It's just about that time again!!

On July 10th and 11th,(yes 2004 :D) the ACE club will proudly host a PDGA B Tier event, as well as a NC Point Series event at Cedarock Park. This event will be a warm up for the A Tier event "Sneeky Pete" to be held in September. Come on out and support the cause.

To anyone who has not yet played at Cedarock Park, I would highly recommend you making the trip to do so. The park offers 2 courses in the same park. Each course has 2 sets of tees, while Cedarock also offers alt. pin placements.

Cedarock Course:
20 Holes,mostly open, with well established trees. Rolling hills of <font color="green"> lush green grass </font> . Well manicured,with groomed fairways.
Pro tees to Alt. pin positions measure around 7200ft.
Am pads to Alt. pin position measure around 6600ft.

Wellspring:
Accuracy oriented course, with lots of woods and hills. 2 OB creeks(may play casual), a lake and dual tees. Fairways clearly defined and walkways between holes are lined. Hole 17 has been considered to be on of the best holes in the state. Make the call for yourself.
Pro Tees measure around 4800ft.
Am Tees measure around 4400ft.


2003 Defending Open winner Larry Leonard
2003 Defending Open Women winner Mandi Snodgrass
2003 Defending Master winner Tim McNeill
2003 Defending Adv. winner Dean Lewis
2003 Defending Int. women's winner Sandy Nelson
2003 Defending Int. men's winner Logan Sheets


Now the important stuff...

Please make checks Payable to:
Bobby Evans
1713 Oklahoma Ave.
Burlington, NC 27217
336)228-0939

Open $65
*Adv.$45
*Int.$35
*Rec.$25

(*)Indicates players package included with entry fee.

Cedarock also offers free camping at limited sites, so if you want to camp please be sure to call and make your reservations today. (336)570-6759
No host hotel for this event. There are several options to choose from on Exit 145. There are also several on Exit 141 (Elon exit)and tons of pubs and dining on this exit as well.

Directions: I-85/I-40, exit 145 (Hwy 49) from Shoneys, south 6.3 miles, left at Friendship-Patterson Mill Rd., 0.25 mile, left at park road, 1.3 miles to 2nd lot on left.

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We also have Sneeky Pete fund raiser disc available for those that would like to help sponsor the Sneeky Pete A Tier event in September. To view the stamp: Sneeky Pete CFR (http://paintedover.com/uploads/1/sneekyfinal1.jpg)

Please help support this event!!

Look forward to seeing everyone at the Pro-Am this year. Good luck to all that decide to play.

You can also find a tournament flier here: Pro-Am (http://www.radl.biz/Flyers/2004/Pro%20Am%20Flyer%20revised.jpg)

Additional details to come...

<font color="green"> -m </font>

I played the pair of courses for the first time ever over the Christmas holiday season and I was very glad I made the 1 1/2 hour drive south to check them out. I'll miss the Pro/Am I'm sad to say because of a family vacation at Myrtle Beach, but I have my sights set on playing the Sneeky Pete in September. Micheal's reference to hole 17 at Wellspring is right on the money, an awesome hole. Being a lowly am, I was thrilled to make a tap-in 3 on that one. I would bet that deuces on that one are few and far between, even for the pros.

I only know of a few 2's recorded on this hole. I happen to be one of the lucky ones. It was a skip in 2 from about 250 out. 2 on this hole would be considered an eagle in my book. A 3 on this hole is excellent, and in most cases will gain 1 if not 2 strokes on the field. Nice 3 JP! Glad to hear you may join us for the SP. Buy a CFR from us!

-m

paypal?

How long is hole..................

Is the entrance to the park 7.5 miles from the highway :D

Will my shots filter :o

I'll be there!

Not as this time.

It may be a possibility for this event, I am waiting to hear from Bobby as to whether or not he wants to use this method of payment??
Please pre-register. It makes it a lot easier on the TD. There will be a penalty for sign ups on the day of the event.

-m

All holes are 7.5 miles long...you know this Jake!! :D

All shots filter 7.5 miles as well. :D

Glad to hear you will be playing this event!

Buy a CFR :D

-m

Please pre-register. It makes it a lot easier on the TD. There will be a penalty for sign ups on the day of the event.


i agree, thats why i suggest paypal. less paperwork, no worrying about the mail, immensely faster. if fees are an issue i have no problem paying $2 more.

Agree Yahnni! 100%. It's not my call. I will leave it up to the TD to decide. One reason I posted this so early was to give players ample time to register, in the event snail mail is the only option. I am also pretty sure someone will be out at the park the Friday before to take registrations. Not sure what time or for how long? This should also help avoid a penalty for day of tournament registrations.

-m

I will be out there.

