As a 2004 Worlds Preview, I took the guys with the top 25 ratings, and got their average round and standard deviation since 1/1/2003. Then I ran it through my tournament simulator for 9 rounds (8 rounds plus a semi), and got the following results.

I will try to do this again with 2004 data only, after the next Ratings update.

Though odds are shown, this is just for fun. Please, no wagering.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Last</td><td>First</td><td>Rating</td><td>% Win</td><td>Odds</td><td>AveRound</td><td>StDev
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz</td><td>Barry</td><td>1038</td><td>42.1%</td><td>2:1</td><td>1032</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Climo</td><td>Ken</td><td>1037</td><td>23.4%</td><td>4:1</td><td>1029</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Kallstrom</td><td>Markus</td><td>1030</td><td>12.5%</td><td>8:1</td><td>1024</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Rico</td><td>Steve</td><td>1028</td><td>8.3%</td><td>12:1</td><td>1024</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Dorius</td><td>Micah</td><td>1023</td><td>3.0%</td><td>33:1</td><td>1019</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>Jarvis</td><td>Ken</td><td>1021</td><td>2.0%</td><td>50:1</td><td>1017</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Todd</td><td>Cameron</td><td>1027</td><td>1.7%</td><td>59:1</td><td>1017</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>Pursio</td><td>Timo</td><td>1021</td><td>1.1%</td><td>91:1</td><td>1018</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>Russell</td><td>Ron</td><td>1023</td><td>0.8%</td><td>125:1</td><td>1016</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>Randolph</td><td>Mike</td><td>1019</td><td>0.8%</td><td>125:1</td><td>1011</td><td>27
</td></tr><tr><td>Haney</td><td>Walter</td><td>1019</td><td>0.7%</td><td>143:1</td><td>1014</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Anthon</td><td>Josh</td><td>1019</td><td>0.6%</td><td>167:1</td><td>1011</td><td>28
</td></tr><tr><td>Musick</td><td>Bobby</td><td>1017</td><td>0.6%</td><td>167:1</td><td>1010</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>McCray Jr</td><td>John E.</td><td>1018</td><td>0.5%</td><td>200:1</td><td>1012</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Leonard</td><td>Larry</td><td>1013</td><td>0.5%</td><td>200:1</td><td>1005</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Schweberger</td><td>Brian</td><td>1016</td><td>0.3%</td><td>333:1</td><td>1008</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Martin</td><td>Scott</td><td>1016</td><td>0.3%</td><td>333:1</td><td>1008</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>McDaniel</td><td>Stan</td><td>1018</td><td>0.2%</td><td>500:1</td><td>1014</td><td>19
</td></tr><tr><td>Hammock</td><td>Brad</td><td>1016</td><td>0.2%</td><td>500:1</td><td>1010</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Lundmark</td><td>Jesper</td><td>1016</td><td>0.1%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1007</td><td>28
</td></tr><tr><td>Brinster</td><td>Steve</td><td>1013</td><td>0.1%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1005</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Feldberg</td><td>David</td><td>1013</td><td>0.1%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1006</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Gill</td><td>Timmy</td><td>1012</td><td>0.1%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1003</td><td>28
</td></tr><tr><td>Moser</td><td>Mike</td><td>1015</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1008</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>Ginnelly</td><td>Dan</td><td>1020</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>1007</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

I'm thinking Jesper is worth putting a 20 on because he's been in the final before and his odds are staggering.

Here are the women. I required greater than 3 rounds to have been recorded since 1/1/2003 to make the list.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Last</td><td>First</td><td>Rating</td><td>% Wins</td><td>Win Odds</td><td>AveRound</td><td>StDev
</td></tr><tr><td>Korver</td><td>Juliana</td><td>951</td><td>36.3%</td><td>3:1</td><td>943</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Lagerholm</td><td>Birgitta</td><td>946</td><td>27.4%</td><td>4:1</td><td>940</td><td>29
</td></tr><tr><td>Reading</td><td>Des</td><td>949</td><td>24.5%</td><td>4:1</td><td>940</td><td>28
</td></tr><tr><td>King</td><td>Elaine</td><td>940</td><td>7.6%</td><td>13:1</td><td>931</td><td>32
</td></tr><tr><td>Herndon</td><td>Lesli</td><td>938</td><td>3.3%</td><td>30:1</td><td>928</td><td>30
</td></tr><tr><td>Ross</td><td>Nikki</td><td>914</td><td>0.5%</td><td>200:1</td><td>925</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Berlogar</td><td>Carrie</td><td>931</td><td>0.2%</td><td>500:1</td><td>920</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td>Cosgrove</td><td>Nadine</td><td>925</td><td>0.2%</td><td>500:1</td><td>916</td><td>32
</td></tr><tr><td>Steele</td><td>Ruth</td><td>927</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>919</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Kreml</td><td>Anni</td><td>925</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>918</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Dolan</td><td>Tuffi</td><td>915</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>911</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>Weidle</td><td>Kristen</td><td>913</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>905</td><td>33
</td></tr><tr><td>Allen</td><td>Jennifer</td><td>908</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>901</td><td>31
</td></tr><tr><td>White</td><td>Barrett</td><td>910</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>902</td><td>29
</td></tr><tr><td>Hendricks</td><td>Nancy</td><td>903</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>901</td><td>29
</td></tr><tr><td>Renner</td><td>Debbie</td><td>909</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>902</td><td>27
</td></tr><tr><td>Tschiggfrie</td><td>Angela</td><td>905</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>897</td><td>29
</td></tr><tr><td>Stephens</td><td>Susan</td><td>906</td><td>0.0%</td><td>1000:1</td><td>894</td><td>32
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Rhett, I've got you down for a Jackson on Jesper.

How about past champ and 1027 rated Cam Todd at 59:1? I'll take a piece of that.

I also calced % finishes in the top 3 and top 10, but didn't know how to turn them into odds. I wouldn't make much of a bookie.

four boys from calif. :D

I'll put $10 each on these, but I think most of the action will be on the top 2 :)

Todd Cameron 1027 1.7% 59:1 1017 24
Russell Ron 1023 0.8% 125:1

What are the odds on the Kenny, Barry, Cam TRI-FECTA!!!!!?

:D

I think we might need to hold off on virtual wagering until the next ratings update comes out about the 19th.

Rodney, that's pretty cool, but you may want to redo the odds as a function of the percentages. For example 50% wins is 1:1, 40% win is 3:2, 33% win is 2:1; 25% is 3:1, etc.

Take the 2:1 shot for example that wins 33% of the time. I bet you $100 (you're giving me 2:1) and lose. I'm down $100.

I bet another $100, I lose again. I am now down $200.

The third time I win (since 33% success rate). I get $200 back from you to make the whole betting sequence a push.

ps. At the track it is a little different because I pay my $100 up front and get $300 back ($200 winnings and my $100 bet) still making the whole sequence a push. Sorry to be anal, but I want you to be a successful bookmaker. :D

Hey James, I figured out on my drive home that I messed that up. I realized that 2:1 meant 2 back plus my original bet.

I'll try to get it right after the July update. I may be able to figure the Top 3 and Top 10 by then too, but I'm going to have to "study" this gambling thing a bit more.

Rodney,

How about doing a similar analysis for the Ams? Use the same formulas, etc., for those players currently registered...

