I was given last year's Worlds and NT DVDs and I love them. However, I a couple of modifications for this years would be great.

First, it would be nice to be given distances on the holes covered. I use these DVDs as a guide to training and those distances give some perspective.

Second, better quality DVDs would be greatly appreciated. The quality of the DVDs used last year is bad at best. After only 4 months they are cracking and falling apart around the spindle (?) hole. I have patched them with super glue but have not had the same problem with other DVDs and CDs that I own.

yea, my dvds from last year also cracked around the spindle and I've only watched them 2-3 times each.

I was going to buy them this week. Do you think you just got bad DVD's, or they are all really that poorly made. Do you think I should get video tapes instead? Has everyone had this problem?

Tough Call BMaster.

I know that mine fragmented pretty badly around the spindle hole, and I mean badly - but they still play fine before and after I glued them! If you are comfortable with tape I might consider that. I am going to wait and see what the PDGA says about the DVD situation. My experience is always if they know they fix. I prefer DVD myself and even knowing the potential problem will buy the DVD and if it frags figure out a way to get it ripped to a new DVD.

BTW - The NT and Worlds DVD from last year has been one of the best disc golf experiences I've ever had. It's a blast watching the top players in the convenience of your own home!

Thank you for taking the time to reply, Lyle. I was picking up some discs today and saw the DVD's and couldn't help myself so I went ahead a got one. I will treat it very gently and may back it up if it is showing signs of cracking. My friend introduced me to disc golf just two weeks ago, and I was instantly hooked. When I went and got me first discs I bought a copy of the 2000 US Championships and really enjoyed it so I am looking to get more tapes, or preferrably DVD's to watch. Thanks again for your reply, I'm off to watch 2003!

I have not had any problems out of mine at all, they work great.

I burned me a back-up copy, but regardless the original has held up like a champ. This is the 2003 Pro Worlds DVD though. I do not have the 2003 NT DVD.

Our 2003 Pro Worlds DVD is holding up fine. Megan has probably watched it 1,000 times. :D

When can we expect to see the 2004 Worlds DVD???

When can we expect to see the 2004 Worlds DVD???


I just hope they use that shot of me making a 10-foot putt. I stradled out to the side to give the camera a great view of the Pokemon towel I used to wipe my disc.

Come on Houck, talk 'em into using the shot! :)

I hope they use the shot of me making a 30 footer to save four. Then throwing a roller on the next tee pad :D I love showing off for the camera :D

Well...so far I have burned through two copies of the NT DVD and I am on my way to going through a third unfortunately. I have switched over to watching the USDGC video though lately. The USDGC video is ok, but I think that the NT video is still the best one out there.(Until the 2004 Worlds dvd comes out :D)

When can we expect to see the 2004 Worlds DVD???



Some of us already have :D. We're currently reviewing draft copies. There's so much to cover that we made the decision that rather than cutting out lots of divisions, we would release it as a two-dvd package!

Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner

When can we expect to see the 2004 Worlds DVD???



Some of us already have :D. We're currently reviewing draft copies. There's so much to cover that we made the decision that rather than cutting out lots of divisions, we would release it as a two-dvd package!

Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner



With as big of an event as we put on...I think a 2 dvd set is just what the doctor ordered.

Please make sure the Pokemon towel gets in. :)

When can we expect to see the 2004 Worlds DVD???



Some of us already have :D. We're currently reviewing draft copies. There's so much to cover that we made the decision that rather than cutting out lots of divisions, we would release it as a two-dvd package!

Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner



Excellent! Now I can drive my wife even crazier than before watching late night discgolf!

Same here....I watch either the NT, Worlds or USDGC dvd in the morning while I am eating breakfast and my wife hates it. She is especially getting tired of the USDGC dvd. I fear that I will come home some day from work and she will have taken a razor blade to it and sratched it beyond use.

I watch it at night while I stretch and do Yoga. She just shakes her head...

When do you think they might be out for sale?
Thank you, the 2 DVD set thing sounds very cool.
Boobs

Is the Bell South Open or Great Lakes Open going to be in be 04' DVD?

Well that just sucks :( thanks for the link!

And folks interested in having coverage of their Event included in Disc Golf Live can contact me. Fully edited segments are welcome, and I can also edit rough footage sent my way.

So if you have footage of your event on hand, or want to capture the action at an upcoming event, please get in touch with me..

I'd also like to hear from folks who want to see course reviews, player interviews, and community happenings covered on Disc Golf Live. Its easy to capture all the footage necessary and send it my way.

Finally, folks who want copies of the show for broadcast on their local community access / public access TV station should contact me about their free copy.


Thanks.

