It's time to give some mad DG props to all those **** good TD's out there who bust there butts to give us excellent tournies to lose our money at.

My vote for best TD ever is.....

Doug Peyton, From Cedar Rapids IA.

He runs the best tournies ever. Ask anyone who has ever been there, they will agree.

I have more suggestions for good TD's, but lets see what else flows from yall.

You know I wanted to start this thread before, but never got around to it. And you know what? I wanted to say that DOUG PEYTON from Cedar Rapids, Iowa is without a doubt the best TD ever!!!! He certainly runs the very best events in the Midwest. The Cedar Rapids Open (formerly: Gotta Have My Disc Golf Jones) and The Legion of Doom are his events, and they are not to be missed.

Can you say "Added CASH"?? How about lunch cooked to order? He also has some of the best tournament staff in the country.(Trish, Candy, Aaron, KJ, Benda and more.) These tournaments are also supported by all the members of the Cedar Rapids Disc Golf League. He also runs the weekly league in Cedar Rapids with over 80 players per week. And, to top it off, he usually wins his own events! :eek: (Ok, as a master this last year.) I can't even play in my own events, let alone win them! How about the temporary course he single handedly designed and put in for last year's Legion of Doom??? I hope that can be permanent, as I would put it as one of my top ten courses! Doug has also stepped up and ran some of the Iowa City tournies in past years. I just can't say enough. HE IS THE MAN!!!! :cool:

Note: Added money is now at Legion of Doom in the spring.

gary lewis

joliet area

condor and friends

ft wayne, in

love those spider baskets at swinney

I think all Texas TDs are great. :) However, special props this year go to Dave Moody and crew for the seamless staggered starts/smooth play at COTO and to Terry Toolen and crew for the fastest score posting in history. (After turning in your card, you seem to almost instantly know where you stand on the scoreboard)

Jonathon Poole and Billy Crump --- USDGC all the way!!!!
Schweb

Ed Garris (SC Championships)

JOSE MENDOZA!!!! Oklahoma is blessed to have such a hard working, fun loving TD/Player.

Chris Himing

Oklahoma has another great TD in addition to Jose` Mendoza and that would be Wayne Forest. Both of these guys are CLASS acts.

Nobiya Kobiyashi & Kozo Shinbo - Japan Open
Tony Ellis - West Virginia Open

We solute you!

Nobiya Kobiyashi & Kozo Shinbo - Japan Open
Tony Ellis - West Virginia Open

We solute you!



SOLUTE?

I can only [*****]-UME thats SALUTE?!

There are a lot of great TD's out there and Texas easily has it's fair share.

However, my vote would have to go to the "short bearded one" from San Saba.

Brian Mace and crew(The Big Show).

There are a lot of great TD's out there and Texas easily has it's fair share.

However, my vote would have to go to the "short bearded one" from San Saba.




I'd like to add Jim Mozola in with those ranks. :D

I have to say harvey barger in winfield kansas is the best TD. if you have been to the octoberfriz you probably know what i mean. :D

It's nice having my own personal ASSistant spell checking for me. Thanks Cong your bonus is in the mail. :D

Kevin
Help the kids
2001 USDGC Innova CE ROC

It's nice having my own personal ASSistant spell checking for me. Thanks Cong your bonus is in the mail. :D


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Not a problem....

Top 5 TD's in no particular order:

John "GIMP" Edwards
Mark "H.C.F." Atwood
Chris "Kangaroo" Himing
"Shotgun" John Houck
Brian "PizzaGod" James

They all run TOP NOTCH events, and Im not sure I could pick one over another in that group....

Year later now, and I still goTTa go with Jonathan Poole USDGC

No love for the East Carolina University Open TD - MTL!!

J Poole has nothing on me

WTFE tizzle, you ran a smooth event but it was no USDGC

Top 5 TD's in no particular order

1. Joey Harrell- Waco Charity Open
2. Dave Moody- Red Rock Show
3. Chris Himing- Coastal Clash and TX 10 events
4. Doug Rogers- Pecan Park Open
5. John "Gimp" Edwards- GCCS series

How about depth in one team? The Ann Arbor Club has more than a dozen high-quality TDs to call on.

I can see Joey and Chris being on that list, but those other guys are not even close to being the Best TD Ever. Heck not even the best in Texas. Chris had more players in one event than those other guys had all year long.

I was kinda hurt with that list also....but I don't need to be told "I am good" I know I is good :D

Cris and Teresa Bellinger: The TD's of the still growing Oregon Series and the Beaver State Fling that is helping to put Oregon DG on the map.

Jason Southwick & Steve Dodge. MSDGC (& poolball): super-professional, super-competitive, super-fun, a SHOWCASE for the sport!! :)

MTL is the best ever TD

scott knapp is the best TD in NC so i'm told

MTL is the best ever TD


correct

Some who have been there might vote for Paul B, the TD for the Toronto Island Open. He and his temporary sidekick MaceMan basically run a big tournament by themselves w/o a club or organization to help them.

I'm trying to remember which TD it was that had a $30,000 hole-in-one during one of the largest disc golf weekends of the year (182 AMs and 127 Pros)?

Or which TD it was that donated over $40,000 to the Lance Armstrong Foundation via his tournaments?

Oh, that's right...Chris Himing.

There really isn't another TD in all of disc golf who has done more positive work for disc golf, the disc golf community, and the public perception of disc golf than our Texas-adopted Australian friend.

The rest of this thread is really about who might be the 'second' best TD in the country.

Go ahead, lay your facts out if you think your guy did better. I'll bet you dimes to nickles your guy (or gal) doesn't match up. The free beer at every event is just a bonus (as are the Hooters girls serving lunch at many of his events).

Rooster I would have to disagree with you on that, but Facts are Facts and CHRIS HIMING is by far the BEST TD in the WORLD and althought there are alot of Great TD's out there they are second to one CHRIS HIMING

Dosen't he make money by organizing DG events? He has a BIG advantage because that's his job, whereas most other TD's LOSE money promoting and organizing DG events. If DG was big enough to support multiple full- time promoters and TD's then I think he would have some more competition.
From a non- texan standpoint he is at the top of the list, but partially because of the reason I mentioned above.

Actually, because Chris put so much back into his tour and his main sponsor cant sponsor (they way they have sponsored inthe past) because of TABC. Chris is taking a year off from running the Texas 10 events.

What is going to happen is several of us local TDs will be running our local Texas 10 with Chris's guidance to keep the events going this year. This will give Chris time to pay off some debts and look for a title sponsor again.

But I will say that Chris raized the bar for Texas Tournaments. All tournaments are compaired to his now.

Doesn't he make money by organizing DG events?



Well, that is the theory, but like many others before him, he has discovered that disc golf alone won't pay the bills, and corporate sponsorship is hard to come by.

What he has done is over the past few years has been signifigant. His tour has donated enough money to the LAF to get noticed. Though his tour is largely unsanctioned, it has introduced a large number of the current touring PDGA players in Texas to competitive disc golf and produced many quality players that may have never gone to a tournament without the TX10 to get them started. This has led to other TDs starting largely unsanctioned series of events as well, and I hope that those are equally successful at increasing PDGA membership in Texas.

Rooster I would say that you are right if this was the best TD of the past 2 or 3 years, but it is "Best TD ever!" and I would like to nominate John Houck. I think the facts lead further up the Disc Golf Family Tree than you are going. Although some TD's are certainly getting close to running as many events as he has, he still has a few more events under his belt than anyone else.

I suggest that you check out the history of Disc Golf in the State of Texas as well as in the USA. You will find that he did more for the sport in Texas than you are giving credit for. In fact it is likely that the Texas 10 would not exist if it weren't for Houck employing Chris when he came to the USA. Not to mention supplying Chris with much of the plastic he has paid out in the events. And furthermore the fact that Chris helped operate several of the Circular Productions events while he was employed there must have had an influence on the way he runs events himself.

It is very likely that Houck designed some of your favorite courses in TX. The Innova Course Installation brochure states that he has designed over 50 courses. I think that number has to be a bit low, but the bulk of them are in Texas. I would go so far as to say that he designed more courses in Texas than any other designer.

He ran the Pro World Championship 2 times, 1994 and 1995, and almost got roped into it again until The HFDS said they would take it on in 2002. That is two events that last over a week, not just one or two days.

He was the first person to run a tour, starting back in the 80's, that's right I have a Circular Skies Over Texas Tour stamped disc from 1987. The Circular Skies Tour was the first series of it's kind in Texas and likely in all of disc golf. One of the things that he did was guarantee $500 for first in Open. That brought in the likes of Steve Valencia, Dan Ginley, Scott Stokely and many other legendary names to Texas before they were legends back in the 80's.