My money's on Portland's own Brody Miller... Last weekend, at the Ft. Steilacoom SuperTour, he shot an 11 down to win Advanced (his 4th win of the season, to go along with two second place finishes). That score would have earned him 7th ($200) in Open. And he did qualify for the USDGC with that score!

-Theo

I want to know what my odds of finally claiming some Worlds merch are in OMB this year.

I mean the kind of merch you win. I have plenty of stuff I bought in my previous two appearances. :)

Well I am from Wisconsin, which is known for breeding champions. I would say there are 2 players I can think of that have an excellent chance of taking it. First choice would be Larry Lempen #18764 and second choice would be Pat Blake #21310 from Illinois. Both players have cannon for arms. Larry I would say has to be one of the best AM lefty throwers out there. Pat can just have continuous hot rounds that amaze you. We will see!

This will be my first AM Worlds Event. I am so excited!

My money's on Portland's own Brody Miller...


I will take you up on that Theo, but my money is on Justin Jernigan. The kid took 10th at a NT (played open, but didnt take the cash), and qualified for the USDGC with that score. But here is the kicker. His bag got stolen the day before the tournament started, and he used borrowed disc.

I would also like to know the odds on the Ams.

8:09am Eastern 7/9/4 - They just announced the odds on the WFNZ-AM show "The Morning Sports Page" in Charlotte. They said they had just been sent the odds for the frisbee golf World Championships via e-mail, and Barry Schultz was the favorite to win the men, and Juliana Korver the favorite for the women.

Now I wonder who sent them that e-mail??

Korver or Sinclair?

Either one could win, who are you picking?

I want to know what my odds of finally claiming some Worlds merch are in OMB this year.




With 102 OMBs currently registered, Rhett has a
0% chance of winning
3% chance of making the top 10
44% chance of making the top 40, which makes the semi-finals, and probably merches

Theo has a
0% chance of winning
1% chance of making the top 10
32% chance of making the top 40

How about doing a similar analysis for the Ams? Use the same formulas, etc., for those players currently registered...




We'll have to check this again after the next ratings update.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>Odds
</td></tr><tr><td>Justin Jernigan</td><td>3:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Sexton</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Schmidt</td><td>8:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bryan Vagi</td><td>14:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Sean Butler</td><td>30:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Robbins</td><td>28:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Cannek</td><td>32:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jere Eshelman</td><td>52:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Slater</td><td>49:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ryan Lane</td><td>66:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Hidekatsu Sakai</td><td>76:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Josh Sappenfield</td><td>76:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Aleksey Boobs Bubis</td><td>76:1
</td></tr><tr><td>DJ Hunt</td><td>249:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ty Parrish</td><td>166:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Miguel Ramos III</td><td>142:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Colin Evans</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Rimrodt</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Snyder</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Brown</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Lang</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Lockwood</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brody Miller</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Munk</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Korver or Sinclair?



She's still using Korver.

I'll put $50 on Aleskey Bubis at those odds. :D

Why is Coda not listed?

Why is Coda not listed?



Not registered.

Because he is a dumbazz kid. He doesn't know what the he11 he wants to do. I think he is getting too much advice from outside sources.

He will be there. Probably 1 to 2 odds for him. I think he has 10 wins in a row. Most of them by double digits. He won an unsactioned tournament last weekend in Pro against Mitch McClellan and a few other top Oklahoma Pros.

Basically 50-50 for merching? Dang, I was hoping I would be a lock. :)

I like that I have a 200% better chance of making the top-10 than Theo does.

0% chance of winning kind of stings though. Sounds right, but you didn't have to say it out loud.

Rhett,

I'm sure it's not really 0%. Just have Rodney calculate it out to 10 or 12 places... /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

-Theo

Rodney, whats my chances?

1 and how many zeros to 1?


(I'm 930)

i got five on rhett to beat thoe at worlds :D

Rhett,

I'm sure it's not really 0%. Just have Rodney calculate it out to 10 or 12 places... /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

-Theo



Theo,

I was thinking the same thing, only I was thinking only 3 or 4 decimals would have been necessary... :o

BTW, I am looking forward to meeting you in IA, as well as seeing how long Rhett's hair has become!

Rodney, whats my chances?

1 and how many zeros to 1?


(I'm 930)



Let's wait until after the ratings update in a week or two.

You should also do this for Juniors <19...Wink Wink Wink...

Adv Masters too.

Brad H will has a 0% chance of winning the World Championships. Impossible to win it in the Masters Division...

BTW, I am looking forward to meeting you in IA, as well as seeing how long Rhett's hair has become!



picture cousin it and you have rhett :D

BTW, I am looking forward to meeting you in IA, as well as seeing how long Rhett's hair has become!



picture cousin it and you have rhett :D



:D


With Rhett being a little more articulate... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

:eek:

I like Brody Miller too, He beat Brad Hammock, Dave Feldberg and the whole entire field at the Great Northwest Open with no one pushing him at all in the advanced division. Juniors belongs to Dario Re of team Gateway. What a humble and pleasant guy to be around, he acts like he's 30 even though he's a 6'2 16 year old who can throw 500 feet like its an after thought. He's the same to play with whether he's shooting the course record or playing the worst round of his life.

Justin is the man to bring the title back to North Carolina. He played the USDGC last year and cashed (declined of course) against all of the top pros. He finished higher than any other am ever has at that event.

As far as Dario goes, I used to live in seattle and played with him on a number of occasions as an intermediate and he is a class act. I would never count out Caleb Wood from High Point, NC. He finished second last year and is one of the hottest lefties in NC.

I think North Caorlina has a good chance to take the Open (Walt Haney is on fire right now), Advanced (Justin could have been taking cash since last year but he wanted the Am championship), Junior <19 (Caleb has been one consistent golfer over the last 12 months, if he strings together 9 good rounds I don't think Dario can keep up.)

Go NC, oh yeah, WA is cool as well in my book!

Don't forget Advanced Masters, Wit is tearing it up lately. He has a good chance to win and I would be surprised if he weren't in the finals. He has a good support crew as well. That's a good thing to have.

I'm Wit ya Matt on this one.. imagine we actually agree :confused: He has my vote!!! :D

BTW....Congrats on that new baby girl!!!!! :)

Sorry I thought that he was playing advanced, after he kicked all our [*****]e$ at the points bonanza

I think WI has a good chance of winning more divisions that NC :)

TEAM NC SAYS BRING IT

I bet that the avg finish of NC golfers will be better than WI

And we will win 2 or 3 divisions

I say WI will win Men's Open and Am Women. ( that's about it though )
WI has 3 players in the top 10 for cash in Open, NC only has 2 :D

I'd say KY chances are good again for MPG and FPG. They won both Am titles last year, too, for a GM sweep. Are the same Am GMs back this year?

NC has a shot at these divisions (these are legit picks, no jokes)

Pro Open
Cam Todd
Walt Haney
Schweb
McRee

Pro Master
Larry Leonard

Pro Legends
Ted Williams

ADV Open
JJ
Jason Land
Jeff Yahn

Adv. Masters
Craig Whitney

Adv. Women
Monica Livingston

Jr U 19
Caleb Wood

Jr. U 10
David Wiggins


And this list doesnt even include people like me (rated 930) in adv. and people in the open that are around a 1000 rated (Mike Hoffman, Dave McQuay)

North Carolina come on and raise up. Take yo shirt off, waive it round you head like a helicopter!!!!

