This is my second "first year". I busted my throwing wing in a skateboard wipeout last year and now I get to play DG with three plates in my lower arm. When I came back out this year I started thowing a natural anhyzer. Good at times, but aggravating at others. So how do you throw a turning shot. Not a flat shot that fades on the end. A real turn. A couple of holes here in northern KY are really frustrating .

It shouldn't be hard to throw with hyzer unless your disc is too understable. Release the disc with the outside edge pointed down instead of releasing the disc flat.

ADiscand3Plates:

Great handle! :DSorry about your injuries. :(
Another way to throw a big hyzer curve is to first learn to throw a disc flat and then bend at the waist a bit while throwing flat. The angle of your torso will now create a hyzer angle at release and you can achieve huge slow turning curves. :D

Another way to throw a big hyzer curve is to first learn to throw a disc flat and then bend at the waist a bit while throwing flat. The angle of your torso will now create a hyzer angle at release and you can achieve huge slow turning curves. :D



I never thought about bending at the waist. I will go out and experiment with this.

The conventional method of throwing the outside down isn't working for me (yet). I am not sure if the problem is between my ears or in my wrist. Most of the time, it just comes out flat.

I wouldn't complain too much... I spent my first year getting rid of my nasty Hyzer... I can control it now, but if I ever needed a right turning shot my only option was a Tomahawk.

ADiscand3Plates

What discs are you throwing? This could help with your diagnosis

What discs are you throwing? This could help with your diagnosis



That thought has hit me several times. I forgot to say anything in my last post. My "goto" discs are Cobra's. I have three in my bag now. They don't turn well. The disc I am supposed to use is my Roc. It is a little beat up and just not getting it done. I've tried a Valk, a Beast, and an Orc. What I would like is to get one of my Cheetah's to turn as good to the right as I can make them turn to the left.

An easy way I have always gotten a pretty good hyzer is to have your throwing arm finish higher than its starts... for me it is roughly that if it stays at same level, straight... if I drop it, annie... if I raise up... hyzer... That may work for you.

I think you're trying to throw an anhyzer (RHBH throw, turns from left to right) not a hyzer. If you can't get a cobra to turn right don't expect a Roc (or any of the more stable discs you mentioned) to turn any better. I suggest a Stingray or Shark in DX plastic for turnovers (Leopard for longer shots). Or learn to throw forehand, if your surgically repaired arm can handle it.

Experiment with the nose angle, too. The disc will want to take more of a hyzer flight path the higher the nose gets.

What I would like is to get one of my Cheetah's to turn as good to the right as I can make them turn to the left.



I just got back into my office and re-read my last post. I messed that up. What I am trying to do is get my Cheetah to turn LEFT as good as I can make it turn RIGHT.

I spent time over the weekend with one of my original Cheetah's trying to bend at the waist (Blarg) and to finish higher (TreeKlunker). Both of these are working. I am (at this point) OVER doing it and getting too much turn. I suspect it may take a while for me to "tune" these up, but it was nice to see that ugly Cheetah turn hard right. :)

try a firebird or a monster. the monster will turn left for sure... the firebird will be easier to control on a long hyzer shot. Also try something like a TeeBird for some good control shots. Cheetahs are going to turn right. So are Cobras. Also keep in mind that if you throw any disc soft enough, it will hyzer for you :)

For me, it's mostly about the angle of release... The inside edge, not the outside, should be down. If you grip a disc as if you are going to throw, then extend it out in front of your body(not to the side), the outside edge will be in your hand. RHBH a hyzer angle should look something like:

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of course this is very rough, but just imagine that the dots and slashes all make up one disc. Then it'll make more sense :D This is the angle you should release the disc with in order to throw a proper hyzer.

If the finishing higher is over turning it (as it can) then you may want to try throwing flatter with a big turning disc. I would say if you want a shot to go left NOW... try a Discraft Elite Z - Xtreme. I can throw it perfectly flat and it starts to turn almost immediately... I carry discs in a varying degree of overstability to make it turn less or more as needed. This will get you the slow turns, the huge drastic turns are what the weird throws are for.

Treeklunker makes a good point. There are many discs that will do nothing but turn left for virtually any newer player.
Z-Flick, Beast, Monster, Firebird, to mention a few.
All those discs will tend to turn left if thrown flat, especially for a beginner.
Also, if you're used to lighter weight discs, going up in weight will make the disc more likely to fly right to left no matter what it is.

P.S.
Cheetahs are understable and are one of the easiest discs out there to make turn over left to right (RHBH).

I'm a righty and I threw a tommahawk in my disc golf infancy because I lacked the ability and knowledge to thorw a proper turnover shot. Now a few years later I'm starting to get a good feel for turnover shots but I still love to throw the Tommahawk when I have a chance. I use a very overstable disc (used to use a Whippet, now a Monster),with two fingers under the rim and I simply let the disc work upside down. The finish of the shot is unpredictable most times (sometimes you get a NICE kiss as the top of the disc skips off of the ground at high speed), but the distance and accuracy is still more predictable with the Tommahawk, even though the disc's maybe aren't meant to fly "that" way ;)

wrong thread , SORRY ! :o