Why would any company make a green disc?
I have a Gateway First Run Spirt that is green, the same as grass. I really don't know how it flys because I don't want to spend time looking for it. <font color="green"> </font>
tafe
Sep 22 2004, 11:19 AM
Dude. You live in WI. I shouldn't have to say anymore. Snow? Also, green works well in the fall when red, yellow and orange like to disappear in piles of leaves.
I don't think that green discs are a problem. If you are in grass that means you are probably in the fairway and if you lose a disc in a fairway you shouldn't be on the course to begin with. The disc color I dislike for non-snow golfing is a dull black because it hides VERY easily in brush on those errant drives... its not cool when your disc suddenly becomes a shadow.
Jake L
Sep 22 2004, 11:47 AM
I don't think that green discs are a problem. If you are in grass that means you are probably in the fairway and if you lose a disc in a fairway you shouldn't be on the course to begin with.
I know a few Color-blind golfers. Even a Red disc can get lost in the grass.
I know a few Color-blind golfers. Even a Red disc can get lost in the grass.
I hereby wish to explain that I by no means wish to insult someone with a limitation such as color blindness who plays our great game. I was merely trying to say that if you keep your disc in the fairway and know the course you should be able to find discs fairly easily. I have no idea the difficulty a color-blind person would experience on a course, but know that I really appreciate having a bright orange elite-Z XL in my bag. I can see that thing a fairway over (where I unfortunately sometimes end up).
Jake L
Sep 22 2004, 12:16 PM
A simple test to check yourself HERE (http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html)
There may be a reason some have trouble finding their discs.
Very cool link, Jake. I am very grateful that I easily passed all the tests and I know I am blessed to have perfect vision. Thinking about it more I can only imagine the difficulty of finding discs especially in brush or high grass or even yet in low light. I guess I speak with a little ignorance to the difficulties faced by those with this condition. But if they can overcome it to play the game that's great and I would love to play with anyone who loves to play. And for the record, I think my wife is just "disc-blind"... if her disc is not EXACTLY where she goes to look for it she gives up and yells for me to come find it.. usually end up finding it within 50 feet of her and I get a good laugh. I have actually just gotten used to going to her disc first on the way to my disc (she drives only about a little more than half as far as I) to find it so that I don't have to zig zag the course coming back.
I don't think that green discs are a problem. If you are in grass that means you are probably in the fairway and if you lose a disc in a fairway you shouldn't be on the course to begin with.
You've never thrown to a blind location on a fairway into grass that hasn't been cut in the past few days? I know plenty of holes where it's not always easy to find discs even on the fairway let alone green discs unless you know exactly where the disc landed. There are also a lot of courses where they only mow the fairways. Finding a green disc in long grass is very, very difficult.
quickdisc
Sep 22 2004, 01:19 PM
I don't think that green discs are a problem. If you are in grass that means you are probably in the fairway and if you lose a disc in a fairway you shouldn't be on the course to begin with.
You've never thrown to a blind location on a fairway into grass that hasn't been cut in the past few days? I know plenty of holes where it's not always easy to find discs even on the fairway let alone green discs unless you know exactly where the disc landed. There are also a lot of courses where they only mow the fairways. Finding a green disc in long grass is very, very difficult.
Kind'a like throwing a white disc in the snow ;)
eddie_ogburn
Sep 22 2004, 01:24 PM
Green discs work fine here in NC. Most of the courses I play are in the woods with pine straw and dirt in the fairways.
soundconcepts
Sep 22 2004, 01:32 PM
I think the two worst colors for discs are black and for me red. Black hides real easily in shadows and stuff. And for me I am color blind and I can not see a red disc in green grass unless I step on it or some shows me exctly where it is. The thing that I find weird is that by logic it seems that green and red would contrast, and be easy to spot. But nope definitly not the way it works. Ive been to new courses and I have a heck of a time finding the teeboxes because they were marked with those red pin flags. My color blindness rarly causes me problems until I started playing disc golf. Oh well nothin I can do about it, just not buy red discs.