North Carolina come on and raise up. Take yo shirt off, waive it round you head like a helicopter!!!!



YEAH

Come on Heeren, How many raps have been written about wisconsin?

Come on Heeren, How many raps have been written about wisconsin?


Maybe that song "Wankster" by 50 cent was. :eek:
Yo Heeren, DEP4LIFE!! And you know this... MAN!

Come on Heeren, How many raps have been written about wisconsin?


Maybe that song "Wankster" by 50 cent was. :eek:
Yo Heeren, DEP4LIFE!! And you know this... MAN!



So I was having a drink of water while I read that and now I have to wipe all the water up that I just spit everywhere

Is Ted doing OK because he's not on the Legend reg list?

I saw Ted at a tournament in Asheville NC, near his home. While he did not play, he seemed to be in good health.

Seems like I saw his name on a tournament results lately, but I cant remember which one. I hope all is well with the "Splendid Splinter". (if you dont know anything about baseball, then you wouldnt know why I called Ted the "Splendid Splinter". That was the boston red sox Ted Williams nick name. Nevermind, I am ramblin)

You wanna talk masters, I'm going with Doug Salter of Portland Oregon, he has won 12 world titles as an ultimate player and will kick butt this year, since he has been turning down cash since the beginning of last year, and grand masters champ just may be Dario's father Stimpi Steve Simmons he is very tall and can throw a long way with very little effort. He putts very well and has every shot in his bag, he can also play with the open players.

NC has a shot at these divisions (these are legit picks, no jokes)

Pro Open
McRee




Is there more than one McRee, or are you talking about Brian McRee, the guy who has played 18 tournaments this year with only one win (and it was a C-tier) and only 6 top 5 finishes? That McRee? That's the one that is a legit no joke pick to win Worlds? Okay. :p

I was listing all the 1000+ rated players from NC that woud be competeing

And that wasn't your average C Tier. Here in NC we have something called competition. He beat players such as Schweb, Walt Haney, Larry Leonard, just to name a few

I was listing all the 1000+ rated players from NC that woud be competeing




Oh, okay, I thought you were listing your legit no joke picks of Open players with a shot to win Worlds. Sorry my bad.

Next time you want to list the players over 1000, you should say "here are the players over 1000" instead of saying "NC has a shot at these divisions (these are legit picks, no jokes)". :p

Or if you think McRee "has a shot" then go ahead and explain how a guy who shoots 1 in 6 rounds over 1030 is supposed to AVERAGE 1030 for 9 rounds. :p

Brian, We in NC are pulling for you and all the crew to make us proud. Just like you always do! :D

Well the PDGA doesn't show you as current so I couldn't see how many rounds over 1000 you have period much less over 1030. Anyone rated over 1000 always has a shot to pull off an "upset?".

Everyone is forgetting Coral in the <16 junior division as well. Add one more division for NC!!

Well the PDGA doesn't show you as current so I couldn't see how many rounds over 1000 you have period much less over 1030.



I have no idea what my playing ability has to do with McRee's shot at winning Worlds, but you NC guys seems to live in your own world. :p

The knock was not on McRee, he's a great player and a heck of a guy. The knock is on the overzealous posting of the unrealistic.


Anyone rated over 1000 always has a shot to pull off an "upset?".



You actually bring up a great question here. :D

When was the last time that the Open Men or Open Women winner at Worlds was an UPSET?

I have no idea. Was Ken's first win an upset? I doubt if any of the rest his were. I'll bet Cam and Ron were pretty close to Ken in rating when they won, and Barry certainly wasn't an upset. :D

Was Juliana an upset the first time she won? I doubt it. Was Des an upset when she won? Again I doubt it based on how they were playing at the time.

Many top players have a chance at 3 and 4 round tournaments. But when it comes down to 8 and 9 rounds to decide the winner, upsets apparently don't happen very often, if ever. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :eek: :o:D

Worlds 1999 Climo = 1031 Ron = 1022
Worlds 2001 Climo = 1028 Cam = 1022
Worlds 2003 Climo = 1040 Barry = 1035

Upsets but not really upsets.

Only 1999 IMO since that was the end of the long run of consecutive championships from Climo, and even then you would be hard pressed to call it an upset. Ron was at the top EVERY week.

I am from NC, and as much as I'd like to say NC will win every division, I have to agree with Hawk on this one. There is a reason Ken has won 11 of the last 14 worlds, and thats because he is the best to ever play. The top 5 players in the world don't have many bad rounds, but if they happen to have one in the worlds, they have 7-8 rounds to make up for it. Realistically there are probably only about 10 guys that have a legitimate chance. If it were a regular 4 round tournament then you could probably expand the list to about 50-75 players.

My "upset" pick for this year is Kevin McCoy.

ron russell.

My "upset" pick for this year is Kevin McCoy.



How "upset" are you about picking Kev?

My "upset" pick for this year is Kevin McCoy.



How "upset" are you about picking Kev?



Well, I was very "upset" to see 1 round take him out of the running last year. He was in 2nd when that storm hit them on Snowbowl.

Come on Jody you cannot bet against Cackalacy!!!

Maybe on the down low, but in a public forum, I'm shocked. :D

Sorry Coral, SC baby

Farm Life Rules!!!

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he took cash at the riverside glide



what are you talking about?

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yeah, I know about all that. but what does this have to do with THIS thread?

sorry wrong board

ok Rodney - I moved up to 933, so how long of a shot am I to take the title home?

ok Rodney - I moved up to 933, so how long of a shot am I to take the title home?



I'll re-do the odds after one more registration update, or maybe after registration closes, using only the people registered. Several large names are missing (Ron Russell, Rico x 2, Herndon), and I want to include them if they're playing.

im talking ams

im talking ams



I know Robert, sorry I wasn't clear. Just as in the Pros, I'm sure there some Ams that aren't registered yet. Give everybody a couple more days to get registered, then let the wagering begin.

hey rodney your gonna run this after monday right?

You got it, man. We gotta get some action going. BDH posted that the final registered list will be about Thursday, so the odds might have to wait until then. I'm chomping at the bit, but figure we might as well wait an include everybody that's playing.

You NC guys would be doing even better if someone would drag Eric "The Legend" Marx out of his house make him practice about three rounds and send him to Worlds! :)

Thursday is fine by me after they post'em. That still give us a week.....

I would really like to see where Eric "The Legend" Marx woud rank too. Know him well and wonder how he (and family) are doing. I get to play with another one of his oldest buddies Robbie Hendrick. I know he sends a "hello".

On another note, other divisions... I would be interested in knowing what the "odds" are running in Master Women's division (of course). And all divisions for that matter. Was looking forward to this Worlds as maybe "the one", but other duties (media relations and marshalling juniors!!) have called. Besides...I'm bringing my own "junior" this year...for the "experience" of it all. See you all in IOWA!!

Andi! Funny that I'll see more of you in IA than in TX! I'm bringing my own junior too, but he will be hanging out with me while I'm playing instead of him playing juniors. He's got a PDGA number and everything, but my wife and I weren't comfortable with him out there without one of us.

Enjoy hanging around with your Jr, and I'll see you at the players' meeting Sunday night!

ps I first got my butt kicked by Eric Marx in the spring of 1978; geez I'm getting old... :(

Hey Exczar! You will see more of me in Iowa than in Texas. Actually, isn't that where we (you, Reptile and I) first met and hung out. It was '89 Worlds and Kenny was just a rookie "whipper snapper" there at his first World's with his friend C.R. Wiley. I remember their cute apprehensive faces at the putting contest.

Hey, if I would of known about your boy going with you, he could of played. I'll be spending part of my time Marshalling the Junior divisions during the week when I'm not addressing media activities. Part of me "wishes" I was playing, ahh but there's always next year. And the next, and the next...

See you there!

*** Official Worlds Odds ***

For entertainment only. Please, no wagering.

MPO and FPO below. Other divisions to follow. The large number of participants is killing the bookies.

MPO:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals
</td></tr><tr><td>Barry Schultz</td><td>1:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ken Climo</td><td>5:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Ken Jarvis</td><td>11:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Randolph</td><td>20:1</td><td>5:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Markus Kallstrom</td><td>25:1</td><td>5:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Cameron Todd</td><td>29:1</td><td>5:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Rico</td><td>36:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Micah Dorius</td><td>90:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Walter Haney</td><td>99:1</td><td>10:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John E. McCray</td><td>142:1</td><td>6:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ron Russell</td><td>199:1</td><td>8:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Feldberg</td><td>199:1</td><td>20:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Warren</td><td>333:1</td><td>17:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Heeren</td><td>333:1</td><td>27:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Brinster</td><td>999:1</td><td>21:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Schweberger</td><td>999:1</td><td>21:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Timmy Gill</td><td>999:1</td><td>57:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Shawn Sinclair</td><td>999:1</td><td>58:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin McCoy</td><td>999:1</td><td>75:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joshua Anthon</td><td>999:1</td><td>76:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Doss</td><td>999:1</td><td>82:1
</td></tr><tr><td>George Smith</td><td>999:1</td><td>142:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nolan Grider</td><td>999:1</td><td>166:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Thomas Erlandsson</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Aaron Wield</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Todd Branch</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eric McCabe</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Any Others</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Exotic bets:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Order</td><td>Odds
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz/Climo any order</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz,Climo</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Climo,Schultz</td><td>10:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz,Climo,Jarvis</td><td>32:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

FPO:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals
</td></tr><tr><td>Des Reading</td><td>3:2</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Juliana Korver</td><td>2:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Birgitta Lagerholm</td><td>3:1</td><td>1:5
</td></tr><tr><td>Elaine King</td><td>39:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lesli Herndon</td><td>46:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Carrie Burl Berlogar</td><td>54:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ruth Steele</td><td>499:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nadine Cosgrove</td><td>499:1</td><td>11:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Anni Kreml</td><td>999:1</td><td>11:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Any Others</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Exotic bets:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Odds</td><td>Order
</td></tr><tr><td>2:1</td><td>Reading/Korver any order
</td></tr><tr><td>4:1</td><td>Reading,Korver
</td></tr><tr><td>6:1</td><td>Korver,Reading
</td></tr><tr><td>8:1</td><td>Reading,Korver,Lagerholm
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

By the way, there's nothing "official" about the odds. In case there was any doubt.

I'm thinking 199:1 on Feldberg and 999:1 on Gill are definitely worth a $20 flyer each.

20 grand for risking 20 bucks on the guy who won the Memorial? That sounds like a good bet!

Not bad 333:1!! that means if I play 332 more worlds I might actually win one! :D

Excellent job Rodney. The finals and exotic odds are a really nice touch. :)

It's ashame that it's just for fun, cause I'd love to walk up to the windows to place some bets. :D