Both courses are beautiful. Will the holes be in the short pin placement or long?

My vote will be for the exact setup for Sneeky Pete.

I have no official word, but I have heard that it will be

Cedarock Pro pads- Alt. pin placements (2 rounds)
Wellspring Pro pads and Wellspring Original.(1 round each)

Everyone will play the SAME courses regardless of division.

I will post once I have official word from the ACE club.

Of course you can play either setup on the Wellspring course whenever. Cedarock will of course need to move the pins to the Alt. sleeves to play the long layout. I was out there late last week, and the pins are in the short. They usually change them every month.

-m

Everyone will play the SAME courses regardless of division.


thank god...

say word, son...

Mike,

That is a very smart decision.

Kirk

Yeah.....I thought you'd like that Yoo! :D

Now buy some CFR plastic from me!!

Mike,

What do you have?

Kirk

Kirk-

What do you want! :D

I will gladly purchase anything anyone would like and would purchase!

Right now the only CFR disc I have left are:

<font color="red"> T-Birds
TL's
Glow T-Birds
Glow TL's
RED HOT!!</font>

Come on buy them all!! We would really like to make this event a HUGE success. In order to do so, we are going to need some support from all the playa's out there. You know how it works!

If you are interested please let me know. You can PM me, call me, whatever!

(c)339-512-1933 Leave a message if no answer.

-m

The link to the flier has changed. There were a few mistakes on the first link. Here is the link with all the correct dates and info.

Pro-Am (http://www.radl.biz/Flyers/2004/Discgolf2004flyerfinal2.jpg)

Can I borrow $25 ? And when I say borrow I mean have.

I think we can arrange some compensation for you if your willing to Marshall and help TD :D

Thats gotta be worth sumthin' right?

I like the way you think.

It's a Lefty thing! :D

...it's a gift few rarely have the opportunity to experience.

Marshall Mark!

Swami voice,

"Marshall, Marshall, Marshall!"

aaaahh memories of the NFL season. Cant wait for that to start again! He could goooo alllll the waaaaayyy!

-m

The courses played in the Pro-Am will be different than Sneeky Pete. This is OFFICIAL! No pay pal for this event. Pre-REGISTER. Plenty of time left to do this. It will be an option for the Sneeky Pete. There will also be someone at the course the Friday before the Pro-Am. They will take registration between 4 and 7 on Friday. SO if you can send it snail mail, you have the option to meet someone out at the park. If you don't pre-register then a late fee will be imposed the day of the event( that is if they decide to even take it??)

OK so now the courses to be played:

Cedarock will be on the short pin placement

1 round from the Pro Pads to the short placement
1 round from the original tees to the short placement

Wellspring

1 round from the Pro pads
1 round from the Original Pads.

4 rounds, 4 different courses.

Sneeky Pete will be

Cedarock Long pin placement.

1 round from the Pro Pads
1 round from the original pads

Wellspring

1 round Pro Pads
1 round Original Pads

-m

Tee time both days will be

10 am !!

9:30 players meeting on Saturday

optimizers, anyone???

Spam anyone?

Beat it Spammer! :D

Buy a CFR from me!

-m

i'll trade you one optimizer for 2 cfr's :cool:

now thats a deal you cannot pass up !!!!

mike, check out the oakhollowdgc.com site. we set up a little club discussion board on it. join on in and start a pro/ am and sneaky pete thread. we just started it, so we'll have a lot of local guys checking it out...

Supa-

Registered. Posted. Done.

It does fall under the Oak Hollow Thread. I will try to fix it later. Cool addition to the site!!

-m

5 weeks till the show begins.

Keepin' it near the top...

Please Pre-Reg for this event!

Pre-reg. are beginning to come in. Tournament is 3 weeks away, dont delay, send it in today.

-m

More pre-regs this weekend. Looking like a great event shaping up. Hope to see everyone there!

-m

Michael, are you going to be around Raleigh anytime soon? I would like to pre-reg, but I am too lazy to send it through mail.

I will be at ChaChing(if they still have it....2 weeks away and no news on it).

Michael, are you going to be around Raleigh anytime soon? I would like to pre-reg, but I am too lazy to send it through mail.

I will be at ChaChing(if they still have it....2 weeks away and no news on it).


start a thread...

What ever, Thread Nazi.

Mad-man! Hope to see you and the crew at the Pro-Am, but I think you guys were going to have to pass on this one...right? I know you will be around for the SP in September!

Plank-I-
No plans to be in Raleighwood before the Pro-Am. However there is a small 1 day Gateway tournament this Saturday at Cedarock. Come on out and pay then. Should be a cool little one dayer for anyone that wants to come and play. 2 rounds, register at 9 or 9:30. 10 o'clock T time.

If you cant make it send it with someone that may come, otherwise snail mail it, or register on Friday before the event. Otherwise you may have to pay a penalty. All penalty fees will more than likely go to the SP purse.

Buy a CFR peeps!!

-m

Well I was planning on play Cedarock this weekend, so I guess I can show up for the tourny.

Cool! PLay Open. You can win cash! Non-Sanctioned so you dont need to worry about accepting and being stuck in the Open Division for life. You can always play Adv. or Am, but since it's Gateway sponsored, I think most prizes for Adv. and AM will be in Gateway plastic. Which is cool if you like the plastic and throw it! Open division of course takes home dollars!


Hope to see some of you guys out there. Good warm up for the Pro-Am.

-m

Yeah...if I play open, I know I won't cash. I can only hope to play like a pro one day.

Entry Fees?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Gateway Sponsored Event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Registration starts at 9am this Saturday 6/26/04. Tee Time 10 o'clock.

2 Rounds. Both courses.

All divisions, all the same price. $20

Rodney Gilmore is TD. Dont have anyway to contact him, but you can try 336-222-8161 for more info.

Come on out and warm it up for the Pro-Am.

Dont be sceered......

-m

...

OK. I know this is a weak attempt at a website, but hopefully as it grows it will be a lot better. It's free so what can I say? I will also change the url to something more disc friendly.

I will also try to upload some more photos of other holes, as well as some from Wellspring.

Anyway...click if you wish.

Cedarock Park (http://www.freewebs.com/hyzerboy/index.htm)

its not that bad.... hyzerboy

nice calming colors...simple, yet refined.

Michael, some of team Fish should be coming up this Sat. Is it going to be both inside and outside? Great first iteration on the website. Must give strong props to everyone who has been working hard at Cedar Rock! Things are looking crump-tastic!

Thanks for the KUDOS. We are trying!

We would love to have you come on over for the event!

2 rounds, 1 Cedarock, and 1 Wellspring. For those that havent played Wellspring lately, your in for a treat. The club has spent sooooo much time on that course to get it ready for Sneeky Pete. You will notice a lot of work to all tee pads, and very little debris laying around. Come on out and join us!!

Website has been updated with a little more info. Still a work in progress.

New Club Site (http://www.freewebs.com/hyzerboy/)

Don't forget the Gateway tournament is tomorrow Saturday 6/26

Come on out and warm up for the Pro-Am

looked like I wasn't gonna be able to make it out, but it worked out - see everyone in the morning

Couple of questions which probably won't be answered.

Will everyone be playing the same tees?

Which pin position will Cedarock be in?

Everyone is playing the same tees as far as I know.

Cedarock was in the Alt pin position last week, so unless they moved it, expect that setup.

Rain is on the way out, looks like it's gonna be a nice day.

Hope to see a bunch of you guys soon.

-m

Congrats on the new web site.
Remind everyone about the 18th Annual Cross State Doubles.
It finishes at Cedarock in '04, Day 1 at Warrior's Path & Fossil Hill in Tennessee.
October 23 - 24, weekend after USDGC.
Count on us for some sponsorship at the Sneeky Pete.
f.

I had a blast Saturday - glad I went.

Wellspring looks AWESOME!! Lots of work that was well needed and well done. My hats off, exposing my melon, to the ace club.

Great shooting watson, thanks for showing me how its done

Yeah...

This was fun on Saturday. I need to play better on hole 17 at Wellspring though. Oh well...

Glad I came back to take 4th. After missing some easy putts(leaving them short) for birdies I thought I was going to be stuck in 5th. :)

Thanks to all that came out on Sunday! Glad to see the brief early morning rain didnt keep you guys away. I think it did keep most away? It actually turned out to be a great day. I dont think it rain a drop from the 2 minute warning on. Had a good time, and enjoyed my playing partners on Sunday. Thanks for the KUDOS MTL. We hope to have the Wellspring course in even better shape come Sneeky Pete.

Dont forget the Pro- Am is 2 weeks away! Send those registrations in today!

-m

Watch for some changes in the Cross State Doubles this Fall.
We will be X - C Tier and may be changing courses used in an attempt to reduce driving times and motel bills.



John-

I think the ACE club was under the impression that the format was being changed? Due to cost and driving times we thought you were moving the cross-states to Asheville/Hickory? A course closer to Kingsport. Is this right/wrong?

-m

Looking forward to the Pro-Am, Hope I play like a pro. :oand not like an ...............

Keep the Crossstates in Burlington!

Nice edit... :D

mmmm interesting (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=4192)

love it! To all that cant make the Pro-Am, Hysell suggest that you travel up to Fairfax to play in Duck Golf. Please support VA Golf!

Watch for some changes in the Cross State Doubles this Fall.
We will be X - C Tier and may be changing courses used in an attempt to reduce driving times and motel bills.



John-

I think the ACE club was under the impression that the format was being changed? Due to cost and driving times we thought you were moving the cross-states to Asheville/Hickory? A course closer to Kingsport. Is this right/wrong?

-m



Michael
The 18 Cross State Doubles will be in Burlington this year as usual.
I don't know when Asheville / Mars Hill will have courses to match those at Cedarock.
Nor do I know when we will be able to play all the new holes at Winged Deer, but look for Winged Deer to replace Fossil Hill at some point. That would mean a I - 26 doubles corridor and less than 100 miles.
We are looking at another doubles event between Fossil Hill & Blacksburg. Only about 150 miles between courses both along I - 81.

We would not move the event without talking to you guys first.

There has been some talk about getting the cost down & eliminate the extra night motel costs. When the event was initiated between Warrior's & Horizons, the short drive meant that you could stay at home & drive the 3 hours in the morning. The added distance to Cedarock certainly gave a much better course and allowed for more teams, but it also added a motel night. Then when we added Fossil Hill there was more driving.

Also lets thank Paul Dosher for his help with Lakefront Disc Golf Club events these last few years. He 'retired' over the Winter from those responsibilities.

j

Thanks for the update John. Glad to hear the Crosstates are still gonna be played in Burlington. Now if we could only raise more money for that event! It would certianly help drum up some more intrest and hopefully get more Open teams to play. Cant ask for any better course to host the event on!

Just got the OK from the "home front" to play in the 3 upcoming local PDGA tournaments (Zebulon, Burlington & High Point)... and although Burlington is only 45 minutes away, I'm thinking about camping. Anyone else planning on camping Saturday night at the course? Cound be party time....

aRE Dee

a<font color="red">RE D</font>ee, Can I stay at your house?

Happy 4th!

Anyone going to be playing tomm? A few of us from HP were talking about playing on Monday.

Is the tourny full?

Will it fill or are they going to use both courses to hold people?

RD,

I will be camping.

WJ,

They always use both courses. It would be awesome if it filled.

Kirk

Is the tourny full?

Will it fill or are they going to use both courses to hold people?



they are using both course - absolutly no way it fills

absolutly no way it fills



Never say never!! The last few years we have broken attendance records with each event.

I dont think we will fill either, but there is always a chance!

Hope to see everyone out at Cedarock this weekend, for what should be a hot place to be!! Nice and steamy!

-m

Will there be anyone there on Fri. for registration? How about doubles on Fri?
Planning on coming up Fri. and camping, looks like I'm not the only one.

Hopefully someone will be out there on Friday for pre-regs.

I will be there takeing a look at the holes from the pro pads.

Someone is supposed to be out on Friday taking pre-regs. I was told between 5-7. If your out there looking to register and dont see anyone, ask for Bobby Evans, Mike Grasse, or Rodney Gilmore. I know Bobby is the TD, but Mike and Rodney may be able to help you out.

The course is looking ooooh sooooo spectaculaur!!! Be sure to thank those club members that have been bustin' the hump to make it look nice for this event, as well as getting ready for SP in 2 months. Keep any negative comments to yourself.
The pins are in the short positions, and from the Pro pads it actually makes it a supa-sweet course. Personally my favorite setup.

If you plan on camping I would contact the park. The number is listed on this thread in a previous post. They have limited sites avail. so you want to be sure if it fills that they will still allow you to camp. In most cases it's not a big deal, just treat them nice and they will take care of you. I would also suggest that while sipping on your frosty beverage after a hot round that you either wrap it in a towel or use a cup. They are pretty cool about this, but they need to keep a handle on it, as there are others in the park using the facilities that may report it as a problem.

Be sure to drink plenty of fluids!! It's gonna be a BAKER :DI know TT is bringing' the HEAT!!

CuTTaz- you ever won this event? See yah soon.

-m-dub

CuTTaz- you ever won this event? See yah soon.

-m-dub


not yet....

I don't think I have so I'll let others have their day.

Sneaky Pete watch out.

And just when do you plan to step up and take the title Evan?

May be your weeek!

-m

maybe another 2nd

Quote:
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CuTTaz- you ever won this event? See yah soon.

-m-dub
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As an AM? ;)

bUS eM uP cuTTaz! yOU THe mANgE. aUiGHt NaU. :cool:

Simma's Summer Sizzler'

coming to a course near you!

MW

tee times and players meeting time?

For those camping at Cedar Rock..... how about a cookout Saturday night after the golfing ends..... I'm bringing a grill and a propane stove, so bring your goodies and let's throw down... I figure burgers and dogs will be easy, but if Emeril or the Iron Chef is hanging Saturday night and wants to get a bit more creative with the food.... I'm game.

aRE Dee

Here you go MTL.