One of the really innovative things he did through the tour was collect a player fee that accumulated to pay for the installation of a nine hole course here and there throughout the state. I am not sure where all the nine hole courses were installed, but there was more than one. I do know that the last one was the front nine at Z Boaz in Ft Worth. All of the Ft Worth golfers are grateful for that start on what has become one of the best courses in the state. That contribution alone (all of the baskets donated) is still contributing to the sport across Texas today.

He also started National Doubles for Am and Pro. He ran them all and then they turned into World Doubles, and he ran them too.

He ran the Waterloo Classic and Park Pete Open for years on the first course in Texas, and countless other events. The Texas State Overall Championship 2 times. Not to mention countless one round weekly events over the years.

Worlds Biggest Disc Golf Weekend has to be one of the best introductory tools the sport has seen to date, he did that too.

His vision and plan has him so far ahead of the rest of us that he has installed 2 resorts in the state. There is no possible way that this will pay off any time soon, it must be for the future.

I almost forgot, he is also in the Disc Golf Hall of Fame. He was Commissioner once. He is on the board of The Disc Golf Foundation. He designed a course at the Disc Golf Center in Augusta.

With all due respect, there is another person and maybe many other people that have been here the entire time laying the ground work so that Chris and many other TD's could go even farther and make their impact on the sport in the state.

Disc Golf was not invented in this decade or the one previous, there are people who have been working at this for multiple decades and they have made it possible to do all of the cool things that are going on now to make this game great. I think that your stance diminishes the efforts that others have put forth to make it possible for the great things that are happening now. You are not giving any credit for actions that have spanned decades in cities across the state and across the country and made it possible to even have a list of events that is as long as the one in Texas, let alone the world.

Maceman 1..Roosterboy 0. Good post. The most generous TD I have ever known is Mr. B in Toronto.

great post mace!!!!!!! very interesting!!!

great post Mace- enjoyed reading it!

From the 1999 Disc Golf Hall of Fame induction:

Without a doubt, there is no one more devoted to the sport of disc golf than Tim Selinske.

When Tim is directing an event, there is this noticable 'calm'; a feeling that everything is 'being taken care of'. "Good hands", etc.

...also directs a Major; directed the FIRST EVER National Tour event.

yeah what mace said......That lil hobbit is my hero :D
The trenches of disc golf were dug by many and long ago. What you all are seeing now is the benefit of the trench diggers.
Chris has done some great things but to raise the bar, you have to have a bar mark to work from.

yeah what mace said......That lil hobbit is my hero :D



hey now V, you know we got a patent on that term, you might be owing us some royalties :D

lmao....my bad

That lil hobbit is my hero




So are you saying you look up to him. :D

ps. I wouldn't have posted this lame joke except that I know John periodically looks these things up and it will bother him. By the way, I must use the phrases "Houck" or "course design god" so his searches will catch this post. :p

Oh yea, John is also a great TD and an awesome guy and taught Chris everything he knows about player meeting speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech es.

lol
no he looks up to me....I just make sure nothing up high falls on him :D

Mace, I concede.

I was thinkng more in terms of the last two or three years.

I've had the good fortune of meeting John on many occassions and playing at his courses (San Saba is the Meca of disc golf)...and not only has he done an immeasurable amount of good for disc golf, but he's one of the nicest people I've ever met.

Mace makes a very valid point here. Often we forget just how much went on before. John isn't the only player/TD to make big contributions. Who else is out there that isn't being considered here?

2 or 3 years?
I think something that needs to be considered is the length a TD has been carring the same event. But then this ain't some contest. The whole "my tournament is bigger than yours" has to stop. I am guilty of this. But I realize now if we work together we can make all events successful.

C. Howard. Ran the first Dogwood Classic I played in. If you were there, you'll remember "this is the road, this is the curb..."(repeat about a dozen times)

Scott Knapp ran a smooth event. Payout for the open was at about 200% of entry fee, plus players packs.

Diamond Dave McQuay. "Best player meeting speech ever"

Oh, and Mtl for the Heluva it

Mace makes a very valid point here. Often we forget just how much went on before. John isn't the only player/TD to make big contributions. Who else is out there that isn't being considered here?



uhh.. STEADY ED!!!!!!!

We'd have to check with the oldtimers but TDing disc golf might be one of the few areas Ed didn't do much. I remember some small events out at Lakeport. However, he was always there for big events as a sponsor.

He ran some tournies in Cali, even in the 90's. He may not have run a large # of them, but we wouldn't even have them w/o him.

