Not even sure or not if I even spelled it right or not but, Bruce Talamantes was telling a friend and I about a new course in Gonzalas, Texas. Does anybody have any info about this course?

Here you go.

<a href="http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/front/story/1361622p-1604515c.html (http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/front/story/1361622p-1604515c.html)" target="_blank">http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/front/story/1361622p-1604515c.html</A></a>

The two guys in the picture were at Pease one Saturday morning last winter. They were taking pictures and talking to people to prepare their proposal.

Wow! thats cool,I wonder if someone will be running a discgolf event there next year, sounds like a nice course.

Thank you for the heads up. Glad to see the community is so in to it there. I will be going there to throw here pretty soon.

great article,

glad to see that the community really gets behind the sport out there. 28K! Shoot. I wish that kind of money went into one course here in Austin. (Circle C) /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

El Chile, you must already know. The course was designed by John Houck. There will be a tournament at this course. PDGA tier and weekend are pending. I will let the TD make the anouncement when he is ready.

You gave it away Bryan, it must be the passionate cowboy fan.

Thanks for the article, that was really cool. 8K for promotion? Wow!

Let's hope they are wildly successful.

Uh, how did I give it away, who do you think the TD is going to be? It could be anyone.

Thanks Bryan, I did not let anything out of the bag/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif When will the anouncement be officailly made?

I have scheduled a PDGA event there on March 27-28. I am still working on the plans so we will see what happens. No more news yet, sorry.

Thanks
Chris

Bryan, I ASSuMEd too much with that El Chile connection.

Chris, a 2 day, PDGA sanctioned tourney? Way to go.

/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

I'll second what James said. BTW James , your son and I are gonna go to play golf there wanna go? Someone got Bruce Talamates phone number? He lives down that way...I think

Where in Texas is Gonzalas?

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I hope that worked

ah darnit!

Gonzales is just north of Westhoff where I used to live and just west of Shiner Bock Brewery where I used to drink. Y'all otta be able to find it now!

Ok Gonzales is on U.S. Hwy 183 between Austin and Victoria with Luling to the north and Cuero to the south. I am not sure of the GPS coordinates. Looking forward to playing the course when I visit my in-laws during the holidays. That should be more than enough info for you guys. Props to Mr. Houck and Mr. Himing for the their continuing support and promotion of disc golf in the Lone Star State.

We need to get a group together and go INVADE FOR A DAY. I know a good fishing spot as well. Who wants to go?

Glad to see that someone realizes that Gonzales has some historical significance. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

It's been a while since I took Texas history but "Come and Take It," ReddMan.

I see that it has been even longer since I had Texas history, Lou. I don't need any, thank you. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Not that much longer, Redd. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Iceman, anyone bite yet on your fishing trip. I'm tenatively in depending on the date.

You guys are way behind. It's nice to live in Victoria. Played it today. Very nice, very Riversidish. Can't wait to play it again.

Having driven through that part of Gonzales a few times I would guess the course doesn't have much elevation changes or does it?

Iceman, when were you planning to head out there?

Haven't had any takers. I am trying to change my schedule at work to 3 12hour shifts on weekends. It ain't that far so do you have time during the week. I am hoping that this week will be the change. If so I will have 6 days off and we can go any time. Taking a year off of tournaments to practice so I will be playing as much as I can. I plan on taking myself out of the ZT10 FINAL. That's how bad I've been playing.

I work Monday through Friday. It would have to be a weekend for me.

That's too bad about you game. I bet it's still not bad enough for me to be any real competition for you. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

what time are you able to play during the week?

I get out at 4:30. I don't think that's early enough to get to Gonzales and play a round before dark, especially not once the time changes.

LETS PICK A WEEKEND SOON. I DON'T THINK I WILL BE CHANKGING MY SCHEDULE THIS WEEK.

The soonest I can make it will be the weekend of November 8th. I got Waterloo, a trip to the Valley, and putting up a new fence for the suegra scheduled for the next 3 weekends.

Is this a full 18? Anyone have any hole descriptions or footage? Is the place mowed or well kept?

It is a full 18. I've never seen anything on line or anything that describes the course. It was well-maintained when I played it and I suspect it will continue to be maintained.

It's a great course and people slow down in the street to gawk and see what you're doing. In your case, they'll gawk and wonder "is that Mr. T? It is, isn't it? Call aunt Mabel, let her know." Before you know it, everyone in Gonzales and the neighboring towns of Belmont, Bebe, Smiley and Shiner will be lining the course, cheering on your every shot. After you tap in for birdie on eighteen, they will carry you off in a triumphant frenzy to the finest eatery in town, the Whataburger.

