I just switched to the lob-style putt recently. At what distance are players switching from that to a more traditional delivery?
At about 47.6 feet the lob putt becomes inaffective. http://pdga.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif
I think I use what would be described as the lob putt, and if I would guess that 75% of my putting is done that way - regardless of distance. Factors like wind, obstructions, and the layout of the "green" might make me putt something other than a lob.
At the Stokely clinic in Dallas Scott described his long range putting strategy (which he also does on discraft.com's site) and he basically lobs it high and right of the basket when he is far out.
I think more important is that you are comfortable putting in a variety of styles. Personally I prefer a hyzer, lobbed putt that hits the chains dead center / low and falls on its back - but I practice putting hard and flat, with anhyzer, etc, because there are always situations on the course that demand something other than your standard putt.
btl.
I definitely agree with Brian that it is important to practice putting different ways. Each of us has his preferred or "A" style putt, but my experience is that about 1/3 of the time I find myself putting a different way depending on obstacles, drop-offs, wind, etc. Occasionally the baskets dictate a different style as well. I usually putt low and flat and fairly fast, but my only tournament win came at Rockledge, FL with its old, old school baskets where I threw everything to drop about 10 inches in order to avoid bounce-outs. Peace.
Depends on the player, technique, and disc. When the wind is light, I can lob a puppy/rattler type disc till maybe 80 feet. The problem is that you need to lob it REALLY high and in the NW at least, that eliminates about 40% of your putts. -- kurt from Seattle
bschweberger
Jan 16 2006, 08:11 PM
Insane Bayne RaTTler, I have seen its Magic in person.
MTL21676
Jan 17 2006, 01:17 AM
I straddle "lob putt" and I can hit putts up to around 90 feet doing the straddle lob as long as its not windy
adogg187420
Jan 17 2006, 01:23 AM
Is a lob putt how Brinster putts?
rhett
Jan 17 2006, 01:34 AM
I lob putt and I'd say the limit is about 1 round out of 50 to have a good putting round.
Greatzky2
Jan 17 2006, 03:15 AM
I lob/push putt and my limit is about 30feet from a standstill.. Then i go to a Jump putt with my lob/push style probably no further than 50 feet. Anything outside of that is a jump spin putt which i've been doing very well with lately.
I can't spin putt to save my life inside of 30, but I can do it pretty well outside 50-60 feet.
-Scott Lewis
davei
Jan 17 2006, 09:56 AM
For the sake of clarification and communication: A lob/pitch/shovel putt is not a push putt. A push putt has the finger on the back of the disc pushing through the disc. There are several types of push putts such as the basketball, turbos, and the one or two finger classic type push. The classic push has the wrist open with the index finger open and along the back of the rim of the disc. The finger pushes the disc forward as the wrist closes, and the disc rolls off the finger. The lob/pitch putt is distinguished by starting close to the ground and ending up around face level upon release. This is much like throwing a horse shoe and can be done backhand, straddle, or forehand side like a horse shoe. The fly/spin putt is characterized by staying at one level from start to finish. To call this a "spin" putt is a little misleading as it can have a lot or a little spin depending on who is doing it. Similarly, the pitch putt can have a lot or a little spin depending. I have never heard, or don't remember hearing a good definitive name for a fly/spin putt.
sandalman
Jan 17 2006, 11:14 AM
i lob putt with taillwinds or crossing tailwinds (anytime the wind conditions will make the disc drop). but never into a headwind. also lob putt to get around/through obstacles/openings as the situation dictates. a straight tailwind lob putt is effective for me out to 100 feet. since it is so hard to go past the basket with a tailwind lob putt you can really give it a good run and know that at worst you'll have a 12 foot tailwinder, which is a 100%'er.
DSproAVIAR
Jan 17 2006, 11:48 AM
i lob putt with taillwinds or crossing tailwinds (anytime the wind conditions will make the disc drop). but never into a headwind.
How do you putt in a headwind?
Chris Hysell
Jan 17 2006, 11:54 AM
1/2 - 3/4 power required to get there and flat with a flippy putter
DSproAVIAR
Jan 17 2006, 12:00 PM
flat at the pole with an understable putter?
Chris Hysell
Jan 17 2006, 12:48 PM
At the chains will lift slightly and then fall. At the pole sounds nose down which will put you on the ground.
cbdiscpimp
Jan 17 2006, 03:34 PM
I putt like Feldburg and Climo and Jenkins and they called it a push putt when teaching me so thats what I have been calling it but from what Dave has said its a Pitch putt. I can use it affectively out to about 35-40 ft on a regular putt then I switch to a straddle Jump Pitch from about 40-50 and outside of 50 I switch to a straddle jump spin putt. The best thing about the lob/pitch putt is that when you miss its almost always a short comeback putt barring all Tournament rolls or wierd happenings. That and when your lobbing or pitching alot more off center putts fall because the disc is already on its way down when it reaches the chains so far left and far right side putts are alot more likely to fall. I learned this style of putt in February of 05 and it has helped my game more then anything else I have learned to date. Good luck with your putting!!!
I lob/push putt and my limit is about 30feet from a standstill.. Then i go to a Jump putt with my lob/push style probably no further than 50 feet. Anything outside of that is a jump spin putt which i've been doing very well with lately.
I can't spin putt to save my life inside of 30, but I can do it pretty well outside 50-60 feet.
-Scott Lewis
Oh and Scott. Have you gotten the nose up on your putt inside the circle yet??? :eek:
sandalman
Jan 17 2006, 03:40 PM
i lob putt with taillwinds or crossing tailwinds (anytime the wind conditions will make the disc drop). but never into a headwind.
How do you putt in a headwind?
depends on strength of wind and distqnce of putt. real close in, i'll putt flat and hard. mid range (10-20') i'll putt just about normal, but perhaps a tad lower and/or more to the right of the pole (I'm lefty so a turnover moves my putt to my left). farther out and with higher winds, i'll putt with nose slightly up but with less forward speed. think of landing a jumbo-jet and you'll see why.
Greatzky2
Jan 18 2006, 05:57 PM
Millz: YOu have a pretty **** good memory for only watching me throw once... ****..
Yeah I have gotten the nose up As I've Changed my Putting style since then. I was happy with what I was doing at warwick, but my offdays were givign me short putts and nose down putts.
I've just recently(last Friday) Have simplified my putt.. I merely just think about shaking hands with the belt of the basket and I seem to release the putt very consistantly and high without much effort. I don't even think about anything else but that and it is working for now. I won the Advanced Division at the Sedegely(philly) Icebowl so I guess something os working for me..
-Scott Lewis
p.s. Hopefully I can get my Rating above yours. I only need to break 890 right? :)
quickdisc
Jan 20 2006, 05:23 PM
I lob -putt over certain objects , like bushes.