I'm having some troubles making a good anhyzer shot. The shot I really want to make would be ideal for #6 or #15 at Dolese here in OKC for anyone that is familar with the area, but for those who aren't I'll describe them.

Basically I need to put the disc into a slight anhyzer about 20ft over these trees, and then it needs to make an S and come back just a little. Now I'm a right handed thrower and I thought using a broken in XS would be a good disc to use (because it turns over so easily) but it either dives directly into the ground or gets the nose up and turns left too soon. I can't seem to get much power on this shot either when I actually get the disc to fly how I want. I can do a low to the ground sweeping anhyzer, but this pop-up n over jobby is bugging me.

Any just run of the mill tricks on these shots?

Thanks!

Try a thumber or a tommy?

Try a thumber or a tommy?



no because I can only thumb it so far (trust me I've tried on these holes) The most effective shot I've seen is a good anhyzer. Which I don't have. Thus the post.

What kinda of stable discs you carrying in the bag? You might try a Flash since I see you use that as your avatar. Others that might work for what your looking for are: Orc, Talon, Predator, Eagle, Teebird, Flick, Stingray or Breeze.

Whats the overall distance you need to achieve?

well it's 200 feet but it's a 90 degree dog leg that starts about 50 ft from the teebox. + you have to get up about 20-30 feet up over the trees.

and my flash works good for slight long anhyzers but I need to work on sharper one.

Sounds like a Breeze or a Stingray or maybe even a beat to crap old Aviar. The Breeze and the Stingray would be thrown in your normal anhy way and the Aviar would be thrown real real high with anhy.

I've seen guys do it with a omega super soft

you think a challenger would do it?

Cant hurt to try it! We have a hole like that here. I seen people forehand it as well. The safe route is to use a beat 'putter' and anhy high around the dog leg and it will float up the gut.

see thats the best way I can do it (forehand) but because it's such a tight turn, I usually can't get far enough up the dogleg as I like too when they have the pole in the "winter" position (alternate) . In the winter shot the shot is practially a horseshoe with the back part being all in the trees so to get as close to the trees on the 1st shot is vital.

For Long Placement: Throw a buzz on 6 and a stingray on 15. Although a lot of people throw a putter on 15. :cool:

Lagg, go to an open field and throw that beat XS flat and hard until you get use to the way it flies and you can adjust from there, that's what I throw on the holes you speak of, but with a slight anhyzer....works great for me..

Sounds like a broken in 170 First Run Z BUZZZ to me. Maybe even a BEAT Pro D challenger :D

The thing I tell people to do when asked this question is this:

Arch your back. For me, arching my back tilts the outside (left) edge of the disc up, creating the anhyzer angle. You don't have to adjust the throwing motion of your arm much, because your arched back has "aimed" the disc for you. You just execute your normal throw, keeping your back arched. This can also work well in learning rollers. Give it a try, and let us know what you find out.

I don't really get the hole. Can you describe it in a little more detail? Just curious. What makes the hole tough?

from the sound of it, the shots that dive into the ground have torque on them or not using an overstable enough disc and the shots that stall out are because of 2 reasons: 1) not enough power to hold the turn through the apex 2) not enough nose down

since you can do the low anhyzer, i'll assume you are struggling more with the ones that stall out. i'll also assume the shot you are looking for is say... high turnover shot that holds the turn for 80-90% of the flight and then fades back.

first thing is footwork. this is either an inside out hyzer shot or an outside in anhyzer shot. either way, if you are rhbh, your footwork should be closed stance (think baseball stance) starting back right and finishing front left of the tee.

secondly is deciding on disc/line. the shot you are describing can't be performed pure annie with a broken in x xs (it won't s back), however, it can be performed as an inside out (push slight left of center) hyzer flip (use footwork described above, and throw the disc a few degrees to the left of center, following through on an angle lower than the hyzer angle, e.g. start 20% hyzer and follow through on a flat plane).

for the annie shot, you'll need a more overstable disc. not sure what you usually throw but because you listed the XS i'll name discraft stuff that will do this: slightly seasoned cyclone, very broken in x pred, med broken in x x2, newish z flash. all of these should s back late on a torque free, high trajectory, high powered annie shot that stays nose down the whole flight. the annie shot is an outside in (pull) shot from a closed stance. you will need to pull this slightly to the right of center, and you use the footwork modification in order to set up "center" with your desired line (e.g. your shoulders "aimed" 30 degrees left of "forwards" in order to pull an anhyzer that starts 25 degrees left of forwards). you will be releasing slightly later than usual on these but it will commit the disc both anhyzer and nose down from the start. you will also (generally) need to be a little more upright on these shots (or even leaned back slightly) to generate a lot of power and this will also help with the "pull" tendency.

imo, it's useful to have both the high hyzer flip/turnover shot as well as the big annie as there are situations that will call for both. like, faced with the choice, i would rather throw the hyzer flip if there is any headwind and annie if there is a tailwind.

last recommendation is to drill until you are comfortable with both. you will probably start out getting shots that won't s back but won't be turning sharply when they hit the ground. either more hyzer/less anhyzer or throw it slightly higher on these. on a torque free throw, any shot should s back given enough height (unless the disc is soooooo beat that it has no gyroscopic pull left). i practice these shots a lot with putters as well to make sure my mechanics are solid and they won't mask any mistakes.

hopefully this could help a little. i haven't read the other replies thoroughly, so some of this may have been mentioned already.