Ok I really love my 150 Beast. But as my drive is developing I seem to be flipping it over way too easily.

Lets say all things are condisered equal and there is no wind. If I throw my brand new 150 beast backhand (left handed), it will turn left right away, and often not come back, only doing half of the coveted S.

I know a tailwind will cause discs to fly more stable, and that's the case with this beast. When there is a tail wind I can throw a prefect hyzer with it, and if it does turnover, it comes back.

So... This disc works great with a tailwind, but not quite right when there is no wind, and definitely no good when there is a headwind. Would using a heavier Beast help correct this? Any idea how much weight I'd have to add? Is there any kind of crazy calculation that says 50km/h tailwind = x number of grams on a disc?

I used to throw a light beast and still use it from time to time. You may want to try an Orc at around 168 to 170. I think you will like it, very dependable.

is it a dx or champ? dx is more stable. just go to a heavier 170+ version of tthe 150

get a champion orc in the high 150s.

Perhaps newer, perhaps heavier.

Orcs have a more stable high speed flight path then the beast but do not fade as hard. I find that they land in almost exactly the same spot for me, just different routes. Champ Orc is farther then the Champ Beast, but DX Beast kicks both their butts, I cannot wait for the DX Orc.

But stick with the weight your comfortable with, and try an Orc.

Cool - thanks for the input.

I prefer DX and I prefer 150 class, although with my new Flick I am starting to get used to the gummier type of Z/Chamption plastic. I just got a 150 champion Valk that feels real good.

I'm worried that increasing the weight would cost me some D. Although recently I doubled my D and I'm not sure whether it was technique, 150 class, or a combination of both.

I've got a 165 DX Beast, 162 Champion Beast, and a 150 Champion Orc coming soon. So hopefully between all those I'll find something that really works well when there is no tail wind.

Theres a chance you loose some "D" for not being used to the heavier discs, but in time you will gain it back and then some!

I find the heavier discs carry much better, or have longer low speed fade/carry than lighter discs. I always had thrown lighter plastic, and if I didnt crush the light disc, it would "sputter out" rather quickly. Now I'm throwing max weight, and even if i dont get all of it, it carries further. Experiment and see what works best for you.

Erick

If you like the beast then stick with it. I love my beast although I have never thrown anyhtin under a 165. If you go with a heavier weight you will not experience as much turn over. I would say bump it up to a 160 and work your way up from there. Although you might not think that 10 grams is much difference it is when it comes to the flight characteristics.