Oh, I'm sorry, I got carried away there. Y'all will be the only ones on the course. Good luck finding the holes. ;)

"First name, Mr. Middle name, Period. Last name T."

Mr. T knows lawn care (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/9540/sounds/tdirt.wav)

Apparently, Mr. T don't know internet links.

Quit your jibber jabber!! (http://www.stupid.com/stat/MRTP.html)

The Gonzales Chamber of Commerce has great course maps. I will be meeting with the city people on Tuesday to work out what we can do for each other.

The only problem I see with the city is that it's close to a beer town that I am under contract to stay clear of.

More news on Gonzales after Tuesday.

well it appears Gonzales will get played today. Just got a call from the some TD"s that are heading that way for some conversation and a walk of the course. hope all goes well

Jay Reading, Mark Atwood and I just got back from a great day in Gonzales. It really is a fun course and deserves to be played by a lot of people.

Our host for the day was awesome. Lunch was provided to us, we got the local tour and even had cold S...... delivered to Hole 10 for us in koozies. I will let Mark and Jay say how good the local barbecue was.

It is only 40 miles from San Marcos heading down Hwy 183. A very easy drive. The course is a good mixture of long and short holes. It was extremely windy today while playing which didn't help the scores.

Chris Himing - 55
Jay Reading - 55
Robert ?? - 62
Mark Atwood - 67

One highlight of the day was the local jail tour. I will try to post later the pics we took. A little scary standing atop the real gallows with a noose around your neck. 6 people were hung from there.

More good news of Gonzales very soon.

Thanks
Chris

thanks a lot for posting that score, my good friend. sheesh!

despite the beating i took, i have to say that this was not only an enjoyable day trip to an interesting little piece of texas history, but a fine course as well. its very balanced, as my score posting friend pointed out, between long and shorter holes. it makes excellent use of the available elevation (more present in the tougher back 9), and plays through and around some beautiful and large old trees. its in a park that will be easy to maintain and keep mowed. it also flows fairly well, with the only long walk between holes being from the side the front 9 is in to the back 9. and i must say that even this walk (which isn't too long, by any means) will be one of the more picturesque areas of the park as the city completes work on installing an historic old wooden and steel river bridge, purchased to be moved and placed in the middle of this park. that work is nearly complete and could be wrapped up as soon as the end of '03.

this is a great addition to texas disc golf and i can't wait to have another crack at it. i'm guessing that even in that wind (which was ridiculous), i could've shot about 6-7 strokes better. i'm looking forward to having the chance to prove it. :)

fun day, gonna sleep now. :)

Ahh, nothing beats a round of disc golf and then a tour of the gallows. :)

Is this like a hint for those that will be attending the tournament? or simply the natural inclination of any city official when seeing y'all? ;)

Actually I was thinking more like DFL James.

Keep Saturday March 27 free. That should be the first event in Gonzales. I will confirm more very soon. Would you like a PDGA one day event in Gonzales?

Jay and Mark don't want to me to do the awards at the jail. I would promise to have at least candle light. Could be interesting, the first ever event where the awards are done by candlelight. The bars and the gallows surrounding you could change the mode however. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Some players may need you to do the awards at the real jail.

A one-day PDGA event in Gonzales would be great. It's a great location for golfers in Central Texas, Corpus Christi, or Victoria. Even those Houstonians could make it in a couple hours. However, don't expect any metroplex golfers. The jail story will scare them off. ;)

I've never had the barbeque, but I heard it was in some book on the the best barbeque joints in Texas.

McCaine, you might not want to do the jail tour. They might recognize you from your free-loading hippie days. Shoot, I am surprised they event let MarkA in without thinking he was one of the parolees. :D;)

Mark was probably sweating bullets in there, just hoping the jailer wouldn't turn around and look at the "most wanted" poster behind him. Jay, while a clean living soul, has heard those stories of cowboy justice gone awry and just didn't want to chance it. :D

Hey, James- Robert Perez told me last night that your nickname ought to be "Rattler". I thought he meant that you were deadly on a DG course but then he told me the whole story......... :D

do tell? I need all the ammo I can use. ;)

martin and james, i must admit that i had the same uneasy feeling as if a hammer was about to fall, that i get when i drive through terrell, tx. i consider any experience that ends in leaving either a jail or the home of the state mental hospital to be a successful one. :)

lol
current metal condition pending

anyone have the day off today? Thinking of making a day trip out to this new course.

What the hell are you doing, with the day off?

GET TO WORK!!!!!! (jealousy related ire)

:cool:that's right. Don't hate the player, hate the game. :cool:

Gonzales = FUN.

