....I noticed this guy throwing very accurate 425' drives and since he throws like I do (pull across the chest) and I am currently working on my driving I approached him (after he threw of course) and asked him for a little advice. He didn't even stop (he was walking backwards) and said, "just play a lot more, you'll get better eventually." WTF, thanks Captain Obvious. What I was hoping for would be a maybe if he would look at my grip and drive once just to see if there was any glaring problems. Instead, I get a smart*** answer. I suppose it would be different if he was in a hurry but since he was just playing two holes over and over again (he was praticing his driving) you would think that he might be able to lend a few minutes to someone who used to be in his shoes. What happened to the commradery of this sport? Also, people who don't wait for you to finisish your hole make me really angtry (and I see it more often than when I started playing last year). End rant I guess.

The guy sounds pretty arrogant. My advice is to get better and kick his [*****]. :D

You gotta remember though that alot of good players have no idea how to teach others and probably have little conscious understanding of their technique.

Your right in saying that many players aren't concious of their technique (it's like that in many sports) but it's not an excuse for being an ***. I would be willing to help anyone who asked (barring I wasn't in a hurry or shot).

You are over doing it. You should not make rude comments about this person because they did not want to help you. Sure it would have been a nice and gentlemen like thing to do, but it is not the worlds responsibilty to help you out. You have no idea what this person was trying to do or why he did not want to hold a training session with a newbie. Just because you ask someone for something, does not mean they owe it to you just because you play the same sport. I don't mean to be harsh, but I am really getting tired of the attitude that people owe you something just because you ask or it would be a nice thing to do.

Wow, that was harsh!

Come to San Diego, we'll be happy to help anyone with their form, all you gotta do is buy us drinks :)

very true nixs
and James too is right..."did I just say you were right" :o
So people don't know how to teach.
Any more it is very hard for me to go and play a casual round at a park.
I start out with me and a friend and by the 6th hole, we are a card of 5 and everyone (politly) ask for pointers in some kind of way.
Look at the world of ball golf ...you don't go up and ask the course pro for pointers for free and expect him to give you the attention you expect.
I tutor many players and newbies and enjoy doing it, but I also enjoy playing the game.So if someone is willing to take the time to point out things about your game without any contract to do so. It should be appricated more than just a thank you. As pros we should give back and many do. But it is not expected!

....I noticed this guy throwing very accurate 425' drives and since he throws like I do (pull across the chest) and I am currently working on my driving I approached him (after he threw of course) and asked him for a little advice. He didn't even stop (he was walking backwards) and said, "just play a lot more, you'll get better eventually." WTF, thanks Captain Obvious. What I was hoping for would be a maybe if he would look at my grip and drive once just to see if there was any glaring problems. Instead, I get a smart*** answer. I suppose it would be different if he was in a hurry but since he was just playing two holes over and over again (he was praticing his driving) you would think that he might be able to lend a few minutes to someone who used to be in his shoes. What happened to the commradery of this sport? Also, people who don't wait for you to finisish your hole make me really angtry (and I see it more often than when I started playing last year). End rant I guess.



Opps.....................sounds a bit off. No worries though.
Maybe this guy was training for a major tournament or just re-training himself.
Sounds like he was playing alone and didn't really want any outside distractions. It happens. Some people are un-approachable even. Don't sweat it. Sorry I was not there to offer you some help or advice on your shots. I have been accused of trying to help people with their shots , only to have them come back to me and blame me for there mistakes. This also happens. It's a tough world out there sometimes. Darn if you do , Darn if you don't.

As far as asking for advice , this sometimes works.
Next time, ask this guy if you could play through just after he drives. Have him notice your shot , before asking him anything. Also ask him as both of you finish that hole if you could play another hole with him/her if possible. Complement him/her on their shot , then take your turn throwing.
This is an easier approach sometimes when someone does not want to be asked. I have come across similar situations as you have described. I try not to take it personal. Most just want to get better. Some players are so intense about their training , it's just better to watch them from a distance. Some play for more than just fun. Some just play only for fun. Patience though my friend. Try to understand yourself and your abilities. ( did i just say that ) :eek:
Hang in there and practice as much as you can. Work on accuracy , techinique and distance. That's advice I need for myself as well.

Oh.....................practice putting until your sick of it.
This will help you when you really don't feel like putting..........................know what I mean... :D :cool::D

It should be appricated more than just a thank you.



Hence the drinks :D

Kelly, if your needing advise...don't bother the Texans :D...most people I know would be honored that you would ask for their advise...don't sweat the small stuff...you'll teach yourself...you'll eventually become your own teacher...

just keep playing and practicing...

At my local course alot of people are like wow are you a PRO can you help me out. Sometimes im in the mood to help and sometimes im not. It all depends on what im trying to accomplish at that point in time. Ive help ALOT of newbies with thier form and how to play but there are also times when i have been trying to fix something in MY OWN game and i havent had time to mess with a newbie. Maybe he was focused on fixing something he was having trouble with and didnt want to break his focus and try to help you out. Sure its great when people that are better then you take time to help you get better but they dont HAVE to do it. When I first started playing NO ONE took the time to tell me how to throw or show me what i was doing wrong. I asked some questions and just basically WATCHED what other people were doing. Steve Brinster and Brian Schweb were the first guys to REALLY watch me throw and give me some pointers and that was last year at MACE MAN doubles at Cass after they got done giving a clinic they stuck around and helped people with whatever they wanted help one. They must have stuck around for a couple hours or more without anything in return. Those are 2 of the coolest SUPER PROS i know, they are always willing to help you out if they have time and so are alot of the local pros in my area. You just have to find the ones that are willing to help you. I have even PAID one of my friends thats a pro to play around with me and help me out. Some pros are willing to share thier secrets with you and some arent. No one owes you anything but if you come out to Cass Benton id be happy to help you out.

Ah well, I suppose ou guys are right that he doesn't "owe" me anything. I somtimes confuse how people should act with how I would act. That being said, did I forget to mention that he lost a disc and I found it for him. It's not as if I hadn't done anything for him.

Actually I'm not so much ****** that the guy turned me down, as I am that he gave me such a smart [*****] answer. "Go play a lot more". Gee really?

EDIT: hmm I was trying to respond to Nix but I didn't get a quote in there. Oh well.

Ah well, I suppose ou guys are right that he doesn't "owe" me anything. I somtimes confuse how people should act with how I would act. That being said, did I forget to mention that he lost a disc and I found it for him. It's not as if I hadn't done anything for him.


You can't do something for someone and then hold it over their head...That's what Mom's are for :DYou can however find another person who is more experienced than you and is more open to helping you...But he might have said it right, even though it was a smart ***** thing to say, you do have to play a whole lot more to get better /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

just watch and learn.thats what I did.Noone wanted to help me other then to tell me to throw shots I couldnt at that time throw.{"just throw a 340ft spike hyser over that bush",when I didnt know what a hyser was.}But,I learned and actually had a chance to learn faster by just talking myself through thier shots.Why throw the hyser?Why not throw a low Anny around that bush instead? It helped me to understand a little faster I think.

nix
man are you texans always this harse :D

pimp
so your calling yourself a PRO now :eek: :D:D

kelly
it's all about the approach and how you come across to someone when your asking them for help think about that next time you ask someone for adivse

pimp
so your calling yourself a PRO now



No im not im saying people walk up to me and say " Wow your Fin AWESOME are you a PRO" and i say no im not that good yet maybe in a couple years :D

Come to San Diego, we'll be happy to help anyone with their form, all you gotta do is buy us drinks :)



Yea, At least in San Diego you'll have LOTS of time to discuss technique while WAITING to play the next hole :eek: :D

Come to Live Oak, Texas. These guys have helped me a lot and in some cases I did not even have to ask. They saw things and offered advice. I try to do the same thing even though I am not a great player. If I see a newbie and I feel I can help, I will offer advice and it is up to them if they want to take it. I feel every player should be the same way unless they are afraid of getting beat. I would be willing to pay for training, but I can't see someone expecting something for a little advice or suggestions. Attitudes goes a long way to help advance or deter the sport. What is your attitude?

Jim, I'll trade you ten feet of drive for eight feet of short game.

Jack, YOU should know that answer by now!

