How do you throw a roller so that it rolls straight? I've only been able to get the disc to do this on occasion and it was not on purpose, or I wouldn't be posting this question.

Not trying to be an *** about it, but it just takes a lot of practice and a disc with the right stability.

Practice, practice, practice.

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and then tell me how to do it

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Everyone that I have helped with it has been in person.
Its just one of those things you need to be shown by someone that can do it.

Ask some of your local players if they can help. After you understand the basics of it, the practice and practice some more. :D

I wish I could ask the locals, But I tend to play by myself during my lunch and I'm usually the only one out there. What type of release do you use?

I use the same grip (power grip) for my rollers as for my back hand throws. I just put it on an extreme anhyzer so that it sets down on it's edge and starts it's roll.

I rarely use a two finger roller unless I'm in a tight spot.

Check the video and photo breakdown of Danny Reeves (http://discgolfreview.com/resources/analysis/dannyreeves2.shtml) throwing a RHBH roller at discreview.com for clues.

How do you throw a roller so that it rolls straight? I've only been able to get the disc to do this on occasion and it was not on purpose, or I wouldn't be posting this question.



(Advice for an RHBH thrower)
I don't know exactly where you are running into problems but when I see most people try to learn a roller they usually try to make the disc land completely vertical like this ..... | ........
This will cause the disc to turn to quickly once it hits the ground.

You should try to make the disc land at an angle like this .... \ ......

When it hits the ground it will force itself to stand up into the vertical poistion and then roll straight. As it slows down it will eventually turn left or right, depending on what type of disc was used (understable -> right -- overstable -> left)
(RHBH)

If you are just learning this I think the best disc you could use is a very beat-up disc that really wants to go to the right when you throw it. ( I use a Cobra, but other popular rollers are: Stingray, Valkyrie, Leopard -- all of which are understable) Release with flat or anhyser release.

Hope this helps.

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I've got this extra DE_STROYED 150 dx gazelle that is 11 years old, and when released at about 4 oclock, still has the moxy to flip right over and catch its edge. I usually end up puting rollers on the ground waaaay early, making them peter out kinda quick... but the doodoo disc gets thrown like a normal driver, but the fooker stands right up. So yeah, don't use your new discs. I also use a broken in valk for those tall spike rollers, and a dx cobra for normal rollers, and when I'm feeling especially brain damaged, I throw the rhyno for short/midrange rollers.

btw, all my friends can't wait til the day I actually loose my doodoo disc, the bastards. I guess they get tired of looking for it with me on every fifth throw :p

My favorite roller is..........A stingray.......Max weight....
It works like crazy at audabon(spelling) Texas.2 holes after the big hyser,Before crossing the creek,And in Tenn. Two rivers

My favorite roller is..........A stingray.......Max weight....
It works like crazy at audabon(spelling) Texas.2 holes after the big hyser,Before crossing the creek,And in Tenn. Two rivers



I would say the quickest way to a decent roller would be the following: Stingrays, Cobras, Sabres and Stratus.

I use a Buzzz or Wasp depending on the wind. Put it down quick and they go straight for a LONG time. Drivers just have to much "action" for me.

an article on the subject:
http://www.discgolferusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewarticle&newsid=14

i think it is important to differentiate between types of rollers for the landing angle reference...
controlled rollers will generally hit the ground early and with a lot of velocity giving them the most time to "stand up." with a very beat disc you can often land these at 45 degrees or less...

power/turnover/distance rollers generally will depend upon your power level and how far you can make the disc travel in the air. if you can get 300' of D in the air and still make it carry velocity into the roll, then you will probably be landing somewhere in the 45-60 degree range depending upon how beat the disc is.

sky rollers will generally burn up a lot of velocity upon landing as they tend to bounce a bit more and therefore it is often a better choice to land them more upright. somewhere in the 60 degrees or higher range will often work well.

as with most dg shots, there really isn't a consistent roller shot that will not tail off in one direction. if say, rolling straight for 80% of the D is good enough, that is realistic.

an article on the subject:
http://www.discgolferusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewarticle&newsid=14

i think it is important to differentiate between types of rollers for the landing angle reference...
controlled rollers will generally hit the ground early and with a lot of velocity giving them the most time to "stand up." with a very beat disc you can often land these at 45 degrees or less...

power/turnover/distance rollers generally will depend upon your power level and how far you can make the disc travel in the air. if you can get 300' of D in the air and still make it carry velocity into the roll, then you will probably be landing somewhere in the 45-60 degree range depending upon how beat the disc is.

sky rollers will generally burn up a lot of velocity upon landing as they tend to bounce a bit more and therefore it is often a better choice to land them more upright. somewhere in the 60 degrees or higher range will often work well.

as with most dg shots, there really isn't a consistent roller shot that will not tail off in one direction. if say, rolling straight for 80% of the D is good enough, that is realistic.



Well said. You are THE man.

I had a beat up Leopard that was great for rollers. I can't seem to duplicate the same performace

how do you generally throw your ro ller? what type of release and flight path do you use ? how far out do you usually land etc? there is most definately a replacement for your L.

With the old Leopard I threw flat. No anhyzer.

To be honest, I havn't really practiced enough throwing rollers to even explain my form.

i roll with a brand new 171g X xpress. i have to release it flat to a slight hyzer, and it rolls a mile

For sidearm rollers, would you use an understable disc just as with a backhand roller? I see people on here saying they sidearm roll with a firebird? I am trying to learn the sidearm roller, with backhand I roll a leopard and a Flash.

Use a Firebird (or similar) for FH rollers, released with lots of spin (wrist) and at a 1 o'clock angle. Then walk down 500' and pick it up. :)

The key to keep it from curling left (RHFH) is the angle and the stability of the disc. Less overstable discs will peel out faster, as will slower discs. I throw a CE Spider FH roller for a 275' max left hook.

The arm angle is similar to a 3/4's delivery in baseball. From that point, I'm able to adjust my arm and disc angles for wind, shot path, etc.

For sidearm rollers I use an overstable disc such as a Firebird but even more I use the Monster. If you don't the disc will flip over or turn out much too quickly. On occasion I will use a heavy Orc but you have to get it tipped into the roll pretty far or it will stand up and fall over in the first 200 feet. As a side note I use an express for my back hand rollers. I've speculated to myself that the difference is that you can't get the same combination of torque and power on the forehand as you acheive on the backhand.

Cool. Thanks!

For backhand rollers i use: SE Leopard, CE Teebird TL
Forehand rollers: Champ teebird/11x or Z Pred

short range forehand rollers Cryztal Challenger

I don't do sidarm rollers, I only do BH...

For about <380 I will use an old plastic stratus that I will aim right with a little hyzer tilt, then it will flip hard and hit the ground 100ft. out and have a little angle. Then it will roll about 280ft. more. For >380 I will use a 168g Z XL that likes to go really straight for a long time :D.