Does anybody know how i can make a Target for my backyard?? Feel Free to Email me with suggestions
Blarg
Aug 16 2004, 07:56 PM
Cheapest: Plastic trashcan weighted down. Insert pole or long tripod in trashcan. Attach circular object on top of pole/tripod (old bicycle wheel will work). Hang chains or thick ropes from the wheel and attach other ends to center pole just above trashcan rim.
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okcacehole
Aug 16 2004, 08:02 PM
Sweet...that about sums up some of my old roomies attempts at goals....should have seen the one made from a street sign and chicken wire for the basket :o
Seriously..if you are going to sink anywhere around $100 or so, I would buy a Ching Portable or Discatcher Portable....
Blarg
Aug 16 2004, 08:14 PM
They are great. I keep one in my car. Seen 'em on the 'net for about $90.
http://www.centxdglove.com/basket.html
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morgan
Aug 16 2004, 10:23 PM
To make a pole hole cheap for your back yard...hammer some long barn nails into a small tree. hang chains from it. hook em together at the bottom and put a trash can under to catch em.
can't cost more than $3.00 if you borrow the nails from your father, steal the trash can from your neighbor when he puts out the garbage, and take the chains from your school cause they don't use chains for the tires on the school bus in the summer and they are stored in the garage at school. And you can keep your dad from beating you if you just use your neighbor's tree to nail them to instead of his tree that he just planted.
Or, you can get a freaking job and buy one!!!!!!!!!
sandalman
Aug 16 2004, 11:03 PM
laundrey basket for basket, broom handle, 'nother laundrey basket bottom for the top. take all the old belts from dad's vintage muscle car and string 'em like chains. the ingenuity will make your dad so proud, and the stealth operation will have mama loving ya like a baby. this basket's so quiet she might not even ever find out where her tools went!
I made one out of an old fan. I took the screen apart, used one half as the top and one half as the bottom, I hung 18" lengths of 1/2" curtain rod from the top with string and attached the top to the bottom with coat hangers. I just hang it from a tree branch wherever I want it. Sometimes a long shot will make it swing a lot, but you can always use rope to stake it to the ground if you have to. Now I'm gonna make one of those tire ones from the link above. That thing looks great. :D
moolie
Aug 17 2004, 08:36 AM
I played a course in Maui where they had a few home-made baskets mixed in with standard baskets and a couple of tone poles. The home made baskets were constructed from a tire, Plywood, chanes and a pole. They resembled and caught very similar to a Mach III. They were impressive.
I bought an old 50 gallon plastic oil drum.I cut the bottom off 6" above the bottom for the basket and cut 2" below the top for the top. I used shower hooks every 3" around the top and bought 22' of cheap chain at Home Depot and put 16 chains on it. Works fine for a backyard basket.
riverdog
Aug 17 2004, 10:17 AM
Pruner, I love it. There's a private course here in Caroline between Sanford and Raleigh called Swingin' DB's, as in swinging disc baskets. All targets are homemade variations on the same concept. Really cool course. Now you can team up with Morgan to scrounge the neighborhood and come up with 17 more.
20460chase
Aug 17 2004, 10:46 AM
I have a rope staked to the ground from a tree in my backyard.Im Ghetto.
esalazar
Aug 17 2004, 11:49 AM
holy crap!! the innovators of tommorrow!!!!
meh what can ya do we just arent as creative as the old folks
flip a garbage can upside down and tape another garbage can on its side, to the top of the other garbage can
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Rodney Gilmore
Aug 17 2004, 10:28 PM
What?? No washtubs??
Washtub baskets are kinda like Jsims tire basket. They go together the same as the one on his link but no cutting the tire. I cant even tell you how many golfers around here used to have washtubs in their backyards.
Seriously though, the most important thing is getting the right chain. If you scrimp too much and get chain thats too light, it's not gonna catch at all. Pretty much same thing if you go with too heavy chain. Best bet is too look at the chain on the baskets at your courseand get chain that most closely resembles it in size and weight. Dont worry tho, Lowes and Home Depot should have plenty to chose from.
morgan
Aug 17 2004, 11:21 PM
The right chains are very important. That's why I use gold or platinum, because of the density, it really stops the discs. I use pure gold chain not gold filled or plated, because the gold plating just flakes off after a few hundred putts and gold filled just doesn't have the density of real 24 karat. The chain links are 3/4 inch and each link weighs about 4 troy ounces (gold is heavy) and at $478 per troy ounce in today's market (depending on whether you bought it on margin or used a broker) and 18 links per chain it will run about $9000 per chain and if you go with 18 chains per pole hole and tip your goldsmith right it will run you a quarter mil for the chains.
The good thing, if you ever lose interest in disc golf you can make like Mister T and go around the neighborhood with 56 tons of gold on your neck to build up your muscles.
pterodactyl
Aug 18 2004, 01:20 AM
jsims,
I've got one possible improvement for you basket. Put a bicycle tire on the top. No more hard surface hits to your putters. That's how I made one once. It's still being used out back. KL
Cheap option (less than $30)
Used tire = free (non steel radial)
4x4 post, 2-12" 2x4s = $4-8
18 2 ft. chain lengths = $24-26
Cut top off of tire with carpet knife, suspend that from the top of the 4x4 w/ a little chain.
Attach the bottom of the tire to the middle of the 4x4 with the 2x4s.
Attach remaining chain to the top piece, and voila!
Perfect putting basket, and it catches drives better than a CHING.
I made one for my backyard and it kicks *****.
esalazar
Aug 20 2004, 02:17 PM
Cheap option (less than $30)
Used tire = free (non steel radial)
4x4 post, 2-12" 2x4s = $4-8
18 2 ft. chain lengths = $24-26
Cut top off of tire with carpet knife, suspend that from the top of the 4x4 w/ a little chain.
Attach the bottom of the tire to the middle of the 4x4 with the 2x4s.
Attach remaining chain to the top piece, and voila!
Perfect putting basket, and it catches drives better than a CHING.
I made one for my backyard and it kicks *****.
get your lumber from the dump and your chain from the junk yard.now its a 5 dollar basket. :D
Blarg
Aug 21 2004, 06:19 AM
Cheapest:
Steal a bushel basket from a migrant worker. [free]
Find a short fat kid. [free]
Put the basket on an inverted garbage can. [free]
Put the fat kid in the basket. [free]
voila!
esalazar
Aug 21 2004, 08:11 AM
poor fat kid!
baldguy
Aug 21 2004, 08:19 AM
indeed... I just bought an old rusty one from a friend and cleaned it up, then painted it with a cold galvanizing compound... about $100, but it's a real-life DG basket just like the big boys use :D
disc19608
Oct 24 2004, 09:24 AM
Are there any legal ramifications to installing homemade virtual-replicas of Discatchers on a new course in a State Park? None will be sold to the public, just 18-20 made specifically for one course. Are there any patent infringements to worry about? Because it seems that the disc companies make most of their profits on the "back-end" through disc and other merchandise sales, would they be "miffed," or have cause to sue or anything? We are just looking to save a grand or two by going with a "variation" of the Discatcher. Is that so wrong...? :o
Yes.
There are patent issues to deal with.
disc19608
Oct 24 2004, 07:51 PM
Can someone please elaborate? What if the design is slightly different? And would they be approvable by the PDGA if all the applicable dimensions were adhered to? :confused:
The PDGA will approve the target as long as it meets specs. They (we) are not in the patent-enforcement business. Patents are typically enforced by litigation. If you put targets that violate patents in a public park you are risking litigation. I'll let the lawyers here advise you on risk.
The patent has run out on a basket w/ only outer chains, but inners chains is still under patent by dga. Most companys offer inner chains as a 'customer installed' upgrade.
'Sliders' where the chain hangs is under patent by strokesaver.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
A tire makes a great basket base, btw. There are a few ways to do it, but basicly you just cut out one sidewall and half of the other.
simple plans (http://www.centxdglove.com/basket.html)
I downloaded the plans from www.flyingdischunter.com (http://www.flyingdischunter.com)
The basket cost about $60, $20 of it coming from the download of the instructions and parts list. It's very easy to put together (I did it in two days on my lunch break, one day I shopped, the next day I built), very sturdy, and catches just about anything. I made a few variations in the design, and each new one I make is getting better and better.
I think Innova has a patent on their method of hanging inner chains as well.
Chris Hysell
Oct 25 2004, 05:54 PM
For cd's?
krupicka
Oct 26 2004, 02:28 PM
First off, IANAL
I would recommend reading the patents (http://www.discgolfassoc.com/patents.html) from the DGA website. The patents for the Mach I and Mach II should have expried. The Mach III patent won't expire til the end of 2007.
From what I can tell (but I would read them yourself), the patents cover
Mach I- basic design of a pole hole
Mach II- adding inner chains
Mach III - outer and inner chains crossing at the bottom
Mach V - inclined slot for chains to slid in.
disc19608
Oct 27 2004, 10:23 AM
Thanks for all your responses. I'm still a bit unsure, but it seems as if someone skilled in the art could fabricate a polehole that combines various features from these existing designs without inviting litigation. (?) Leaving out the inner chains (until the patent expires on them) and making minor, but unique design changes may be enough to avoid infringement. (?) A case in point is the "In-Step" basket. This basket is for sale to the public and incorporates many similar design features from its honorable predecessors. These proposed, "voluntarily produced" pole holes would not be sold but donated to the Club/Park for permanent installation. The poleholes would then become the property of the park. No person or group, but rather, the entire sport of discgolf would profit from the growth of the game in an otherwise "lost" discgolf community. We're not looking to create any strife, just to save mucho dineiro that we can then re-invest in our growing discgolf community. Rebuttals...? :confused: :o
as far as i know, you can copy any basket down to the smallest nut and put it in a public park for public use, as long as nobody receives any compensation of any kind, for it/them.
krupicka
Oct 27 2004, 02:05 PM
I have the InStep for putting practice at home. It only has one set of chains, but catches well enough. The only problem is the top is too large compared to the basket (actually it has the same diameter) so there a few bounceouts that would normally be caught by other baskets. I picked it up on Ebay for < $80 w/ shipping which made it a great buy compared to other baskets.
As for the patents, the Mach II patent (which added inner chains) has expired (last year I believe). The Mach III patent (where the inner chains hang lower at the bottom than the outer chains) is still in effect for a couple more years.