i hope one of the moderators actually LOOKS at the names of the newest members as they sign up so that i don't have to spend the time looking at it when i long on everytime untilsomeone else new signs up.....
can't curse on here but you can name yourself anything you want....real smart!

that's just sad.

I say you have to log on using your PDGA number, and you get a random password when you renew. That way you have to be a PDGA member to use this PDGA funded website. You also have instant accountability, and Theo and friends gain a way to actually ban morons.

Plus it's an incentive for posters to renew before the end of the year crunch so that they don't lose any posting time.

I think the time has come for this. There is always rec.sport.disc for the people who just can't bring themselves to support the organization that provides this message board. Why should they get to post here anyway?

Wasn't really a fan of our newest member that signed up this afternoon..........I agree with using your PDGA ### if you want to post, it would take care of all this Anon posting we have to put up with /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Now that you have started this, how do you find out who just signed up ?

Figured out how, sorry that I did.

I say you have to log on using your PDGA number, and you get a random password when you renew. That way you have to be a PDGA member to use this PDGA funded website.




i agree kinda - i think anyone should be able to get on, but only PDGA members should be able to post

I agree. Let the masses read, and PDGA members post. Please delete the cowards user name.

I just saw it at the bottom of the page where it says our newest member..........and like you I wish I wouldn't have :mad:

that's just sad.

I say you have to log on using your PDGA number, and you get a random password when you renew. That way you have to be a PDGA member to use this PDGA funded website. You also have instant accountability, and Theo and friends gain a way to actually ban morons.

Plus it's an incentive for posters to renew before the end of the year crunch so that they don't lose any posting time.

I think the time has come for this. There is always rec.sport.disc for the people who just can't bring themselves to support the organization that provides this message board. Why should they get to post here anyway?



Don't you think that some PDGA members create alter egos to say what needs to be said without being named?

If you force some type of valid id system, where will it go from there?...checking posts for ties to al qaeda?....force users to take the mark of the beast?

Get over it...DAVE VINCENT PDGA #24099 DOB:1/10/78 Soc. Sec.# 14420 San Diego, CA /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I just saw it at the bottom of the page where it says our newest member..........and like you I wish I wouldn't have :mad:



could someone PM me what the username was ?

thanks jl
sounds like someone has some growing up to do,that just is not right and i hope thoe takes that off the regestered users list asap. does this person have some ill will towards frank or is he just a loser.i don't like to say thing like that ,thats just the way i feel ( sorry )

Dave I agree with part of what you said, but, IMHO, if you can't say it under your own name, you shouldn't say it. The anonymity of forums and email empowers some people to say things that they would be afraid or ashamed to say otherwise. Just my opinion. :D

If you force some type of valid id system, where will it go from there?...checking posts for ties to al qaeda?....force users to take the mark of the beast?


Um, yeah. That's a logical extension of what I was saying.

not.

It is a slippery slope arguement...but one none-the-less. :D

Dave I agree with part of what you said, but, IMHO, if you can't say it under your own name, you shouldn't say it. The anonymity of forums and email empowers some people to say things that they would be afraid or ashamed to say otherwise. Just my opinion. :D


Some people aren't afraid or ashamed, they would just rather not have to deal with a bunch of backlash...Should whistleblowers be strung up and shown to the world if they don't want to be known?... :confused:

Now that you have started this, how do you find out who just signed up ?

Figured out how, sorry that I did.


me too. isn't this board moderated? they can ***** words when used properly, but not take care of crap like that? c'mon mods, where you guys hiding?

Dave I agree with part of what you said, but, IMHO, if you can't say it under your own name, you shouldn't say it. The anonymity of forums and email empowers some people to say things that they would be afraid or ashamed to say otherwise. Just my opinion. :D


Some people aren't afraid or ashamed, they would just rather not have to deal with a bunch of backlash...Should whistleblowers be strung up and shown to the world if they don't want to be known?... :confused:



if thier not man enough to stand by what thier saying and if thier not man enough to take a little heat for what they said then thier not man enough to say it in the first place IMO :mad:

What TFO said!