20460chase
Sep 22 2004, 02:07 PM
When am I going to see the sailboat?
warlocks00
Sep 22 2004, 02:29 PM
I am also color blind, aparently I get different colors mixed up than player-one cause I can find red ones pretty easy. But it is hard for me to find any green, brown and sometimes orange disc(depending on the shade of color).
cromwell
Sep 22 2004, 03:28 PM
When am I going to see the sailboat?
it's not a sailboat, it's a schooner :D
Kenja
Sep 22 2004, 03:46 PM
there are different types and magnitudes of red/green colorblindness... personally I have the most trouble with red & orange discs. we rely on contrast and pattern recognition to see differences in largely homogenous things; red discs on green grass simply don't stand out to the color-deficient eye. its gotten to the point where I ask my friends not to buy orange or red discs cause I can't help find em.
I've had a couple of these green spirits and I have no problems finding them on the fairway or in the woods. In case you haven't noticed, there are no constant colors in nature. Since these discs are solid green, they still stand out, because your eye's catch the lack of variation!
I haven't had problems with any discs, even black.
(17 year old eyes help)
every disc in my bag is green , i like the way they look and i have no problems finding them.though sometimes it does make finding a certain disc hard to locate :D
ck34
Sep 22 2004, 06:03 PM
Green discs work great here in Minnesota for almost half the year :D We'll swap you our white ones for your red and green ones just in time for Xmas.
Blarg
Sep 22 2004, 06:46 PM
Kenja:
If you don't mind the aesthetics, you could mark the edges with a sharpie in different ways to distinguish at a glance which disc is which.
Thinking of doing the same myself, as I have lots of orange discs. Orange and BRIGHT red (headed towards fuscia) seem to be the easiest to spot on any course I've played so far.
anita
Sep 22 2004, 06:53 PM
From the disc sellers perspective, I always thought that a green disc with clover heads hotstamps would be great!
Seriously, green ones aren't that hard to find. There is usually enough contrast between the color of the "grass" (actually weeds) and the green disc.
As a rule, I find fly dyes the hardest to find. Purple seems to blend in to shadows very well.
Blarg
Sep 22 2004, 07:01 PM
anita:
Me too. I have a beautiful purple and black fly-dyed T-bird that
disappears too often to use. I also have a green-yellow-red fly dye beast that I took to my local. Threw it into some tall weeds in 'the gorge' (signature hole at O.G.). Guess what colors the vegetation in the gorge is?
Yup. You guessed it.
Black discs look cool but also disappear too easily.
I do some disc-dyeing and have found that hard line geometric shapes (like stripes) while perhaps not so pretty, make a disc stand out almost regardless of colors.
There just aren't many instances of straight lines and right angles in nature.
As a rule, I find fly dyes the hardest to find. Purple seems to blend in to shadows very well.
Yes. I also dyed a yellow Z flash "red' (came out more of an orange red) needless to say that thing is almost impossible to find!
I've lost a few fly dye's. They look great in the air, but if you don't mark your spot very well, say goodbye.
vwkeepontruckin
Sep 23 2004, 11:11 AM
Why would any company make a green disc?
I have a Gateway First Run Spirt that is green, the same as grass. I really don't know how it flys because I don't want to spend time looking for it. <font color="green"> </font>
Then don't throw them in the rough. I have 6 Spirits in my bag, and 2 are the green you are refering two, with 2 others also being a green color. I have never had a problem when I only throw them. The only time I have problems, is when I throw more then one drive...but thats me, not the disc! Point being: Don't knock a disc just b/c of its color. If it was an Orc or something, you wouldn't have posted your complaint.
Why would any company make a green disc?
I have a Gateway First Run Spirt that is green, the same as grass. I really don't know how it flys because I don't want to spend time looking for it. <font color="green"> </font>
Then don't throw them in the rough. I have 6 Spirits in my bag, and 2 are the green you are refering two, with 2 others also being a green color. I have never had a problem when I only throw them. The only time I have problems, is when I throw more then one drive...but thats me, not the disc! Point being: Don't knock a disc just b/c of its color. If it was an Orc or something, you wouldn't have posted your complaint.
I just posted my opinion, please do not tell me what I would of have posted.
BTW my favorite driver is the Sabre and putter is the Wizard.
Just got back from lunch and used a CHEIF for my up shots.
I do not have any Innova in my bag.
anita
Sep 23 2004, 12:45 PM
Honestly Chris, I have never seen someone soooo brand loyal to the point of being overly sensitive.
I think the poster was complaining about the COLOR of the disc, not the brand of disc.
vwkeepontruckin
Sep 24 2004, 10:43 AM
Honestly Chris, I have never seen someone soooo brand loyal to the point of being overly sensitive.
