Oct 05 2004, 06:14 PM
I wonder if anyone can help me on this and if anyone has experienced this before. I was throwing a 171 Z-Wilcat RHBH on an uphill incline that goes over a small gradual valley. I drove the disc with some hyzer on it and realeased it aiming a little to the right. The disc went from Right then started fading to the left. To my surprise, the disc then seemed to stratighten out. It then turned over (turned right) and then finally faded left to it's resting spot underneath the pin. All in all, the throw was about 460'. Has this happened to anyone ever?????

Oct 05 2004, 07:15 PM
460ft uphill? how far can you throw on level ground?

can you putt? if not, learn- you should be on team innova.

i've heard of "double-s" curves, never seen one..

Oct 05 2004, 08:01 PM
That is a type of hyzer flip, there is a topic on the 2nd page about it, take a look. I think that would be a double helix, basically what is happening is that you throw a disc with extreme hyzer so that when it comes out of your hand it is immidiately 'fading' left, but you throw it with enough power that it flips and curves right before actually losing speed and fading left for good. That is some serious uphill distance , way to go.

Oct 05 2004, 09:58 PM
Wow that kind of distance would lead me to believe that you caught some nice winds going up that hill!

I've seen that happen before where you will throw and the disc will start to fade, and then the wind will pick the disc up and send it another 200'! I've done it a few times when throwing downhill in crosswinds. Longest throw was about 530', but again, that's downhill.

Oct 06 2004, 09:20 AM
I suspect that key to this mystery is that you were throwing uphill. You started to the right, then go your normal fade started (first fade to the left). However, as the dics slowed, gravity then started to pull it back downhill (back to the right) until the speed and spin got so low that the disc finished up with its final fade back to the left.

Oct 06 2004, 11:55 AM
I drove the disc with some hyzer on it and realeased it aiming a little to the right. The disc went from Right then started fading to the left. To my surprise, the disc then seemed to stratighten out. It then turned over (turned right) and then finally faded left to it's resting spot underneath the pin. All in all, the throw was about 460'.



Was it fading right or fading left as you threw it out to the right to start? If you just threw it out to the right and it turned over and then came back its just a hyzer flip.

Oct 06 2004, 02:39 PM
Hi all, thanks for all your help. To just clarify a couple of things...it wasn't a totally uphill shot. The gound went like this... (don't want to give the impression that I am better than I actually am).....

......XXXXxxx____xxxx (sorry if this confuses any of you!) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yes the disc faded to the right at first then went left then right then left...

circle_2
Oct 06 2004, 04:41 PM
I'm guessing you had a L>R wind, which coupled with uneven ground resulted in some "eddies" or wind layering...thus contributing to a 'double turnover'..."or something"... :D

Oct 06 2004, 06:05 PM
What he said. ^^^

Blarg
Oct 08 2004, 05:58 AM
<font color="red">And that's a helix, Felix. </font>
:D