Has anyone every tried training with a 200g Condor or Zephyr to build up arm strength? Or is that counter productive, and will make you lose touch and form?

I doubt it would make a great deal of difference throwing a 200 gram disc versus a 170 gram disc, at least as far as arm strength is concerned. It's about an ounce difference between the two, so you probably can increase strength about the same with either.

Technique, on the other hand, might be improved using the larger discs. I don't know much about that personally, but a lot of people encourage using Rocs and Sharks, which are larger diameter discs, to learn good technique. Leads me to think that at least a Condor might work along the same lines.

--Josh

They need to come out with a "medicine disc" so we can train like basketball players train with medicine balls! :p

Heavy weight can help your strength if you need it. It can also hurt you if you are not careful.. Lighter weights are better for improving technique. The lighter, the better. Because of the accelerative forces involved in throwing, 20 grams can make a big difference. I used to train with 300 gm discs for strength and 105 gms for technique.

300g! Is that legal?!? That hurts thinking about it.

300 gr. disc...I'm stuck throwing, light weight boxes for semi-practice at work... Where'ld you get a 300 g. disc...
Medicine Ball concept... check out this article...
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/17/1676_51240.htm
hope the link works /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
thing is what about rep's... I get my hands on a big 300 gr. disc I'm gonna want to throw a couple more of 'em to stretch my muscles back out.... the article at webMD... brings up the argument if it would improve any accuracy or not... Hear your body's the thing your arm says "Ouch.." you better give it a break... and take a few days off...

../ty

... Where'ld you get a 300 g. disc...



They know not with whom they speak! :D

300g! Is that legal?!? That hurts thinking about it.



For training, yes; for competition, no:

<font color="blue">Rule 805 - Measurement Reference and Technical Standards
B.The guidelines for golf discs are set forth in the PDGA Technical Standards Document. To be legal in PDGA competition, a disc must:
(6)not exceed 200 grams in weight;</font>

... Where'ld you get a 300 g. disc...



They know not with whom they speak! :D



Yeah. :D

Here's a small hint hint. (http://www.innovadiscs.com/aboutus.html) :D

I was being sarcastic. But, I didn't know the PDGA had a weight limit. I had thought the weight limit was based on diameter. This is good info. So an old Whamo 100 mold weighing over 200g is illegal? Interesting.

Why not get some duct tape and tape two 150g class discs together and throw em. That'll work

nothing over 200 is legal regardless of diameter. I would just put a 40 mold inside of a 100 mold and voila...a 300 gm disc. I don't do this anymore as I would probably hurt myself. I do use very light discs for technique improvement still.

I think a 200g disc is not the way to train, unless you plan to throw that disc in competition. There are products like the equilizer out there to develop the muscles used in disc golf. But the best is PRACTICE, and trial and error. Go to a field, throw, watch, and learn.

Dave,
Has it always been illegal to play with a 200g disc? I've got an old '88 F15 Eagle Lightning disc that shrunk. I was told it was illegal because the weight vs. the diameter. I appreciate the info on this.

It has not always been illegal past 200 gms, but it was changed around 1983 or so. We used to play with discs up to 265 gms or so. When the 8.3 gm per centimeter limit came in, I believe the 200 gm limit followed closely for any disc regardless of how big the diameter.

vincevaughn13:
The duct tape suggestion gave me an idea. You could take an old disc and duct-tape something flat and heavy to it and use it for strength training. A flat metal disc would be ideal, but you could use a flat bar of metal also.
Of course, you'd have to also keep throwing regulation plastic to maintain control of accuracy and finesse.

P.S.
If you make a 'weight disc,' don't throw it anywhere where it might hit someone! :eek:

My first "golf disc" was a white World Class 165 that I put a small crack in the center of doing a foot-tap while playing catch. I used some fiberglass stranded packing tape (we called it "strapping tape") to put a big "X" across the middle with the crack down the middle of a line. Then I put another big "X" on the bottom. Then I got carried away and put a smaller "x" through the gaps on top and bottom. And then I put a smaller pieces around the edge near the rim "for balance".

Needless to say I really started whoopin' my stock-165 friends at Morley with that puppy! :)

I guess I am saying you could use duct tape by itself to add considerable weight to your disc.

i duck taped up a whamo once it made it about 180-190g and it flew as stable as a spunt roc. it was great for long distance catch.

Where can I get a spunt Roc?
I thought they were out of print!
;)