If you need backup DVDs for your system, OfficeMax has a 25-pack of 4X DVD+R or DVD-R for just $8 (32 cents each).

It has been 3-4 weeks, I was wondering when you will start to send out the Worlds DVDs?
Thank You

Thank You. :D

diTTo

Any news on the arrival :D

Yeah, I need something else to do for a couple hours.

Thanks, looking forward to seeing some worlds footage.

anyone know where to get a 2002 worlds video??

Disc TV????

kewl , are they still operating, and do you have contact info??

Thanks a lot guys, can't wait to see them. :D

Doubt it, Leo posts on here every now and then.

DVDs were delivered by duplication house to the PDGA Fulfillment House a few days ago. Orders received are now being fulfilled.



That means there should be some on Ebay soon! :p

TT taking over the state,
soon to be Worldwide when the Worlds video comes out.



TRIM

That means there should be some on Ebay soon! :p

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TT is geTTing a royalty fee from Ebay for all DVD's sold.

Got my 04' Worlds DVD today, Can't wait to get home and watch it... :D:D

PT Woods
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TRIM IS HERE!!!!!

Has it arrived at The TTrim TTowers yet?

My fav. part of the video was my "unity" shout. Clear as day

Were there any shots of the PIMP in there???

PimpS, there's more than one of us.
And yes TTrim is all over the video

Did my 60ft putt make it in there? That was my one great shot at BC when Blair happened to be right there.

You mean "uniTTy"

PimpS, there's more than one of us.
And yes TTrim is all over the video



Well was CBDiscPimp in the Worlds Video???

PimpS, there's more than one of us.
And yes TTrim is all over the video



Well was CBDiscPimp in the Worlds Video???


If I ever get mine, I'll let you know :(

If you were in the final 9, then yes, you were in the video...otherwise you might be seen as a spectator in the background somewhere.

Wow! I just watched the three hour Worlds DVD and relived the memories! What a super great DVD!! Blair Paulsen and the Alacrity Crew did a great job filming, and John Houck and Brian Sullivan have such fun, lively commentary! And the background music was happening!

The second hour and an half DVD consists entirely of coverage of the Open Pro and Open Women division and the awards ceremony. Everyone from all the divisions who who received a singles trophy is shown with theirs. There are lots of hugs and handshaking!!! Those Open Men and Women sure can throw! It�s cool how their drives are analyzed and we get to see them in slow motion.

Then the first hour and a half DVD has coverage of the final nines of ALL the rest of the divisions, many interviews with players, scenes shot of the Good Times Party, Field Events, Doubles, Players Meeting, Flymart, the Iowa Feeds the World(s) event, and PDGA Awards Banquet. Then there are lots of still photo shots of many, many players drives and putts that are interspersed throughout the entire DVD.

The coolest thing of the video that I liked was watching ALL the different divisions play, especially all the Junior and Senior divisions. They were amazing and inspiring! Watching everyone having so much fun playing with such skill just proves again that disc golf is a lifetime sport to be enjoyed by everyone.

Another thing I liked was our Iowa corn fields and how they were looking really good and tall! And there were scenes from our beloved Iowa State Fair � even the famous butter cow.

John Duesler and the Allentown crew and Dan and Sue Ginnelly and the Arizona crew are working really hard to make 2005 PDGA Worlds the best ever too. If you missed 2004 Worlds, I encourage you to go in 2005 and experience the PDGA Championships and the camaraderie at these great venues.

We had a dream to share our courses with the disc golf family. We are so glad we worked hard on our bid submission to the PDGA BOD to host the event and were awarded it, so we could share our courses and community with everyone who came! Thanks again to everyone for coming to Iowa! See you on the links!

So us juniors actually made the Vid? Cool I can't wait to get mine. :D:D

When am I gonna get my Worlds DVD? can anybody tell me the answer to this? Please :) :D ;)

Why Schweb? I don't think I even saw you in it?! ;)

When am I gonna get my Worlds DVD? can anybody tell me the answer to this? Please :) :D ;)


Probably the day before I get mine! Lucky, let me know when you get yours, mine will probably come soon after :)

2004 Worlds: The greatest week of my life
now I need the dvd so I can remember

Where could I purchase one of these?

Perhaps the Pro Shop link at the top of this page...

Duh...

There are definately differences in the quality of DVDs you buy.

Most of us in the biz avoid memorex. Sorry.

That said. most DVDs, like most american products (excluding disc golf) are not very well made. They say CDs & DVD are less prone to scratch and failure than other media, but it's simply not true.

Unfortunately, tape is even less rleiable in the long run, so you're kind of stuck with what we've got ....DVDs.

I would recomend that the producer not use the cheepest DVDs they can find, but also is not feel responsible for how well they last, provided they work.