Advanced Men odds:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>PDGA#</td><td>Rating</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals</td><td>Semis
</td></tr><tr><td>Justin Jernigan</td><td>22284</td><td>986</td><td>1:5</td><td>Off</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>David M. Shaw</td><td>22953</td><td>985</td><td>6:1</td><td>1:9</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Brody Miller</td><td>5222</td><td>966</td><td>45:1</td><td>4:3</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jere Eshelman</td><td>21683</td><td>957</td><td>75:1</td><td>2:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Sean Butler</td><td>22076</td><td>963</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Sexton</td><td>18824</td><td>967</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Aleksey Boobs Bubis</td><td>22722</td><td>957</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Schmidt</td><td>16799</td><td>967</td><td>999:1</td><td>6:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Bryan Vagi</td><td>23985</td><td>966</td><td>999:1</td><td>7:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Snyder</td><td>20697</td><td>953</td><td>999:1</td><td>11:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ryan Lane</td><td>19359</td><td>961</td><td>999:1</td><td>12:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Zak Martin</td><td>21909</td><td>957</td><td>999:1</td><td>17:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Brown</td><td>23091</td><td>956</td><td>999:1</td><td>17:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Patrick Blake</td><td>21310</td><td>955</td><td>999:1</td><td>22:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Josh Romine</td><td>20306</td><td>954</td><td>999:1</td><td>23:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Josh Sappenfield</td><td>20214</td><td>962</td><td>999:1</td><td>39:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Kelly Babbit</td><td>13787</td><td>959</td><td>999:1</td><td>70:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Tommy Hodges</td><td>12748</td><td>952</td><td>999:1</td><td>75:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Miguel Ramos III</td><td>9208</td><td>950</td><td>999:1</td><td>82:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>David Cannek</td><td>17125</td><td>957</td><td>999:1</td><td>90:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ty Parrish</td><td>12897</td><td>953</td><td>999:1</td><td>90:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Tomasaitis</td><td>24218</td><td>948</td><td>999:1</td><td>90:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Steven Hemmeline</td><td>23569</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>99:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Adam Weaks</td><td>21170</td><td>956</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Despenas</td><td>20225</td><td>949</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerrad Chaney</td><td>20422</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>David Centofanti</td><td>22724</td><td>949</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Medalia</td><td>20146</td><td>931</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Land</td><td>20353</td><td>945</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Slater</td><td>20695</td><td>956</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Lang</td><td>15928</td><td>948</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Randy Cox</td><td>22104</td><td>947</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Hidekatsu Sakai</td><td>3621</td><td>954</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Dustin Champlin</td><td>20740</td><td>946</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Chad Larson</td><td>20532</td><td>936</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Casey Beaumont</td><td>18994</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:7
</td></tr><tr><td>Kurt Powers</td><td>16773</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Costa</td><td>17414</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>Keith Amerson</td><td>14856</td><td>948</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>David Kerkove</td><td>17254</td><td>939</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>DJ Hunt</td><td>16144</td><td>947</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Lonhart</td><td>20786</td><td>946</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Colin Evans</td><td>19629</td><td>948</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Robbins</td><td>22506</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Jake Bowen</td><td>20629</td><td>945</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Tod Abrahamson</td><td>18490</td><td>943</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Robbins</td><td>17319</td><td>954</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Larry Kempen</td><td>18764</td><td>948</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Rob Merkel</td><td>16448</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>John Cavaletto</td><td>19070</td><td>940</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Lockwood</td><td>18417</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Simon Skenandore</td><td>19769</td><td>927</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark McAlister</td><td>16672</td><td>942</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Yahn</td><td>20914</td><td>946</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ernie Westmark</td><td>21627</td><td>934</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Caleb Wolfe</td><td>24211</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Webb</td><td>20850</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Timothy Messer</td><td>20096</td><td>939</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Harbour</td><td>21464</td><td>936</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eddie McCulley</td><td>21251</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Metzler</td><td>17065</td><td>938</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bryan Bennett</td><td>19792</td><td>928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brad Junnila</td><td>22944</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Gabbard</td><td>18594</td><td>932</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matthew McCarley</td><td>19133</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Daniel Corbett</td><td>17354</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Ekvall</td><td>21822</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Darrell J. Lambrecht</td><td>20673</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerry Urban</td><td>23110</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Harwell</td><td>24684</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Fred Vroman</td><td>22740</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Rimrodt</td><td>19871</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Homan</td><td>17491</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brad Guidera</td><td>17294</td><td>938</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Stephen Crow</td><td>21362</td><td>932</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Hansen</td><td>20187</td><td>934</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Sean Currier</td><td>19579</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kyle McClure</td><td>21238</td><td>941</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Peckham</td><td>21325</td><td>938</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Fernando Brown</td><td>20093</td><td>928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Boo Pearson</td><td>13723</td><td>937</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Facine</td><td>16544</td><td>928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chad Kawaminami</td><td>19939</td><td>935</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Walsh</td><td>18991</td><td>932</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Aaron Lindsley</td><td>24317</td><td>927</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jamie Mosier</td><td>17591</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Patrick Baumunk</td><td>22270</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert J. Leonard</td><td>21676</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Bazan</td><td>17861</td><td>930</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ernie Davis</td><td>18834</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chad Inman</td><td>14553</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Wojcik</td><td>19608</td><td>927</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Stibal</td><td>20114</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Barr</td><td>13788</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Master Lee Cronkhite</td><td>10726</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chase Roberts</td><td>20460</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tony McGibbon</td><td>14768</td><td>932</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Justin Ashton</td><td>23087</td><td>930</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mickey Pennington</td><td>18104</td><td>930</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Greg Bilous</td><td>15696</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Allind</td><td>21568</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David William Leeds</td><td>23666</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Peterson</td><td>19509</td><td>934</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Aaron Saft</td><td>16958</td><td>928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eddie Ogburn</td><td>23102</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ben Mayben</td><td>20215</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Daryl Culver</td><td>15196</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Borden</td><td>19060</td><td>920</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Charles Bennett</td><td>11882</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Smith</td><td>13366</td><td>927</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>6:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Conners</td><td>18446</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>6:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Tomlinson</td><td>21823</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>7:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joel Greer</td><td>23663</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>7:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Wondra</td><td>20610</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>8:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Evan Sjostrom</td><td>19787</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>8:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brett Comincioli</td><td>19325</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dusty Rodiek</td><td>19482</td><td>928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bryan Yondolino</td><td>17667</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Mills</td><td>23516</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert Wynne</td><td>17117</td><td>920</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brandon Boone</td><td>24512</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Samuel Aldrich</td><td>22055</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Buono</td><td>19987</td><td>920</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>10:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Sean Bleything</td><td>24060</td><td>920</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>10:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Bayless</td><td>6352</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>11:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Waters</td><td>20175</td><td>925</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>12:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Lacey</td><td>17429</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Sonny Liston</td><td>22021</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Aaron Brooker</td><td>20579</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Rotan</td><td>13827</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>15:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Christopher Mattison</td><td>25061</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>15:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ron R.F. Huspen</td><td>20000</td><td>927</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>16:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jody White</td><td>20797</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>18:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Peter Wilkin</td><td>17037</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>19:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Allen Bergey</td><td>17842</td><td>906</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>19:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Fred Alberts</td><td>19760</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>21:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Travis Sauls</td><td>20237</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>22:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Holmquist</td><td>17255</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>22:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Murphy</td><td>16194</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>24:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Drew Napper</td><td>22846</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>25:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Anthony Martinez</td><td>24057</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>26:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Bassman</td><td>19984</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>27:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Orlouski</td><td>12015</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>28:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Thusius</td><td>19139</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>29:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Wilder</td><td>17523</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>32:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Michler</td><td>17103</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>33:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Benesch</td><td>22455</td><td>905</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>33:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kurt K. Trepins</td><td>20478</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>34:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Cote</td><td>19533</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>36:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mick McGowan</td><td>17253</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>40:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Phonepasong Arounleut</td><td>22678</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>44:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Drew Zeigler</td><td>23437</td><td>911</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>46:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bob Foss</td><td>15095</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>54:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Jefferies</td><td>18812</td><td>918</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>57:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brent Miller</td><td>22514</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>57:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tom Townsend</td><td>18035</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>57:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Fuzzy Schnakenberg</td><td>14319</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>61:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Justin Celmer</td><td>22772</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>67:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ben Calhoun</td><td>16000</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>75:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ryan Schuman</td><td>22283</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>75:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Edward Schroer</td><td>13727</td><td>907</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>82:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Carter Allen</td><td>12486</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>89:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Sancho R. Valdez</td><td>20476</td><td>912</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>89:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brent Kauffman</td><td>20486</td><td>925</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>110:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kyle Joncas</td><td>22966</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>124:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nathan Baron</td><td>24352</td><td>905</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>124:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Gary Carmichael</td><td>15877</td><td>917</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Barton Erickson</td><td>16730</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Marcus Hazle</td><td>20203</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Greg Davis</td><td>18598</td><td>911</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tafe Hemler</td><td>19740</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Josh Roberts</td><td>18298</td><td>909</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David J. Dieterich</td><td>23703</td><td>906</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Benjamin Powell</td><td>21360</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Robinson</td><td>24414</td><td>907</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Russell Clements</td><td>22595</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Lucas</td><td>17669</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Churches</td><td>17073</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Oakley</td><td>16177</td><td>911</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Matt Frymoyer</td><td>15971</td><td>909</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Buckles</td><td>7543</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jesse Streinz</td><td>21538</td><td>904</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Any others</td><td>16726</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

OMB odds are below.

Rhett, good news, you are a lock to make the Semis. This is mainly due to your rock-steady play (standard deviation of only 16(!) in your last 21 rounds). However, for the same reason, you have no chance to make the finals.