I think the poster was complaining about the COLOR of the disc, not the brand of disc.
Well in his original post, he mentioned how he had never thrown it. And as for being too sensitive, its just a matter of impulsive posts w/o going back to edit. I apologize for the way I said it, but my point was that everyone is really TOO quick to rag on Gateway.
Honestly Chris, I have never seen someone soooo brand loyal to the point of being overly sensitive.
I think the poster was complaining about the COLOR of the disc, not the brand of disc.
Well in his original post, he mentioned how he had never thrown it. And as for being too sensitive, its just a matter of impulsive posts w/o going back to edit. I apologize for the way I said it, but my point was that everyone is really TOO quick to rag on Gateway.
I haven't seen any more ragging on Gateway on these boards (or any other borads for that matter) than any other brand. He said he never threw it because it was green, not because it was Gateway. He was just using the disc as an example. I think it's definately a "too oversensitive" issue.
mikeP
Sep 24 2004, 11:33 AM
Why would any company make a green disc?
I have a Gateway First Run Spirt that is green, the same as grass. I really don't know how it flys because I don't want to spend time looking for it. <font color="green"> </font>
Then don't throw them in the rough. I have 6 Spirits in my bag, and 2 are the green you are refering two, with 2 others also being a green color. I have never had a problem when I only throw them. The only time I have problems, is when I throw more then one drive...but thats me, not the disc! Point being: Don't knock a disc just b/c of its color. If it was an Orc or something, you wouldn't have posted your complaint.
The problem with this is that anyone can get an Orc of any color, anywhere. Gateway runs much fewer discs any in my experience retailers seem to get newer Gateway discs all in the same color. I have lost 2 of those pea-green Spirits and spent way too much time looking when I did find them. I realize that no single color will make everyone happy, but that green was terrible. I ended up coloring mine with hot pink nail polish around the edge and this helped for a while before it wore off. I will note that I lost the spirits in long grass where discs tend to come to rest vertically and it takes a sharp eye to find all but the brightest colors, but that green was absolutely impossible.
anita
Sep 24 2004, 11:52 AM
I have noticed that when I order a new model of disc for our local club, they do seem to be all the same color. It doesn't matter who made it, Gateway, Innova or Discraft. The first runs of any molds have limited color selections.
Green can be a bad color. Many colors are hard to find, green, yellow, orange (believe it or not), the mud color that some discs get when they are changing colors. I bet that there will be more color selection in runs to follow.
scottsearles
Sep 24 2004, 11:56 AM
I ended up coloring mine with hot pink nail polish around the edge and this helped for a while before it wore off. :confused:
Is this not an illegal disc? :confused:
anita
Sep 24 2004, 12:06 PM
Only in PDGA sanctioned events or where the PDGA rules are used.
mikeP
Sep 24 2004, 02:39 PM
It wasn't really nail polish, but an opaque, weather proof marker. The thickness on the surface of the disc was no more detectable than the stamp. I no longer use it, but I think it was in my bag for a tournament. Would it have been illegal?
anita
Sep 24 2004, 02:57 PM
It can't be of a "detectable" thickness. Things like ink markers (Sharpies, Marks Alot, etc) are fine. There is a guy around here who puts pretty detailed designs on his discs with markers.
Things like spray paint are not legal as they do have a detectable thickness. They also can add to the weight of the disc.
woodpecker
Sep 24 2004, 05:42 PM
green plastic rules...maybe it's me and maybe not...but it seems to me that the dark green colors are the most stable on any type of disc....atleast it seems that way to me and I have experienced with all colors...
woodpecker
Sep 24 2004, 05:43 PM
and I have not lost any green ones....I watch where my disc goes...
Blarg
Sep 25 2004, 04:39 AM
Every company makes green discs. Usually a bright green.
I have a brown Cyclone. Trust me, green is better! At least they've all had sense enough not to make brown and tan discs (much). The ones I've seen disappear if you just drop them.
I wish all my discs were black, but black is easily lost in shadows. Yeah, shadows! I'd have all black discs and a black bag and wear a black bandanna and a black ninja suit and I'd be fantastic, I'd never lose a disc and I'd throw thousand foot drives, then disappear and they'd call me, 'The Shadow!'
Then I'd get disqualified for not wearing a collared shirt. :p
:D
P.S.
Not a bad name for a disc.