Ill put up 50 Ft of Distance for 20 feet of short game :D

Jack, YOU should know that answer by now!



true dat nix :D

Come to San Diego, we'll be happy to help anyone with their form, all you gotta do is buy us drinks :)



Yea, At least in San Diego you'll have LOTS of time to discuss technique while WAITING to play the next hole :eek: :D



You gotta find something to pass the time :)

Some days you just want to yell. There is never an excuse for not helping or for being rude. It is always an honor to help a fellow disc golfer.

Every day I go out and play on courses that were put in the ground by guys/gals who went before me. I get the benefit of their hard work. Every day I get to play on courses that are maintained and modified by people in the local club. Every year I play in tournaments sponsored by the local club and run by local TDs who make little if any money. What right have I not to contribute if asked? This guy was a jerk. His game and the very places he plays are dependent on contributions made by so many others and now he doesn't want to repay the community?

Please don't give me this bad teacher garbage either. How hard is it to say, you know I just don't know. I kind of feel my way through what I'm doing? Even that is B.S. No player that throws 425 feet is clueless about grip, and throwing technique. To get there you have to tweek and adjust no matter how clueless you are. Even if at the level of saying you know I don't know but why don't you stand here and I will rip a few and you can watch, this guy could have done something.

So Nix, I disagree with you. If you don't want to pay back, well stop using the courses in your area that were advocated by disc golf pioneers. After all, why should you share in their generosity?

At my local course alot of people are like wow are you a PRO can you help me out.

Man, I'm 6-2 against Mills head-to-head this year and I never get that!

The best disc golf advice I ever got was from Mike Raley blowing me off that way. I wish I had taken the advice at the time instead of realizing its value eight years later. Oh well...

So Nix, I disagree with you. If you don't want to pay back, well stop using the courses in your area that were advocated by disc golf pioneers. After all, why should you share in their generosity?



Not the first, and won't be the last time, Lyle. Based on your argument and assumptions, I'm glad you do. You obviously have little understanding of what I said. My statements were directed at Kelly for calling this person names and making rude comments about him because he did not want to help Kelly for whatever reason. I think that is a bit presumptuous and frankly uncalled for. I did state that if he had helped, it would have been nice. However, it is not rude of him because he did not want to. If I don't ever want to teach a new disc golfer anything, I still have every right to play any public course anywhere. For you to tell me I should not, is a slap in the face of disc golf. There are many, many avenues to help this sport, or "pay back" as you call it, and it is not your place to designate who should help in what way. It really makes you look pompous, because you have no idea what I have done or have not done to "pay back" disc golf.

Come to San Diego, we'll be happy to help anyone with their form, all you gotta do is buy us drinks :)



Yea, At least in San Diego you'll have LOTS of time to discuss technique while WAITING to play the next hole :eek: :D



You gotta find something to pass the time :)



You could always play Bayside ! ! ! ! :eek: Yea !!!!!!

You could always play Bayside ! ! ! ! :eek: Yea !!!!!!



Is that course in the directory?

some of the best advice I received was when I was insulted... ie: you will never be able to do that with your form.... and he walks away and goes back to Olkahoma (some guy with a long pony tail selling disc in the parking lot). I was so ****** at this guy, I made it my passion to figure out what he was tlaking about. Now everytime I am at that same course, I will try the huge hyzer forementioned. and there was this time local Mr. Hague and I were talking, and I was like I can throw far for just starting out and... yada yada. He then tells me in his oh so gracefullnes "never.. you don't know the x-step" and he too walked away after his remark. I wouldn't dare ask him what he was talking about, he made me feel like such a tool. So the next day I asked someone real ashamed like... " psst. what is an x'step" thankfully I got a nice answer and demonstration from Clint Hillgiest (sp?)

thanks again Clint, Joe and the Okie..

Hi Kelly,

Where are you from Kelly? What PDGA Players do you know?

Not asking because one region is better than another, though we all know that the MADC is the best, just that I might be able to head you in the direction of some folks worth talking to or just playing with.

Regards,
Nick

I actually play in the Quad Cites (Iowa/Illinois). I haven't go into contact with the local club (QC disc gold assoc.). I plan on trying to get together with them next spring. Also, I played 36 rounds today (taking Mr. Nice Guy's advice :D) and I actually saw him again. I didn't say anything though. He gives me an incentive to get better...so I can kick his [*****] in the next tournament I see him in. BTW to clarify for nix, I wasn't complaining so much about the fact that he didn't want to help me, as I was that he gave me a rude answer. It's like holding the door for someone and them not saying thank you. He didn't have to help me; he didn't need to act like a smart [*****] either.

The only PDGA players I know are my friend Steve and my dad, Ken Klimo (jk :D) . Yeah, I know one PDGA player right now.

You could always play Bayside ! ! ! ! :eek: Yea !!!!!!



Is that course in the directory?


It depends on which directory you have /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Well, I can't argue that I don't know what you have contributed to the sport NIX, excellent point. Let me apologise for making it sound as if you might not have. One thing though, your posts made me think carefully about what bothered me and you're right, I should not have written that the guy should have helped out.

Let me take a different approach to try and make the point I should have made. Lets put it all together. First the original post:


....I noticed this guy throwing very accurate 425' drives and since he throws like I do (pull across the chest) and I am currently working on my driving I approached him (after he threw of course) and asked him for a little advice. He didn't even stop (he was walking backwards) and said, "just play a lot more, you'll get better eventually." WTF, thanks Captain Obvious. What I was hoping for would be a maybe if he would look at my grip and drive once just to see if there was any glaring problems. Instead, I get a smart*** answer. I suppose it would be different if he was in a hurry but since he was just playing two holes over and over again (he was praticing his driving) you would think that he might be able to lend a few minutes to someone who used to be in his shoes. What happened to the commradery of this sport? Also, people who don't wait for you to finisish your hole make me really angtry (and I see it more often than when I started playing last year). End rant I guess.




The guy only really said two things about the player:

1) He called him Captain Obvious because he gave him some obvious advice. If I asked someone for something and they said some trite and obvious, I might call them Captain Obvious too.

2) He said the guy was rude for giving him a flip answer and walking away while he did it. If I ask someone a question and they give me a flip answer while walking away, I might think they are rude also.

Your reply, very nicely turned the tables on the original poster:


You are over doing it. You should not make rude comments about this person because they did not want to help you. Sure it would have been a nice and gentlemen like thing to do, but it is not the worlds responsibilty to help you out. You have no idea what this person was trying to do or why he did not want to hold a training session with a newbie. Just because you ask someone for something, does not mean they owe it to you just because you play the same sport. I don't mean to be harsh, but I am really getting tired of the attitude that people owe you something just because you ask or it would be a nice thing to do.



I might argue that you did the same thing to the poster, that you are accusing him of doing to the player he met. First, you assumed he over did it, for two comments on the guy neither of which is that bad and both of which might be highly accurate. You assumed that the poster was presumptuous and that he was rude in his assessment. If I understand your post correctly (see above) you've drawn these conclusions about the original poster because he assumed he was owed something by the player he met, which brings us to the second point. You stated that just because you ask someone for something, doesn't mean that they owe you something. On this I strongly disagree. I realize that our society is becoming less - polite - that it somehow cool to blow people off, but the notion that when someone asks you something that you don't owe them at least common courtesy, even if the answer is no, is something I will never agree with. This is one of the things that defines a civilized society and frankly, I'm sorry to see it go. On the other hand, I wasn't there and I am assuming again that the poster could detect rudeness when he saw it. I might be wrong on this.

I don't disagree with you that the player did not owe the poster lessons. I personally feel it is an honor to contribute but I can't attest to other's, including your own, feelings about this.

Let me be clear about one thing though. My comment that you should stop playing in public courses was meant to be... facetious. Not really to be taken seriously. I'm sorry that you did and just in case someone else did, let me offer my sincerest apologies to the disc golf community. I hate the thought that I might do or say anything that might slap the entire sport in the face... As for pomposity, well, sometimes it cuts both ways.





So Nix, I disagree with you. If you don't want to pay back, well stop using the courses in your area that were advocated by disc golf pioneers. After all, why should you share in their generosity?