Lots of dueces to be had out there. Nice, big concrete pads and the course is well maintained. Drop by the Chamber of Commerce and get a scorecard. Can't wait for the Himing event out there. Didn't take too long to get there but after the BBQ in Lockhart, the trip home seemed a lot longer. :D

On New years Day we had a mini in Gonzales, I shot a 50, so unless I hear otherwise that is the official course record ;) We are thinking about having the UC mini at Gonzales the last Sunday of every month. Will post once confirmed.

I think BAGSKER shot 49 : :D

Casual rounds don't count! :eek:

I should have left my scorecard at the Chamber. I knew that 49 was hawt. I'm getting all misty just thinking about having the unofficial course record. Not that it will last very long. I counted a possible. 44 out there to be had.

I think BAGSKER shot 49 : :D



and that's MR. MARTIN T. BAGGER to you, meister. :mad::D

oh sorry Mr Martin T. Bagsker! you still playing REC :eek:

don't you have some putts to miss? or a mini to throw? :D

:) thinking about sneaking in a round at bart for lunch :D

You should do a Saturday mini there. I love Sundays at UC. I don't play any minis on Saturday. Huh, huh?

Here is the footage for the course and a sneak peak at the UNOFFICIAL COURSE RECORD!! :D

Hole 1: 225 - low hyzer downhill potected by HUGE oak tree
Hole 2: 257 - uphill anhyzer. Basket protectected by trees
Hole 3: 318 - straight at it.
Hoel 4: 603 - fairway has scattered trees on both sides. Huge oak protecting the basket.
Hole 5: 276 - hyzer and anhyzer there around big oak.
Hole 6: 178 - anyhzer, side-arm with trees infront of basket.
Hole 7: 252 - tight tunnel through trees
Hole 8: 288 - can't remember. Straight shot, I think.
Hole 9: 801 - one of the best holes on the course. Long and downhill at first. Uphill after that with trees on both sides of fairway.
Hole 10: 278 - small hyzer through trees
Hole 11: 260 - anhyzer to pin. Lots of tree coverage.
Hole 12: 260 - uphill straight away. trees on right of fairway
Hole 13: 237 - uphill straight away
Hole 14: 483 - uphill. pretty clear until 60ft from pin with tree coverage.
Hole 15: 280 - downhill with low tree lim infront of teebox. Large oak in front of pin with scattered trees along the fairway.
Hole 16: 894 - downhill. Let it ride. Large line of trees makes 2nd shot very tough to manage.
Hole 17: 212 - small tunnel shot or go wide with the side-arm.
Hole 18: 516 - another great hole that plays along a small creek bed. Anhyzer over the creek, uphill with trees along the right side of fairway. Great hole to finish on.

Come get some:
1 - 3
2 - 3
3 - 2
4 - 3
5 - 2
6 - 2
7 - 3
8 - 3
9 - 4
10- 2
11- 2
12- 2
13- 3
14- 3
15- 2
16- 4
17- 3
18- 3
Total 49

also, birdies to be had on 1, 2, 7, 8, 13, 17. I would recommend this course to anyone. Then stop in Lockhart for BBQ. Can't wait to make it out again.

Are you reliving past glories? Did the townspeople carry you off after your triumph as I described? If not, they should have. They probably did not realize the awesome presence they had in their midst.

No
Yes
They knew they were in the presence of greatness when I walked onto the course.

Looks like -14 shoudl be attainable.....

Mini at Gonzales, Saturday, January 31. 9:30am tee off. Come and enjoy one of South Texas's newest courses!

Sounds Like A Plan Schmiddy :D

I like it. I'll be there.

9:30 tee off, singles, then doubles. Fun, fun, fun. Meet at the Jack-in-the-Box at Hwy 46 and I-10 at 8am if you want a ride.

Mini is on for 2/28. Should be pleasant weather.

He lives!!!

can somone send me directions from Austin to Gonzales? Thinking about making this sat. thank you

US 183 S. (about 56 miles) Left (east) on St. Lawrence St. 1.5 miles to the course. Call me if lost. 210-884-3523.

yeah. What he said. :D

Yes, we all park in between the fron and back nine. We usually do a round of singles, bag tag challenge, and then a second round of random draw dubs. Real fun, bring some friends.

THANKS Brian.

You bet. This will be a good warmup for those of you planning on playing in Chris Himing's PDGA tourney in Gonzales on March 27.

Don't worry Chris, you drive and I'll pilot, after all I'm a sky pilot :cool:

here goes another chance for me to play the course. I had planned to go but the Bob Knight show is in town @1:00pm and I have tickets. So I will have to miss AGAIN.

