I have a question for the "Ratings Guru's"

Say a Player has a rating of around 950 or so.
Then player plays a series of Sanctioned events and shoots and Average of around 75 points HIGHER than his rating. :eek:

BUT he is also NOT current with the PDGA.
Will these scores affect his rating at all, or will the fact that he is not current, make them obsolete :confused:

:eek:

I can't answer that question, but can you tell me if this is a real life scenario?

I would be surprised to hear about a 950 player consistently shooting 1025 golf for a long period of time but does not have an active PDGA membership.

Thats what i was going to say. He would be top 20 in the WORLD. He is just being a moron for not playing pro and making MONEY if this is truely the case :confused:

I can't answer that question, but can you tell me if this is a real life scenario?

I would be surprised to hear about a 950 player consistently shooting 1025 golf for a long period of time but does not have an active PDGA membership.



HA.........

I have 2 samples....look at the winners rated rounds...quite amazing /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<font color="blue"> Bay Series - Stafford Lake </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4607)

<font color="blue"> Bay Series - Napa </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4608)

I can't answer that question, but can you tell me if this is a real life scenario?

I would be surprised to hear about a 950 player consistently shooting 1025 golf for a long period of time but does not have an active PDGA membership.



HA.........

I have 2 samples....look at the winners rated rounds...quite amazing /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<font color="blue"> Bay Series - Stafford Lake </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4607)

<font color="blue"> Bay Series - Napa </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4608)





4 rounds rated at an Average of 1021

If hes playing Open then hes not a bagger. If hes not a member then no, the round ratings will not count toward his true rating.

If hes playing Open then hes not a bagger. If hes not a member then no, the round ratings will not count toward his true rating.



Just wait until he finds out he can play Adv with a rating below 955.. :p He needs to restock on Plastic :eek:

Id sure hate to be the one who draws him as a Low seed in the Match Play Championships........ /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif That rating will put him at the BOTTOM of the list so he would be playing one of the HIGHEST rated players in the field /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

Thats what i was going to say. He would be top 20 in the WORLD. He is just being a moron for not playing pro and making MONEY if this is truely the case :confused:



Never said he was an AM :D

It's not really a ratings question but a policy quastion. It's the tradeoff between helping TDs keep field sizes larger by allowing nonmembers or protecting members by making membership a requirement as proposed for 2006. Granted, he could join and his rating would take an update or two to get above 954 if he does play Advanced.

Looking at the Advanced divisions, Brad would have had just as much competition but win less based on how well your Advanced winners shot in those events.

Going to throw my ring in the hat here...being a most likely lifetime AM..boy I would love to go PRO, but the game doesn't reflect that...

BIG EVENTS (NT, A's and maybe big B's) should atleast require a signup membership. I have played alot of events in the last few year after being able to become a TEXAN..with way too many tournies to choose from. Many, many times, there are unrated and non-members playing way down on their home courses. I love the competition none the less, but if you already have the #'s after a few events...could a ranking even be given to non-PDGA members????

I have played way too long to become much more than MA1 (next year), but would love to see a stoppage (is that a word :D) to some of the "bagging"...

The work may or may not be way too time consuming for the BOD, but since Chuck, our newest post wh*re :) and informant for the masses, posted right before me and might be able to answer that question I would be interested to hear what you think.

Now I have to save this on my favorite threads :D

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We have the ratings for non renewed members but not players who have never been members. Getting your rating is becoming one of the more important member benefits so it's not likely those non member numbers will be published because then you need another layer of complication for TDs to determine what the rules would be for what non members can play in what divisions, do they have a rating or not, etc. The primary way to limit bagging from nonmembers might be to require them to play in Open - they pay the Pro entry fee if they want to try and cash or perhaps a $10 fee plus PDGA fees to play for trophies only. Once you join you could then play in an Am division appropriate to your skill level. But nonmembers 'get thrown to the wolves' until they join (not that it hurt Brad at all). That policy might boost both membership and field sizes in Open...

Perhaps you could track ratings for non-members, but instead of publishing their rating, only publish their lowest allowed division, based on their rating.

Who pays the cost of the tracking?

Perhaps you could track ratings for non-members, but instead of publishing their rating, only publish their lowest allowed division, based on their rating.



Non-members have no division 'rights' at events anyway, so the TD has the power to assign a division 'take it or leave it' for any non-member. I have heard of TDs who will only let non-members enter the Advanced division to protect dues paying Intermediate and Rec players.

I have heard of TDs who will only let non-members enter the Advanced division to protect dues paying Intermediate and Rec players.



I have "kicked" that same idea around for my events this year......though we dont have too many Rec players there is always that local Am who plays Int. to try and take the win.
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Brad Armstrong finished DFL at the Safari and he was bummed out bad. I beat him by 32 throws! After the tourney we had a little chat. We decided that "NO Fn Way" that was gonna happen again. His next tourney he took 2nd!
Two months later, the boy is on fire and I wouldn't want to play him head to head, no way! And although the Napa and Stafford tourneys were only one day events (where anomalies happen), Brad's big left arm and hot putter will be here to stay as long as he keeps a cool head.

If he did it once, he can do it again and his rating will soar to where it should be. He's definitely not a bagger, just a good golfer that is discovering his own latent talents. Way to go, Brad. Need a partner for the Novato Turkey Shoot?! :DYou could literally carry me on that course.

I think I like the current ratings system. Because in a ratings tournament I can play recreational. Even though my last few PDGA rounds have been in the low 910's my rating is 854! This is only because there are not many PDGA events in my area. How many rec players would want to play with an Advanced player?

BTW this was NOT sarcastic at all, nope, no way. My rating was ruined by 1 round in my first rated PDGA event. I had a bad round and it basically is knocking about 40 points of my rating. Something is wrong with this.