Plus it is my PDGA fees that pay for this website. And your fees, too. And it is PDGA volunteers that spend countless hours maintaining it. Why should my dollars and their volunteer hours have to continually wasted trying to track down morons like the latest one and BigRedKilla and a plethora of others when those hours could be spent productively instead, enhancing the PDGA online experience?

The internet ain't free, man. We pay for it. Well, those of us that join and support the organization that is.

What TFO said!

Plus it is my PDGA fees that pay for this website. And your fees, too. And it is PDGA volunteers that spend countless hours maintaining it. Why should my dollars and their volunteer hours have to continually wasted trying to track down morons like the latest one and BigRedKilla and a plethora of others when those hours could be spent productively instead, enhancing the PDGA online experience?

The internet ain't free, man. We pay for it. Well, those of us that join and support the organization that is.



You're right...My fees too. I don't know who "latest one and BigRedKilla" are or what they've done, so I can't speak to that. I can, however, go back to my original statement of sometimes it is better to remain anonymous.

P.S. I am man enough to say it and take the heat, so bring it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I just saw it at the bottom of the page where it says our newest member..........and like you I wish I wouldn't have :mad:



could someone PM me what the username was ?



Would someone do the same for me? I must have missed whatever it was that you guys saw. :confused:

dave i wasn't refering to you so keep those pythones in there hoisters man :D
i was refering to that jackel who posted that user name he is not man enough so he should stay out of the kitchen.

It's fairly easy to look at the user list and click on the "registered on" date to figure this one out. Good luck all.

If there are things that need to be said that could cause a negative backlash, is this the right forum for them inthe first place. A private email to the proper committee or person in the PDGA might be the better choice. I maintain a seperate ID because I thought that it might be better not to have everything I say immediately tied to a state coordinator.

I have since quite using it anywhere except the chat room, and not too often there.

I always mean what I meant to say and always try to say it so there is no confusion.

Oh yeah,
Only current PDGA members should be allowed to post, and the profile must contain at least the proper PDGA number.

I still don't know what you are talking about, but I did figure out what Pythones and Hoisters are though. :D

I don't think that this should be a message board for PDGA members only. There are a lot of golfers that love disc golf and aren't registered with the PDGA. I still like talking with them. For instance, Boru from Hawaii, I don't think he is registered with the PDGA, Hawaii doesn't have enough PDGA activity to justify a membership, but he does support disc golf, and I enjoy conversations we have had on this forum.

You can take the stance of "i'm paying for this, and I say it should be locked down to PDGA only"
or...
"I'm paying for this, and I say it should be available to all disc golfers who want to talk about disc golf"

The problem you are going to run into is that you have two competing schools of thought. Bottomline is we both pay our fees each year so one doesn't have the authority to cancel out the other.

I don't like the country club viewpoint that much, and I think locking this down to PDGA members only in order to fix the problem caused by a couple morons is ludicrous. I believe it might perpetuate the class systems and snobby arrogance that have already started to become very apparent in our sport, especially in regards to this board.

There's always rec.sport.disc on usenet.

That forum doesn't take PDGA volunteer time to support it. :)


It sure is funny how wanting to keep from wasting PDGA volunteer time on morons is suddenly a "class system snobbery" move. Hmmm....

It is a desire to have a responsible system. There is no way to force people that register to put in correct contact info short of issuing them passwords with their membership and then allow them to post.

It is always the few that abuse the free systems that harm the many that make use of them when they are closed off from free use.

It sure is funny how wanting to keep from wasting PDGA volunteer time on morons is suddenly a "class system snobbery" move. Hmmm....


Above statement DOES NOT mean the same thing as below statement!

I think locking this down to PDGA members only in order to fix the problem caused by a couple morons is ludicrous. I believe it might perpetuate the class systems and snobby arrogance that have already started to become very apparent in our sport,



Rhett, you take things personal that aren't meant to be taken personal! What I said was an observation, not an attack. You need to relax a bit.
Please don't try to get clever with me by misquoting me. If you want to discuss something, then let's discuss it, but those jr. high tactics of trying to twist what other people say are a bit irritating, this isn't politics and I don't think there are any girls involved so let's just talk straight instead of mumbling under your breath, yeah?

Your words are very personal. And quite condescending.

Tell me how I should take them.

<font color="red">I don't see what the big deal is if someone wishes to use the name Murderer Frank Dorsett (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=5432&page=1&what=showmembers). What's the big F---ing deal bit-ch??!! </font>

Your words are very personal. And quite condescending.



I apologize. It was not my intention to hurt your feelings.
I don't take back anything I wrote, but it is unfortunate that you were hurt in the process of me explaining something in regards to something that wasn't directed at you, but if you want to include yourself in that group (as you obviously seem you need to by the defensive stand you take) that is your decision. Cheers.

(Rhett this next statement IS NOT directed solely at you, just a fore-warning so don't read if you are worried about being offended)

Why can't anyone say anything is this stupid country without someone getting offended by it, are we all that insecure and defensive with ouselves? I long for a time when I can discuss something with someone from different viewpoints without worrying about hurting their feelings, or ruining the friendship, or them pulling out a gun and shooting me in the head. We need to have a bit less pride and a bit more humility and pull our heads out more often to realize that sometimes we are wrong, and when that happens we need to have the guts to admit it PUBLICLY. sheesh, I'm moving to Argentina Oh, and while I am on a roll, I hate seeing huge trucks and SUVs in the city.

Everyone that decides to get ****** about what I just said will just be supporting what I just said.

Read the post above yours.

Those are the morons I'm talking about. And they waste our resources. Resources better spent on disc golf.

I can't think of a better way to eliminate those kinds of morons than limiting posting to members. Can you? Or is that stuff okay with you?

this is the same moron who started the recently deleted thread. it is provable, but for the moment i'd rather not reveal the means of proof. he's not a pdga member, he's not even a dg'er. the guy is asking for some serious trouble of the legal sort. and if he continues, i sure wouldnt wanna be him IF he ever shows up at a course anywhere around here..

I agree with everything you have to say, ryangwillim.

I am a PDGA member, though not current. Regardless, I should still be able to use the boards, just like I am still able to play tournaments while not being current. My $5 per tournament fee helps fund the boards, too. There should be a way to prevent the problem users, though. I just don't think having to be a current PDGA member the fair way to do it.
B.

As for this particular guy, I look forward to meeting him. Greatly. He probably won't look forward to it nearly as much as I.

For the bigger issue here, I've been very outspoken on this topic in the past. While I'd love to see a way to weed out the maroons, I am wholly against the idea of membership only posting. We get some great feedback and input from all walks of disc golfers on here, and to throw out the baby with the bath water is counter intuitive to the purpose, and in my mind, best uses of this board.

Yes, I agree with Rhett and the rest who would like to see this method used as a good way to stop anon posting, but the negatives outweigh the positive participation of many non-members. This board is for discussion and sharing ideas. Once you limit who can discuss and share, this board becomes more like a shadow of what it is now, than improved.

There's bound to be another way, that's all I'm saying.

Do not allow anonymous posting, and deliver initial passwords via snail-mail?

How can you verify the identity of posters and prevent malicious personal attacks ?

Discussion is one thing

Lame...It only takes mere seconds for us to spot the "intruder" if they are causing real harm. It doesn't always have to be a "one bad apple spoils the bunch" mentality. We can Self Police the board.

For the bigger issue here, I've been very outspoken on this topic in the past. While I'd love to see a way to weed out the maroons, I am wholly against the idea of membership only posting. We get some great feedback and input from all walks of disc golfers on here, and to throw out the baby with the bath water is counter intuitive to the purpose, and in my mind, best uses of this board.




Granted, I'm one of those anonymous posters, but I totally agree. The benefit of online forums like this is that you get a very wide variety of posters. If you limit membership to the forum you'll end up with the same people talking about the same stuff and it will get very boring very fast. While there is the downside of jerks coming on here and posting cowardly stuff, I think most people would rather have that than a clubhouse for members (it wouldn't really be a "forum" anymore). Volunteers moderate a vast majority of online forums. Being a moderator for a forum is a lot of work, but that job is almost always taken by someone who is dedicated and is willing to put up with some crap. They have to be dedicated or else they wouldn't be volunteering for it. This board isn't any different in that respect.

One alternative I've seen successfully implemented before is having one room that's "members only." That would allow members to discuss PDGA, or any other topic exclusively with other members.

Also, while I do post anonymously, I'll probably reveal my identity via PM if anyone asks...not that it will mean anything to anyone. In my case, giving my name out isn't any more informative than using the surname that I use on all other online forums. I've only ever met one person on this board, anyway and he knows who I am. I really am just some random dude who likes to talk about disc golf. Should that really not be allowed because some members abuse the rules?

What about PDGA members being able to "invite" users. With PDGA membership you get 5 invites to the mess board, and you are responsible for your invites.

Read the post above yours.

Those are the morons I'm talking about. And they waste our resources. Resources better spent on disc golf.

I can't think of a better way to eliminate those kinds of morons than limiting posting to members. Can you? Or is that stuff okay with you?



I'm sorry, that you think I'm some sort of Moron. I only posted what people where asking for this guy's (offensive or not). I also post with a little intended humor but it sounds like Rhett (minibigarm) doesn't have a since of humor or he just takes life a little too serious for my taste. Hope you all get what you want and that karma treats you correctly for your decisions.

I like that idea...Any one want to sponsor me...I'll be good :D

I would but your sister told me your not a good little boy.

limiting access would be rather stupid because these forums are the internets best way to recruit and advance new people to the sport that aren't ready to become members.

: ) :

It sure is difficult to express myself around here with everyone taking everything I post so personally while they say that I do the same. :confused:

I didn't want to post the new moron's username. PERFECT_NORTH did post it so that everybody knew what we were talking about. I was not trying to imply or say that PERFECT_NORTH was a moron. I was trying to refer the other poster to P_N's post which revealed the moron's user name.

Sorry PERFECT_NORTH. You should lighten up a little and take life a little less seriously.

Now, that's how it's done Rhett (minibigarm) all you need now is an anonymous username and the fun can really begin.

Just for the record I am a member of the PDGA I just like to hit on topics that get people going without having to watch my back (as so many of you lovely posters have stated about people like us) at every event that I play or even during a casual round of golf.
You say we have a problem with anonymous poster and I say the problem is hate filled members with nothing to lose.

thank you pdga for the " ignore this user" option
you should try it rhett,it lets like the v chip it let's you weed out the junk :D

Let's rally the villagers and create a witch hunt...BTW I am also a member :o

Do you know what they used to do to find a witch? Blind fold a cow a slap it on the ***** to get it a running and how ever's house the cow end up in was the witch.

How can tell it some bodies a witch? since witch's are made of wood and wood floats then if the witch weights as much as a duck since a duck floats then said witch must be a witch.

that's just sad.

I think the time has come for this. There is always rec.sport.disc for the people who just can't bring themselves to support the organization that provides this message board. Why should they get to post here anyway?



Sad indeed!!!!

Just because I don't play the sport...hence the reason I don't have a PDGA number....Not everyone is capable of playing this sport 'healthwise'...But they still show an interest...You all would rather I not be able to post on the board in the future ..I am merely a spectator w/ an opinion and I support the PDGA and Disc Golfing in many other ways like volunteering when I can..w/out being a PDGA member :confused:. It would be one of those 'look but don't touch' type things...requiring a PDGA membership won't solve the problem.

Gosh you all make me feel so welcome on this board. :( Thanks..

You could become a member. Membership does not mandate playing.

I believe that anyone and every one should be about to post on this message board PDGA member or not, at least if their posting they know about disc golf and that's a start. To make the board members only will only hurt the board and the people how like to read so of those off the wall post of people like [*****] clown, Hyzerace, Perfect North,...etc.
There are also those people how post constructively on topics, should they loss there voice to.

Remember there is that ignore this user option if you don't like to read what certain people post.

Joy4ully has a great point here. I know how hard she works at some of our local events, and have known her to help out on the road as well. Ask some of the folks at Worlds, or Asheville. I also like her insight from a neautral perspective on many of the topics she posts about. Why elliminate people such as her from this board, when the truth of the matter is that she does a whole lot more for the sport than most people, me included.

You all would rather I not be able to post on the board in the future....
Gosh you all make me feel so welcome on this board. :( Thanks..



Whoa hold on a second. Are you sure you don't mean "Rhett would rather"... and. "Gosh Rhett you make me feel..."

He speaks loud, but he doesn't speak for the majority!

Am I reading this right? People don't like Joy4ully posting cause she is not a member of the PDGA? Say it ain't so!

You all would rather I not be able to post on the board in the future....
Gosh you all make me feel so welcome on this board. :( Thanks..



Whoa hold on a second. Are you sure you don't mean "Rhett would rather"... and. "Gosh Rhett you make me feel..."

He speaks loud, but he doesn't speak for the majority!



I think he just meant those that think only membes should post. There were several people at the beginning of this thread that thought that way. If he meant everyone he would have said "all y'all" instead of just "you all." ;)

garu,

FYI, he is a she ;)

Joy4ully,

Don't let the word twisters make you think I don't appreciate your posts. There are currently some trollers here that get great enjoyment out of starting [*****] for no other reason than the joy they get from the reactions. Oh well. Sometimes I do the same. :o

What I would hate to happen, though, would be for people I've met in person or through this board to get the wrong impression from what I post. When people start quoting my name and saying the crap the last couple of posters posted, and they do it for sport, that's when it sucks.

As far as non-member posts, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CREATE NEW USER NAMES LIKE "MURDERER_JOHN_SMITH" SO THAT THE "NEWEST MEMBER" THING ON THE FRONT PAGE SAYS "MURDERER_JOHN_SMITH" FOR ALL VISITORS TO SEE.

I am also talking about the anonymous posters who use "hit and run" tactics to talk crap with no repurcussions to themselves.

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE NON-MEMBER WHO POSTS HERE. So don't take it so personally, as the trollers like to say to me so much lately. I'd like to find a way to get rid of the two types of anonymous poster I referred to above. I'd like to find a way that did not waste a lot of volunteer time chasing morons and deleting their posts and their accoutns, only to have them creat new anonymous accounts and start all over. I proposed one way. I doubt it will ever come to that.

I was just using that post to make a silly joke about "y'all" and "all y'all," but since I've apparently been dragged into this...


I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE NON-MEMBER WHO POSTS HERE.



That's exactly what you said, though:


I say you have to log on using your PDGA number, and you get a random password when you renew. That way you have to be a PDGA member to use this PDGA funded website.



People aren't argueing that the anonymous posters you're talking about are good or shouldn't be punished, but we are arguing that your solution is a very bad one.

Hit and run?...Try hit and sit :D

Oh Ok Rhett.. I am glad you cleared that up..I know what you are saying..but wanted to just make the point that if they ban all nonmembers that would include people like me.. I know the bad posters make it hard on the good ones.. but hope that somehow even if we are non PDGA members that we could read and post..

And yes..I met you and liked you alot.. you are cool.(btw..did you check out the CDGC photo gallery of the pic of you and me? lots of hair..man...). that is why I responded to you in particular instead of others on the thread.. we have met and I figured you would not take what I said in a bad way...really guys Rhett is cool in person... he isn't as mean as he sounds on the board..haha..

So one day maybe it will be that they can weed out all those sour GRANNY SMITH apples :( in the bunch... so we SWEET RED DELICIOUS ones can stay :D

Thnx for posting good things Craig squared... Is always good to help when I can.. I enjoy it..

I like Granny Smith apples, and really dislike the grainy, poor tasting "Red Delicious" ones. But I would say that "Red Delicious" apples would probably be good for apple sauce.

I pretty much agree with that assessment. I'm going to side with the granny smiths.

========FREE GRANNY SMITHS===========

I pretty much agree with that assessment. I'm going to side with the granny smiths.

========FREE GRANNY SMITHS===========



Too funny... just as I am logging off I read these 2 posts...you guys are nuts... gez...

I can't eat no apples...they hurt the only tooth I gots left...but i sure love me some applesauce with cinnamon. :D

GO GRANNY SMITHS GO

I like to see sour apples win something every now and then.

That does not mean that golden delouses have any thing wrong with them.

Poor little toothie :D:D:o

hyzer, you don't seem like a nice person. what do you have against apples?

Gary

hyzer, you don't seem like a nice person. what do you have against apples?

Gary


See two posts up...But, I gots nothin against smashed apples...I play by the "lake" too.

BTW I am very mean :mad:

what lake???

mean usually means scared...

mean usually means scared...



The same lake that you play at...And yes I am very timid and scared deep down inside, thanks for finding the root of my problems... :(

at Elmira? do you know me? you're welcome!

Yes I know you...not from Elmira...From a friend :confused:

I was up at Dexter last month. That's a fun course, not xtremely wonderful, but fun.

at Elmira? do you know me? you're welcome!



He knows you from me...remember that time we met at Elmira? I told Dave Vincent all about you :D

I played Elmira-But MICH. :cool:has doper courses

really, i've never been...

the weather has been great...made my first birdie yesterday!!!

I made my first birdie yesterday too!

I just saw it at the bottom of the page where it says our newest member..........and like you I wish I wouldn't have :mad:



could someone PM me what the username was ?



Would someone do the same for me? I must have missed whatever it was that you guys saw. :confused:



I too am on the clueless couch on this one.... a PM w/the name you're all referring to, please????

<font color="red">I don't see what the big deal is if someone wishes to use the name Murderer Frank Dorsett (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=5432&page=1&what=showmembers). What's the big F---ing deal bit-ch??!! </font>



THAT's the name ya'll have your panties in a bunch about??? Good grief. Sounds like some folks really need to get a life! It's a screen name for F sake!

I'm torn between the argument of making posters be current members. On the one hand, I have a friend who posts anonymously as they have seen what I have experienced since signing up. I have several new butt holes and now a stalker as well. ;) How lucky is that!!??? And that person doesn't want new ones ripped in them, thank you very much. However, by using my real name, I've had several folks come up to me and introduce themselves and it's all been good!!!

On the other hand, I'd really like to know the name of my stalker, but probably never will unless/until he turns dangerous with threats. Then I would contact Conrad via a court ordered subpoena to give up the information. But it hasn't come to that and is all just harmless fun for a jerk who has no life. I actually feel sorry for him!

But for now, it's still a free country and well, we're all free to do as we wish ~~ all that "free will" stuff, ya know.

As far as the BOD spending time monitoring this board, well, obviously they aren't so no need to worry about our fees going to that function. :o

Well that is the point. Conrad doesn't necessarily have real information about who the poster is. Unless the poster also has a real and trackable id and is using the same computer for both, and that computer isn't behind a corporate firewall or using an anonomizing server to post. With some real verifiable ID being reauired to set up an account, there is no truly reliable way to identify the real user.

I have neveer said that the poster must make their identity available to the board, but do think it needs to be verified by the administrators before a user is allowed to post.

If your stalker is that banjo playing dude. I would think local (assuming you are SoCal). The dude thinks of Mark Loretta instead of the famous Loretta. My guess is that he is probably from the San Diego area because god knows, noone else knows any of the Padres. :p

can I get a PM? Amen!

Here is a copy of my apology to Michelle Wade, it went too far, and I'm sorry :(:
Michelle, I hope you didn't take offense to what I said... even thought it was personal, it was not meant to be a personal attack, just fun. I won't start anymore ***** either. Feel free to tear me a new one on the board, sorry :)

Hyzerace(that chick in Norcal, or that guy Satan)

Conrad doesn't necessarily have real information about who the poster is. Unless the poster also has a real and trackable id and is using the same computer for both, and that computer isn't behind a corporate firewall or using an anonomizing server to post.

actually, we know exactly who the poster is. we know where he works, his full name. in fact he is identified well enough to convict him had this been a crime.

i dont favor making this member-only board. however, i do favor restricting partipation on the board to verified names with verified email and physical addresses.

i dont favor making this member-only board. however, i do favor restricting partipation on the board to verified names with verified email and physical addresses.

How would it work? Verified by whom in what manner? I do not know what I think about this, but I might need to have an opinion sometime.

The reason I have been a proponent of "members only" posting is not because I don't think non-members have anything good to say, it's just that I skipped a couple of steps that y'all are just now getting to. I figure the easiest way to verify posters is to juts go by PDGA membership. Otherwise you spend a lot of volunteer time trying to validate whether the latest request is a real person or just another anonymous poster wannabe.

What easier to implement method of validation is there than "you send in your PDGA membership money and get posting rights."

Conrad doesn't necessarily have real information about who the poster is. Unless the poster also has a real and trackable id and is using the same computer for both, and that computer isn't behind a corporate firewall or using an anonomizing server to post.

actually, we know exactly who the poster is. we know where he works, his full name. in fact he is identified well enough to convict him had this been a crime.

i dont favor making this member-only board. however, i do favor restricting partipation on the board to verified names with verified email and physical addresses.


Is this the same guy who isn't even a dg'er?

Your post: Re: names of posters [Re: MiniBigArm]
#240036 - 09/21/04 05:33 PM Edit Reply Quote



this is the same moron who started the recently deleted thread. it is provable, but for the moment i'd rather not reveal the means of proof. he's not a pdga member, he's not even a dg'er. the guy is asking for some serious trouble of the legal sort. and if he continues, i sure wouldnt wanna be him IF he ever shows up at a course anywhere around here..

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One Person, One Vote * * May Not Apply In Some States

bruce, sorry, i didnt notice this thread was continuing, and my workplace has adopted a newly nazi-esque attitude concerning the use of their precious bandwidth for non-biz use :)

i would propose that new message board accounts submit a verifiable PDGA number with current name and address that match our records, along with a phone number for live verification. i'll volunteer to do the phone calls... it'll be a pain in the butt, but i suspect the number of new registrants wont be too great after the policy gains some momentum.

for the longterm, i would suggest a member-only approach. a "non-playing" membership at reduced rates should be made available for those, well, non-playing members of our community.

this is in line with at least one soon-to-be-released online initiative that will require pdga membership to access, and therefore consistant with the future of our overall website.

regardless, i do not buy the argument that it is easier to submit ideas or challenge the "authorities" by hiding behind bogus usernames. in my experience, ideas that cannot be honored by making their proponent known are worthy only of avoidance. certainly some of the line-crossing that has occured on here recently is sufficient to warrant a serious look at restricting access to known parties.

i strongly agree that only pdga members should be able to post to this board. and if you want to make a cheaper non-playing membership that would be cool, but only activate after a reply from valid email address. the argument that it is easier to challenge authority anonymously is insane. anonymous comments not only hold no weight with me, but i am likely to go the other way due to the extreme lack of cowardice usually involved. if you can't put your name to it, it isn't worth saying.

if you can't put your name to it, it isn't worth saying.



That has got to be the best thing I have ever seen written on this board :cool::D

I think it's great that non-members can post in here.
Where else can they ask questions of pros, designers, officials, and other players from around the world?
It is the single greatest recruiting entity for the sport, and the most comprehensive data base on the internet for information.

Why would anyone want to limit the exchange of ideas?

because there are those who are disruptive, slanderous and worse. people with legitimate questions would have a way to participate, member or not. the objective is to add some accountability.

There should be a relatively easy way to kick/ban disruptive
posters. There could be a warning issued followed by a ban
based upon the offending poster's IP address or the like.
It is done all the time on the IRC and on most online gaming sites.
Seems far simpler than revamping the whole PDGA board.

You would ban every employee at my company (behind the corporate firewall) if I became abusive?

I like the Greek philosophy on this. It's called public ostracization. Someone who uses a name like Frank Dorsett is a Saint, should be ignored. Within a day they will fade into the depths of unused threads and garbage and then the rest of us can go on abusing each other in a much more professional and polite way.

This very thread is a testament to the effectiveness of the poster Frank Dorsett is a Saint. It has actually spread his/her message by carrying on, try a little ignoring, it goes a long way.

This approach allows us to be true to the spirit of disc golf. We get to allow all people of the world to play and participate. We banish those of poor taste by ignoring them. Remember, cable T.V. only exists because people watch it.
:D

ya more people how think baning members is a good thing. Keep it up and you'll get red of me.

actually, sir, we're thinking of banning only members with ratings of 913.

It's a good thing mine dropped to 912 then.

I heard they were banning members with a 926 rating :D

only if they consistantly post right before anonymous posters ;) :D

ya more people how think baning members is a good thing. Keep it up and you'll get red of me.



Translation: "Yeah, more people who think banning members is a good thing. Keep it up and you'll get rid of me."

That's how I read it anyway. Perhaps North has smoked too much dope in his lifetime! :p

its enuf to make ya nash your teeth, isnt it ;)

its enuf to make ya nash your teeth, isnt it ;)



fur shur! ;)