Get chyer Guns Up Vinnie!!

this course was a BLAST.. had a mix of everthing . Thanks Brian for Running a mini at the GREAT COURSE in BFE :D worth the drive ,

This one is going on my monthly schedule. Great job Brian on a fun course.

I beleive there was 20 people at Gonzales. right Brian?

It was 20, I know I am butting in for Brian.

sho' nuff, will have results posted soon.

Beastmaster, you feeling better now????

never met better, is she nice?

Where are the results from Saturday in Gonzales posted?

SOMEONE has not posted them yet. Waiting.........


Was that too harsh?

You must realize that the person who said they would be posted soon works for the government. So soon could mean later this year. Ha! No offense meant. I work for them also.

Or it could mean they have a lot of time on there hands. :D

I have a lot of time on my hands today. That is because Dave did not show for work today so I don't have any mistakes to correct, which means I have more time to spend on the threads.

Saving the world for democracy, so chill meanie, I mean Nellie.

<table border="1"><tr><td> Pos</td><td>Open</td><td>Score</td><td>$$
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Chris Ware</td><td>54</td><td>$22.00
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Bruce Talamantes</td><td>55</td><td>$12.00
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Brian Schmidt</td><td>57</td><td>$3.00
</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Tracy Olson</td><td>57</td><td>$3.00
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>James Pellman</td><td>61</td><td>$0.00
</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Shawn Hess</td><td>61</td><td>$0.00
</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Ricky Wright</td><td>62</td><td>$0.00
</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Martin Rendon</td><td>64</td><td>$0.00
</td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>Pos</td><td>Am</td><td>Score</td><td>Points
</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Danielle Vargas</td><td>58</td><td>14
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Jim Bob Karshis</td><td>64</td><td>9.5
</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Mike Smith</td><td>64</td><td>9.5
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Patti Justice</td><td>66</td><td>5.5
</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Bill Karshis</td><td>66</td><td>5.5
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Rick Roper</td><td>67</td><td>3.5
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Bart Brown</td><td>67</td><td>3.5
</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Paul Taylor</td><td>67</td><td>3.5
</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Tom Robinette</td><td>73</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>Tommy Isenberg</td><td>79</td><td>3
</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>Randall Karshis</td><td>83</td><td>2
</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>Tamara Wilson</td><td>86</td><td>1
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

Thanks Brian for the Democracy and the results. How about the results from Sunday? hehehehehehhehee

how about nellie and patti handing some of those guys their [*****]"S :D thanks again Brian . yours truely # 4 :o

I only make mistake when the older guy at work gives me the wrong information, besides it gives the old guy a sense of purpose which id very hard when you get 60 :eek:

Was #4 the highest number last weekend?

that would be LOWEST # .. :D

Took a little roady today and played this fine course. Can't wait till the 27th, atleast as long as it stays dry, this coarse could get pretty soggy with some rain.

Really well laid out. Who did the course design?

I beleive it's another HOUCK special

I believe C-Dub is correct. "Give the man the prize off the top shelf!" :)

I really do like this course. The only time I've played it, it was silly windy.

Hey J.A.B, what did you think of #9 (I think that's the number - last hole of the front before you cross the road that separates the two areas of the course?)?

Its one of those that I know I can 4, but I'd walk away with a 5 and not feel bad. Totally different from RM #10 at CR1, but has the same feel.

#9 (801') is a great hole, if the parks deptment keeps it mowed I'll have to work on a consistant roller.

My best hole yesterday was a 4 on the 894' #16, followed by my worst, a 4 on the 212' #17 :o

Don't forget to come to the Gonzales "C"-Tier March 27. One day, two rounds, run by TD God Himing. Awesome course. Sign up on titledisc.com!

Anyone posted a hole by hole breakdown with hole lengths, and descriptions??

I started through the archives, but didnt find one....

nevermind, found taskers....accidentally skipped one archive before.....

GO FIGURE!!!!!!

:p

Monthly mini in Gonzales, Texas this Saturday, April 24, 10am tee off. We'll have fun, fun, fun, till your daddy takes your Orc away!

who's your daddy Beastmaster?

My daddy will wup your daddy!

I don't doubt that, my dad is old and feeble! :D

going to gonzales this saturday for an early moring round this weekend and looking for opinions on where to get some good bbq on the way back to austin. i have been to one in lockhart right off the highway and i'm not sure of the name (Black's??) but it was a big red building right in the middle of downtown.

any suggestions from some true texas bbq critics are appreciated. mccaine? :cool:

MT, I really think we should go to City Market in Luling.

I also think that big, red building you were in was Kreutz's. :eek:

i think you molest collies. and my father never liked you.

