'll consider moving up to am2. Right now I'm shooting anywhere from 10-20 over par so I don't think anyone is going to accuse me of sandbaggin :cool:
The thing that has really struck me about using the Dragon for a roller is that I don't have to do anything special to get it to roll. I just throw it flat like I would any normal backhand throw, it'll then go a ways, then fall on it's edge and roll. Maybe this behavior is unique to this particular dragon I don't know, but I'll definitely be trying with other Dragons.
riverdog
Dec 06 2004, 05:14 PM
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Try rolling a Stratus, it's the best(I'l start the debate) roller disc out there. Once you learn how to roll with that you'll be able to make it go any way you want it to. It will have more consistancy because it is slower than a dragon, but will probably still go as far.
Check out the Sidewinder thread. I threw a Stratus for RHFH get out of jail rollers and RHBH distance rollers, but eventually gravitated to DX Stingrays for both. In less than a week though the new Champ Sidewinder has totally changed my roller game. Give 'em a try. You will definitely be glad you did.
girlie
Dec 06 2004, 05:24 PM
The thing that has really struck me about using the Dragon for a roller is that I don't have to do anything special to get it to roll. I just throw it flat like I would any normal backhand throw, it'll then go a ways, then fall on it's edge and roll. Maybe this behavior is unique to this particular dragon I don't know, but I'll definitely be trying with other Dragons.
I started rolling with an optimizer because of that same flight path (that's what will happen to an understable disc when you start throwing with some snap and arm speed). I throw it flat RHBH and it turned over on it's side and rolled. Ditto on checking out the sidewinder thread - it looks like this new disc is a roller dream, very understable - throw it flat or almost flat and it will fly then turn and roll!
Luke Butch
Dec 06 2004, 06:46 PM
The thing that has really struck me about using the Dragon for a roller is that I don't have to do anything special to get it to roll. I just throw it flat like I would any normal backhand throw, it'll then go a ways, then fall on it's edge and roll. Maybe this behavior is unique to this particular dragon I don't know, but I'll definitely be trying with other Dragons.
I started rolling with an optimizer because of that same flight path (that's what will happen to an understable disc when you start throwing with some snap and arm speed). I throw it flat RHBH and it turned over on it's side and rolled. Ditto on checking out the sidewinder thread - it looks like this new disc is a roller dream, very understable - throw it flat or almost flat and it will fly then turn and roll!
That's because it is impossible for almost anyone to throw this disc over 300' in the air. It's an Auto- roller. I think it's more understable than the old Lightning P- 38. Dosen't take a beating well at all though.
I had an Optimizer and sold it for $1. I felt bad because I thought I might be ripping the guy off.
I've seen someone hit a freshly planted tree, (don' t know proper term for young tree) it wasn't even an inch in diameter, but it still tacoed the dragon. I threw one as a roller once, and just the impact on the ground warped it. I was far from pleased with the purchase of that disc. :mad: