I think the subject says it all.

What do you use for driving, midrange and putting under windy conditions?

for wind in my face midrange approaches, I use a monster and put a huge bender on it for the skip approach... almost allways in short put range. Being a lefty, I aim pretty far left, and let the disc do the work. It takes a bit to get used to, but I use that a bunch.

For windy drives, I use a broke in beast or a DX teebird.

I use special golf Frisbees, designed for distance and accuracy.

A more detailed answer would be, it depends on windspeed, direction, and consistency. Specifically:

Putt

Wizard. Always.

Approach

Headwind - Champion Areo. Seriously. Thrown flat, with snap, the Aero will glide right in and drop near the basket. Just don't put any speed on it.

Tailwind - Wizard. Since you need to put a little more on the Wizard than the Aero, I find it's easier to overthrow when you're going into the wind. But its reduced glide means that the Wizard is a lot less likely to sail past with the wind behind it.

Crosswind - I hate crosswinds. Depending on distance, I'll either throw the Wizard (longer) or the Aero (shorter). The important thing is not to expose the bottom of the disc to the wind. If you do, you're on your way to Oz (as in the Wonderful Wizard, not the prison).

Midrange

I hardly throw midranges when it's really windy.

Drive

I throw almost all my drives forehand.

Headwind - Monster

Tailwind - X, Z Talons

Fairway Drives - Z Xtreme

Drivers :

Z Predator, for fast cut wind hyzer drives /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Z Crush, for straight to turnover shots ;)
X Predator, for straight to hyzer shots :cool:
Z Xtreme, for extreme conditions hyzers /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Mid-Range :

X or Z Wasp :cool:

Putt & Approach :

Pro D Challengers and Pro D hard Magnets ;)
Magnet for headwind Challenger for tail(Magnet will drop quicker)

I'm RHBH and I pluraled the disc names of the ones I tend to carry more than one of...from putters/short approaches, to mids, to drivers.

Headwinds & L > R winds - Rhynos, Demon G5i, new dx Roc, new dx Beast, KC-Ts, X-Pred, Champ F'Bird

Tailwinds & R > L winds - Aviars, dx Rocs, KC-Ts, TLs & Champ Beast

This is a very general working model...please do not dissect! :o:D

The same discs I usually use, only change the way you throw them.
Or a general rule is to "disc up" for head winds and "disc down" for tail winds. Example: Driving into the wind where you usually use a Valk use a TeeBird. Tailwind where you would usually use a TeeBird, use a Valk.
Headwinds make the disc less stable (easier to turnover), were Tailwinds make the disc more stable.
And if it is really, I mean really windy, just use a Firebird or Whippet, they will keep their regular characterics best.

But the real trick to playing in the wind is to practice in the wind and put lots of spin on the disc.
Cheers and good luck.
-Matt

new dx roc 180, champ tee, new dx beast. downwind i would use a beat roc, seasoned dx tee, or 150 dx beast

i'm lefty, so everything is like a mirror for most of you :D

Putts: stick with my hard magnet, windy or calm, 99.99% of the time. sometimes in insane headwinds i might use a sharp edged disc (aka driver), if the putt is 12 feet or shorter.

Midrange: probably go to the Buzzz for headwinds, but will also use a sharp edged disc for longer midrange shots. thats for a headwind. for tailwind, i go less and less stable, from the breeze to a beat up stratus to a putter.

note - using a big skip shot can work, but it sure does require more space than a straight shot! not to mention the variables introduced by putting it on the ground.

Drives: i tend to stick with the same basics - Crush, Flash, Wildcat, XL. For tailwinds of course, less stable is the obvious choice. For winds crossing TOWARDS the throwing arm, i love my flashes and crushes. a nice stiff wind coming from about 2 oclock is prolly my favorite overall wind (lefty, remember). perfect for maximum lift and disc controlability. For winds crossing away from the throwing arm, a nice flat flight, making sure not to turn it over. even a slight turnover in that kind of wind results in the disc taking a flight path that turns the crossing wind into a headwind - and further accentuates the turnover. bad news!

headwinds it depends on how much real estate is available and how much it matters where i land. for shorter drives (200-300), i love my crush. i know a lot of people say its too flippy, but i swear by it. throw it correctly and it will hold a nice flat line no problem. for insane headwinds, i'll probably go with the z-pred, altho it is not as long as my preferred drivers.

but overall, the longer i play the more it seems that just as critical, if not more so, under windy conditions is the flight plan you make for the disc. more and more i find myself as likely to set a different flight as i am to change the disc.

The same discs I usually use, only change the way you throw them.



I like that answer. Pretty much the same as mine, although I suppose I use my Aero and KC Aviar less in windy conditions. The wind plays too much with the Aero's glide, and apparently I haven't learned to putt with the KC Aviar except when it's calm. I use the approach disc to putt -- usually the Comet -- when it's windy.

Drives: X-Predator, PL-Monster
Mid: DX-Gator, X-Predator
Putt & Approach: Heavier Glo Aviar

PT Woods
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For strong headwinds I use a champion Banshee to drive, a very worn in Roc for mid-range, and still use my only putter, a Rhyno, to put. in tail winds I use my normal discs, just with the wind kept in mind while throwing.

How windy? Where does it blow from?

Let's say I throw my Viking on a slight downhill hole with no wind....with a little bit of headwind, I'd choose my Orc, with a lot of headwind, I would throw my Firebird. With tailwind, I'd choose a Beast, maybe a Valk.

For the midrange...you can throw a Z-Extreme into anything. I guess the demons are good discs too.

For putting....I am a little nervous using my challenger in windy conditions. I just switch to a gummy Spider.

Strong headwinds:

Z-Pred
X-Pred
Z-Xtreme
Z-Wasp

headwind drives- CE firebird
tailwind drives- beat candy beast
crosswind drives- whatever driver will turn into the wind

headwind mid- S demon
tailwind mid- KC roc
crosswind mid- whatever mid will turn into the wind

extreme tailwind putts- beat smallbead aviar
all other putts-spec ed rhyno

Where I live, we don't usually get winds over 15 mph so I just use my normal discs and adjust the angle on them, depending on the wind. If we do get some bigger gusts, I will usually just throw my X pred with angle or dust off my 177 Speed Demon!

180 Champ shark all the way baby!!! for 100-350 ft... over that Monster, under that Aviar (rhyno maybe if it's CRAZY windy)

O.K. yesterday was the perfect example for this scenario.
I was playing a little practice rnd. and the winds got up to about aprx. 30-40 mph. I live in D-town sothe winds arn't like that all the time. My bag is full of new plastic that I have recently converted to. Not quite sure what drivers do what in the big winds yet; however I can say that
my Speed Demon cuts through the wind like a champ, and not only that but I use for upshots to get a good skip at the basket(very over-stable).
There is one disc I use that I have never come across anyone else throw. (Champion Viper)
Considered a driver, to me it's more like a big mid-range
w/ the same flight characteristics of a Firebird.
So yesterday in practice I tried to turn an Orc over on a drive into a crosswind, but ended up putting too much hyzer on and fadeed out about 200 ft. from the hole, and way left.
Keep in mind the wind speed, I pull out my S.D. and throw an up shot that cuts right threw the wind like a good boy; but just happens to clip a branch that slapped it to the ground- about 50 or 60 ft. shy of the basket. Knowing the wind is whipping, theres know way I can throw a putter into this left to right crosswind, and expect to save par. So I throw the viper like a normal putter. The wind emediately turns it over but being so stable it finnaly comes back from a really big (s) and "BAM" hits chains. Hell of a par save for the windy conditions this day!

Vipers own! They are totally underrated!! Doesn't Ken Climo still use one?

Drive:Beast & Monster
Approach: Spider & Shark
Putt: Shark & Spider

Z-Pred
Z-Xtreme
X-Wasp
Pro-D Challenger

180 Champ shark all the way baby!!! for 100-350 ft...



You can throw a Shark 350 in the wind :eek: :confused:

downwind ;)

I don't know if he still does but the vipers he was using are superior to any today. He used to and possibly still does throw proto vipers. they are nothing like the vipers you get now. They are better plastic and a much better mold. they fly faster and are more stable and durable than current vipers.

depends on how strong the headwind, but yeah 350 ft' is about my max for champ sharks... They fight a head wind really well though, better than any other disc I've thrown before (including Rocs) but once again, that's just my opinion... :D

180 Champ shark all the way baby!!! for 100-350 ft...



You can throw a Shark 350 in the wind :eek: :confused:

I agree..

SPIRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It usually depends on how strong the wind is

Driver:
Slight headwind-- Champion Orc
Strong headdy, -KC Champion Firechicken,firechicken,fireChicken!
Tailwind - Champ Sidewinder or dx beast/Eagle

Midrange:
Headwind - Champ Leopard
Calm, Slight breeze,
Tailwind- KC Pro Roc

Putter - KC Pro Aviar, You mean they make other putters?

spirit, new hybrid, flat, black element, e wizard, brand new s for putting.

windy for me is 25+. I use firebirds and fl's into the wind, sidewinders and teebirds with the wind on my drives. midrange into the wind I throw a gator and with the wind a classic roc. putting into a strong headwind I'll throw a 180 roc and my normal omega ss with the wind. being rt handed I throw fl's with a lft to rt crosswind and the wraith on a rt to lft.

<table border="1"><tr><td>Headwind +15mph</td><td>Tailwind +15mph
</td></tr><tr><td>Challenger Pro-D</td><td>All putts</td><td>All putts
</td></tr><tr><td>Challenger Elite-Z</td><td>All approachase <150ft</td><td>All approaches <250ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Gator</td><td>All approaches 150-300ft</td><td>Not affected by tailwind
</td></tr><tr><td>Buzzz\'s (qty3)</td><td>#3 Buzzz for turnover shots <300ft</td><td>All shots <350ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Wasps (qty2)</td><td>All shots <350ft</td><td>All shots <350ft turning left
</td></tr><tr><td>Leopard SE</td><td>Rollers</td><td>Rollers
</td></tr><tr><td>Leopard </td><td>Extreme turnovers</td><td>Slow turnovers
</td></tr><tr><td>XL</td><td>turnovers 300-375ft</td><td>Straight shots 300-375ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Reaper</td><td>Straight shots 300-375ft</td><td>Left fading shots 300-375ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Predator</td><td>Hyzer shots 300-350ft</td><td>Hyzer Shots 300-350ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Beast</td><td>Turnovers >375ft</td><td>Straight shots >375ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Avenger</td><td>Straight shots >375ft</td><td>Left fading shots >375ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Wraith</td><td>Straight shots >400ft</td><td>Not used in tailwind conitions
</td></tr><tr><td>Firebird</td><td>Straight Shots >400ft (if wind >25mph)</td><td>Extereme fades 350-400ft
</td></tr><tr><td>Extreme</td><td>Skip shot master (not affected by wind)</td><td>Skip shot master(not affected by wind)
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

If wind is less then 15mph, then it really does not affect my play too much except for angle of release.

SPIRITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



No [I'm a potty-mouth!]!!!!!

E-Spirit or E-Speed Demon...depending upon how windy it is.

depends on how strong the headwind, but yeah 350 ft' is about my max for champ sharks... They fight a head wind really well though, better than any other disc I've thrown before (including Rocs) but once again, that's just my opinion... :D



hmmhmm...

I know that when there is a big headwind, I can throw my 135g Orions about 750'

a firebird and then sometimes i throw another firebird.

Overstable roc or shark
monster or banchee
wraith to flip into wind for long range

Predator

Firebird...predictable flight anytime (shorter throws)
Heavy Orc...great into wind for a longer, straighter flight

Predator



Is that like child predator ? :p

Flat 174 Orc.

monster!!

This weekend I played a tournament and the wind was absolutely horrendous.

This tournament was held at a ball golf course that has tons of elevation. So there was plenty of long drives to be done. I used wraiths, orcs, monsters, etc. for headwind drives. Then for tailwind drives (and im talking 35 knot tailwinds) I used a roadrunner or a starfire (both light weights). It worked great, but everyone else in my group had no idea why I was doing it.

Venom

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Venom <font color="red">=The illusion but in D plastic </font>





SpeedDemon or Spirit !!!! Those will not turn over !!!! :eek:

Yeah they will. I have a speed demon in my bag for ANNIES. :o

OK ..................Candy Firebird or Candy Monster !!!

I am to drunk to read through all so I will put it like this:
10-15 Orc
15-20 Stable Orc
20-25 Preadator
25-30 Hopeing for the the best

In Hays, Kansas at the Frontier Open in September, we played in 35-50mph winds...SUSTAINED! My best friends were a brand new 172 DX Firebird & a 172 Proline Firebird.

174 Z Pred

Nuff Said!!!

174 Z Pred

Nuff Said!!!



I like my 150g stratus, holds up in any wind.

My normal bag.

175g ch firebird if the wind is over 20mph...

Otherwise I can get by with a stable orc, or pro firebird or star wraith depending on whats in my bag for the day

174 Z Pred

Nuff Said!!!



I like my 150g stratus, holds up in any wind.


You should try a low-weight, beaten up Optimizer. Holds a 400' hyzer in ANY headwind.

174 Z Pred

Nuff Said!!!



I like my 150g stratus, holds up in any wind.


You should try a low-weight, beaten up Optimizer. Holds a 400' hyzer in ANY headwind.


An optimizer is not quite overstable enough, go with the Maximizer!

We're in the 3rd straight day of Santa Ana conditions here, and I relish throwing my Aero in these conditions....it seems to fly 'through' the wind, rather than 'with' it, more than anything I've used. I certainly don't gravitate to the overstable, though I will tend to use an overhand roller [Firebird] if the wind is copacetic.

Using an Aero for everything is my particular way of 'dealing' with the concept of "lowering expectations", due to the elements.