Theo, you're looking good.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>PDGA#</td><td>Rating</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals</td><td>Semis
</td></tr><tr><td>Doug Saulter</td><td>21126</td><td>962</td><td>1:5</td><td>Off</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Bob Mikell</td><td>19396</td><td>947</td><td>20:1</td><td>4:3</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Craig Wit Whitney</td><td>17596</td><td>946</td><td>22:1</td><td>2:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim Daniels</td><td>16543</td><td>931</td><td>65:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Art Heilman</td><td>1986</td><td>941</td><td>70:1</td><td>3:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Rat Man Hunt</td><td>11084</td><td>940</td><td>82:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Frame</td><td>20305</td><td>936</td><td>89:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Captain Don Simonini</td><td>2796</td><td>942</td><td>110:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Larry Schuiteboer</td><td>20133</td><td>938</td><td>165:1</td><td>7:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Ehlert</td><td>19970</td><td>937</td><td>199:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>John O. Dorn</td><td>13295</td><td>923</td><td>332:1</td><td>44:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Matthew Egan</td><td>20394</td><td>926</td><td>499:1</td><td>8:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Lang</td><td>15381</td><td>932</td><td>499:1</td><td>36:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ernie Small</td><td>2306</td><td>929</td><td>499:1</td><td>36:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Rose</td><td>6517</td><td>936</td><td>999:1</td><td>11:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Minich</td><td>13920</td><td>934</td><td>999:1</td><td>12:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Mitch Gaskill</td><td>12769</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>70:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Richard Hoffa</td><td>22918</td><td>925</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Billy Nelson</td><td>13448</td><td>936</td><td>999:1</td><td>6:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Pazanin</td><td>22675</td><td>938</td><td>999:1</td><td>6:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>David Yates</td><td>5269</td><td>935</td><td>999:1</td><td>10:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Bruce Brakel</td><td>13087</td><td>933</td><td>999:1</td><td>24:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Dig King</td><td>16035</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>32:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Graham</td><td>15112</td><td>918</td><td>999:1</td><td>42:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Hemlock</td><td>15087</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>49:1</td><td>1:9
</td></tr><tr><td>John J. Hovey</td><td>24944</td><td>929</td><td>999:1</td><td>51:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jon One Tylzynski</td><td>13212</td><td>944</td><td>999:1</td><td>70:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Levell</td><td>19833</td><td>931</td><td>999:1</td><td>99:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Rzepka</td><td>24630</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>124:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Hay</td><td>13634</td><td>919</td><td>999:1</td><td>124:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>Victor Clark</td><td>9649</td><td>926</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Kozlowski</td><td>20615</td><td>924</td><td>999:1</td><td>141:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Lewis</td><td>7318</td><td>931</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>Paul Eklund</td><td>13498</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ron Robertson</td><td>16479</td><td>922</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Russ Corey</td><td>3523</td><td>911</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Gary Crowley</td><td>15889</td><td>921</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Sexton</td><td>18822</td><td>918</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>1:5
</td></tr><tr><td>Bryan Wagler</td><td>18613</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>David A. Wise</td><td>21242</td><td>905</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Hisashi Tanabe</td><td>8129</td><td>910</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:7
</td></tr><tr><td>Claydog Brumit</td><td>10293</td><td>918</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Peter Charlton</td><td>17894</td><td>920</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>Larry Doc Harman</td><td>12426</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Don Megalodon Rowden</td><td>13708</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Jake Walsdorf</td><td>15467</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>James Valkon Harvey</td><td>23232</td><td>865</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>14:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Rhett Stroh</td><td>14540</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ray Missey</td><td>4922</td><td>923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Kelly Watson</td><td>14863</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:9
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Hardyman</td><td>19149</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:8
</td></tr><tr><td>Kip Rake</td><td>19001</td><td>915</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Theo Pozzy</td><td>14166</td><td>914</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:4
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeffrey A. Johnson</td><td>9984</td><td>910</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Rob Kelly</td><td>21143</td><td>893</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Royal</td><td>9690</td><td>916</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Brian Frederick</td><td>16286</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Bradley Dow</td><td>17139</td><td>909</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Kenneth Rollins</td><td>7030</td><td>913</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Gary Duke</td><td>9426</td><td>911</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Louis Hall</td><td>18132</td><td>909</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Peter Lindgren</td><td>19207</td><td>900</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nick Repar</td><td>17273</td><td>908</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Hammer</td><td>24766</td><td>898</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jack Tabor</td><td>17991</td><td>907</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Stuart P. Krall</td><td>13321</td><td>908</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John Talken</td><td>7411</td><td>887</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Terrill Paske</td><td>21865</td><td>907</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Andrew Weyl</td><td>15059</td><td>895</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Beach</td><td>14937</td><td>905</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Larry Entz</td><td>14785</td><td>904</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ed Jacob</td><td>22441</td><td>895</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John Raich</td><td>2533</td><td>887</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim Bassett</td><td>17249</td><td>900</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Daniel Mueller</td><td>14270</td><td>893</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ralph Vickers</td><td>15859</td><td>890</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Rich Bevins</td><td>10084</td><td>900</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brent Jarrett</td><td>15342</td><td>897</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>8:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim Old B Brennon</td><td>4194</td><td>894</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Yasuo Sakurai</td><td>8105</td><td>882</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Vose</td><td>18268</td><td>897</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Thomas Catterall</td><td>12238</td><td>887</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David M. Thomason</td><td>21493</td><td>891</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>14:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Don Richter</td><td>10002</td><td>894</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>15:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tony Kroes</td><td>12952</td><td>904</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>19:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dave Prue</td><td>9360</td><td>893</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>19:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Leroy McNamer</td><td>13442</td><td>892</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>20:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ed Matias</td><td>15063</td><td>900</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>20:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Douglas Foust</td><td>10954</td><td>889</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>22:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steven Utley</td><td>15110</td><td>884</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>25:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Prandy</td><td>20462</td><td>892</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>36:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David J. Zentz</td><td>12261</td><td>892</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>37:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John Picklesimer</td><td>14524</td><td>894</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>49:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Marv Adams</td><td>9767</td><td>885</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>51:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eric Jon Keim</td><td>14853</td><td>888</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>57:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Olson</td><td>23103</td><td>876</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>75:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Wayne Kelly Leggette</td><td>22282</td><td>877</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>82:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Greg Goben</td><td>15490</td><td>883</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Wiemann</td><td>22272</td><td>875</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>165:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael W. Toney</td><td>17900</td><td>876</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Nobuhiro Kawai</td><td>8100</td><td>901</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steven S. Hepker</td><td>16234</td><td>869</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Todd Bear Rusthoven</td><td>11201</td><td>882</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Lloyd Sitkoff</td><td>10629</td><td>880</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Richard Sheets</td><td>23526</td><td>852</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Andy Gumby Quick</td><td>13900</td><td>887</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Yoshihito Nishizono</td><td>8109</td><td>854</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert McAleer</td><td>15121</td><td>879</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Douglas Mueller</td><td>16519</td><td>878</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Ron Olson</td><td>19915</td><td>875</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Andrew Big Chiz Chisholm</td><td>19311</td><td>873</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Raymond Fitzgerald</td><td>4246</td><td>872</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Anthony Titus</td><td>17441</td><td>870</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tom Paxton</td><td>15934</td><td>868</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Tull</td><td>20437</td><td>865</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bob Webster</td><td>16560</td><td>864</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Randy Oliver</td><td>11764</td><td>858</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Katsunori Uchiyama</td><td>8127</td><td>851</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Martyr Atwood</td><td>16523</td><td>850</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Barry Butcher</td><td>24153</td><td>809</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Frederick H. Bingham</td><td>19472</td><td>801</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Sean Joice</td><td>24467</td><td>801</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

I have a chance! :eek:
Thanks for all your hard work with the stats, Rodney. But I'm gonna do my best to prove you wrong ;)
and if I don't, I hope Wit wins.

I have a chance! :eek:
Thanks for all your hard work with the stats, Rodney. But I'm gonna do my best to prove you wrong ;)
and if I don't, I hope Wit wins.



Have fun Rob. You won't be proving *me* wrong, you'll be proving the *numbers* wrong. *I* think you're all going to win.

Sweet. I hope I don't let the numbers down. :)

"Consistently Okay" is something to strive for!

JJ at 1:5...wow! I thought that he would be the favorite, but to say his chances of winning are 5 out of 6...that's much higher than I would have guessed on anyone at Am Worlds, ever.

what about MASTERS :D

Rob you are the 'underdog'... since your latest tournaments were not submitted yet.. we know you are better than an 893 :D So let everyone think you are what the stats say..and prove the numbers wrong.. Go get em... Hope your first worlds is a great one.

