was just reading some pdga board meeting minutes that were maybe a year or so old and the question was brought up.

after asking myself why? i began to wonder what it would take to happen.

if you've never played in japan, netherlands, sweden, england germany or switzerland, why not? tournaments happen all year long now somewhere, what keeps most of you from leaving your sand boxes?

is it just an issue of money? you don't have enough (even though you've probably not spent any time researching trip costs etc?) or is it that there isn't enough cash available at the foreign tourney ?

i'm pretty sure it can't be quality of courses as there is some great disc golfing to be found in all of the countries mentioned above, well except for netherlands maybe with mostly objects but made up for by atmosphere i garontee fo sho mhhhmmm.

is it a lack of information about the tournaments?
is it necessary to have several events linked together like the NT so that you can hit back to backs on the same trip and feel like you got more for your money?

i guess i'm just curious about the if you build it they will come spirit in regards to DG. if i were, hypothetically speaking of course, to spare no expense and create a DG resort vacation destination in a tropical paradise, with ocean holes and jungle holes, rolling hills, palm trees, fer-de-lance and green green grass, constant 75-80 degree temps and enough day tripping activities to keep non DG'ers occupied, what else would it take to get you to show up?

I recently played in the Stockholm Open and had this conversation with a lot of people there. It seems a little unfair to them that it is the "Worlds" and that it doesn't travel elsewhere. They all said they love coming here and understand that the majority of players are here, but......it is the "Worlds". No reason we can't travel like they do. I know one person in particular was very upset about discussion she heard (I don't know anything about it) that they were considering or are going to hold them in the same place every time from now on. She said if she has to come here every time, she certainly doesn't want it to be on the same courses every time.

I believe the Swedes (and other European sites) were offered the opportunity to host the Worlds sometime in the next several years and they responded they weren't ready yet. I believe Japan might be looking at hosting the 2008 Pro Worlds. And, the rumor that all future Worlds will be at the new complex in Augusta when it's ready is false. Perhaps the Am & Pro Worlds will alternate there but that's still just an idea. The PDGA can only plan so far ahead for alternate locations when groups from other places step up offering to host.

Hi Chuckie! :DYea, I �m not sure, I don�t really know anything about it. I am in no way speaking for the Swedes and when I saw the thread, just thought I would comment. Other than our current Women�s World Champ the other people who I spoke with are just the average Joe�s and we were just bs�ing. But I am sure Birgitta will be happy to hear, or have heard by now, that it was just a rumor about it always being in the same place, and understandably so.

The rumor got started when people thought there was no way a county in Georgia was going to finance and build our new HQ complex without some strings attached such as always having our World Championships there. The wording in the final agreement says something to the effect of making efforts to bring events there, which of course the PDGA would do anyway, but no specific requirements.

thanks for the responses and the votes.

as much as i enjoyed playing golf in japan, my first thought is that a world championships held there would have a pretty low, quality player turnout. i'm sure they would match the number totals, but i don't think the players would come from the states yet.

not only is it a completely different culture, with a completely different language but it is relatively expensive to travel to, stay at and get around. actually, when i first went to japan it wasn't just because there was disc golf available there, i went because i was
quite certain i would be in a totally new environment and not rubbing elbows with a bunch of american college kids at every train station and museum.

the UK or sweden seems like a very logical choice due to perceived familiarity and common language/culture, camping
possibility/hostels for the budget minded etc.

i'm interested in pursuing and enabling something like this to happen, it would be helpful if more people would add their input as
to what they look for , expect and desire from something like this.

What will it take? It will take someone from outside the U.S. to step up and do it.

And that will certainly happen within the next several years, I'm sure.

i'm sure they would match the number totals, but i don't think the players would come from the states yet.




It might not draw as many Americans as a European venue but the American turnout of top players for the Japan Open has been pretty good because the payouts have been good. I would expect a $100,000 Pro purse when they do it which might be the first reaching that number (unless Allentown first pulls it off next year).

How about somewhere in the Caribbean? Bermuda? Amsterdam? :o:cool:

although it sounds like a good ideal,i think the turn out would be low.i mean lets face it other than the top players
worlds are mostly made up of poeple who want to play in the event just to say they did and to see how they compare to other players
not because they think they are going to go there and win.

2nd
who will be able to pay for something like that,it cost the average person around $1000 to $1500 just to go to worlds,let alone the week off from work ( maybe with out pay ? ) and although i had a great time when i went to worlds in 2000 i wouldn't do it again

It might not draw as many Americans as a European venue but the American turnout of top players for the Japan Open has been pretty good because the payouts have been good. I would expect a $100,000 Pro purse when they do it which might be the first reaching that number (unless Allentown first pulls it off next year).



If memory serves me, the cash purse at Worlds 2000 exceeded $100,000 counting the doubles money.

I would think that a Worlds in Europe would draw from the countries nearby just as the Worlds in the US draw from the states nearby. The top players will show up, plus a lot of locals.

Look at it this way too....Is there a area in Europe where you have a number of established courses that are close together? To my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, a lot of tournaments in Europe are played on temporary courses.
Also, is the support and organization in place to run a tourney of this magnitude? Are the people who can get things done able to work together and organize such an event, given that they may live in different countries.

The cost for American players should not be that much of a factor. Well, right now the Dollar is weak, but that will hopefully change in a few years again, but hotels are SOOOOO much cheaper over there (and you usually have breakfast included), and you can always get a cheap flight if you look around.

I was just going to mention the number of courses. They are very spread out and not within driving distance, at least not in Sweden and Norway. Don't know about any other countries. It is extremely expensive to travel in Norway and I don't think, because of that, that Norway could even be considered. Sweden wasn't too bad. A little more expensive than the U.S., but not too bad.