The end user on the other hand if possible should try to dupilcate such media (for their own use) if it's important at all, before they even use it, and take extra care as DVDs & CDs are fragile things.

watched the DVD last night, when are the cameras going to learn how to follow schwebe's thumbers?
All in all I thought the video was well done, I guess my hesitance comes from the fact that nothing could recreate that week, so if you weren't there its great to see the holes and all the footage. I do have one question though. why, if they made it a two dvd set, did they leave out so much stuff. I know they didn't fill up all 10 or so gigs they had to work with.
Would have been nice to see kalstrom bombing discs in the distance( it was perfect left to right tail wind) or some mini golf. nice work to those involved, can't wait for the usdgc now.

Too bad there won't be an 04 National Tour DVD. :(
I enjoyed watching the 03 NT DVD.

PT Woods
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can't wait for the usdgc now.



yeah I heard the commentary in USDGC is much better than then in the worlds video

can't wait for the usdgc now.



yeah I heard the commentary in USDGC is much better than then in the worlds video


If I EVER get my World's DVD, I'll let you know, Rob.

I heard that one anouncer sucked. I think his name was Robert. :D:confused: :D

Did someone say UniTTy?

Does anyone have a general idea of how long it takes from ordering the DVDs until they are delivered? If a few of you who have them already could post how many days it took for you to get them that would be really cool.

i think it took about 4 days or so

Still waiting on mine, renewed my membership, month and half ago.

I received mine in less than a week after i ordered it, which was i think over three weeks ago.

You must be special. :D :) :D

Got Mine, YESterday. UNITTY

Sent my check 12/1/04, yes 2 MONTHS AGO! Still waiting :mad:

Sent my check 12/1/04, yes 2 MONTHS AGO! Still waiting :mad:

If you forget about it, it will come. That is what I did.

I had forgoTTen about it, then people start posting that they got theirs, now I want mine. :p

Find a happy place and wait for your video.

I had forgoTTen about it, then people start posting that they got theirs, now I want mine. :p



I just got mine on Monday. I mailed off my membership fee and DVD order on November 28. My package was postmarked January 25, 2005. Once yours gets in the mail, it shouldn't take too long to get there. You'll like the DVD once you get it. :cool:

Has anyone from the Houston area received the DVD yet? :confused: :confused:

Got ours this week.

Is the DVD better than last year? I did not care for lasts years as much as years past. Can any one who has seen the DVD comment?

Yes beTTer than last year.

I just hope my chump putt from the finals was on there. Wait now that I think of it I had 10 chump putts. :D:D

scooter ur putt was on there, one of the few criticisms i have is that the finals show the divisions all playing the same holes at dmacc and the field events coverage is weak, i wanted to see sandstrom crush

I'm just glad they didn't include the final 9 in the ratings. Actually they should just take all my rounds from worlds out of my rating. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks Brian. You would not happen to be biased due to someone resembling yourself involvement in the final four? :o

Is the DVD better than last year? I did not care for lasts years as much as years past. Can any one who has seen the DVD comment?

Ordered it on Wednesday and delivered on Saturday. :eek: That's fast for snail mail.

From what I've seen it's a little better quality than 2003. Sound and camera shots are better.

Thanks for the review.

I just watched the 2004 PDGA Disc Golf World Championships DVD from Des Moines over the weekend.

In general, I was quite pleased. The production is of top notch quality and the coverage is exhaustive. I have a recommendation and suggestion for future Worlds videos however.

While the DMACC temp course was a great venue for showcasing the final nine of each division, the coverage eventually grew quite repetitive. While these holes were quite picturesque (I especially liked the par four that required a drive over the water, and then a 90 degree turn right. I also liked the signature hole, the finishing par four along the water) it grew tedious watching every division play the same holes over and over again. While I'm not suggesting that we eliminate this coverage, I'd like to also see footage of golfers playing the other courses. There were eleven courses played during this event, and there are only sporadic shots of these other courses! Most of the competitors in Worlds 2004 raved over the quality of these courses; some claimed they were the best they've ever played. And yet, all I really got a feel for was DMACC, one temp course with mostly wide open holes and water hazards, which I understand was not typical of the other courses contested during the week. In short, I'm suggesting more footage from the different courses and the most scenic holes shot during the week's play but not necessarily less coverage of the finals, because I know that is important to many.

My $.02 -Jeff

Uh, the video was not good at all.

I am a comm major and have worked with many videos....

not only are thier jump cuts, but there is also a flash frame.

But since you know so much about it, I know I don't have to go through and describe what those terms mean or where they are in the video

not only are thier jump cuts, but there is also a flash frame.