Not the first, and won't be the last time, Lyle. Based on your argument and assumptions, I'm glad you do. You obviously have little understanding of what I said. My statements were directed at Kelly for calling this person names and making rude comments about him because he did not want to help Kelly for whatever reason. I think that is a bit presumptuous and frankly uncalled for. I did state that if he had helped, it would have been nice. However, it is not rude of him because he did not want to. If I don't ever want to teach a new disc golfer anything, I still have every right to play any public course anywhere. For you to tell me I should not, is a slap in the face of disc golf. There are many, many avenues to help this sport, or "pay back" as you call it, and it is not your place to designate who should help in what way. It really makes you look pompous, because you have no idea what I have done or have not done to "pay back" disc golf.

Great merciful heavens!?! Can't you guys just say "I'm sorry."

It's not like misunderstandings aren't the norm on a mess bored like this one...

Sounds like they go on other places too...

Even snippy people are probably alright once you sit down with them. Kelly, don't get worked up about this or you are just setting yourself up for unnecessary expendature of mental and emotional energy. Let it go, and tell the guy that you though his answer was assinine the next time you see him. If he laughs and says you are probably right and apologies then cool! You've got a new friend, one that will probably now show you how to throw 400 foot plus shots; if not you will know not to waste another moments time on the dude.

2 cents,
Nick

I will help you or any other golfer if they ask :D

how do you get such distance with a metal mini? /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

You could always play Bayside ! ! ! ! :eek: Yea !!!!!!



Is that course in the directory?


It depends on which directory you have /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



I need another course. :)

To quote the great communicator... "There you go again." Nick, where do you get off being logical and telling people to be polite? :D






Great merciful heavens!?! Can't you guys just say "I'm sorry."

It's not like misunderstandings aren't the norm on a mess bored like this one...

Sounds like they go on other places too...

Even snippy people are probably alright once you sit down with them. Kelly, don't get worked up about this or you are just setting yourself up for unnecessary expendature of mental and emotional energy. Let it go, and tell the guy that you though his answer was assinine the next time you see him. If he laughs and says you are probably right and apologies then cool! You've got a new friend, one that will probably now show you how to throw 400 foot plus shots; if not you will know not to waste another moments time on the dude.

2 cents,
Nick

it is all in the grip. once you have the grip figured out I can show you the snap needed to getter flyin. I will show you next week in Houston. :D

This I gotta see, you givin' lessons? :D

Great merciful heavens!?! Can't you guys just say "I'm sorry."

It's not like misunderstandings aren't the norm on a mess bored like this one...

Sounds like they go on other places too...

Even snippy people are probably alright once you sit down with them. Kelly, don't get worked up about this or you are just setting yourself up for unnecessary expendature of mental and emotional energy. Let it go, and tell the guy that you though his answer was assinine the next time you see him. If he laughs and says you are probably right and apologies then cool! You've got a new friend, one that will probably now show you how to throw 400 foot plus shots; if not you will know not to waste another moments time on the dude.

2 cents,
Nick



Nick...Don't reply with crackhead answers just to increase your post count...I'm sure many, many, many, many, many, others agree. GO PLAY ON THE RULES THREAD KIGHT BOY :o

Surprisingly well said, Lyle! ( :D)

I do see your point. We only disagree really on one issue. And that is okay.

I apologize for calling you pompous. Its hard to call someone that without being it your self :p.

Now don't go being mature on me, I was just getting used to the pompous title. My wife likes it, much better than lazy slob. :D

I work with a guy, loud obnoxious, very opinionated. We get along really well, birds of a feather...

BTW Nix, come out to TS next weekend. Your 920 rating will mop up on my 830 rating, much more satisfying than arguing manners on the board. :D

alright, looking forward to seeing the round rock crew and everyone else who will be asking "why aren't you playing?"

Wish I could, I have never played it before- But that is the weekend of our 5th aniversary...just can't do it.

