Say you're throwing through a HEAVILY wooded area (when the question is WHEN will I hit a tree, not WILL I hit a tree), do you whip out the cheap plastic cause you don't care if it gets broken in or do you use the hard stuff cause it can take the beating better?
cbdiscpimp
Oct 19 2004, 10:36 AM
You should throw what you know. If its a line that you need a DX disc in your bag to hit you throw that DX disc. If its a line only one of your Champ or Z plastic discs can most likely hit then throw that.
I throw all Z plastic and 1 D BUZZZ so i could have to say im prolly throwing the exspensive stuff.
greenbeard
Oct 19 2004, 10:45 AM
I'm liking the DX stuff more to be honest. It just flies better from my hand for what ever reason. The fact it turns over a bit almost every time makes it alot easier to aim and throw those 'go for it' shots. I picked up a classic roc 174g and a firebird 172g, both older plastic, and they work quite well.
circle_2
Oct 19 2004, 10:58 AM
'Candy' discs ricochet big time...which can be good or bad. For finesse shots I prefer DX.
It depends. If I have a disc I'd like to break in more, I'll throw that. If not I'll throw a candy disc.
Most of the wooded holes at the courses I normally play are lines that my roc follows almost naturally. I have 2 DX rocs, like the plastic a lot more, use the beat up one in the trees more than my newer one
I throw S or E Plastic. Always.
Chris Hysell
Oct 19 2004, 08:47 PM
I use the disc that the shot requires. Most of my discs are Z plastic.
I throw whatever the line requires normally, but if we are really talking about throwing THROUGH the woods, I tomahawk a Champ Teebird to get through, because even after numerous tree hits it flies the same. On top of that, it doesn't fly like a DX T, so I don't have much use for it in a normal sense.
mikeP
Oct 26 2004, 12:43 PM
This is a good topic because there are many considerations. My straightest disc all around is the Z-Buzzz, but this disc richochets worse than any I've ever seen. I think the best plastic in the woods is the blend of Champion plastic that most Sharks and Spiders are made of. This stuff absorbs shock well, meaning it doesn't skip or get huge energy transfer off trees, and it is remarkably durable. I have an opaque blue Champion Aviar made of this style plastic and it is my go to disc on tight wooded holes were wood contact is certain. DX is alright, but I find that it can get knocked or severly slowed by even the smallest of twigs, where premium plastic has better penetration.
atreau3
Oct 26 2004, 01:13 PM
In regards to the spider, are you talking the original CE plastic, or the newer champ plastic? I've found that in the woods my CE Spider would "jump" off trees and land far, far off course... For that reason, i benched the spider and have put the Z buzzz in its place. I found that the gummy CE plastc would shoot further than the Z plastic after a high velocity impact...
Erick
widiscgolf
Oct 26 2004, 01:48 PM
Well I'm in Wisconsin and we have plenty of course with woods, so I throw plastic discs (dx, ce, se, pro line)
pterodactyl
Oct 26 2004, 02:14 PM
Throw your best roller disc.
DweLLeR
Oct 26 2004, 02:25 PM
Throw what is comfortable. Discs are replacable. I find that backing off the power and making the 'window' is the way to go regardless of the plastic type. Depending on the distance to the tree(s) I generally throw right at them, if I cant hit a basket thats 150' out regularly, what makes me think Im gonna do the same thing to a tree at the same distance. :D
Znash
Oct 26 2004, 04:17 PM
Mainly pro or z plastic for my drives because the only dx driver I have is beast.
For my up shot its dx because I throw rocs.
So basically I throw the disc that suits the shot.
So basically I throw the disc that suits the shot.
That is very well said. Discs were not meant to sit in the safe haven of our bags and remain pristine. Discs were meant to run the gauntlent of the tree holes and we shouldn't have special discs to abuse and others we coddle. Figure out what shot you want to throw... and throw it. If you hit a tree... its DISC GOLF... trees are inevitable. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
bschweberger
Oct 26 2004, 10:22 PM
More choices are needed for such a question.
tokyo
Oct 26 2004, 10:39 PM
Has anyone tried throwing over the woods that seem like a good option.
girlie
Oct 27 2004, 09:56 AM
Has anyone tried throwing over the woods that seem like a good option.
LOL. Sure, I saw Tyler Horne from Ohio do just that at the 11th Annual West Virginia Open! :cool:
How bout hard and free. That sounds kinky too.
mikeP
Oct 31 2004, 12:54 AM
Number one, I don't get all this talk about CE spiders (I've heard many people talking about CE Spiders and how much better they were). Sure, the first runs were marked simply with the Champion star that made its appearance on the CE line, however these discs were made of a material far more comparable to modern Champion plastic than any true CE run.
Second, as far as energy transfer goes (which is of course the cause of major skips), the Champion plastic absorbs more energy, therefore skipping less. Z Buzzz plastic has greater energy transfer, thus skipping more. Velocity and angle of refraction play a big part too, so there is a good chance that you may have experienced in a limited number of trials more skip out of the spider as compared to the Z Buzzz, however I'm sure the Z plastic transfers more energy. To illustrate, try this: Take your Z Buzzz and simply toss it against the back of your sofa lightly, as if you were attempting a short putt. Now do the same with the Champion Spider. Notice that even at low speed the Z Buzzz comes right back at you at nearly the same velocity as when it left your hand. Notice how the spider bounces back in a much more dampened manner.
Anyway, as I mentioned before, the Z Buzzz is my favorite midrange, it just carries with it certain risks when tree contact is imminent.
vwkeepontruckin
Oct 31 2004, 04:33 AM
OR...throw S/D/DX like you know what you are doing, make the gap, and even if you don't, your disc sat right down. Course it may be damaged severly if its DX, but if its "S", its A-OK. You could be precausious and throw candy discs...but then you're just pissing your discs off b/c you have no faith in them and need the durability. And it is NEVER good to **** your discs off. :o