Ed's accomplishments are legendary but I was considering the thread title...

god bless ED
but he wasn't a T.D. or a saint. He made a great basket!

That is why I quote the post before mine that related to Contributions to Disc Golf, not just running tournies.

Houck definately has my vote from the point of view of how many courses he has put in the ground. I doubt anyone can touch that record, but I could be wrong.

Who else is out there that isn't being considered here?

Mark Horn, set to oversee the 27th CONSECUTIVE Wintertime Open[s] this Feb. It's like, an ANCHOR on the tour. Mark's a recent DGHOF inductee, largely for said accomplishment.

has Horn do it all 27 years?

Let's just say Houck keeps checking my website to make sure he's still in the lead on number of courses :D

http://dgbydesign.ck34.net/resume.htm

Mark Horn. (http://www.julianakorver.com/Fame/2003.html#mark)
Good question. The bio above seems to indicate the Horn family DIDN't one year, if by '25' they don't mean "25+".

How many did Ed put in the ground?

We'd have to check with DGA to see if they have any records for ones Ed actually designed. Over the years, I would think he might have done close to 100. Tom Monroe and John David were active regional designers for Ed and did quite a few of the early courses and Tom's still doing a few.

THE DGA website state he designed over 200 courses. I know he put Will Rogers in Oklahoma City back in the late 70's.

I thought this thread was about T.D's? :confused:

Hands down Chris Himing ,enough said .Ok Jay Reading worlds is pretty awesome too.

I have to agree 100% with MaceMan.

One minor typo/correction: Houck ran the Texas States Flying Disc Championships (overalls) for at least 10 years.
I have one of the jackets from year 10 that has the previous 9 logos on it.

I won't vote but I appreciate the comments. I will say however that it is not always learning from good TD's. Some of the things I have learned have come from watching and learning from other people mistakes. It is also about as a player what I liked in an event and a TD.

I will say I have learnt a lot from watching and helping run events with Tim Selinske. A genuine nice guy and a great TD.

"learnt" :confused: You are becoming a true Texan, mister!

That chrishysell guy brings a great attitude.

and his choice for transportation keeps us all from looking like poor hippies.

"learnt" :confused: You are becoming a true Texan, mister!



That or hanging out with Vinnie too much :D:p

He needed a 5 gallon bucket to stand on to view through my telescope yet we put our pants on the same way in the morning....
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.Mr. John Houck! Thaks for all you've done.:D

Did someone nominate jason southwick for TD errrr.......... "entertainment director" of the year?

lol that chris feller picks up enough them rocks and he will be able to speak a lil texan too. :D
Jason.....shut your donkey! :D

2 or 3 years?
I think something that needs to be considered is the length a TD has been carring the same event. But then this ain't some contest. The whole "my tournament is bigger than yours" has to stop. I am guilty of this. But I realize now if we work together we can make all events successful.



I guess your experience is adding up V. Like your excellent work at Waterloo this year! Everything you do for some other event around here is welcomed and appreciated. I'd like to mention Dave Tayloe as "one of many" TD's that I'd like to thank for sharing his time with discgolf. If you have not heard from him lately, call him. He has had a bad turn in his health and 2005 is not looking good. I talked to him yesterday and he is homebound right now. May be another thread topic? I just thought everyone should know.

yeah I had fun with that.
I really like that carny pitch I did to raise money for the last round.

Top 5 TD's in no particular order

1. Joey Harrell- Waco Charity Open
2. Dave Moody- Red Rock Show
3. Chris Himing- Coastal Clash and TX 10 events
4. Doug Rogers- Pecan Park Open
5. John "Gimp" Edwards- GCCS series




I chose this list based on events that I have played so far, I played in one of Macemans events last weekend and enjoyed it. Due to something coming up everytime that Vinnie has an event, I havent had the pleasure of playing in any of his events. So no harm meant.

Holy cow. Thank you, Brian Mace, and everyone else for the kind words.

I was going to make a joke about Chris learning from my mistakes, but of course he beat me to it.

Running several tournaments a year is a tough gig, as a few people around the country (including Brian) have learned. It's really good to see that there are players out there who appreciate that effort. Be good to your TD's -- they burn out easy.

Of course the greatest disc TD of all time is Stork.

John you will always be #1 in my book :D
We will quit talking good about you ....now that you know we are talking about you....
I am sure there is a poem I could work on something like
In the small world of T.D.'S stands a small man....more to come latter :D