Here's kind of an update for anyone interested. So I've played at least 18 holes everyday this week and seen the same guy everyday. He won't make eye contact with me or say hi (even if I'm waiting to tee off behind him). Today he was playing with four other guys and I was playing by myself behind them. They didn't say anything to me for four holes (I was waiting for them to offer me to play through) so I had to ask myself (they let me play through). It's too bad the olive branch couldn't have been extended and I guess I'll just avoid/ignore him for now.-

I would give you this advice: Don't worry if he's being cordial or not; If he is still an [*****]hole when you are good enough to compete with him, remember all the ***** he did or did not do and use it as fuel to crush him...That's what I do every tourney :cool:

why don't you introduce yourself and ask him he would like to play a round with you or say something like "hey do you mind if i throw a around with you" alls he can say is no and if he does ,don't take it personal.some people are just that way.

At least they let you play thru

Ok, I'm from the QC. And I want to know who this "jerk" is, because there are only a handful of people here who can throw 400, let alone accurately at 425 (me being one of those). could you describe this person for me? I'm curious to see if it's me you are talking about.

Guilty conscience much? Oh, and one more thing... you can throw 425 accurately and your rating is 918? Either you cant putt, or you're streching the truth a bit...

THE PLOT THICKINS :D

Guilty conscience much? Oh, and one more thing... you can throw 425 accurately and your rating is 918? Either you cant putt, or you're streching the truth a bit...




Thats what i was about to say. Sounds a little fishy to me :confused:

do you turn your nose up at people that asks for advise...if so then it might be you......be nice ;)

Maybe he is driving 425' accurately on every hole and all the holes are 300' and less. That would run up your score in a hurry! :eek:

Some days you just want to yell. There is never an excuse for not helping or for being rude. It is always an honor to help a fellow disc golfer.

Lyle, shoot me a PM next time you're in the Research Triangle (NC) for a PDGA tournament. I need some help with my upshots and putting. Unfortunately, I'll be busy with registration and/or scoring before and between rounds, but I'm sure you won't mind helping me during the actual tournament rounds. :D

Guilty conscience much? Oh, and one more thing... you can throw 425 accurately and your rating is 918? Either you cant putt, or you're streching the truth a bit...



...can't putt, i am the reigning World Am Distance Champ..so there's no stretching of the truth here

do you turn your nose up at people that asks for advise...if so then it might be you......be nice ;)



and no, I don't turn my nose up to anyone who asks for help. But there is a difference, to me anyways, between someone asking, "How do YOU throw that far?" and "Can you show me how to throw like that?" or something along those lines. But I have given the answer, "practice", quite a few times. Not meaning to be a dick, but I answered their question.

i am the reigning World Am Distance Champ..so there's no stretching of the truth here



Distance at Worlds has NOTHING to do with accuracy. I am 5th in distance in the WORLD and i threw this year so i know it has nothing to do with accuracy and you claimed and and i quote.
425 accurately

which means you can park all open holes 425 ft and under. If your rated 918 and you can park all holes 425 and under you must not even be able to make anything outside 10 feet. I would have to say you can throw 425 but NOT accurately since distance has NOTHING to do with accuracy.

I will agree that distance has nothing to do with accuracy, and I can park a 425 open hole. And so what if i miss 10 footers.

then you might get a 3..

Mike, come check out at least one leg of the Illinois Open Series next year. With your distance you should enjoy Streamwood or Fairfield. Not certain what courses we will be using yet because there are new courses in development and opportunities to use courses not available in 2004. Watch www.discontinuum.org/forums (http://www.discontinuum.org/forums) for details.

Looks like you need to hit the putting circle for some serious PRACTICE so you can tear it up next year. :o

Looks like you need to hit the putting circle for some serious PRACTICE so you can tear it up next year. :o



Everyone needs PRACTICE in and out of the circle...Some even need to PRACTICE their grammar...Ahem, cbdiscpimp, fix your signature :)

Hey i may not be able to spell but i can throw 500 400+ with accuracy and i can make 10 foot putts :o

Hey i may not be able to spell but i can throw 500 400+ with accuracy and i can make 10 foot putts :o



Cool /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

On the other hand i dont have a 426 foot ACE. Nice work on that. :eek:

Thanks! One in a million throw :cool:

I guess Dave is the only one who can say, fer sure, that he can drive 426 feet accurately. :)