G :D :DD LUCK Queen City!!!!!

ps..interesting Rodney..how did you calc. these stats? :confused: inquiring minds wanna know.. or at least JOY does.. ;)

Wow, I think I'd definitely be worth taking a flyer on to make the semis with those odds.

Where do I place my bet?

Umm, the cut is to the top 40.

I thought you were more of an "Album Oriented Rock" kind of guy. :)

I have a little Top 40 in me. I'll be fine, but thanks. :)

(Even Kiss had a top 40 hit.)

I was going to say something like "It's top 40, not DFL", but the music reference just called to me. :)

Double Platinum is in the CD player right now.

vinnie, sorry, the gaming commission shut the operation down for a couple days. Masters odds tomorrow if we're lucky.

Joy, I used a very gross simulator, using the performances of the past 12 months as input for each player. I ran 1000 tournaments for each division, and then calced the odds based on the outcomes of the 1000 tournaments.

Drew, Advanced is certainly the biggest crapshoot. I made some adjustments to the input to try to account for rapidly changing skill levels. JJ's odds were helped by his averaging over 1000 in his rounds so far in 2004.

Mark, it's those bets on 999:1 that help pay the many who will win with the favorites. Or is it the other way around?

Double Platinum is in the CD player right now.




RIGHT ON! :D

MPM Odds:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>PDGA#</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals</td><td>Semis
</td></tr><tr><td>Brad Hammock</td><td>5912</td><td>3:2</td><td>Off</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Larry Leonard</td><td>3832</td><td>3:1</td><td>1:3</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim Oates</td><td>3351</td><td>6:1</td><td>1:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Dean Tannock</td><td>4028</td><td>11:1</td><td>1:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Harold Hampton</td><td>5936</td><td>23:1</td><td>2:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Al Schack</td><td>3407</td><td>33:1</td><td>3:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Mitch McClellan</td><td>3566</td><td>58:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jim No Spin Myers</td><td>3396</td><td>66:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Gregg Miniac Hosfeld</td><td>1602</td><td>166:1</td><td>11:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Ken Gill</td><td>3549</td><td>332:1</td><td>16:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Papa</td><td>10099</td><td>332:1</td><td>25:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Joel Kelly</td><td>9152</td><td>499:1</td><td>27:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Andrew Back</td><td>15365</td><td>999:1</td><td>26:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Gene LaForge</td><td>3990</td><td>999:1</td><td>82:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Vinnie Miller</td><td>5521</td><td>999:1</td><td>90:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Duane CD Steiner</td><td>2883</td><td>999:1</td><td>110:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Harper</td><td>2968</td><td>999:1</td><td>142:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Kenny Lee</td><td>14204</td><td>999:1</td><td>332:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Randy Greywoolf</td><td>9945</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>1:5
</td></tr><tr><td>Darren Harper</td><td>9666</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Tom Embree</td><td>7689</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Rob Harding</td><td>9163</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert Sparks</td><td>6473</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off
</td></tr><tr><td>Eric Vandenberg</td><td>3089</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:8
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Burghardt</td><td>17834</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:8
</td></tr><tr><td>Kevin Couch</td><td>7714</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:8
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark D. Martin</td><td>2532</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:6
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Hysell</td><td>7382</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:3
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerry L. Perez Sr</td><td>9957</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Ellis</td><td>7423</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:2
</td></tr><tr><td>J. Gary Dropcho</td><td>2734</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Alex Hughes</td><td>5923</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Johnny B Botamer</td><td>7399</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mark Poulin</td><td>4101</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Nichols</td><td>5530</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Billy Crump</td><td>10855</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jerry Miller</td><td>2070</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John Schiller</td><td>584</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Michael Williams</td><td>2020</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Derek Robins</td><td>5980</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tom Jenkins</td><td>9582</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Doug Peyton</td><td>10642</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jason Southwick</td><td>5893</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dale Patterson</td><td>4121</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bill Davis</td><td>5765</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jay Bitner</td><td>17759</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brad Deteau</td><td>16876</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>2:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dan Cordle</td><td>5360</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Mollyhorn</td><td>5863</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Don Hunkel</td><td>4713</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Soule</td><td>3310</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Jeff Homburg</td><td>1025</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Billy Carnaghe</td><td>12115</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Harmon</td><td>15862</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Rick Rentz</td><td>12876</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>4:1
</td></tr><tr><td>HB Clark</td><td>553</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>James McCaine</td><td>4206</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>7:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Marcus Roberts</td><td>7729</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>9:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Chris Barbo</td><td>12103</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>12:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Woodrow Blackwell</td><td>20940</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>13:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Roy Carey</td><td>1448</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>14:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tim McCurry</td><td>1008</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>14:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bart Zandstra</td><td>11924</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>15:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bob Kramer</td><td>3344</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>17:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Marty Hapner</td><td>4033</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>19:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve Harden</td><td>7880</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>24:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Reese Swinea</td><td>12371</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>30:1
</td></tr><tr><td>John Rock Stewart</td><td>4693</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>35:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Dev Nelson</td><td>7557</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>44:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scott Innis</td><td>2635</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>76:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David Vaughan</td><td>6511</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Scotty Inman</td><td>9803</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>249:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Tom Cremer</td><td>1673</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eric Paulson</td><td>4208</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bill Newman</td><td>1603</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>David J. O\\'Shea</td><td>3538</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Robert Walsh</td><td>4928</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Steve TheShark Colatriano</td><td>11644</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bill Burns</td><td>581</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Mike Kindschi</td><td>3989</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Derek Warner</td><td>3315</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Carl Jochen</td><td>6553</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Al Speedy Guerrero</td><td>3816</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Eric Edgerton</td><td>14138</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Bob Perry</td><td>3017</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Joe Kowalski</td><td>6188</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Brad Packett</td><td>6833</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Vinnie's 999:1 to win? I'll take a piece of that action.

What's funnier:

Reese having better odds than Bill B?

Seeing McCaine's name in a list of Masters?

they don't know me very well do they?
But I am sure they will know me when its over
BOOM!

I think Chile being 999:1 to make the cut is even sillier than your odds to win. Puhleeze. Chile's in it to win it!

Team E at Worlds, baby!

Mark Martyr Atwood 16523 850 999:1 999:1 999:1





Show 'em differently ATWOOD!

I'll do my best, Sir Hero.

If I'm playing on Saturday, I'll consider this trip a resounding success.

Vinnie set them silly farkers straight!!!! 90-1 to make finals ..**** that is just silly!!!! I will take that all day!!!!

shhhh.......call me the sleeper

I think Chile being 999:1 to make the cut is even sillier than your odds to win. Puhleeze. Chile's in it to win it!

Team E at Worlds, baby!



Who is Chile? I thought he was 1:2 to make the cut?

He seems to be, did you edit your post like Mark says I do ?

Joy, I used a very gross simulator, using the performances of the past 12 months as input for each player. I ran 1000 tournaments for each division, and then calced the odds based on the outcomes of the 1000 tournaments.



Rodney does your mind ever rest??? :D thnx for responding.. I understand.. "I think" /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BS...too many 999:1 odds.

Any odds for the distance competition???? Predictions??

He seems to be, did you edit your post like Mark says I do ?



No, evidently I made an uncharacteristic mistake. :)

And you do.

And you do.


Only when I need to.