But since you know so much about it, I know I don't have to go through and describe what those terms mean or where they are in the video



Where do I state anywhere in my above text that I "know so much about it?" Where do I state anywhere that I am an expert on video production? How in the world do you make these assumptions?

That's a very strange interpretation of what I wrote, MTL. All I was trying to say was that I liked the video but would like to see more of the courses and the best holes in next year's production.

Since you're the communications major and a video expert, why don't you enlighten us all and explain what jump cuts and flash frames are.

And in the future, remember what happens when you a-s-s-u-m-e. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

And obviously you assumed I was being serious....


Anyway, there are jump cuts and flash frames...

Jump Cut - editing techinque - when something magically "jumps" from one part of the screen to another or disappears / appears. Ex. - a scene is shown with a guy drinking a cup of coffee. He goes through his lines and nails the first part, but messes up the second part. He changes hands with his coffee, and re - reads the second part of the script. In editing, they take the first take and the second take - so when the video is shown, the coffee cup "jumps" from his right hand to his left hand without the viewer seeing him do it.

There is a jump cut in the am week summary.

Flash Frame - in editing, black video is layed under the video. Basically, something called time code must be inserted onto video so that it can be edited, this can be achieved by simply going to a black screen and recording it onto your tape, then editing your video over it.

So if the video is not put together properly, the black shows up. Ex - a scene goes from 00:00:00 to 00:10:00. The second scene should start directly at 00:10:01, but is put together incorrectly, and starts at 00:11:00. Thereefore the portion inbetween the two scenes is purely black video being shown. Since this is less than a second, the black appears to flash, hence the term flash frame.

A flash frame occurs right after Boobs throws a shot on 10 at Grandview in the am wrap up....it's very obivious if you are looking for it....

Thanks for the explanations. I'll look for those flaws in the video.

FYI, according to BDH's post, (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=337655&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) a different company (Media Active Inc.) will be handling this year's video.

Impressive !

The lack of pizazz in Worlds videos has to do with the premise for their production. The PDGA is a victim of its membership in the sense that if you show the Open Final 9, you have to show the Final 9s of every other division for fairness. So, the Worlds videos will never be much more than documentaries with not that much broad appeal beyond the attendees. So, I wouldn't hold out much hope for a new company to do much better if they're handcuffed by the same expectation to "show every division play the Final 9" tradition.

To get a more exciting video, a producer might have to finance it themselves and get permission to film it from the PDGA. Then, you might see a video with much more variety and coverage of the overall event. I can't see this happening because I'm not sure the economics are there for the producer. Likewise, the PDGA might not give permission in the first place since they don't make money on their documentary version. Sanctioning a competing version would just generate more red ink on the project. Not sure there's a solution unless members would openly agree that only the Final 9s of the Open Men & Women be shown so more coverage could be provided for happenings during the week. Do you see that happening?

I would think that there would be a demand for a traditional DVD with a half hour highlights section that showcased great shots or stories coming from the event. There should be room for both on one DVD. The latter would make for better promotional material in general than the former.

It needs a little color commentary geared toward those new to discgolf, or even be setup with separate audio tracks, one with uptempo music and little commentary, the other with detailed commentary and explanations of shot choices and strategies.

Disc golf video........an opinion.......

The Market Street video, has been the BEST I have ever seen! They had all holes, skins rounds, ladies, best shots (hundreds of them), 3 rounds of coverage keeping you updated on many groups, not just the final-four! I am not even coming close to including all that that production offered, it was outstanding. How can a B-Tier put out such a wonderful product, yet our Worlds coverage has always been lacking...IOWA????...what courses, weekly happenings...how can you actually miss covering a hole, or two, when all you are doing is covering 9 HOLES????? 2004 Worlds video leads a non-disc golfer to believe that ALL 800-900 players played those 9-holes over and over.

The National Tour video I thought was very well put together. I personally would love to see many more of these role out of disc golf video.

Do not get me wrong, I will purchase any disc golf videos...I LOVE them. We are not there yet with quality, or the perfect system, but I do believe the creators are headed the right direction, and I wish the best, and huge success for them all.

Good luck...Brandon

Again, I'm not suggesting that we eliminate the coverage of all divisions playing the final nine, I'd just like to also see footage of the other courses. All these videos need to go to the next level are some shots from the different courses; how about a section with the most scenic holes at the four courses and a section with the best shots captured on film that week, for example.

The kind of quality and video content people want can't be produced economically if you were actually paying the people fair market wages to do it. The market still isn't big enough. The PDGA loses money doing the Worlds videos the way they do them but it's seen as a member benefit and promotional piece. The Marshall Street DVD was produced with a large amount of volunteer videography, music and editing. Even though Steve might be getting some of the profits off of sales (?), I can't imagine it will come close to the time and effort he expended.