... to Matchu ... whoever that "clown" was who was such a jerk ; I'm sure we deported him already to "southern Egypt" or "lower Mesatopia" or somewhere else ... if his license plate said "Oklahoma" , he stole the car ... if he claimed to be an "Okie" , it was wishful-thinking on his part ...
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at any rate , nothing but a transient jerk ; and not anyone to measure the true "Oklahoma sportsmanship" by ...
stop any golfer in our fine state , and they'll offer up effective advice ...
.
... ask me personally , I'll go find a "good" player to "coach us both" ... :D

... to Matchu ... whoever that "clown" was who was such a jerk ; I'm sure we deported him already to "southern Egypt" or "lower Mesatopia" or somewhere else ... if his license plate said "Oklahoma" , he stole the car ... if he claimed to be an "Okie" , it was wishful-thinking on his part ...
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at any rate , nothing but a transient jerk ; and not anyone to measure the true "Oklahoma sportsmanship" by ...
stop any golfer in our fine state , and they'll offer up effective advice ...
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... ask me personally , I'll go find a "good" player to "coach us both" ... :D





THANKS

Hi Kelly,

I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience out on the course. Many courses have been installed recently in the Quad City area, and unfortunately, some of the newer players have not learned the finer points of disc golf etiquette.

As one of the founding members of the Quad City Disc Golf Club, let me assure you that you will be welcomed with open arms when you join the club. For more information, you may check out our website at www.geocities.com/qcdiscgolf (http://www.geocities.com/qcdiscgolf) . In the meantime, I will do whatever I can to put you in contact with Jeff Clark, Chad Eng, or Jeff Johnson. They are all accomplished golfers and great spokesmen for the sport.

I hope that you will continue to enjoy the great Quad City courses and that you will contact one of the club members. Since I graduated from Augustana College a few years ago, I only manage to make it out to the Quad Cities about once a month; however, I remain one of the best golfers in the club, and I would be happy to play a round with you and offer whatever advice you would like.

Cheers,
John

some of the best advice I received was when I was insulted... ie: you will never be able to do that with your form.... and he walks away and goes back to Olkahoma (some guy with a long pony tail selling disc in the parking lot). I was so ****** at this guy, I made it my passion to figure out what he was tlaking about. Now everytime I am at that same course, I will try the huge hyzer forementioned. and there was this time local Mr. Hague and I were talking, and I was like I can throw far for just starting out and... yada yada. He then tells me in his oh so gracefullnes "never.. you don't know the x-step" and he too walked away after his remark. I wouldn't dare ask him what he was talking about, he made me feel like such a tool. So the next day I asked someone real ashamed like... " psst. what is an x'step" thankfully I got a nice answer and demonstration from Clint Hillgiest (sp?)

thanks again Clint, Joe and the Okie..




WOW!!!...I don't know anybody else from around here with a pony tail except me , but I can assure you it was'nt me you are speaking of...I have been playing in Texas once or twice a year for the past 8 yrs and I have never attempted to sell any of my disc...so you know it was'nt me Mr. Forest...dontcha :cool:

I dig it when anybody asks me for advise... :p

... yes indeedy ... that's a no-brainer ... we can guaranteee it couldn't have been "Woody" ... and since "Doc" Morton has cut his off , it had to be an "Okie-wish-I-wuz" ... a definite imposter ! ... :D

I guess Dave is the only one who can say, fer sure, that he can drive 426 feet accurately. :)



I can say it too :D

I went out to play a round by myself on Saturday, and I ran into three guys who had just bought the Whamo three disc pack for 9.99 at the local drugstore. They had never played before, and because I like company, I offered to show them around the course. oN the first tee, I showed them the power grip and told them that driving a disc golf disc was much different than throwing a frizbee around. Partway through the round one of the guys decided I was right and started throwing with a power grip on his drive.

My point being that sometimes you lead a horse to water, but it has to make the decision to drink. I think that the original poster should relax and not worry as much about the people around him and focus on himself.
No reason to let your day get ruined just because you realize that there are a-holes in the world.

I have to live everyday with the knowledge that there are people who think bush and kerry are different, but I don't let that get me down.

PS Hyzerace, why is Iran endorsing bush then?