Or when I want to.

Or when I can strand a quick reply....

Vinne,and chile will beat those odds every time .Atwood they dont like you .

Thanks Mark!

I'm gonna spank Reese, gar-on-teed! My last two rounds at Lake Lewisville were -4 and -3, not earthshaking, but much better than my 920ish rating. I feel like I'm playing at about a 950 or so right now, so my first goal is to stay in my flight after the GREAT SHUFFLE (what was that song from the 70s - "DO THE SHUFFLE!" doo doo doo doo-doo doo-doo doo "do the shuffle" :D

My second goal is to make it to the semis, but with odds of 999:1 to do that, I may hit the road early on Saturday, so I'll have more time on Sunday to cut the lawn and do all the other chores that will accumulate in my absence (but I hope I make the cut).

Hey, Rodney...

How about a "per capita" breakdown by state/province/country on attendance at Worlds? In other words, which has the largest contigent of players, based on population?

jon

http://www.madisc.org/PDGA-WORLDSPart.jpg
<font color="orange"> PDGA PLAYER RATINGS % </font>
<font color="purple"> PDGA WORLDS PLAYER RATINGS % </font>

This chart shows the total percentage of all PDGA Members Ratings against all PDGA World Participants Ratings.

NW In THE HOUSE! There is our first one, Theresa Sassy and Dave Feldberg bringing it home! Next up: Dario Re Junior<19 Brody Miller Am men, Theresa Sass am women, Advanced am masters Dangerous Doug J. Salter (If Doug wins this world title it will be his 13th, the other 12 have been in ultimate where he has won one in every division offered), Stimpi Steve Simmons am Grandmaster, Vallerie Miller Junior Girls, Karen Brown advanced grandmaster women and then there is little David Feldberg. :D

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

JT,
I belive it is only 1 World title in Ultimate not 12 :p i spoke with Doug on thurs. He thought that was :o/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D:eek: :cool:


But i have to agree, their is a VERY STRONG N.W. DISC GOLF Presence :eek: :eek: :eek: :cool:at this year's Pro/Am World Championship's :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

It will be nice to see just how many more World Title'Z come on back to the "Little Old N.W." from IOWA

GO N.W. DISCER'Z

HAVE FUN ;) /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

Korver or Sinclair?



She's still using Korver.



Good. Otherwise if / when she repeats as World Champion, Innova would have to decide whether Champion Valkyries and Pro Aviar-x's would become JKS (with accompanying new signature) or 6 time JK editions. :D

Are you serious, wow I could a sworn... When I stayed at his house I was really... oh yeah wasted :DI wonder if anyone has ever been an ultimate world champion and a disc golf world champion, if not it would make a great trivia question after Doug wins,,,

Updated FPO Odds are below.

Yes, you can get the current 4th place FPO at 26:1 to make the Finals. And the current 6th place at 999:1 to make the Finals.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Name</td><td>Win</td><td>Finals</td><td>Semis</td><td>Rank After 5 Rounds
</td></tr><tr><td>Birgitta Lagerholm</td><td>1:6</td><td>Off</td><td>Off</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td>Des Reading</td><td>8:1</td><td>Off</td><td>Off</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>Carrie Burl Berlogar</td><td>46:1</td><td>1:4</td><td>Off</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>Juliana Korver</td><td>249:1</td><td>1:1</td><td>Off</td><td>7
</td></tr><tr><td>Elaine King</td><td>499:1</td><td>3:1</td><td>Off</td><td>8
</td></tr><tr><td>Nadine Cosgrove</td><td>499:1</td><td>4:1</td><td>Off</td><td>5
</td></tr><tr><td>Lesli Herndon</td><td>999:1</td><td>10:1</td><td>Off</td><td>9
</td></tr><tr><td>Lydie Lykke Hellgren</td><td>999:1</td><td>26:1</td><td>Off</td><td>4
</td></tr><tr><td>Anni Kreml</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>Off</td><td>12
</td></tr><tr><td>Ruth Steele</td><td>999:1</td><td>499:1</td><td>Off</td><td>13
</td></tr><tr><td>Valerie Jenkins</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off</td><td>6
</td></tr><tr><td>Courtney Peavy</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off</td><td>10
</td></tr><tr><td>Mandi Snodgrass</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off</td><td>11
</td></tr><tr><td>Sue Stephens</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>Off</td><td>15
</td></tr><tr><td>Brita Lagergren</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:9</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>Angela Tschiggfrie</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>1:1</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>Michelle Bovin</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1</td><td>16
</td></tr><tr><td>Lesli Demark</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>3:1</td><td>18
</td></tr><tr><td>Laura Jean Clark</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>99:1</td><td>22
</td></tr><tr><td>Mckinley Dale McCarty</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>199:1</td><td>19
</td></tr><tr><td>Kimbra Carnaghe</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>333:1</td><td>23
</td></tr><tr><td>Erika Pray</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>333:1</td><td>21
</td></tr><tr><td>Michelle Wilson</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>20
</td></tr><tr><td>Alison Cremer</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>24
</td></tr><tr><td>Akemi Takahasi</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>25
</td></tr><tr><td>Florence Dumont</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>999:1</td><td>26
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Rodney is a good odds-maker, as I coasted into the semis with ease, and had zero shot at cracking the finals. :)

I was pretty happy withmy shooting all week. Couldn't really ask for much more...except maybe 4 fewer strokes at Walnut.

Odds results:
<table border="1"><tr><td> MPO</td><td>Finals</td><td>Win
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz</td><td>Off</td><td>1:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Climo</td><td>1:2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Schweberger</td><td>21:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Rico</td><td>3:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz/Climo</td><td>any order</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz,Climo</td><td>first,second</td><td>5:1
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>FPO</td><td>Finals</td><td>Win
</td></tr><tr><td>Lagerholm</td><td>1:5</td><td>3:1
</td></tr><tr><td>Reading</td><td>Off</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Herndon</td><td>2:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Berlogar</td><td>2:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MA1</td><td>Finals</td><td>Win
</td></tr><tr><td>Jernigan</td><td>Off</td><td>1:5
</td></tr><tr><td>Bubis</td><td>5:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Miller</td><td>4:3</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Sexton</td><td>5:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>OMB</td><td>Finals</td><td>Win
</td></tr><tr><td>Saulter</td><td>Off</td><td>1:5
</td></tr><tr><td>Ehlert</td><td>4:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Hunt</td><td>4:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Kozlowski</td><td>141:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>MPM</td><td>Finals</td><td>Win
</td></tr><tr><td>Hammock</td><td>Off</td><td>3:2
</td></tr><tr><td>Schack</td><td>3:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Tannock</td><td>1:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Back</td><td>26:1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>


Obvious longshot winners were Schweb at 21:1, Kozlowski at 141:1, and Back at 26:1.

In the 5 divisions, the only odds-on favorite that didn't win was Reading. She finished 2nd, but that's little consolation to those who took her at 3:2.

The other obvious surprises were Korver not making the Finals in FPO, and Leonard not making the Finals in MPM. There was no line on Korver, luckily for the bettors; but Leonard was 1:3.

In MA1, the Odds top 4 finished 1st,5th,3rd,13th.
In MA1, the top 4 finishers were predicted at 1st,7th,3rd,6th.

If next years Skills Nationals targets the midsection of our demographic it could be the biggest single disc golf event ever.