Tee time both days will be

10 am

9:30 players meeting on Saturday



Of course if this runs late I can image it will be due to heavy day of registration... :confused: That is unless only about 20 people plan to play this event?

I also spoke with Bobby last night. He plans on being out at the course from 1 to 6 today. If you want to register that would be the best time to do it.

-m

I guess I will be playing: "Where's Bobby" until I find him. I am sure he won't be sitting down for that long. He will want to play.

If you are driving to Burlington anytime soon on I40, find another route. The last I heard, 40 west is shut down because of a tractor trailer wreck.

This probably means that 70 is packed now too because of it.

Heard the same thing coming into RTP this morning. I heard it was at the H55 Apex exit, so if you take 147(Durham Freeway) thru durham, you can hook back up with 85/40. This should miss it all together.

-m

Can't wait for Tommorow! The courses are in GREAT shape. Weather looks promising. See ya in the morning!

It was at the Fayetteville Street exit, and traffic was stopped(last I saw). I am trying to see if anything will be on the news now.

I hope to be out there at 2:30/3:00. Does anyone want to meet out there and show me the pro tees at Cedarock?

Cool. GL getting here then. Dont know when/if I will be out there today, but the pro pads are all pads shaped like a trapazoid. Hope that helps.

Jake your right, the course loook SWEEEEEEET!

See yah in the AM

-m

When is the gate opening at the park tomorrow? I think it is usually 8:00. Watson? Anyone?

Last I heard(about 4 hours ago), the gates will still be opening up at 8. Bobby said he would try to get them to open it up earlier for Sneaky Pete.

The course is looking great. Bring plenty of fluids.

There are roughly 150 spots still open!

Gates Open at 8:00.

Like cheat said, we will try to get them open by 7 or 7:30 for SP.

Weather looks great for golf! If you like it HOT, HOT, HOT...

GL to everyone!

-m

where are the results at?

It takes me a while to drive home and format them Mr. Pink Panties.. :p

The scores are posted here (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4190)

BOOO Norris for calling me that

YAY Norris for putting the scores up

a big thanks to Bobby Evans and everyone involved with running a smooth tournament in Burlington.

The courses looked the best I have ever seen them - it was the little things, like the tees being painted, that is what takes a course to the next level.

Good Shooting GTW, LBL, Snoop.

Way to go BO - takin home another one - I hear ya

Good shooting Yhanni - 4 solid rounds of golf man


Another congrats to Monica for winning, and to all the winners this weekend.

Ams- see ya next weekend
Pros - see ya in 2 weeks

Final Results are posted (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4190).

Thanks to Bobby Evans, Mike Grasse, and Michael Watson for a well run event.

Congratulations to all the winners!

J

I'd like to thank those responsible for the work done on both courses! The pads looked great! Also thanks to those who ran the tourny including Bobby, Michael W., Mike G. and everyone else.
Congrats to Bobby for shooting scores that made me feel old. Congrats to GTW, who was exhausted after his comeback one-stroke win over LL. Congrats to everyone that took my loot, including Mike E. who shot a sizzling hot last round.

PS GTW - best speech ever :D

CuTTaz is a man.

Hey Vince, For those of us not in attendance, fill us in.

Thanks to Bobby Evans and crew for running a great tourney! The course was in superb shape! Keep up the good work.

BTW- I gave myself a pat on the back for starting in 10th this morning and finishing 3rd. :D

A big hand goes out to all of the ADV. golfers who played with the big boyz this weekend. Keep 'em coming

walt, u mean all two of them???

GTW pretty much said that even though winning is great, but what is better is that he has a loving wife and nice house to come back to.

Hey, atleast they had the balls to play up a division. That deserves some kind of recognition doesn't it. :D

PS GTW - best speech ever :D




GTW = the speech master

He was in tears at crosstown after thanking CHH for introducing him and teaching him the game.

Last weekend he was like I came out here and shot what I wanted to, and lost by 9 - a lot of people are flat out lieing when they say congrats to the winner when they got second, but walt just killed everyone

i guess so - i mean, I don't enjoy wasting money to get destroyed by pros like you

wait, thats exactly what I'm doing in two weekends......

First of all, GTW lost by ten last week.
Second, what was so special about his speech tonight? I had to leave and didn't hear it. :(

Walt...read my last post. I didn't really think it was anything special. But to each his/her own.

like the plankster said, he said win or lose, i get to go home to a loving wife and beautiful home, and thats what important.

Great speech, and how true - I love GTW - great attitude

He's becoming the speach master. He should run for office. :D

The only complaint that I have about this weekend is that a lot of AMs, need to definately learn the rules and not get pissy when someone is trying to help them and let the know what the rules say.

I know I definately don't have fun out there when I have to pay attention to what other people are doing.

Gongrats to Team OFDA members Nate & BS gettin' up in tha cash.

The only complaint that I have about this weekend is that a lot of AMs, need to definately learn the rules and not get pissy when someone is trying to help them and let the know what the rules say.

I agree that AMs not knowing the rules is a problem. (Probably wouldn't hurt for some pros to review the rules either, but that's another issue.) I've pulled aside AMs to explain a rule at just about every tournament I've been at this year prior to this past weekend (the exception being the Pro Crosstown). The only reason I didn't have to on Sat. was 'cuz I hung with the Pros. :D

None of the AMs I've spoken to about a rules issue have gotten pissy about it. (Of course, it probably helped that I wasn't playing, so they realized I wasn't trying to 'work" them.) I've also found it helpful to wait until after they've thrown and to preface my explanation with something like, "Just for future reference, you should know that ..." then show them the rule. That way, they realize they're going to "get away" with the rules infraction they just committed this time, but will know not to do whatever it was they did in the future. (I know, I know: "ignorance of the rules is no excuse"; but it may be an extenuating circumstance.)

Thanks to all who make this a smooth tourny! Nice shooting and TDing Bobby. Watson, Grasse, and the grounds crew did a great job working on the course. Vince, its a shame you had to run a mile before the last round, If I knew there was a 'second' shuffle of the cards, I would have known you were in my group. Had a blast, great tourny, great people. One of my favorites!

Thanks everyone for the kind words. There has been a lot of work put into the courses over the last few months, and it shows! Thanks to all that helped be a part of that.

Great show this weekend! Hot weather and hot golf! Well not mine, but I had a blast. Saturday my money maker just wasn't fallin like it could of. It happens. Sunday worked a little better, but I will be back.

Great Shootin Bobby!!! Incredible play all weekend long!! Karma was on your side this weekend bro!!

Nice hard fought win GTW! Your the man!!

Thanks to my playin partners, Jake(dey still spinnin)L., Mooky-ooky-ookee, P2, Snoop, Dan, Sheffie, and of course CuTTaz! First time ever playin with you J-land, and I cant wait for you to shift to the dark side for good. Your a trip man. Had a blast, and I would play in your group anytime!

A BIG thanks for my nations capital players that ventured down below the MDL. I love you guys! Get some rest, BC. You my boy blue!! GL in the worlds, I hope to see you both back at the house for Sneeky Pete!! Your always welcome!!Same goes to my boy GTW! I swear you win every time you stay with me in Canterwood. Its the mushrooms!! :D


A big thanks to Zonedriven for there continued support, as well as Innova, and the Parks department for all the help they have been giving us lately.

A HUGE thanks to Mike Norris for posting scores for us! They were up each evening, and were posted well inside the PDGA guidelines for a B Tier event. Regardless of pink panties lack of patience. Pull em out of the crack and relax!

Hope to see everyone back at the Sneeky Pete in 2 months.

Buy a CFR and support the cause!!

m-dub out

Norris-

Those round ratings seem really low! Are they correct??

Thanks again man!

-m

Why Norris? The PDGA scoring software does that. As a td, you should know this.

Chris Hysell, Michael Watson's personal critic.

I wasnt the TD. Besides me and Mike had a discussion on this, so back off! How did it go this weekend? DOnt see any scores posted? Win another protected division event?

see you at the Pete!

no, he had to step up

Funny college boy. I did not win another age protected event. I played open and prevented some higher rated players from making the finals. I finished 3rd in the Open. I'm sure Bobby Evans forgot to thank me for staying in Va. I know it was on his mind.

Norris-

Those round ratings seem really low! Are they correct??

Thanks again man!

-m


why was a 50 at wellspring in the afternoon rated the same as a 52 in the morning? i guess the trees shrunk in the afternoon heat, and the course played 2 strokes easier.

Nice shootin' master man! Was there even enough masters for a division? :D

Im pretty sure even your fabulous forehand couldnt of stopped Bobby this weekend! Kid was on Fiiiiyyyaaaaa....

You'll get your chance in a month or so.

Evan-

Dont know? They just seemed really low for everyone. I guess I need to speak with the Bill Gates of the PDGA.

-m

Bobby was other-worldly - mere Masters were not capable of competing against him this weekend. His score would have won the Open Division by two strokes. Over some pretty fair NC golfers named Greg Williams, Larry Leonard, Walter Haney and others.

But Hysell, outside of Bobby we had a very competitive group in Masters. 2nd through 5th were separated by just one stroke!

Bobby did this while TD'ing one of the best run t'ments in Burlington in quite a while.

Thanks to all! Especiallly Bobby, Mike Grasse, Michael Watson, Rodney Gilmore for the superb condition of the courses. Let's all get ready for the Sneaky Pete!

I predict a new record for largest turnout for a NC PDGA event at this year's Sneaky Pete.

LW

You need to consider the fear factor. A couple of my well placed forehand shots could make anyone lose their fffiiiiiyyyyaaa.

You were only gonna cool him off if a few of those forehands were thrown in the water. The splash your disc made may of cooled him off. But he would of thanked you as it was close to 100 degrees this weekend. It would of been refreshing for him. He would of said "thanks, I had a 2."

His game was untouchable this weekend. But I did miss yah if that makes your head any bigger.

-m

Congrats to all of you..great shootin Yahnnie ,Cuttaz &amp; MTL...

And I must say GTW has one of the best attitudes of any disc golfer I have ever met... he goes there to play the sport and have fun no matter if he wins or loses.. I have never seen him w/ a bad attitude.. but then again I'm not around him like many of you are.. but for him to say great things about his wife ... 'that's the bomb'..and I do think that is what made it a 'special' speech for some of you that don't think so.... behind every disc golfer guy..is a woman that puts up w/ him ... :D

Walt, that is the most badass avatar i've ever seen.

Fossil Hill is calling........Who will answer?.........Lot's of good golfers don't know what they're missing. Consider yourself invited to Fossil Hill 2004. Sat. July 31 and Sun. Aug. 1. Draw doubles Fri. evening at 4:00. Step Up ! I'm tired of playing J-Bird and Tic-Tac! Please help me !
Later, Tim B.

Eddie, you like that?

Joy4lly, I suggest you walk with the lead group sometime. It's not as "special" as you think.

ok. Just to chime in the Ratings do seem low at this time. I think Conrad has stated that these are just preliminary ratings and the official ratings will appear with the updates as they happen.

Just so everybody knows I uploaded the results and had it so 4 different courses were played.

<table border="1"><tr><td>Layout Code</td><td>Course name</td><td>Holes</td><td>Par
</td></tr><tr><td>A</td><td>Cedarrock Pro Pads/Short Pins</td><td>20</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>B</td><td>Cedarrock Am Pads/Short Pins</td><td>20</td><td>60
</td></tr><tr><td>C</td><td>Wellspring Pro Pads</td><td>18</td><td>54
</td></tr><tr><td>D</td><td>Wellspring Am Pads</td><td>18</td><td>54</tr></td></table>

Then I have the following for the divisions and the courses played.

<table border="1"><tr><td>Division</td><td>Round 1</td><td>Round 2</td><td>Round 3</td><td>Round 4
</td></tr><tr><td>Pro Open</td><td>C</td><td>A</td><td>D</td><td>B
</td></tr><tr><td>Pro Masters</td><td>C</td><td>A</td><td>D</td><td>B
</td></tr><tr><td>Advanced Men</td><td>A</td><td>C</td><td>B</td><td>D
</td></tr><tr><td>Advanced Female</td><td>A</td><td>C</td><td>B</td><td>D
</td></tr><tr><td>Intermediate Male</td><td>A</td><td>C</td><td>B</td><td>D</tr></td></table>

If any of this seems off let me know and I will make the changes to these preliminary results.

Thanks for all of the hard work you are obviously putting in on this. It was also a pleasure to meet and play a round with you.

The Overall points standings have been updated and can be found here ncdiscgolf.com (http://home.nc.rr.com/ncdiscgolf/standings.html).

Once I get Ching and Zing Results those will be posted as well.

Let me know if there are any questions.

ok. Just to chime in the Ratings do seem low at this time. I think Conrad has stated that these are just preliminary ratings and the official ratings will appear with the updates as they happen.



It is possible that the preliminary ratings listed are correct.

I do not know the exact formula as to how ratings are calculated, but it is my understanding that if a low rated player shoots very good scores, that hurts the ratings for the field. It essentially makes the courses look easy to the ratings formula.

In this event 5 out of the 6 players who played the most above their current ratings have current ratings below 900. Here are the culprits in my opinion (name, current rating, 4-round event average above this rating):

Brian Satterfield 855 +37.50
Bobby Evans 969 +39.75
Don Murphy 885 +45.25
Rodney Gilmore 872 +46.25
Chip Wood 826 +63.50
Craig Wesnofske 845 +86.25
(Congrats to all these guys for shooting the lights out!)

There were also several players on the minus side who balanced those things out (I will not list their names and rub salt in their wounds). But, I think that since they are mainly higher rated players (920+), they will swing the average as much as those listed above.

...Vince, its a shame you had to run a mile before the last round, If I knew there was a 'second' shuffle of the cards, I would have known you were in my group.


I figured the High Point boys were 'workin' me. I'll remember that ;)

It is possible that the preliminary ratings listed are correct.



I don't know if the ratings are low or not, but they do seem to be inconsistent.... particularly for the first day. The pro field played the woods in the morning and the field course in the afternoon, while the am/advanced group played the field course first and then the woods. Everyone played the same courses on the same day and there was really no difference in weather to warrant the scores being different.

As an example..... There were 5 - 50's from the blue woods pads shot in the moring by the pros that are rated 965, while the 2 -50's shot on the same course later in the day by the advanced field are rated at 940. On the same course, the 48's shot by the pro field are rated at 988 while the same scores shot in the advanced field are rated at 965. On the second day ratings, there are still inconsistencies, but they're much smaller...... the sames scores by the pros are rated 5-6 points higher than the same scores by the am field on the same courses.

I think Mike mentioned these may even out when the actual ratings get posted....... so we'll just have to wait and see.

Either way..... it was a very well run tournament and I had a great time playing all the different variations on the courses.

aRE Dee

I would thank Scott Knapp for all his support without it I would not have been there. I would also like to thank BS Johnson for givivng a bed to sleep in. Also, I want to say thanks to Walt Haney for hooking me up woth some nice plastic. Word up to TT and PCP and OFDA. That's it and i'm out *******.

.... behind every disc golfer guy..is a woman that puts up w/ him ... :D



i wish.

.... behind every disc golfer guy..is a woman that puts up w/ him ... :D



i wish.



You can say that again.

Thank you for all the good words!! I have not always been that way, but people change!

GTW! nice. I would of thought your name may of been whitedisc-blackstamp

Had fun bro! ZGlad you came and were able to win! See you in HP next week.

-m

Joy4lly, I suggest you walk with the lead group sometime. It's not as "special" as you think.



When Wit goes pro after the 2004 Am Worlds...i'm sure one day soon i'll get to take you up on that suggestion ;)

Thanks Mike, you are a very good host, fun to be around, as long as you�re not acting like a little girl. :DI feel like I am at home, and I can�t say that everywhere I stay for tournaments. portobell's for dinner from now on!!! :cool::crazy

GTW,
You are the man...no longer the boy that alot of these peeps knew in the day. We have all changed alot, but you have always been one of the most respectful and modest people I have met in the game. You deserve all the props you are getting on this board. Mad love bro.

Damm, I had a great time this weekend. Lead card for the last round: LL, GTW, Snoop, and Bumpers...WTF happened? Oh, that's right, the lock-down thing. Thanks to my peeps in low places------>the Knappys, Action DG Gear...they make it all possible. Mad love to this tourney's staff...I heard a ton of people excited about Sneaky Pete and next year's Alamance P/A already...I can't say that those words have been heard in a while. Speaks volumes about the work and commitment they volunteered.

Enjoyed all my houseguests this weekend. You know how we get down. Had a great time with all my groups...the Fish Tent was in effect again...and the nectar was flowin'...It is good to be God.

Most of the time if you are walking with the lead group you see great shots, over and over and over and over again! I agree when that does not happen, It gets ulgy sometimes! I am guilty of that myself, but will try to control it in the future! Player attitude reflects badly on our growing sport.

BS,
I admire your self control, not just this weekend, but every time I have played this great game with you! I will see you in the lead group at OHO!!!!!!!!!

What up GTW! Glad to see you made it on the board. You're going to need a cool avatar though. Maybe a picture of that 9x Aviar!

Steve, we had a great time playing that last round with you too. Keep up the good golfing bro!

I worked on a avatar last night. It has to come from a web site? I need to figure out how to make pic. 80 x 80 or less?

use photoshop to resize and save image at 80X80, then upload onto a server somewhere, then blamo... you're a message board regular

If you need help, send it to me, [email protected]

Jake

Thanks Mike, you are a very good host, fun to be around, as long as you�re not acting like a little girl.



Nice try GTW! You know your the one acting like the little girl! :DGTW = Girl That whines


Mad love to this tourney's staff...I heard a ton of people excited about Sneaky Pete and next year's Alamance P/A already...I can't say that those words have been heard in a while. Speaks volumes about the work and commitment they volunteered.



Thanks bUMPs! Glad to hear you enjoyed the show! See you at the OHO, and hopefully closer to the top myself!

Should see some SP info become avail. shortly. We have some cool things happenin' for that one!

-m

Just saw the new player ratings update and the Alamance Pro-Am wasn't included..... Does anyone know if the "official" results were sent in yet?

I saw that as well? Those were sent in about 4 days after the event??

-m