-carl schmackler

I can second that vote for City Market, I stop there every time thru. Big [*****] sliced brisket sandwiches.

Good call, JAB. :)

Tasker, "You'll get nothing and like it."

what about my asthma? :D

Played the course for the first time this past weekend and was very impressed!!And the locals are very supportive!! :D

how were the skeeters?

no pest problems what so ever!! The only natural element to contend with was the heat , but hey we live in texas!! :D

and the heat was easy to beat if you poured water all over yourself. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

or even better stick your entire head in ice water!! **** that felt good!! back to back birdies after that!! haha!! :D

Mr. B's, Winchester VA...fortunately for all of you, they will be catering the dinner on Saturday Night at the WVO ...labor Day Weekend 2005....now that is well worth the Tourney entry fee!

HUH???????

BBQ!! :D

played in the points bonanza in Charlotte this weekend and had the best BBQ near a course... during the break between rounds on Sunday @ Sugaw creek. 1/2 down the road from the course near I85. Sugaw Creek awesome 18 holer and great BBQ... YUM YUM!!! (and the bbq was good too!)

okay , why not!! I played in the gonzales tx10 this past weekend and the local lions club cooked two pigs on the course for all the players etc.!! they trapped the feral hogs a couple days before the tourney!!!!lol :D

only in TEXAS!!!

There only TWO things that come from Texas....

NBA and CWS champions? :D

hot women and cold beer!! :D

There's nothing from WVA!! :D:D

There's nothing from WVA!! :D:D



sure there is , coal and a bunch of inbreeders!!lol :eek:

sure there is , coal and a bunch of inbreeders!!lol :eek:

[/QUOTE] Everyone knows that Texas has the best BBQ!!! :cool:

There's nothing from WVA!! :D



Except Senators who were former Kleagles in the KKK (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/8991).

The same senator who spent 14 hours speaking in an attempt to fillibuster the Civil Rights Bill; the same senator who said he'd rather die a thousand deaths than to serve in the military with blacks; the same senator who didn't vote to confirm Justice Thurgood Marshall because of his race; the same senator who voted against Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas.

Seriously...how has Sen. Byrd --- a KKK racist --- been reelected as West Virginia's senator since 1958? You all do know he was a Kleagle in the Klan, right?

Laugh all you want about "steers and queers", but there's nothing funny about a Klansman Senator.

Ok WVA has kkk and senators :mad: But Texas has BBQ!! :D:cool:

Best BBQ is in Memphis or KC....trust me on that one....

The best bbq i have ever eaten was at MICKEY MANTLES' IN NYC.. :DI believe i ordered the "TEXAS PLatter.." As a whole , the best bbq is in TEXAS!! :D

wilbur's
goldsboro, nc

The best BBQ is from my own BBQ pit.

The best BBQ in Texas...some might try to tell you that it's the Salt Lick...but when it comes to brisket...I'm partial to Rudy's extra moist brisket

Lot's and lot's of good pits out there. Riding around most anywhere from Texas to Carolina on a Thursday or Friday night and you pick up a whiff of hickory or mesquite smoke on the breeze, track it down. But if the meat on said pit didn't come from either side of a hogs *****, then it just ain't BBQ, no matter how you slice, pull or chop it.

After KC wide open, we went to some "famous" BBQ joint in KC. It was very ordinary. It wouldn't cut it in central Texas. Now I figure that there actually is good BBQ in KC, so noone (but Tony of course) get their feathers ruffled, but I'm not trusting a midwesterner on the best BBQ. No way. No how. :p

I really like the hot jalepeno sausage at Rudy's. Good stuff. "Half a hottie." :D

But if the meat on said pit didn't come from either side of a hogs *****, then it just ain't BBQ, no matter how you slice, pull or chop it.



This is very true, although a good brisket is mighty fine eats. See James, a midwesterner can learn... :)

We can mos def agree on a good brisket, as long as we don't call it barbecue. My best buddy growing up in south Georgia migrated farther south and took up in the Melbourne, Florida area where he came under the influence of some expat Houstonians who instructed him well in the ways of brisket and tri-tip. Very good eats, ah ha!

hell yeah , you have to really appreciate a great brisket!! Marinated and injected is the way to go!!!!Cooked very slow!! Yummy , Is dinner ready yet??? :DOPA's sausage rules!!

Hmmmmm . . . brisket! Anybody got a good recipe to smoke a brisket? My Dad has an electric smoker he is willing to let me have so I can practice on smoking a brisket. There is a guy in my home town (Stephenville, TX) that gets up before the crack of dawn to smoke brisket for about 18 hours. That was some tender meat - you don't need your teeth to eat that brisket! :cool: